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Quote from: el kaka22 on September 01, 2022, 09:33:20 PM

PSG once again had a great game, they missed so many clear chances and the game once again could have been 5-6 goals easily if they weren't unlucky a few times. In the end, they managed to get a win and it’s off to the races for them.

People are talking about issues with Mbappe but if you ask me, they are a bit overstating the fact, I mean considering Messi assisted that fastest goal, and then did it again this game too, it is clear that they are looking at each other constantly and they have cheered together very well too, which is why I believe there is no attitude towards each other, hence I believe that they have managed to build a team with good chemistry and issues are just media things.

The problems between Neymar and Mbappe have been confirmed by all parties, what does the media have to do with this, which only told/followed this? I can’t say anything about Messi, but based on his game, he can hardly demand any special treatment for himself, since it is obvious that now he is far from the top and, due to his age, will not return to it.

You are right to a certain degree, but I would argue that he still belongs to the players who play the best assists ever. Mbappe's turbo goal after 8 seconds is a classic example: the pass is exactly where it has to come down and Mbappe just needs to finish. He still creates great chances and he can still score in a much smarter way then the average player. He hardly uses force.

I wouldn't say that he is the same he used to be, but he can still play in the best leagues and against the best teams. I would not be surprised if he scores some important goals not only in Ligue 1, but especially in the champions league or even the world cup.

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Messi has completely changed his style of play. Looking at his gameplay now, he seems to be primarily a midfielder. And he is more comfortable assisting than scoring. He may not be able to score too many goals playing in such a style, but PSG will benefit greatly from it. And PSG's overall gameplay will improve further. Mbappe and Neymar will have more chances to score. However, Messi, Neymar and Mbappe are world-class players in all three. If the bonding between them is good and their relationship is friendly, then they will be able to perform better together.

Now messi is starting to get a different role at PSG, when previously at Barcelona he was a target man on the front lines but now he is starting to adjust his style of play as expected by his coach for helping attack, the decision to change the style of play I don't think is an absolute decision from messi because after all the main striker position has been owned by mbappe and of course the coach might want messi to play a little backwards, even so messi is still messi, in whatever position he plays will certainly create a lot of threats to the opponent's defense in a match.

Messi is a player who can adapt to any position. At Barcelona, Messi has done well as the main striker. And scored a lot of goals. He was a regular scorer at Barcelona. But looking at Messi's performance at PSG now, he seems to be a midfielder. And assisting is his main responsibility. He is able to fulfill this responsibility very well. PSG will be stronger if Mbappe's performance improves.

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Quote from: hd49728 on September 01, 2022, 10:52:31 PM

Messi has changed his style and in this seaskn, he has adapted better in PSG squad but personally he changed the way he shots. Messi now does not shot with too much power but he tries to shot at corners and with more difficulty for goalkeepers to save his finishes.

It is not easy for a player to adapt to a team that have a completely different system after playing for a certain team for so many years. It doesn't matter even if this player is a legend like Messi. If you remember the previous season he had big problems at the beginning. People started to criticize him very early but it wasn't fair of course. After he took his time we saw a very visible improvement in his performance but it was still not at the level PSG wanted to see.

But now he seems to have adapted completely. The main reason must be of course having amazing teammates like Mbappe and Neymar right beside him. Messi has always needed companions beside him to play more comfortable as you know. The best example is that he had great teammates like Xavi and Iniesta at Barcelona many years ago and Messi reached this level faster thanks to them. If one of Mbappe and Neymar leaves PSG I think Messi might think of leaving seriously too. Especially Neymar's departure might affect him deeply as he is the player who Messi gets along with the most in the team.

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Quote from: hd49728 on September 01, 2022, 10:52:31 PM

Messi has completely changed his style of play. Looking at his gameplay now, he seems to be primarily a midfielder. And he is more comfortable assisting than scoring. He may not be able to score too many goals playing in such a style, but PSG will benefit greatly from it. And PSG's overall gameplay will improve further. Mbappe and Neymar will have more chances to score. However, Messi, Neymar and Mbappe are world-class players in all three. If the bonding between them is good and their relationship is friendly, then they will be able to perform better together.

Now messi is starting to get a different role at PSG, when previously at Barcelona he was a target man on the front lines but now he is starting to adjust his style of play as expected by his coach for helping attack, the decision to change the style of play I don't think is an absolute decision from messi because after all the main striker position has been owned by mbappe and of course the coach might want messi to play a little backwards, even so messi is still messi, in whatever position he plays will certainly create a lot of threats to the opponent's defense in a match.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on September 01, 2022, 09:33:20 PM

PSG once again had a great game, they missed so many clear chances and the game once again could have been 5-6 goals easily if they weren't unlucky a few times. In the end, they managed to get a win and it’s off to the races for them.

People are talking about issues with Mbappe but if you ask me, they are a bit overstating the fact, I mean considering Messi assisted that fastest goal, and then did it again this game too, it is clear that they are looking at each other constantly and they have cheered together very well too, which is why I believe there is no attitude towards each other, hence I believe that they have managed to build a team with good chemistry and issues are just media things.

The problems between Neymar and Mbappe have been confirmed by all parties, what does the media have to do with this, which only told/followed this? I can’t say anything about Messi, but based on his game, he can hardly demand any special treatment for himself, since it is obvious that now he is far from the top and, due to his age, will not return to it.

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Quote from: visionE2 on September 01, 2022, 09:47:51 AM

Monaco is incomprehensible, they were VERY strong against PSG and they lost against Troyes. Cheesy

but Maybe a lot of energy was wasted against psg and not recovered enough after this trip other than playing with 10 players more than half the time. But this is football and a lot of surprises. Be patient mate, I also lost the bet. Grin

I think you should try to look at two different games before making a judgment.
At the time of monaco against psg, they used a defensive strategy with a 5-3-2 formation pattern that's why psg had difficulty breaking down the monaco defense in that match, the psg squad had many opportunities but failed to maximize them into a goal.
Well, at the time of Monaco versus Troyes, Monaco used a 3-4-3 formation pattern, with a 3-4-3 formation Monaco aiming for a win against Troyes.
Monaco coach took the initiative to get the perfect three points.
However, it is unfortunate that the red card incident cost Monaco, and it was very profitable for the Troyes to turn things into their advantage.

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Quote from: hd49728 on September 01, 2022, 10:52:31 PM

Messi has changed his style and in this seaskn, he has adapted better in PSG squad but personally he changed the way he shots. Messi now does not shot with too much power but he tries to shot at corners and with more difficulty for goalkeepers to save his finishes.

Messi has completely changed his style of play. Looking at his gameplay now, he seems to be primarily a midfielder. And he is more comfortable assisting than scoring. He may not be able to score too many goals playing in such a style, but PSG will benefit greatly from it. And PSG's overall gameplay will improve further. Mbappe and Neymar will have more chances to score. However, Messi, Neymar and Mbappe are world-class players in all three. If the bonding between them is good and their relationship is friendly, then they will be able to perform better together.

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Quote from: hd49728 on September 01, 2022, 10:52:31 PM

Quote from: el kaka22 on September 01, 2022, 09:33:20 PM

PSG once again had a great game, they missed so many clear chances and the game once again could have been 5-6 goals easily if they weren't unlucky a few times. In the end, they managed to get a win and it’s off to the races for them.

PSG usually have great games because they simply can beat most of clubs in Ligue 1 in most matches. They are over stronger than other clubs there and beating them is just big challenge for clubs in Ligue 1. Challenge for PSG is to achieve good results in Ligue 1 (that they easily can achieve) but still avoid unnecessary injuries and avoid conflicts in their players.

This is a certainty that happens because it would be very funny if they were with players who could be said to be above average but couldn't do that.
Their conditions are much better than the clubs in Ligue 1, their Players, Strengths and Financials are so far superior that winning in Ligue 1 will only be considered as something that is not something to be proud of for them.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on September 01, 2022, 09:33:20 PM

PSG once again had a great game, they missed so many clear chances and the game once again could have been 5-6 goals easily if they weren't unlucky a few times. In the end, they managed to get a win and it’s off to the races for them.

PSG usually have great games because they simply can beat most of clubs in Ligue 1 in most matches. They are over stronger than other clubs there and beating them is just big challenge for clubs in Ligue 1. Challenge for PSG is to achieve good results in Ligue 1 (that they easily can achieve) but still avoid unnecessary injuries and avoid conflicts in their players.

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People are talking about issues with Mbappe but if you ask me, they are a bit overstating the fact, I mean considering Messi assisted that fastest goal, and then did it again this game too, it is clear that they are looking at each other constantly and they have cheered together very well too, which is why I believe there is no attitude towards each other, hence I believe that they have managed to build a team with good chemistry and issues are just media things.

Mbappe gradually accept that he must be friendly with other team mates for club achievement as well as his personal ambition. As a single player, he can not bring the club to titles especially in Champions League and at the end, titles for the club will also helps him to achieve his personal things.

Messi has changed his style and in this seaskn, he has adapted better in PSG squad but personally he changed the way he shots. Messi now does not shot with too much power but he tries to shot at corners and with more difficulty for goalkeepers to save his finishes.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on September 01, 2022, 09:33:20 PM

PSG once again had a great game, they missed so many clear chances and the game once again could have been 5-6 goals easily if they weren't unlucky a few times. In the end, they managed to get a win and it’s off to the races for them.
People are talking about issues with Mbappe but if you ask me, they are a bit overstating the fact, I mean considering Messi assisted that fastest goal, and then did it again this game too, it is clear that they are looking at each other constantly and they have cheered together very well too, which is why I believe there is no attitude towards each other, hence I believe that they have managed to build a team with good chemistry and issues are just media things.

Messi's behaviour is friendly with all team players. But his chemistry with Neymar is very good. The main problem for the PSG team is Mbappe. He wants to be the main player of the team. Neymar has been in great form this season, maybe that's why Mbappe is jealous. This is why the rivalry between Mbappe and Neymar is quite visible. Mbappe is a professional player. It is up to him to understand what is more beneficial for the team. If Neymar, Mbappe and Messi have good chemistry, the PSG team will be irresistible to any team. Mbappe should avoid childish behaviour.

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PSG once again had a great game, they missed so many clear chances and the game once again could have been 5-6 goals easily if they weren't unlucky a few times. In the end, they managed to get a win and it’s off to the races for them.

People are talking about issues with Mbappe but if you ask me, they are a bit overstating the fact, I mean considering Messi assisted that fastest goal, and then did it again this game too, it is clear that they are looking at each other constantly and they have cheered together very well too, which is why I believe there is no attitude towards each other, hence I believe that they have managed to build a team with good chemistry and issues are just media things.

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Quote from: CLS63 on September 01, 2022, 04:25:23 PM

Monaco are really a complete mess. They started the season with a 2-1 Strasbourg win. As you can remember Strasbourg were one of the striking teams of the previous season as they fought for even top 4. Therefore I was feeling positive about Monaco's new season after this start. But all of the matches after that are a complete disaster. They couldn't win a single match in four weeks. I can understand the point loss against PSG of course but they could have won nearly all of the other matches. They just conceded 8 goals in total from Troyes and Lens in home matches. I wonder if they will recover later on like the previous season.

Many had good expectations from them before start of this season and as they started there was chance they could be tough competitor for PSG and Marseille, but suddenly they are doing down like crap which is surely big mess up they lost two matches and both with the score of 1 - 4 and 2 - 4 which mean their defence is terrible, and they need to do good enough work for settle this and their chance of going at top four is also depended on this all can they change their tactics and have something special for rest of the season, or they are going to trail like many other clubs in French League in middle or at bottom with no progressive mind set and nothing serious in this business.

Right now, three teams are at top with same points and PSG surely leading the table with great goal deficit which can widen because no one has ability to cover this like them in rest of the season.

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Lens are the most interesting team after we have left five weeks behind. They have collected the same points with PSG and Marseille so far without losing a single game. Among these victories, there are ones against strong teams like Rennes and Monaco as well. Maybe those two didn't start very well but they are normally not easy opponents in the end. However I wonder how much Lens can be consistent in this season. Because they seemed determined last season as well but started to perform worse in time.

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Quote from: visionE2 on September 01, 2022, 09:47:51 AM

Monaco is incomprehensible, they were VERY strong against PSG and they lost against Troyes. Cheesy

but Maybe a lot of energy was wasted against psg and not recovered enough after this trip other than playing with 10 players more than half the time. But this is football and a lot of surprises. Be patient mate, I also lost the bet. Grin

I think it's a natural thing to happen even though it looks like a surprise because before Monaco looked so strong against PSG and then looked weak against a Troyes team who are famous for not being as strong as PSG. On the one hand I was also surprised to see this, but because this is football. So I consider it a natural thing to happen in a match even though the end result is beyond everyone's expectations.

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Quote from: CLS63 on September 01, 2022, 04:25:23 PM

Monaco are really a complete mess. They started the season with a 2-1 Strasbourg win. As you can remember Strasbourg were one of the striking teams of the previous season as they fought for even top 4. Therefore I was feeling positive about Monaco's new season after this start. But all of the matches after that are a complete disaster. They couldn't win a single match in four weeks. I can understand the point loss against PSG of course but they could have won nearly all of the other matches. They just conceded 8 goals in total from Troyes and Lens in home matches. I wonder if they will recover later on like the previous season.

Monaco's performance this season has been really disappointing, only picking up 5 points from 5 matches is a very bad result for Monaco.
I was disappointed with Monaco's performance when they played at home, in 3 matches at home, Monaco didn't get a single win.
Monaco's performance when playing away was quite satisfactory with a win against Strasbourg and a draw with PSG. I don't know what's going on
with Monaco this season, I hope Monaco can recover soon and get back to positive results. Then another thing that Monaco must pay attention to is
how they control their emotions when playing, getting 3 red cards in 5 games is a very bad thing. Moreover, every time Monaco get a red card they fail
to win. I want to see Monaco perform better in the next game against Nice. Moreover, Nice's performance is as bad as Monaco's this season,
so this is Monaco's chance to win the game.

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Monaco are really a complete mess. They started the season with a 2-1 Strasbourg win. As you can remember Strasbourg were one of the striking teams of the previous season as they fought for even top 4. Therefore I was feeling positive about Monaco's new season after this start. But all of the matches after that are a complete disaster. They couldn't win a single match in four weeks. I can understand the point loss against PSG of course but they could have won nearly all of the other matches. They just conceded 8 goals in total from Troyes and Lens in home matches. I wonder if they will recover later on like the previous season.

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Quote from: Sirait on September 01, 2022, 01:50:21 PM

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Man, I'm through with Monaco. Been losing on them, failed to do the upset against PSG and then find a way to lose at home to... Troyes? Thought I was being maybe a smart sniffer on them but not even Taki can save them.
I'm anger betting on Toulose now at almost 10/1 haha.

Monaco is incomprehensible, they were VERY strong against PSG and they lost against Troyes. Cheesy

but Maybe a lot of energy was wasted against psg and not recovered enough after this trip other than playing with 10 players more than half the time. But this is football and a lot of surprises. Be patient mate, I also lost the bet. Grin

To be honest, many were disappointed with Monaco's performance against Troyes yesterday, all of Troyes's 3 goals occurred in the first half, and in the second half Monaco changed the strategy to defend and that made the match not so interesting anymore. so far monaco is not a stable team, so just be careful when placing bets on that team.

Monaco trailed 2-1 at the end of the first half. And Monaco went down 3-1 after conceding a goal early in the second half. Due to Gullermo Maripan receiving a red card, it is no longer possible for Monaco to return to the truck with 10 players in this match. Troyes players played very well. Their dominance was clearly visible right from the start of the match. And they deserve this win.

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Monaco really humiliated at home, basically Troyes performance in the first three matches it was a poor result. Indeed, Monaco have so far not been in their best form but with them being able to hold PSG to a draw in the previous match it seemed like a sign that Monaco will get full points in this home match against Troyes. But what happened instead was Guillermo Maripan getting a red card and it looks like it was the start where Monaco fell apart, although Monaco had made a second goal in the second half but it really didn't help him to get points.

I didn't think Monaco would lose so badly against Troyes today after such a great performance against PSG. However, Monaco earned 1 point by playing completely defensively against PSG. But against Troyes, they made several attacks. As a result, Monaco conceded three goals from the counterattack today. In this match, Troyes players played very well compared to Monaco. They deserve this win. Even though Monaco got 1 point against PSG, they are quite weak as a team.

Monaco is currently at 16th in league table and their performance is unpredictable as we can check they have just one win from their first game of this season after this they are struggling badly and now have just two points from their last four games which mean they need to improve performance in coming weeks for higher rank in league table.

Even here nothing is new many times things like this happen as good teams struggle in early part of the season like we have in many other European leagues as well with Strasbourg is also struggling badly with have only 3 points from five games and no win in this season mean they are also in trouble if they are not going to improve quality then surely they are going to be in trouble which can bring them in hot waters for rest of the season.

With a goal from a corner, Monaco got off to a great start in that match. However, after that, they began to lose their way. Monaco did a very poor job of defending against this attack. As a matter of fact, it was lazy defending on the part of the defense. There is no doubt that they could have at least had a draw in that match if they had shown a little more urgency and commitment in the defensive line.

In the aftermath of Monaco's break of the deadlock, their opponent started playing very well. As I was watching the match, I didn't even feel like Monaco was even participating in it. In addition to that, Monaco's sending-off was a big blow to the team. The match ended in a 2-4 loss for Monaco in the end.

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Quote from: Sirait on September 01, 2022, 01:50:21 PM

To be honest, many were disappointed with Monaco's performance against Troyes yesterday, all of Troyes's 3 goals occurred in the first half, and in the second half Monaco changed the strategy to defend and that made the match not so interesting anymore. so far monaco is not a stable team, so just be careful when placing bets on that team.

Looks like you are wrong because it was only 2 goals in the first half and even then it was scored in the last minute of extra time.
Monaco's main problem is the tough matches. Red cards happen again and again for them and this is clearly a disadvantage. Did they really not learn from the mistakes in the previous game? Because indeed in the last 4 matches they have run 3 red cards have been bagged and it is clear that it is detrimental to the team.

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Quote from: visionE2 on September 01, 2022, 09:47:51 AM

Quote from: buwaytress on August 31, 2022, 01:58:35 PM

Man, I'm through with Monaco. Been losing on them, failed to do the upset against PSG and then find a way to lose at home to... Troyes? Thought I was being maybe a smart sniffer on them but not even Taki can save them.

I'm anger betting on Toulose now at almost 10/1 haha.

Monaco is incomprehensible, they were VERY strong against PSG and they lost against Troyes. Cheesy

but Maybe a lot of energy was wasted against psg and not recovered enough after this trip other than playing with 10 players more than half the time. But this is football and a lot of surprises. Be patient mate, I also lost the bet. Grin

To be honest, many were disappointed with Monaco's performance against Troyes yesterday, all of Troyes's 3 goals occurred in the first half, and in the second half Monaco changed the strategy to defend and that made the match not so interesting anymore. so far monaco is not a stable team, so just be careful when placing bets on that team.

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