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Didn't hear anything about Messi's speed even in his golden years Roll Eyes

Unfortunately, we will never see Messi in the Premier League, and now it would be very epic:

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As for Mbappe, he has every chance of finishing as Neymar, maybe even better due to his achievements with the national team, but he will never come close to the greatest players. Haaland is now on the right track, Mbappe is not.

I agree regarding Haaland being on the right track vs. Mbappe making questionable choices. Would be nice to see Haaland play some international tournaments with Norway as well.

You didn't hear anything about Messi's speed even in his golden years? I am not sure we are talking about the same players, but his speed when it came to acceleration with the ball on his feet was one of a kind. Just watch his best goals. One of them being against Bilbao in Copa del rey, I think there is also a speed analysis somewhere on YouTube. Or the one against Real Madrid when he started at the midfield line. I am not talking about these goals when a player just kicks it forward 30 meters and then runs after it in Usain Bolt style. Speed with the ball on rather short distances. I'd say he was the fastest ever when you put together acceleration, ball control and stopping from full speed to zero, then accelerate again. Let me know if you know a player who has done that better and maybe even more often than Messi.

You are confusing dribbling and Barcelona's game model in general. Messi was part of it, and the part that was replaceable - the Spanish team without Messi won two European Championships and the World Cup in a row, and Villa perfectly replaced Messi (do you even remember who he is?). Outside of Barcelona's scheme of play, Messi has turned into an average player.
Neymar, Ibrahimovic, Mbappe etc. shone at PSG, but can you say the same about Messi? Roll Eyes

PSG dominate France and it's easier for any player to shine here than in Lyon or Monaco, but so far only the ones I've listed (and a few others) have really done it.

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PSG are stronger than other clubs in Ligue 1 but their defense is not good enough. Their strength is skewed into attacking and it gives opponents more chance to beat PSG from Ligue 1 to Champions League.

In Ligue 1, this weakness hardly to be exploited but in Champions League, PSG has to play against stronger clubs and in many important matches, we saw how their defense was collapsed within few minutes. Defense is like an Achilles of PSG. If they can not fix it, chance to win Champions League is still low.

This in my opinion is also a weakness that is difficult to fix in the PSG squad because the MNM trio are still lazy in helping their defense when needed

we all still remember last season when PSG lost to madrid (UCL) and it happened because their defense was overwhelmed while the MNM trio was in the spotlight for not helping PSG's defense to the maximum

In the UCL later Galtier will have to urge the MNM trio to help the defense when facing strong teams like Madrid or Bayern

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on September 05, 2022, 10:24:16 AM

For the PSG match against Nantes it was something that I thought would not happen, I thought that in Nantes I was going to do something better, for me this team was one of the ones with the best chance of beating PSG, I had it as one of the best candidates For this, however, I did not like the last games, I do not know, but now a team that seems good to PSG I see it difficult, at least for this time, I do not know which one can face it, otherwise PSG will win the French league very easy and the truth It won't be a lot of emotion, especially All for bettors, the fact that a team wins or draws PSG is synonymous that it is very good and that it can face it, but I have not seen any team with that guarantee.

Although there are some things to emphasize, I really like what the technical director said to his stars:

PSG's Messi, Neymar, Mbappe warned to accept bench role by coach Christophe Galtier

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"We play a lot, every three days, then every four days, then there is the World Cup. Everyone has to understand that they won't be able to play all the games."

Sergio Ramos was also given a relative rest against Nantes, only coming on in the 62nd minute.

"Everyone has to be ready to play. The most important thing is the team. We have quality in both the starters and the substitutes," Presnel Kimpembe said.

"We have a good group. Everyone knows that. We take advantage of each other to be as good as possible."

Source: https://www.espn.co.uk/football/paris-saint-germain--frapsg/story/4738775/psgs-messi-neymar-mbappe-warned-to-accept-bench-role-by-coach-galtier

I think that these things make me give a message to Mbappé saying that the coach is the boss here and not the stars, I think it's a good thing and apart from that he is taking care of them, this coach has all my respect.

Of course the coach have every right to keep the stars on the bench if they're not fit for games. He's the boss and he selects the kind of players he wants to start games for him. Christophe Glatier is in charge of the Parisians and controlled them all, despite the contract the club offered to Kylian Mbappe when he wanted to leave for Real Madrid when they came for him. Mbappe happens to be one of the big earners in the club, although he have his decisions and obligation in the club but not bigger than the coach. The trio always do better when they played together on the pitch.

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For the PSG match against Nantes it was something that I thought would not happen, I thought that in Nantes I was going to do something better, for me this team was one of the ones with the best chance of beating PSG, I had it as one of the best candidates For this, however, I did not like the last games, I do not know, but now a team that seems good to PSG I see it difficult, at least for this time, I do not know which one can face it, otherwise PSG will win the French league very easy and the truth It won't be a lot of emotion, especially All for bettors, the fact that a team wins or draws PSG is synonymous that it is very good and that it can face it, but I have not seen any team with that guarantee.

Although there are some things to emphasize, I really like what the technical director said to his stars:

PSG's Messi, Neymar, Mbappe warned to accept bench role by coach Christophe Galtier

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"We play a lot, every three days, then every four days, then there is the World Cup. Everyone has to understand that they won't be able to play all the games."

Sergio Ramos was also given a relative rest against Nantes, only coming on in the 62nd minute.

"Everyone has to be ready to play. The most important thing is the team. We have quality in both the starters and the substitutes," Presnel Kimpembe said.

"We have a good group. Everyone knows that. We take advantage of each other to be as good as possible."

Source: https://www.espn.co.uk/football/paris-saint-germain--frapsg/story/4738775/psgs-messi-neymar-mbappe-warned-to-accept-bench-role-by-coach-galtier

I think that these things make me give a message to Mbappé saying that the coach is the boss here and not the stars, I think it's a good thing and apart from that he is taking care of them, this coach has all my respect.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 05, 2022, 01:40:48 AM

Even though PSG's strength is far above other clubs, it is very difficult not to lose in a season and even if it is PSG, they will still feel defeat even if it can only count fingers.
But it's quite natural for something like this to happen because there is no opponent who is truly equal to them and defeat is one thing that can but is difficult to happen.

PSG are stronger than other clubs in Ligue 1 but their defense is not good enough. Their strength is skewed into attacking and it gives opponents more chance to beat PSG from Ligue 1 to Champions League.

In Ligue 1, this weakness hardly to be exploited but in Champions League, PSG has to play against stronger clubs and in many important matches, we saw how their defense was collapsed within few minutes. Defense is like an Achilles of PSG. If they can not fix it, chance to win Champions League is still low.

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There was a Côte d'Azur derby game last night.

This was a really important game for both sides honestly. Because both of them were in a desperate need of a win as they got only one win in five weeks. In fact, I didn't like Monaco's effort much in this game even though they won by 1-0. Because they were so clumsy when it comes to finding the target. There was even no shot on target in the first half. They must be thankful for their goalkeeper Nubel also as his important saves didn't let the team go into a disadvantageous condition. Embolo's goal was due to a bad defending by Mattia Viti and it cost Nice three points here.

After a four-week break Monaco really needed this win. They are too far from their performance in the second half of last season. But it is very similar to their start to that season at the same time. Maybe Monaco can have a better form in time again and start recovering. They have made nice transfers but it looks like the main problem is different.

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Quote from: uswa56 on September 05, 2022, 03:52:36 AM

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Good for Lille that finally they can able to win the match and 76% ball possessions proven they were very dominated the game but indeed these statistics probably they got on the second half because after red card incident who received by Montpellier players they taking the opportunity to playing more attacking and the results is Lille can scoring 2 goals on second half but next week will be so hard for them because they have to faced unbeaten team Marseille for away match

Lille's game improved greatly in the second half and it was inseparable from the red card that Velere Germain got at the end of the first half. and Lille was able to use it well to finally win the game.

in the next match of course will be a very difficult match for Lille because they have to travel to Marseille headquarters.
Marseille who performed very well at the start of this season will certainly be seeded but Lille's quality can also balance it and the possibility of this match will be very fierce.

Lille not playing the European tournament could be a good chance to get a good final result, at least even if it's just one point it won't be a problem for Lille. Considering that Lille have had a better rest than Marseille who will play in the Champions League against Tottenham, what will certainly drain the Marseille players' stamina is that they will play away and of course it will be a very tiring day. With these factors, Lille will still have a chance to get points, if Lille can maximize this opportunity then of course Lille will be able to get 3 points.

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Quote from: FanEagle on September 04, 2022, 05:41:38 AM

Honestly I have seen Messi passing to Mbappe for a score a few times this year already and it looks like it is getting more common. I am not sure how many assists Messi has to Mbappe, but if someone calculated I am sure it is over 5 already, and that is a huge deal because you do not see that kind of numbers that easily. Which if you ask me is a proof that they are getting along very well.

We also know that Neymar and Messi go along very well too, one question remaining seems to be Neymar vs Mbappe, but if Messi could bring that together or at least they could be professional about it, then this team seems to be quite impossible to stop by any team in the world, they are that good when they play 100%.

almost all the goals scored by Mbappe are assists from messi, at least in 6 PSG matches Messi has contributed to providing 6 assists. messi is a very clever player in seeing gaps and providing feedback to his teammates. Thus, I think it's very clear that Galtier has put Mbappe as a Target Man.
In six matches, Messi's performance is the most stable when compared to Neymar, let alone Mbappe. this season, messi is playing so well, he has no serious problems with almost all his team-mates.
The problem that always raises issues around the PSG squad is none other than Neymar and Mbappe. these two stars always have disputes and feuds that are always raised by the sports media as a hot issue.

Well, again about the privileges that Mbappe has, is the trigger for all the existing disputes.
as you said, if Neymar and Mbappe can lower their egos and prioritize the interests of the club, it is not impossible that they can win the champions league trophy for the first time.

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Quote from: bering on September 05, 2022, 02:01:31 AM

Good for Lille that finally they can able to win the match and 76% ball possessions proven they were very dominated the game but indeed these statistics probably they got on the second half because after red card incident who received by Montpellier players they taking the opportunity to playing more attacking and the results is Lille can scoring 2 goals on second half but next week will be so hard for them because they have to faced unbeaten team Marseille for away match

Lille's game improved greatly in the second half and it was inseparable from the red card that Velere Germain got at the end of the first half. and Lille was able to use it well to finally win the game.

in the next match of course will be a very difficult match for Lille because they have to travel to Marseille headquarters.
Marseille who performed very well at the start of this season will certainly be seeded but Lille's quality can also balance it and the possibility of this match will be very fierce.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 05, 2022, 01:40:48 AM

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So far or especially this season PSG have never lost a match except for only playing one draw. But defeat is not impossible for PSG if the star players continue to put their egos forward without cooperating with every player in the team. Because in a team it's not about how many stars to see, but about how valid the cooperation of the players in carrying out the strategy or direction from their coach even though with the presence of star players the strength of the team can also increase.

Even though PSG's strength is far above other clubs, it is very difficult not to lose in a season and even if it is PSG, they will still feel defeat even if it can only count fingers.
But it's quite natural for something like this to happen because there is no opponent who is truly equal to them and defeat is one thing that can but is difficult to happen.

Last season they also felt 4 defeats. Even with the available strength, it is true that defeat is not impossible for Paris Saint Germain to accept.
Last season they recorded 26 wins, 8 draws and 4 defeats with a collection of 86 points, 15 points adrift of Marseille in second place in the standings.
But in terms of scoring goals they will not be unstoppable in my opinion.

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Good for Lille that finally they can able to win the match and 76% ball possessions proven they were very dominated the game but indeed these statistics probably they got on the second half because after red card incident who received by Montpellier players they taking the opportunity to playing more attacking and the results is Lille can scoring 2 goals on second half but next week will be so hard for them because they have to faced unbeaten team Marseille for away match

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Then Paris Sant German football club will make history if that should happen and would be the first and only club to have signed two world best players in the history of football and have both play together in same team, plus having Neymar Jr and Kylian Mbape both in the club, that will mean disaster for other clubs in French lique 1 and including other European football clubs, because I don't see why the Coach and the team with that kind of squad will not crush any team they come across. Hence they will be tittled celebrity players Club.

However I don't think that Paris Saint German needs the services of Christiano Ronaldo in the club in order to be successful this season and to help them lift the UEFA champions league trophy, upon having the trio ,Messi, Neymar and Mbape "MNM" already in the club.

PSG is a team of stars, but in such teams there is often a problem of player interaction, because the club has a lot of money and can afford to constantly buy new players, and for the team to interact well, the players need time to understand each other. PSG is just a team, the same people play there as in any other team, so they will lose like any other big team.

Paris SG has an excellent squad. They have one of the best offensive lines in the world right now. Neymar, Mbappe and Messi are playing perfectly. Even before the match starts, the psychological superiority is on the side of Paris SG. They won 3-0 this week and continue to lead the league. They scored 24 goals and conceded only 4 goals. It's obvious how well they get along. I think Paris SG is one of the big favorites for UCL this year.

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Quote from: bestcoins1 on September 04, 2022, 08:35:25 PM

So far or especially this season PSG have never lost a match except for only playing one draw. But defeat is not impossible for PSG if the star players continue to put their egos forward without cooperating with every player in the team. Because in a team it's not about how many stars to see, but about how valid the cooperation of the players in carrying out the strategy or direction from their coach even though with the presence of star players the strength of the team can also increase.

Even though PSG's strength is far above other clubs, it is very difficult not to lose in a season and even if it is PSG, they will still feel defeat even if it can only count fingers.
But it's quite natural for something like this to happen because there is no opponent who is truly equal to them and defeat is one thing that can but is difficult to happen.

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Quote from: CLS63 on September 04, 2022, 03:46:52 PM

One of the things I wonder is if we will see Messi and Ronaldo playing for PSG at the same time in the future. As you might have heard there were some rumours about Ronaldo to join PSG in the past. But PSG weren't in need of a transfer like this not to change the dream trio. However these days aren't going well between Mbappe and Neymar as you know. Let's say Neymar left the team at the end of the season then there might be a chance to see Ronaldo here maybe who knows. I've never dreamt Messi and Ronaldo in the same team before. Maybe we will figure out how it will be if PSG make such move for Ronaldo.

As we all know transfer window is already closed so most chances any things like this is not going to happen with PSG which is already having trouble with three stars are in their squad which creating too many controversies will not take any chance like this with they are already trying to offload some big player like Neymar, but it's not good happening to them even his form is amazing, and he can do much better than current statics but personal issues and attitude is having nothing positive for PSG right now with Champions League is also going to start in next few days.

If they are going to win this Champions League then surely too many issues can solve otherwise this club's future is now looking not impressive which we have right now under Qatar Foundation.

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Quote from: Inwestour on September 04, 2022, 05:16:16 AM

PSG is a team of stars, but in such teams there is often a problem of player interaction, because the club has a lot of money and can afford to constantly buy new players, and for the team to interact well, the players need time to understand each other. PSG is just a team, the same people play there as in any other team, so they will lose like any other big team.

So far or especially this season PSG have never lost a match except for only playing one draw. But defeat is not impossible for PSG if the star players continue to put their egos forward without cooperating with every player in the team. Because in a team it's not about how many stars to see, but about how valid the cooperation of the players in carrying out the strategy or direction from their coach even though with the presence of star players the strength of the team can also increase.

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Lyon are one of the impressive teams of this season. They finished last season at the 8th position as you know. But now a lot of things have changed about the team. Lacazette's coming back to the team being in the first place, the changes in the team have increased their strength very much. We are watching a team that are far stronger in offense compared to last season. Their defense is also quite solid as they are one of the least conceding teams now. The most important thing is to keep this effort throughout the season. They might be able to join the Champions League finally at the end.

Their biggest rendezvous is against PSG in a home match in two weeks. They drew with PSG 1-1 here the last time. If we see a strong effort by Lyon in this most difficult match of them then I can be more confident about a successful year for them.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on September 04, 2022, 02:10:26 PM

I am not entirely sure, he is great at PSG which means that he will have amazing Domestic career if he stays here, I am sure he will score as many as anyone can, he could reach to Messi levels for sure, maybe he will fail, but he "can", the potential is there with such a dominant team and a great striker.

Secondly he could be awesome in national team as well because he is great and plays with a great team, even though ronaldo scored a lot, and messi did too, they did not have a team as good as France if you ask me. Only question remaining would be UCL, and not like they are bad there neither, he could have good numbers. I am not saying he will be like Ronaldo, but he would be good enough that he would be top 5 IF he plays like this for another 10 years which he can if he works hard.

for Mbappe to reach the level of messi, ronaldo and neymar he would need to leave PSG and be in teams like barcelona or real madrid or even bayern and be lucky when being in one of these teams win more than twice the league champions and he would also need to be lucky for france to perform well in the world cup. PSG is a great team but only in france, when they are in the champions league playing against teams outside france I could see that they are not as superior as in france, maybe that scenario will change with this new coach. but i have my doubts

Montpellier 1 - 3 Lille

great victory for Lille, even though they were losing they managed to reverse the result, but the red card that the Montpellier player received was one of the biggest factors that helped Lille in that victory

AC Ajaccio 0 - 1 Lorient

this result was expected

Clermont Foot 2 - 0 Toulouse

was also an expected result

Brest 1 - 1 Strasbourg

for this game I already imagined that I wouldn't have many goals

Reims 1 - 1 Lens

another draw

Troyes 1 - 1 Rennes

and another draw

Nice 0 - 1 Monaco

this is a result that I also expected

had many games that ended in a draw

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it interesting to see how marseille can continue to match the points earned by PSG

- while NICE looked very disappointing, they lost 1-0 to monaco and that kept them in 16th position

Quote from: CLS63 on September 04, 2022, 03:46:52 PM

One of the things I wonder is if we will see Messi and Ronaldo playing for PSG at the same time in the future. As you might have heard there were some rumours about Ronaldo to join PSG in the past. But PSG weren't in need of a transfer like this not to change the dream trio. However these days aren't going well between Mbappe and Neymar as you know. Let's say Neymar left the team at the end of the season then there might be a chance to see Ronaldo here maybe who knows. I've never dreamt Messi and Ronaldo in the same team before. Maybe we will figure out how it will be if PSG make such move for Ronaldo.

I think CR7 to PSG will only be a rumor forever and will not come true, CR7 doesn't seem to fit PSG's pattern of play, he is more convinced that he will retire at MU

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One of the things I wonder is if we will see Messi and Ronaldo playing for PSG at the same time in the future. As you might have heard there were some rumours about Ronaldo to join PSG in the past. But PSG weren't in need of a transfer like this not to change the dream trio. However these days aren't going well between Mbappe and Neymar as you know. Let's say Neymar left the team at the end of the season then there might be a chance to see Ronaldo here maybe who knows. I've never dreamt Messi and Ronaldo in the same team before. Maybe we will figure out how it will be if PSG make such move for Ronaldo.

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I am not entirely sure, he is great at PSG which means that he will have amazing Domestic career if he stays here, I am sure he will score as many as anyone can, he could reach to Messi levels for sure, maybe he will fail, but he "can", the potential is there with such a dominant team and a great striker.

Secondly he could be awesome in national team as well because he is great and plays with a great team, even though ronaldo scored a lot, and messi did too, they did not have a team as good as France if you ask me. Only question remaining would be UCL, and not like they are bad there neither, he could have good numbers. I am not saying he will be like Ronaldo, but he would be good enough that he would be top 5 IF he plays like this for another 10 years which he can if he works hard.

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