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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on August 18, 2022, 09:54:55 AM

I just wanted to think that PSG would find a solution for the problem between Neymar and Mbappe. But things are still the same now seemingly. Mbappe is really the person who doesn't want to see Neymar at the team anymore. His not respecting Neymar too much makes Neymar uncomfortable. I wonder why Mbappe doesn't have a similar relationship to the one he has with Messi now. As long as the trio don't leave all the problems behind it is still a big risk for PSG's possible successes.

The effect of his new deal with PSG is just getting to him. When you give Mbappe such tremendous amount of power especially when he's not ready for it, you're gonna have a player who will be overwhelmed. He has to grow to match the powers handed to him OR become consumed by it. Mbappe is proving to be stubborn and that'll affect his career.

This is what happens when the player is bigger than the club.
By now he must have felt big because indeed with the authority he had, it was quite natural for his selfishness to increase.
Now this must be cooled down immediately and Mbappe must change his selfishness so that he can perform more optimally because this kind of attitude will actually hinder his career sooner or later.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on August 18, 2022, 09:54:55 AM

I just wanted to think that PSG would find a solution for the problem between Neymar and Mbappe. But things are still the same now seemingly. Mbappe is really the person who doesn't want to see Neymar at the team anymore. His not respecting Neymar too much makes Neymar uncomfortable. I wonder why Mbappe doesn't have a similar relationship to the one he has with Messi now. As long as the trio don't leave all the problems behind it is still a big risk for PSG's possible successes.

The effect of his new deal with PSG is just getting to him. When you give Mbappe such tremendous amount of power especially when he's not ready for it, you're gonna have a player who will be overwhelmed. He has to grow to match the powers handed to him OR become consumed by it. Mbappe is proving to be stubborn and that'll affect his career.

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Quote from: KTChampions on August 18, 2022, 10:55:06 AM

Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on August 18, 2022, 09:54:55 AM

I just wanted to think that PSG would find a solution for the problem between Neymar and Mbappe. But things are still the same now seemingly. Mbappe is really the person who doesn't want to see Neymar at the team anymore. His not respecting Neymar too much makes Neymar uncomfortable. I wonder why Mbappe doesn't have a similar relationship to the one he has with Messi now. As long as the trio don't leave all the problems behind it is still a big risk for PSG's possible successes.

In a football sense, Messi is already the past and I think that he initially came to PSG as more of a promoter than as a player around whom the game will be built - everyone understands that if not next year, then in a year Messi will leave. With Neymar, the situation is just the opposite - initially he came to the club as a "main star" and he had some kind of agreement on privileges or something like that. Now, after Mbappe has been signed on the new terms of the main star, their conflict is to some extent inevitable, especially given Mbappe's arrogance and selfishness.

Kylian Mbappe needs some sense into that skull of his, both of them should fix things up real quick as portraying such childish Acton the pitch is such embarrassing for me.
He should drop his shoulders and play soccer, like what's up with the lad ? He should go take a good look at Messi when he was 22 years of age. This attitude from Mbappe will take him no where, as I find it toxic for the team spirit of other players.
You're correct about Lionel Messi, also he has won it all and is only trying to win more in another league. Discipline lacked if you take a good look.... Galtier should get that into his skull

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on August 18, 2022, 09:54:55 AM

I just wanted to think that PSG would find a solution for the problem between Neymar and Mbappe. But things are still the same now seemingly. Mbappe is really the person who doesn't want to see Neymar at the team anymore. His not respecting Neymar too much makes Neymar uncomfortable. I wonder why Mbappe doesn't have a similar relationship to the one he has with Messi now. As long as the trio don't leave all the problems behind it is still a big risk for PSG's possible successes.

In a football sense, Messi is already the past and I think that he initially came to PSG as more of a promoter than as a player around whom the game will be built - everyone understands that if not next year, then in a year Messi will leave. With Neymar, the situation is just the opposite - initially he came to the club as a "main star" and he had some kind of agreement on privileges or something like that. Now, after Mbappe has been signed on the new terms of the main star, their conflict is to some extent inevitable, especially given Mbappe's arrogance and selfishness.

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I just wanted to think that PSG would find a solution for the problem between Neymar and Mbappe. But things are still the same now seemingly. Mbappe is really the person who doesn't want to see Neymar at the team anymore. His not respecting Neymar too much makes Neymar uncomfortable. I wonder why Mbappe doesn't have a similar relationship to the one he has with Messi now. As long as the trio don't leave all the problems behind it is still a big risk for PSG's possible successes.

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Quote from: DU18 on August 18, 2022, 07:57:30 AM

Quote from: Doell on August 18, 2022, 07:32:08 AM

The conflict started because Mbappe allegedly proposed to PSG to sell Neymar in the near future, even before this season started, the cold war between them will indeed affect the cohesiveness of the team. I agree if Mbappe doesn't respect seniors maybe it is for one reason or another, but yes it is not at all justified they should have an open conversation Mbappe PSG Neymar to find a good solution.

The current conflicts in the PSG squad all started from the privileges that PSG gave to Mbappe, as I recall, Mbappe had used this privilege by asking PSG to immediately sell Neymar to another club, despite Mbappe dislike for Neymar, Mbappe should have been professional and respecting neymar as his senior in football, reportedly now PSG and Galtier will hold a meeting to immediately resolve the issue but I don't think that mbappe will want to reduce his ego at this time even in front of the coach though Grin

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This is the risk when the club giving privileges to young boy 23 years old that he will be selfish and will force his wants to other players because PSG giving special right for him and actually this conflict has starting since last season when Mbappe is disappointed to Neymar performance which cannot playing as people expected and i believe this only just a beginning because possibly he will start a conflict with the other players which he doesn't like besides Neymar and i have to says Mbappe is more bigger than PSG now so if this conflict unsolved i think it would have any effect to team performance

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on August 17, 2022, 07:49:56 PM

If we look at the table, Paris Saint Germain is the only team that started the League smoothly. They were able to get 2 wins in the first 2 matches, and also they were the only team that was the most productive by scoring 10 goals in those 2 matches. How could they possibly slip up with the squad they have? I can already say that they will come back as champions.

Here is nothing new French League is completely dominating by PSG for last few years, and they are giving their best as we can watch right now just two matches and ten goals done by them against their opponents most of the others teams are having no sources like them for staying at same level lack of funds and quality players are surely the biggest problems for them but still few teams are improving and having some good players which are giving them good support for doing good.

Now in next round, we are going to have a good match as Lille is going to face leaders PSG which is surely a test for home team can they do better or as usual PSG is going to ruin them at their home and going with full three points.

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Quote from: Doell on August 18, 2022, 07:32:08 AM

The conflict started because Mbappe allegedly proposed to PSG to sell Neymar in the near future, even before this season started, the cold war between them will indeed affect the cohesiveness of the team. I agree if Mbappe doesn't respect seniors maybe it is for one reason or another, but yes it is not at all justified they should have an open conversation Mbappe PSG Neymar to find a good solution.

The current conflicts in the PSG squad all started from the privileges that PSG gave to Mbappe, as I recall, Mbappe had used this privilege by asking PSG to immediately sell Neymar to another club, despite Mbappe dislike for Neymar, Mbappe should have been professional and respecting neymar as his senior in football, reportedly now PSG and Galtier will hold a meeting to immediately resolve the issue but I don't think that mbappe will want to reduce his ego at this time even in front of the coach though Grin

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Quote from: hahay on August 17, 2022, 10:23:25 AM

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Quote from: Lordhermes on August 16, 2022, 05:36:59 PM

Looking at the other side of this story on the issues growing between Neymar and Mbape,it can in other words bring success to the team,because the both players will have a competition between them which will make them thrive towards getting more goals individually,and it will help the team.They will both be fighting for who will have the highest goal,so I see that the rivalry between them will inturn bring good result.

But I think this is a serious matter, they don't reprimand. I read in the local media this issue made the PSG Council have a meeting. I don't know what the result will be. But they should have evaluated their decision with Mbappe.
Maybe if the competition is healthy and they still remain familiar it doesn't matter. But they were no longer reprimanded. Even at practice they don't want to be together. In addition in the last game Mbappe looked disappointed. In attack mbappe looked running but after the ball was passed to the right he then stopped and looked very disappointed.

With incidents like that, I conclude, it looks like Mbappe is a young player but has no respect for his more senior teammates. Indeed, Mbappe has a special contract at PSG but it would be better if Mbappe also has respect for senior players which is clearly a good behavior. If it's like this, then Mbappe as a young player will be very dangerous for the team because he has the privileges that PSG give him but can't use it wisely, it's a pity.

The conflict started because Mbappe allegedly proposed to PSG to sell Neymar in the near future, even before this season started, the cold war between them will indeed affect the cohesiveness of the team. I agree if Mbappe doesn't respect seniors maybe it is for one reason or another, but yes it is not at all justified they should have an open conversation Mbappe PSG Neymar to find a good solution.

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Quote from: Minecache on August 18, 2022, 01:14:00 AM

PSG has a very strong squad. Their main problem is a lack of coordination. Players are not friendly with each other. Coach Galtier is responsible for solving these internal problems. If he is able to solve the internal problems of the team and create a good match strategy for the Champions League, then PSG will be able to perform well in the Champions League. I would say everything will depend on Coach Galtier now.

Yes right, The only problem that stands out from them is the harmony between the players. Yes, in some matches, they don't even hesitate to show that they don't have a harmonious relationship, the impact on the team's performance. In the domestic league it probably won't be a big problem, because the quality of their opponents can also be said to be far below them. But in the Champions League, as we have seen, they have had difficult times.

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Quote from: hahay on August 17, 2022, 10:23:25 AM

With incidents like that, I conclude, it looks like Mbappe is a young player but has no respect for his more senior teammates. Indeed, Mbappe has a special contract at PSG but it would be better if Mbappe also has respect for senior players which is clearly a good behavior. If it's like this, then Mbappe as a young player will be very dangerous for the team because he has the privileges that PSG give him but can't use it wisely, it's a pity.

PSG allows him to do so just like they allowed Neymar a lot of privileges when he joined them 5 years ago. Neymar understands that story but he does not accept failure too easily. In fact, Mbappe did not improve his skills a lot in last 2 seasons and he likely has reached to his best in skills. A few years later, when his speed is no longer good like now, he will have decrease in performance.

I don't like the way PSG destroys Mbappe like this. They should not allow this to happen. It is better for the whole club and for Mbappe personally.

Quote from: emrecemsan on August 17, 2022, 02:08:47 PM

I also didn't like Mbappe's attitude like to stop running after not being passed the ball. This kind of incidents can always happen in the end. Mbappe shouldn't give up this easy just because he didn't get the ball. He is shown as one of the best footballers now. He is like the heir of Ronaldo and Messi in today's football. This kind of attitudes can cause people to start thinking negative about him.

Mbappe is too young but he is too arrogant and selfish. I remember 10 or 20 years ago, star players at young ages, did not react like Mbappe.

They are legendary players, Ronaldo Brazil, Batistuta, Raul, Shevchenko, and more. Maybe the way football clubs operate recent years and how they are ready to pay very high salary for players give chance for young players like Mbappe to change into negative ways.

I more like Haaland as I see that player is more professional and less selfish than Mbappe. It looks like we have a mix combination of Ronaldo and Messi. Mbappe has part of skills like Messi but he is selfish like Ronaldo. Haaland is a striker and more similar to Ronaldo in skills but he does not selfish like Ronaldo.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on August 18, 2022, 02:47:25 AM

Quote from: hahay on August 17, 2022, 10:23:25 AM

With incidents like that, I conclude, it looks like Mbappe is a young player but has no respect for his more senior teammates. Indeed, Mbappe has a special contract at PSG but it would be better if Mbappe also has respect for senior players which is clearly a good behavior. If it's like this, then Mbappe as a young player will be very dangerous for the team because he has the privileges that PSG give him but can't use it wisely, it's a pity.

the incident between mbappe and neymar has been well resolved and this has been confirmed by the management of psg. however, the same thing could happen again at any time if one of them restarted the dispute.
mbappe special rights become one of the boomerangs that can destroy their solidity in the field later, the effect is that they will play badly with the selfishness of the two stars.
the champions league hasn't started yet however, the incident has happened again for the umpteenth time. this will not be good in the future, galtier must take a firm stand, especially the president of psg must step down to revoke mbappe's privileges.

@hahay I don’t blame him because he continued with then under the promise that he would be their main star, and now Messi and Neymar are stealing his thunder and he has a right to be upset. Furthermore the end scenario will be that he’ll tell the club to sell them, or he’ll threaten to force a transfer in January or next season hence it’ll be really interesting to see what happens next.

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Quote from: hahay on August 17, 2022, 10:23:25 AM

With incidents like that, I conclude, it looks like Mbappe is a young player but has no respect for his more senior teammates. Indeed, Mbappe has a special contract at PSG but it would be better if Mbappe also has respect for senior players which is clearly a good behavior. If it's like this, then Mbappe as a young player will be very dangerous for the team because he has the privileges that PSG give him but can't use it wisely, it's a pity.

the incident between mbappe and neymar has been well resolved and this has been confirmed by the management of psg. however, the same thing could happen again at any time if one of them restarted the dispute.
mbappe special rights become one of the boomerangs that can destroy their solidity in the field later, the effect is that they will play badly with the selfishness of the two stars.
the champions league hasn't started yet however, the incident has happened again for the umpteenth time. this will not be good in the future, galtier must take a firm stand, especially the president of psg must step down to revoke mbappe's privileges.

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Quote from: blue Snow on August 18, 2022, 12:45:27 AM

I don't surprise, they have a dream team squad, with every place filled up with quality players. Precisely going to be weird if they only create 1 goal in every match. Paris Saint Germain deserves to be aligned with madrid, mancity, juventus, barca, the discrepancy wouldn't appear if they fight with them in the champions league, and If they are able to defeat them, and got the champions league title, we will recognize them.

Unusual problem with dream team squad always have one or several player show their individual skill without prefer with team working, but only happening with PSG because there are still have with dream team squad like Manchester City, Barcelona and Real Madrid. Keep they can show team working and penalty kicker happening on PSG never have any people want to be kicker after manager controlling before game playing who will take corner kick, free kick and actually with penalty kick. I think PSG need to change how to make keep on working team because they have biggest target in this season with UEFA Champion League trophy.

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Quote from: blue Snow on August 18, 2022, 12:45:27 AM

Quote from: tulusikhlas on August 17, 2022, 07:49:56 PM

If we look at the table, Paris Saint Germain is the only team that started the League smoothly. They were able to get 2 wins in the first 2 matches, and also they were the only team that was the most productive by scoring 10 goals in those 2 matches. How could they possibly slip up with the squad they have? I can already say that they will come back as champions.

I don't surprise, they have a dream team squad, with every place filled up with quality players. Precisely going to be weird if they only create 1 goal in every match. Paris Saint Germain deserves to be aligned with madrid, mancity, juventus, barca, the discrepancy wouldn't appear if they fight with them in the champions league, and If they are able to defeat them, and got the champions league title, we will recognize them.

PSG has a very strong squad. Their main problem is a lack of coordination. Players are not friendly with each other. Coach Galtier is responsible for solving these internal problems. If he is able to solve the internal problems of the team and create a good match strategy for the Champions League, then PSG will be able to perform well in the Champions League. I would say everything will depend on Coach Galtier now.

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on August 17, 2022, 07:49:56 PM

If we look at the table, Paris Saint Germain is the only team that started the League smoothly. They were able to get 2 wins in the first 2 matches, and also they were the only team that was the most productive by scoring 10 goals in those 2 matches. How could they possibly slip up with the squad they have? I can already say that they will come back as champions.

I don't surprise, they have a dream team squad, with every place filled up with quality players. Precisely going to be weird if they only create 1 goal in every match. Paris Saint Germain deserves to be aligned with madrid, mancity, juventus, barca, the discrepancy wouldn't appear if they fight with them in the champions league, and If they are able to defeat them, and got the champions league title, we will recognize them.

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If we look at the table, Paris Saint Germain is the only team that started the League smoothly. They were able to get 2 wins in the first 2 matches, and also they were the only team that was the most productive by scoring 10 goals in those 2 matches. How could they possibly slip up with the squad they have? I can already say that they will come back as champions.

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Lyon kickstart against L'Orient who had them first league game postponed also Lyon should come into this game with assured mindset knowing very well they haven't lost a game on a Friday night fixture in the French League for over three good years
This should be them second win of the season since they began this season.As former Arsenal player Lacazzette would be open to score another goal in the fixture

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Quote from: Luzin on August 17, 2022, 06:43:48 AM

Quote from: Lordhermes on August 16, 2022, 05:36:59 PM

Looking at the other side of this story on the issues growing between Neymar and Mbape,it can in other words bring success to the team,because the both players will have a competition between them which will make them thrive towards getting more goals individually,and it will help the team.They will both be fighting for who will have the highest goal,so I see that the rivalry between them will inturn bring good result.

But I think this is a serious matter, they don't reprimand. I read in the local media this issue made the PSG Council have a meeting. I don't know what the result will be. But they should have evaluated their decision with Mbappe.
Maybe if the competition is healthy and they still remain familiar it doesn't matter. But they were no longer reprimanded. Even at practice they don't want to be together. In addition in the last game Mbappe looked disappointed. In attack mbappe looked running but after the ball was passed to the right he then stopped and looked very disappointed.

I would guess that it won't be helpful in a healthy way, it will be hurting a lot more. Imagine situations where one can pass to the other for an easy goal and still shoots himself instead and misses, that could hurt the team a lot and when you are talking about playing against easy Ligue 1 teams that is not a problem but when we are talking about playing in UCL that could change a lot.

They need to make sure that the team gets along well enough, otherwise it is not going to be good at all and it will cause them to lose again. Winning the league title is not a big deal and it could easily happen, but when we are talking about bigger things, like UCL, this won't work.

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Quote from: emrecemsan on August 17, 2022, 02:08:47 PM

I also didn't like Mbappe's attitude like to stop running after not being passed the ball. This kind of incidents can always happen in the end. Mbappe shouldn't give up this easy just because he didn't get the ball. He is shown as one of the best footballers now. He is like the heir of Ronaldo and Messi in today's football. This kind of attitudes can cause people to start thinking negative about him.

Mbappe selfish attitude is increasingly difficult to control, several times he has shown a less professional attitude on the field. As the player who receives the most expensive salary in the PSG squad, he must always play well regardless of the conditions that occur on the field. The selfish attitude displayed by Mbappe can damage his image as the successor to Messi and Ronaldo in the list of the world best players. The unprofessional attitude shown by Mbappe can also harm PSG, now PSG are dogged by regret because their maneuver by rejecting an offer from Real Madrid backfired because Mbappe attitude was increasingly difficult to control.

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