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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on October 06, 2021, 08:42:42 AM

I've had time to watch a few PSG match so far and I think there are some players who still have high egos in the team and it's not just about Mbappe. The ball supply to Messi from the midfield is a little different to what he gets at Barcelona so I quite often find him in the 1/4 of the pitch picking up the ball. Remember Messi's goal process against Manchester City?

it seems that there is still a gap between Messi and several other players. the match at that time (vs Manchester City) was already in sight. the supply of the ball from the middle for Messi is very lacking. it made him have to back down to get the ball. Could this also be related to the issue of competition between players who will be replaced due to Messi's arrival at PSG?
but if the coach can solve this problem, and Messi returns to his rhythm at PSG. I think Messi will score more goals.

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Quote from: kassex on October 06, 2021, 07:04:03 AM

Players need time to get used to each other. Over time, mutual understanding will improve and this trio will show an enchanting game. Give time to Psg. And you don't have to judge the team after a couple of bad games.

I agree with you because Messi, Neymar and Mbappe have only played a few match and I don't think it's bad enough for them. PSG is not bad but I hope the coach can turn those three players into a scary trio in Europe this season. I don't know why the three of them had to fail unless they were so selfish with each other.

Quote from: Luzin on October 06, 2021, 07:58:51 AM

Neymar and Messi played together at Barca. So they already understand each other. Moreover, Di Maria, he is a fellow countryman, of course he also really understands the nature of Messi. What is yet to be seen is Mbappe, although against Man City in the UCL Mbappe provided one great assist. he's still young besides that his ego is still very high. Yes I believe they need a process, maybe half of the season they will look better. But I heard that Mbappe wants to go to Madrid. Even though it's just a rumor, but it might happen.

I've had time to watch a few PSG match so far and I think there are some players who still have high egos in the team and it's not just about Mbappe. The ball supply to Messi from the midfield is a little different to what he gets at Barcelona so I quite often find him in the 1/4 of the pitch picking up the ball. Remember Messi's goal process against Manchester City?

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Quote from: CLS63 on October 06, 2021, 05:25:00 AM

I think that the surprising teams of this season are Lens and Nice. Lens are extremely good that they are already at the second place in the standings. They have a decent form and they were really lucky in their last game also as Reims got a red card. And we saw another victory for Lens. Considering the fact that Nice had a terrible season last and ended the season at the 9th place, they are doing awesome now. They are right behind Lens by 2 points. I wonder if this duo or at least one of them will be able to keep up their performance till the last week.

Instead of Nice, I salute Angers more, they are in 4th place in the Ligue 1 standings even though they are a much weaker club than Nice, Marseille, Monaco, Lille and Lyon.

Talking about Nice, they have only played 8 games at the moment which most of the other teams have played 9 games. This means that in the near future they can occupy the second position of the Ligue 1 standings.

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Quote from: CryptoBuds on October 06, 2021, 07:57:09 AM

Give the PSG team time, they will definitely be more stable and strong. Although strong as a team, their performance has not impressed me.

Result is the final thing and title is the one you will be remembered in history if you get it. In early matches, PSG did not need Neymar, Mbappe and Veratti to win in Ligue 1 and they can do the same in the future.

They only need time to combine those players and prepare for Champions League. They won't get trouble to win Ligue 1 in my opinion.

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Messi-Neymar-Mbappe is one of the best players of this era. My expectation was that the PSG team would attack the opponent a lot and break the opponent’s defense. We have not seen anything like that yet. The coach should talk to the players, find out where the players are having problems. And to strengthen the bonds between the players.

The trouble those players can cause for PSG is they don't proactively support the defense system. It is acceptable if one player has privilege to be free from defense. However, if there are three players in a team, it would be a big trouble. Pochettino have to work with them and change the tactic to fix it. Champions League will be the one to verify the defense system and tactic of PSG with three purely attacking players.

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on October 06, 2021, 06:44:02 AM

In my opinion, Messi's adaptation is still not perfect at PSG so his contribution doesn't seem to hurt other team much. But sooner or later, those three players will be very scary this season.

Neymar and Messi played together at Barca. So they already understand each other. Moreover, Di Maria, he is a fellow countryman, of course he also really understands the nature of Messi. What is yet to be seen is Mbappe, although against Man City in the UCL Mbappe provided one great assist. he's still young besides that his ego is still very high. Yes I believe they need a process, maybe half of the season they will look better. But I heard that Mbappe wants to go to Madrid. Even though it's just a rumor, but it might happen.

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I don't think that PSG can have both Mbappe and Haaland at the same time. Firstly they cant afford that, and if they keep both of them, they will have to sell players like Neymar or Di Maria who play in a similar position. But the sign of Messi adapting to the new environment is very refreshing for the fans and the coach himself. Maybe Pochettiono has to play around with the formations and tactics more to find out what works best. So he has to spend some more time on the drawing board in these next couple of weeks.

PSG could afford to buy Haaland and keep Mbabbpe as well as Neymar, but maybe they will have to face problems with financial fair play making it impossible to have all three in one team. The duet of Mbappe, Neymar and Messi has not given much positive results for PSG so far. PSG may be able to win the match, but these three players have not performed well enough as a great attacking three because when they play in one match. In my opinion, Messi's adaptation is still not perfect at PSG so his contribution doesn't seem to hurt other team much. But sooner or later, those three players will be very scary this season.

Players need time to get used to each other. Over time, mutual understanding will improve and this trio will show an enchanting game. Give time to Psg. And you don't have to judge the team after a couple of bad games.

Give the PSG team time, they will definitely be more stable and strong. Although strong as a team, their performance has not impressed me. Messi-Neymar-Mbappe is one of the best players of this era. My expectation was that the PSG team would attack the opponent a lot and break the opponent’s defense. We have not seen anything like that yet. The coach should talk to the players, find out where the players are having problems. And to strengthen the bonds between the players.

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I don't think that PSG can have both Mbappe and Haaland at the same time. Firstly they cant afford that, and if they keep both of them, they will have to sell players like Neymar or Di Maria who play in a similar position. But the sign of Messi adapting to the new environment is very refreshing for the fans and the coach himself. Maybe Pochettiono has to play around with the formations and tactics more to find out what works best. So he has to spend some more time on the drawing board in these next couple of weeks.

PSG could afford to buy Haaland and keep Mbabbpe as well as Neymar, but maybe they will have to face problems with financial fair play making it impossible to have all three in one team. The duet of Mbappe, Neymar and Messi has not given much positive results for PSG so far. PSG may be able to win the match, but these three players have not performed well enough as a great attacking three because when they play in one match. In my opinion, Messi's adaptation is still not perfect at PSG so his contribution doesn't seem to hurt other team much. But sooner or later, those three players will be very scary this season.

Players need time to get used to each other. Over time, mutual understanding will improve and this trio will show an enchanting game. Give time to Psg. And you don't have to judge the team after a couple of bad games.

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Quote from: Minecache on October 06, 2021, 06:30:14 AM

I don't think that PSG can have both Mbappe and Haaland at the same time. Firstly they cant afford that, and if they keep both of them, they will have to sell players like Neymar or Di Maria who play in a similar position. But the sign of Messi adapting to the new environment is very refreshing for the fans and the coach himself. Maybe Pochettiono has to play around with the formations and tactics more to find out what works best. So he has to spend some more time on the drawing board in these next couple of weeks.

PSG could afford to buy Haaland and keep Mbabbpe as well as Neymar, but maybe they will have to face problems with financial fair play making it impossible to have all three in one team. The duet of Mbappe, Neymar and Messi has not given much positive results for PSG so far. PSG may be able to win the match, but these three players have not performed well enough as a great attacking three because when they play in one match. In my opinion, Messi's adaptation is still not perfect at PSG so his contribution doesn't seem to hurt other team much. But sooner or later, those three players will be very scary this season.

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It is good to see that Lille and Monaco both are getting better week by week. Last, Lille defeated even Marseille by 2-0. And the red card eased their job too as they found the second goal after that incident. But they still showed a good performance. And Monaco defeated Bordeaux by 3-0 which was a very solid result for them. They just had the control of the match and ended their opponent.

Now, Lille and Monaco both have 14 points and have been winning for three weeks. I hope that they can continue to climb the places.

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Quote from: hd49728 on October 05, 2021, 11:08:56 AM

Messi is genius and he will adapt to the new mates, new tactic very soon. He shows some signal of good adaptation recently and I believe he will show his best after the Christmas.
About transfer, there is news that Haaland will join PSG to replace Mbappe.
Erling Haaland's agent Mino Raiola will 'request an eyewatering £43MILLION-a-year salary' for the striker to join PSG.

I don't think PSG will accept the complete loss in the case of Mbappe and they will try all things they can do to renew a contract with KM7. It would be a too dangerous team if they can keep Mbappe and have Haaland. Messi only play in Paris 2 to 3 seasons and at his age, he will have to face with downside of his performance soon. Mbappe and Haaland will be the future.

I don't think that PSG can have both Mbappe and Haaland at the same time. Firstly they cant afford that, and if they keep both of them, they will have to sell players like Neymar or Di Maria who play in a similar position. But the sign of Messi adapting to the new environment is very refreshing for the fans and the coach himself. Maybe Pochettiono has to play around with the formations and tactics more to find out what works best. So he has to spend some more time on the drawing board in these next couple of weeks.

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I think that the surprising teams of this season are Lens and Nice. Lens are extremely good that they are already at the second place in the standings. They have a decent form and they were really lucky in their last game also as Reims got a red card. And we saw another victory for Lens. Considering the fact that Nice had a terrible season last and ended the season at the 9th place, they are doing awesome now. They are right behind Lens by 2 points. I wonder if this duo or at least one of them will be able to keep up their performance till the last week.

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Quote from: hd49728 on October 05, 2021, 11:08:56 AM

I don't think PSG will accept the complete loss in the case of Mbappe and they will try all things they can do to renew a contract with KM7. It would be a too dangerous team if they can keep Mbappe and have Haaland. Messi only play in Paris 2 to 3 seasons and at his age, he will have to face with downside of his performance soon. Mbappe and Haaland will be the future.

Well if what Mbappe said is true that he already informed them in July he wanted to leave, and then they said he only told them in late August, then I don't think there's already anything left to say or do. He's been upset by them, and now they're slinging mud saying Real is acting as if they already own Mbappe.

This is not going to end well, he will sign for someone else in January, and they missed out on 200 million euros.

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Quote from: kassex on October 05, 2021, 03:33:57 AM

One of the three - Messi, Neymar, Mbappé - is superfluous. One of them has to leave. In this case, Psj will have a balance in the team and Messi will be as usual in his position. And when the enemy attacks, there will be plus one player in defense. Pochettino tries to find a balance, but he fails. And I don't think it will work out. We can expect a couple of such games in the future, when the team will not succeed.

Three players don't contribute too much for defense system and it would be serious weakness of PSG when they face with teams that have dangerous counter attacks. Bayern Munich is one of such opponents. Pochettino have to focus more on defensive midfielders and tactics to support defenders because I think he would not succeed to require Mbappe, Neymar or Messi to do defensive tasks.

Quote from: Minor Miner on October 05, 2021, 04:16:46 AM

Pocchettino has now arranged the PSG team in such a formation, with this formation the players of the team are completely new. So they are not being able to play well from their place. Give them time, maybe in a few days they will be able to perform better from their place. And even then if the team will not stable. Then coach Pocchettino must think of something alternative. He has to change the formation.

Messi is genius and he will adapt to the new mates, new tactic very soon. He shows some signal of good adaptation recently and I believe he will show his best after the Christmas.

About transfer, there is news that Haaland will join PSG to replace Mbappe.
Erling Haaland's agent Mino Raiola will 'request an eyewatering £43MILLION-a-year salary' for the striker to join PSG.

I don't think PSG will accept the complete loss in the case of Mbappe and they will try all things they can do to renew a contract with KM7. It would be a too dangerous team if they can keep Mbappe and have Haaland. Messi only play in Paris 2 to 3 seasons and at his age, he will have to face with downside of his performance soon. Mbappe and Haaland will be the future.

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Quote from: kassex on October 05, 2021, 03:33:57 AM

One of the three - Messi, Neymar, Mbappé - is superfluous. One of them has to leave. In this case, Psj will have a balance in the team and Messi will be as usual in his position. And when the enemy attacks, there will be plus one player in defense. Pochettino tries to find a balance, but he fails. And I don't think it will work out. We can expect a couple of such games in the future, when the team will not succeed.

Pocchettino has now arranged the PSG team in such a formation, with this formation the players of the team are completely new. So they are not being able to play well from their place. Give them time, maybe in a few days they will be able to perform better from their place. And even then if the team will not stable. Then coach Pocchettino must think of something alternative. He has to change the formation.

Yes I thought of the same thing. Changed the normal 4-3-3 formation of three defensive midfielders to just two men midfield in a formation of 4-2-3-1. He wanted to experiment a new formation by involving Di maria but it back fired. Marco Verratti and Idrissa Gueye couldn't protect the the back line. It is normal if they lost a single game in about 10 games. Personally, the three man midfield is preferable considering the habit of the offensively players. Messi, Neymar, Mbappe do not help defensively and it endangers the team if there is no good defensive cover from the midfield. He is trying to involve Di Maria into the team, but it did not work out well against Rennes.

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Quote from: savetheFORUM on October 04, 2021, 01:47:07 PM

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Cannot believe I'm following French league now. I really miss Messi (and Ramos?!?!) Wink

This was really shocking match for many because in this season no one was expecting result like this but still Rennes done job, we all know PSG is going to do some big in this season, but this match was nightmare for them.
Odds were @6.5 for Rennes and @1.4 for PSG.

We have too much noise about this match around here because mostly peoples those follow French Ligue they know its not easy match for PSG and history between these two teams in last 5 matches Rennes won 3 time and PSG just once and one is draw.

Well, as many have already pointed out, it wasn't SUCH a big shock actually, since Rennes have an incredible record against PSG. It's all about the bogey team when it comes to this type of football. Tactics can be nullified (zero shots on target proves this).

Perhaps in the past Rennes would be 10.x against PSG but their fans must be happy to get nice profits in every time they meet Wink

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Quote from: kassex on October 05, 2021, 03:33:57 AM

One of the three - Messi, Neymar, Mbappé - is superfluous. One of them has to leave. In this case, Psj will have a balance in the team and Messi will be as usual in his position. And when the enemy attacks, there will be plus one player in defense. Pochettino tries to find a balance, but he fails. And I don't think it will work out. We can expect a couple of such games in the future, when the team will not succeed.

Pocchettino has now arranged the PSG team in such a formation, with this formation the players of the team are completely new. So they are not being able to play well from their place. Give them time, maybe in a few days they will be able to perform better from their place. And even then if the team will not stable. Then coach Pocchettino must think of something alternative. He has to change the formation.

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One of the three - Messi, Neymar, Mbappé - is superfluous. One of them has to leave. In this case, Psj will have a balance in the team and Messi will be as usual in his position. And when the enemy attacks, there will be plus one player in defense. Pochettino tries to find a balance, but he fails. And I don't think it will work out. We can expect a couple of such games in the future, when the team will not succeed.

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PSG have so far been proud of their winning streak and likewise, the UCL win over City might have made him think it would be easy to win against Rennes. But the fact is that even PSG were not able to make 1 shot on goal and that is a very bad statistic for a big team with many star players. I don't understand why when these top players are combined there is nothing scary, with a lot of drama so far I see PSG as just a mediocre team who could lose again in their next match against a lower ranking team.

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Quote from: AndySt on October 04, 2021, 06:32:29 PM

The fact remains, but despite all its moments in the match, Paris Saint-Germain does not have a single hit on goal officially. Nothing terrible happened, PSG remains on the first line of the standings with a fairly comfortable margin, and coach Bruno Genesio scalps the Paris superclub for the fourth time, 3 times before with Lyon, and now with Rennes. Paris Saint-Germain head coach Mauricio Pochettino has recently been conducting various experiments with tactical formations on the football field in order to effectively fit his superstars into the team game, especially Messi, but as can be seen from the result, so far it has not worked.

There is drama that before the match, Neymar and some players of PSG had a party with a girl. Is it cause of bad performance of some players in the match with Rennes?

Neymar position in PSG is less important with the appearance of Messi. They are good friends and want to play with each other but it does not mean fans of PSG want. If Neymar can not play well, his position will be taken over by other players in PSG.

He is less professional because he was overweight after summer vacation. In the Coppa America, Neymar is not the best player of Brazil and it takes him a few weeks to burn his fat when he was back in PSG.

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Quote from: RealMalatesta on October 04, 2021, 03:44:06 PM

Quote from: savetheFORUM on October 04, 2021, 01:47:07 PM

This was really shocking match for many because in this season no one was expecting result like this but still Rennes done job, we all know PSG is going to do some big in this season, but this match was nightmare for them.
Odds were @6.5 for Rennes and @1.4 for PSG.

We have too much noise about this match around here because mostly peoples those follow French Ligue they know its not easy match for PSG and history between these two teams in last 5 matches Rennes won 3 time and PSG just once and one is draw.

I guess PSG had too many wins in a row and they were bound to lose at least one game all season, I did not see them winning the league undefeated, and it wasn't early on neither, they lost their first ever points on their 9th game. They are still 6 points ahead of the second closest team and this is just the 9th week, if they keep this level of difference then they would win the league by 20+ points, even as much as 25 points. I am not saying that the result by the end of the season will be like that, I am sure they will have even more losses and some draws as well.

However, having your first ever point loss in 9th game is a great way to start the league. I do not find any fault for them, you could lose to last team in the league if you won that much in a row, there is nothing they need to do to prove themselves, it is already obvious that they will be crowned champions.

Actually it is not surprising that PSG ended up losing, because it is very difficult to maintain successive wins. So PSG finally lost in week 9,
after previously winning 8 times in a row, it makes a lot of sense. Because PSG players are human too, there must be moments when their
performance drops. So I don't see PSG's defeat against Rennes as a big thing, PSG are just having bad luck, because in football matches
sometimes bad luck does happen. Moreover, PSG is still in first place and I believe PSG will win again in the next match.

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