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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on August 31, 2022, 02:02:09 PM

My question is who is going to punish him?

He already has the authority to do what he wants to. And probably the PSG authority is fearful that if they say anything to Kylian Mbappé, the next morning he will want to leave the club.

So, they are probably trying to stay safe. At least till the transfer window closes.

Kylian Mbappé was really great talent and he is still a great player but PSG has absolutely spoiled him. He needs to be humbled. But that is something which I think is not going to happen. And I really don’t know if having Lionel Messi and Neymar on the team is creating some type of problems.

Kylian Mbappe pride is getting out of hand, he has the Sense that he's bigger than everyone because he's the highest paid player in PSG. That Contract given to him was to persuade him to stay in the club when the Los Blancos side came asking for his signature with the club. PSG president have a clear view of what's happening presently in the club but haven't said anything yet. Mbappe can do whatever he wants in the club. The trio, Neymar, Messi and Mbappe was a good one and I always enjoyed them play together.

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Quote from: savetheFORUM on August 31, 2022, 12:53:52 PM

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It's difficult to suppress someone ego if he already has power, as well as Mbappe who I think will continue to create controversy in the squad after he gets complete freedom from PSG, indeed we admit that Mbappe is one of the star players who is quite talented, but his treatment of Neymar and Messi obviously can disrupt the harmony of the team in the dressing room or training, now Mbappe can be said to be one of the important players from PSG only because of PSG fear of losing him last season, but if we compare in terms of quality and appreciation it is clear that Mbappe does not have no nothing of compared to Messi.

Too many controversies around Mbappé and day by day he is going more arrogant which is never been good for him and his career because need to be calm and mature for his long and quality career if he is not going to change this attitude then surely it's going to be more troubled.

Some complaints about his attitude in Euro competitions and now in PSG so French coach and sports authorities need to punish which could be good for him and many other players which will try to follow this here at PSG they are giving him special treatment which is surely not good if they leave him and give chance to Messi and Neymar then surely this can bring better results for this club as well.

My question is who is going to punish him?

He already has the authority to do what he wants to. And probably the PSG authority is fearful that if they say anything to Kylian Mbappé, the next morning he will want to leave the club.

So, they are probably trying to stay safe. At least till the transfer window closes.

Kylian Mbappé was really great talent and he is still a great player but PSG has absolutely spoiled him. He needs to be humbled. But that is something which I think is not going to happen. And I really don’t know if having Lionel Messi and Neymar on the team is creating some type of problems.

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Man, I'm through with Monaco. Been losing on them, failed to do the upset against PSG and then find a way to lose at home to... Troyes? Thought I was being maybe a smart sniffer on them but not even Taki can save them.

I'm anger betting on Toulose now at almost 10/1 haha.

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Quote from: DU18 on August 31, 2022, 03:56:20 AM

It's difficult to suppress someone ego if he already has power, as well as Mbappe who I think will continue to create controversy in the squad after he gets complete freedom from PSG, indeed we admit that Mbappe is one of the star players who is quite talented, but his treatment of Neymar and Messi obviously can disrupt the harmony of the team in the dressing room or training, now Mbappe can be said to be one of the important players from PSG only because of PSG fear of losing him last season, but if we compare in terms of quality and appreciation it is clear that Mbappe does not have no nothing of compared to Messi.

Too many controversies around Mbappé and day by day he is going more arrogant which is never been good for him and his career because need to be calm and mature for his long and quality career if he is not going to change this attitude then surely it's going to be more troubled.

Some complaints about his attitude in Euro competitions and now in PSG so French coach and sports authorities need to punish which could be good for him and many other players which will try to follow this here at PSG they are giving him special treatment which is surely not good if they leave him and give chance to Messi and Neymar then surely this can bring better results for this club as well.

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If you look at the bottom of the standings, of course this will be a long season for the residents. How not, they still have to fight to get out of the red zone. Even though the league is just getting started, they won't be that young to get out of that zone. The financial factor that causes them to be like this, because in Ligue 1 the gap is really felt.

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Quote from: MAAManda on August 31, 2022, 02:10:20 AM

Today we will see matches in Ligue 1, there are some interesting matches to be played, including: Lyon Vs Auxerre, AS Monaco Vs Troyes, Lille Vs Nice, Marseille Vs Clermont and Toulouse Vs PSG.

As for betting, I will only place bets for Monaco, Lyon, Marseille and PSG wins. Somehow I think they will win easily in this match. Maybe it was because their opponent which was a weak club.

How about you guys? which team do you think will win and which club will you bet on?

I think that PSG will not allow a second misfire in a row, so the bet on them is reliable, although the odds are still meager. As for the other games, I've added Marseille, Lyon and Monaco wins to a couple of my crazy multibets (big odds) as the odds seem "reliable" - 1.25 to 1.36. However, I understand that either there or here an unexpected result will happen Cheesy

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Although they are not very good at building chemistry, but for Ligue 1 they will still have the trophy. But for the main tournament which is actually the club owner's target to win the Champions League, then of course with their attitude like that, PSG will never get it. After all, the freedom that Mbappe has is given by the PSG management themselves, which means they must be prepared to accept the risk if at this time their chemistry is destroyed because of the gap in the rules they have.

That's right, Ligue 1 will still be in the possession of the PSG squad for this season, seeing there is no strong competitor to break the dominance of Galtier's troops in the domestic league. however, I will not rush to judge the PSG squad in the actual tournament in the champions league.
As for what happened in that match, I think PSG were under pressure especially when Monaco scored in the first half. 0-1 down made the PSG players look frustrated, especially every attack they could always be blocked by the Monaco goalkeeper, as a result mbappe played selfishly.
on the occasion of the champions league tournament, the fact that psg has an above average depth of players from various lines despite the failures they always get, however they are the strongest candidate in the race for the champions league title trophy.

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Quote from: Docnaster on August 31, 2022, 03:43:13 AM

Mbappe has suddenly become so powerful and more arrogant. I already knew he was arrogant but it is becoming more obvious these days. If Neymar and Messi should leave PSG for only Mbappe, he alone cannot deliver. I don't know if the youngy has good advisers. With the so much powers given him, it will make more sense if he remains calm and respectful. Both Neymar and Messi are super stars, he should calm down.

It's difficult to suppress someone ego if he already has power, as well as Mbappe who I think will continue to create controversy in the squad after he gets complete freedom from PSG, indeed we admit that Mbappe is one of the star players who is quite talented, but his treatment of Neymar and Messi obviously can disrupt the harmony of the team in the dressing room or training, now Mbappe can be said to be one of the important players from PSG only because of PSG fear of losing him last season, but if we compare in terms of quality and appreciation it is clear that Mbappe does not have no nothing of compared to Messi.

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Quote from: Yawa2020 on August 30, 2022, 07:29:29 AM

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I'm not surprised when I see Mbappe show his true self again, maybe a bit of an exaggeration when I say Mbappe has the egotistical attitude that is his true attitude, but that's what I see. Because not only did he show this once, but many times. Not infrequently his attitude is also detrimental to his own club. The freedom that Mbappe currently has may be one of the factors that makes him even more selfish.

PSG is not a team club anymore. Mbappe, Ramos and Hakimi has played so selfishly and cost 2 points for PSG. Mbappe didn't coordinate with Messi and Neymar with some clear chances these guys won't win any trophy with this egostic guy called Kylian Mbappé. Let the guy go anywhere he wants to, otherwise PSG should wash their hands from Champions League or any trophy.
The teams' unity is vanished while he plays, and that's the clear truth.

Mbappe has suddenly become so powerful and more arrogant. I already knew he was arrogant but it is becoming more obvious these days. If Neymar and Messi should leave PSG for only Mbappe, he alone cannot deliver. I don't know if the youngy has good advisers. With the so much powers given him, it will make more sense if he remains calm and respectful. Both Neymar and Messi are super stars, he should calm down.

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Quote from: poldanmig on August 30, 2022, 01:50:27 PM

For ligue 1 no one doubts that PSG is the strongest candidate to win the title again, so far the other existing teams are only struggling to get through to the champions league, while to win the trophy is a difficult thing for them to do because beside from PSG there is no team that really strong in Ligue 1, in my opinion only the champions league competition is able to provide a balanced opponent for PSG at the moment, when it comes to mbappe ego, of course I think he has gone too far in being given freedom and obviously it will only destroy PSG from within internally slowly.

There is no doubt that PSG will dominate Ligue 1 for many years to come. The quality of the squad that PSG has is very difficult to match other teams, the draw that just got from Monaco did not make PSG fall, they still remained upright despite dropping points in two consecutive matches.
PSG are still having trouble competing in the Champions League, this fact is evident after PSG always fail to bring this most prestigious trophy. The effect of PSG failure in the Champions League is because in the domestic league there is no team that can interfere with PSG's dominance. mbappe selfishness can make the PSG dressing room not harmonious, conditions like this can affect the concentration of other players in the Champions League.

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Today we will see matches in Ligue 1, there are some interesting matches to be played, including: Lyon Vs Auxerre, AS Monaco Vs Troyes, Lille Vs Nice, Marseille Vs Clermont and Toulouse Vs PSG.

As for betting, I will only place bets for Monaco, Lyon, Marseille and PSG wins. Somehow I think they will win easily in this match. Maybe it was because their opponent which was a weak club.

How about you guys? which team do you think will win and which club will you bet on?

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Marseille vs Clermont that apparently Igor Tudor can managed the performance of Marseille this season because so far they had equal points to PSG and they also can pursuing PSG on second position and against Clermont i think Marseille probably will utilized Sanchez in the front line again because last week while against Nice Sanchez can scoring 2 goals and for Clermont actually they have good records from Marseille because last season Clermont can able to win 2-0 but this season seems Clermont had unstable performance so let see whether Marseille or Clermont will be the winner of this match

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on August 30, 2022, 08:25:45 PM

But you mustn't forget that now Mbappe is the one who can do anything at PSG. He's not going anywhere with his current privileges and his very long contract.
We also have to be able to see that he is indeed selfish but with his current condition and his current position then this is indeed not very good but in my opinion this is the result of his freedom here.
As for the trophy issue for Ligue 1 it will still be theirs but difficult for other leagues.

This is precisely the problem for Paris Saint Germain, as you say the special things he gets can lead him to abusive behavior. Now we'll see how he behaves in this team. It is a pity, indeed, when players who have good quality are not accompanied by behavior that is in accordance with expectations. It could even destroy his career.

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Quote from: Yawa2020 on August 30, 2022, 07:29:29 AM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on August 30, 2022, 06:50:00 AM

I'm not surprised when I see Mbappe show his true self again, maybe a bit of an exaggeration when I say Mbappe has the egotistical attitude that is his true attitude, but that's what I see. Because not only did he show this once, but many times. Not infrequently his attitude is also detrimental to his own club. The freedom that Mbappe currently has may be one of the factors that makes him even more selfish.

PSG is not a team club anymore. Mbappe, Ramos and Hakimi has played so selfishly and cost 2 points for PSG. Mbappe didn't coordinate with Messi and Neymar with some clear chances these guys won't win any trophy with this egostic guy called Kylian Mbappé. Let the guy go anywhere he wants to, otherwise PSG should wash their hands from Champions League or any trophy.
The teams' unity is vanished while he plays, and that's the clear truth.

But you mustn't forget that now Mbappe is the one who can do anything at PSG. He's not going anywhere with his current privileges and his very long contract.
We also have to be able to see that he is indeed selfish but with his current condition and his current position then this is indeed not very good but in my opinion this is the result of his freedom here.
As for the trophy issue for Ligue 1 it will still be theirs but difficult for other leagues.

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Quote from: KTChampions on August 30, 2022, 01:16:07 PM

Quote from: karabiber on August 29, 2022, 03:45:20 PM

Mbappe played selfishly from the beginning of the match and spent the attacks. No matter how talented he is his perspective on the game is terrible and his passing choices are wrong. PSG's defensive line was bad. I think Messi is isolated from the game. It was as if they had agreed not to pass the ball to Messi. Galtier was disappointing in this match. PSG's appearance is far from being a team. Messi and Neymar will save PSG.

Mbappe did play selfishly, but theoretically this can be justified by the fact that he played in the position of a central striker and should have shot on goal. You overestimate Messi, there is no conspiracy against him - even in Barcelona, his effectiveness always depended on the team. Obviously, playing on the right flank, he has fewer opportunities to participate in the attack, since he does not really like to run Wink

Actually, with his current position and the position he has now at PSG, this is indeed something that can indeed add to his selfishness, especially with his current age which is still quite young, his emotions sometimes overflow and his selfishness is also very big.
But in other respects it is clear this needs to change and he has to place where he has to be selfish and not so that it is not all done with his ego.

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Quote from: sana54210 on August 30, 2022, 04:35:21 PM

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For ligue 1 no one doubts that PSG is the strongest candidate to win the title again, so far the other existing teams are only struggling to get through to the champions league, while to win the trophy is a difficult thing for them to do because beside from PSG there is no team that really strong in Ligue 1, in my opinion only the champions league competition is able to provide a balanced opponent for PSG at the moment, when it comes to mbappe ego, of course I think he has gone too far in being given freedom and obviously it will only destroy PSG from within internally slowly.

Honestly you do not have to win the title to have "success" in ligue 1. If you could become second, and stay there for a few years in a row, and manage to stay in the UCL groups, and then even go out of the groups to further stages, that is going to be a success. The problem with ligue 1 teams is that we do not see the same team in the top 3 all the time.

Just because PSG is first doesn't mean that another team can't be consistently be in the top 3 or even top 5. Do that for 5 years in a row and you would have a good amount of money in your bank, and UCL would pay you well enough as well. That would make sure that the team will have a chance against PSG eventually, or even if not, at least be good continentally as well.

For ligue 1 trams, it can be said that they all have equal strength apart from PSG. It could mean that if PSG was not in ligue 1 the league would have been a very competitive league. So it is good to say that psg is in a different class and they will remain there because no other club has that big money to buy good number of good players.

For Mbappe ego, it is expected that it should happen, power gives arrogance, then power + money should give more arrogance. Besides he is still a young boy.

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Quote from: poldanmig on August 30, 2022, 01:50:27 PM

For ligue 1 no one doubts that PSG is the strongest candidate to win the title again, so far the other existing teams are only struggling to get through to the champions league, while to win the trophy is a difficult thing for them to do because beside from PSG there is no team that really strong in Ligue 1, in my opinion only the champions league competition is able to provide a balanced opponent for PSG at the moment, when it comes to mbappe ego, of course I think he has gone too far in being given freedom and obviously it will only destroy PSG from within internally slowly.

Honestly you do not have to win the title to have "success" in ligue 1. If you could become second, and stay there for a few years in a row, and manage to stay in the UCL groups, and then even go out of the groups to further stages, that is going to be a success. The problem with ligue 1 teams is that we do not see the same team in the top 3 all the time.

Just because PSG is first doesn't mean that another team can't be consistently be in the top 3 or even top 5. Do that for 5 years in a row and you would have a good amount of money in your bank, and UCL would pay you well enough as well. That would make sure that the team will have a chance against PSG eventually, or even if not, at least be good continentally as well.

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Quote from: arimamib on August 30, 2022, 01:35:13 PM

Quote from: hahay on August 30, 2022, 09:35:44 AM

Although they are not very good at building chemistry, but for Ligue 1 they will still have the trophy. But for the main tournament which is actually the club owner's target to win the Champions League, then of course with their attitude like that, PSG will never get it. After all, the freedom that Mbappe has is given by the PSG management themselves, which means they must be prepared to accept the risk if at this time their chemistry is destroyed because of the gap in the rules they have.

PSG gave Mbappe too much freedom which made him big head, the selfishness of Mbappe was formed from PSG own mistakes. When the chemistry of the players begins to break, the team will become two camps. This condition will be a ticking time bomb for PSG, maybe they can win the Ligue 1 trophy easily, but for a more competitive league with big teams, PSG can't be a winner there. It seems the PSG owner will have to be more patient to see his club win the Champions League trophy.

For ligue 1 no one doubts that PSG is the strongest candidate to win the title again, so far the other existing teams are only struggling to get through to the champions league, while to win the trophy is a difficult thing for them to do because beside from PSG there is no team that really strong in Ligue 1, in my opinion only the champions league competition is able to provide a balanced opponent for PSG at the moment, when it comes to mbappe ego, of course I think he has gone too far in being given freedom and obviously it will only destroy PSG from within internally slowly.

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Quote from: hahay on August 30, 2022, 09:35:44 AM

Although they are not very good at building chemistry, but for Ligue 1 they will still have the trophy. But for the main tournament which is actually the club owner's target to win the Champions League, then of course with their attitude like that, PSG will never get it. After all, the freedom that Mbappe has is given by the PSG management themselves, which means they must be prepared to accept the risk if at this time their chemistry is destroyed because of the gap in the rules they have.

PSG gave Mbappe too much freedom which made him big head, the selfishness of Mbappe was formed from PSG own mistakes. When the chemistry of the players begins to break, the team will become two camps. This condition will be a ticking time bomb for PSG, maybe they can win the Ligue 1 trophy easily, but for a more competitive league with big teams, PSG can't be a winner there. It seems the PSG owner will have to be more patient to see his club win the Champions League trophy.

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Quote from: karabiber on August 29, 2022, 03:45:20 PM

Mbappe played selfishly from the beginning of the match and spent the attacks. No matter how talented he is his perspective on the game is terrible and his passing choices are wrong. PSG's defensive line was bad. I think Messi is isolated from the game. It was as if they had agreed not to pass the ball to Messi. Galtier was disappointing in this match. PSG's appearance is far from being a team. Messi and Neymar will save PSG.

Mbappe did play selfishly, but theoretically this can be justified by the fact that he played in the position of a central striker and should have shot on goal. You overestimate Messi, there is no conspiracy against him - even in Barcelona, his effectiveness always depended on the team. Obviously, playing on the right flank, he has fewer opportunities to participate in the attack, since he does not really like to run Wink

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