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For me I think it is a similar situation though I agree with you on the fact that Barcelona is far more valuable and attractive than Lyon but that notwithstanding, you should understand that this is sports business and precisely football which is a very lucrative venture and if you go back to 2005, 2006 or thereabout, you would have noticed that Lyon was a more valuable club in France than PSG due to their exploits in the Ligue1  where they won the title multiple times but after the takeover of PSG by the Arab investors PSG changed status, so it's relatively impossible for a club like Lyon not to attract investors if the club were to be put on sale.
Maybe someday Arab investors will be interested in taking over ownership of Lyon because after all, teams like Girona in La Liga are also part of the City Football Group. Although basically Girona is a mediocre team, of course it is different from Lyon which has a great history in Ligue 1. Also, about Newcastle in the English League also being the richest team although so far there has been no clear change there. But at least, with this example, Lyon should not be pessimistic because after all, maybe in the future Lyon will dominate Ligue 1 again with the presence of investors who make the team even better. Who knows, because I sure it is possible to happen in the future.
Lyon is team that is doubtful and in the last 10 season its biggest achievement was runner-up, that happened in the 2014/15 and 2015/16 season because after that they became an unstable team that experienced lot of setbacks until now and of course this will be the answer why they are not like other team that are of interest to big investors.
On the other hand, Ligue 1 is not as popular as La Liga or the Premier League so there is no privilege or long-term benefit when investors acquire shares in team like Lyon, indeed there will always be opportunities but we also have to see first how the team is worthy of getting it or not and there are more team in La Liga and the Premier League that will be more attractive to investors.
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The significant financial difference between PSG and other teams has made ligue 1 boring, because indeed PSG's dominance in Ligue 1 is very large and makes it difficult for other teams to be able to break it, a league that is not competitive with one team that dominates of course makes ligue 1 a farmer league so far, But actually,  there are some teams that have the potential to change this dynamic in the future, such as Monaco and Marseille after what we saw in the transfer market last summer, Monaco and Marseille seem be starting have strong finances,  because I see they has signed a lot of star players and improved their performance to be stronger this season.
But even so, in the end, the competition continues and for Ligue 1, it is not the top position that is always interesting because it is always certain to be obtained by PSG, but the competition in the Champions League and Europa League zones is always a good condition to wait for.

Talking about champions, everyone must know that the financial differences, player conditions and various advantages that PSG currently has always made them the frontrunners in the fight for trophies and no one can overcome or even compete with that. But for the competition and some surprise clubs that are always there every season in the fight for the Champions League or Europa League zone, it is still an interesting treat to wait for.

In the last 2 seasons, we have always been able to witness some unexpected surprise clubs that could achieve success like Lens or even last season Brest, so actually the main focus of Ligue 1 that is interesting is the fight for positions 2-5, not the top position that is always certain to be obtained by 1 club.
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Of course, Monaco and Marseille gained a great advantage by acquiring important players in transfers, but they still cannot gain the current advantage of Psg. Psg has the best squad in the French league in every area. Marseille and Monaco, on the other hand, only have good players in certain areas. They will challenge for the top spot in the French league, but I do not think they can beat Psg.
PSG just need to lose two games for them to lose the top spot to Monaco. And it is possible for them to lose two games after all we saw what happened to Manchester City in the Premiership. Most people wouldn't have believed that the Cityzens would lose four games in a row. There are still plenty of games to play so we should not conclude that PSG will win the league. The January transfer opening will be a good chance for Marseille and Monaco to get new players who can increase their chances of fighting for the title.

I think football is unpredictable and there is a possibility of any team to lose games at any given time but in the case of PSG losing two games for Monaco to stay ahead of them, it is very possible but then I think I see more possibilities in the reverse where Monaco will drop more points by losing more than two matches for PSG to extend their lead in the league.

The French Ligue1 is not like the English Premier League competition which is one of the toughest league in my opinion so I believe PSG is the team with the strongest squad and their dominance in the team is second to none at such they will only be prepared for a better transfer market in January instead of losing the league title they are sure of this season. Manchester City may be unable to get back the league title this season because of the losses they experienced in the last few games before the international break but then we should not trust Liverpool and Arsenal because they are always weak when they get to the middle of the season.
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PSG just need to lose two games for them to lose the top spot to Monaco. And it is possible for them to lose two games after all we saw what happened to Manchester City in the Premiership. Most people wouldn't have believed that the Cityzens would lose four games in a row. There are still plenty of games to play so we should not conclude that PSG will win the league. The January transfer opening will be a good chance for Marseille and Monaco to get new players who can increase their chances of fighting for the title.
The Ligue One is known to be one of the famous farmer's league in France, who else competing for the league title if not PSG? Paris Saint-Germain stats, 9W 2D 0L this season and good reputation set by the club. The unbeaten run this season and it's consider to be one of the best form of the club. The manager of PSG, Luis Enrique doing a good job from his end, atleast he's showing good evidence this season, aiming for the big winning and definitely thrashing his oppositions. PSG have rivals this season, they wouldn't be settling for any sign or weakness because staying strong becomes a routine for them and any slight setback coming from them, there's repercussions.
It is true, PSG until now still seems to dominate Ligue 1, it is very difficult for other contestants to break their dominance. We realize that all of PSG strength comes from abundant finances, which cannot be matched by the other 17 Ligue 1 contestants, thus creating a large gap. AS Monaco and Marseille are trying to put pressure this season, the two teams seem quite serious, but they need a miracle to be able to take the trophy from PSG. Of course Marseille or AS Monaco have a chance to win the trophy, but that only happens if Luis Enrique squad plays badly in many matches. Without Mbappe, PSG are still too strong in the Ligue 1.
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Lyon is very different here. They are not Barcelona. To put this into perspective, Barcelona has around 1.35 billion debt and Lyon has over 0.5 billion debt. But is Lyon half as prominent and attractive as an investment target as Barcelona? By far not. Nobody is interested in Lyon. That is what makes the situation for them so tremendously precarious.
The situation of Lyon and Barcelona is very different even though Barcelona has a bigger debt than Lyon but they already have a big name and they can handle it well their performance is also not that bad in the league because they still have the best players in it, while Lyon does not have good players in it. Barcelona invests their money in good players and can be relied on in all conditions while Lyon's mistake that they recruit mediocre players so when their finances are in trouble the conditions change and the players' mentality drops.
While they do look different, in theory they have the same problem, and their solution is at the same place as well. Lyon may not be great transfer target without a doubt, but they do have some income, and they do have a youth squad. So instead of spending 110+ million extra on transfers, they need to realize that's not okay with financial fair play rules and they would be relegated if they do that and they need to know that before they do it. They did it anyways, and now they are in trouble.

The way to save themselves is same as Barcelona, sell your future income rights, sell some extra stuff for sponsorships, and get some young players from youth setup to play for a few seasons and hope a few of them are good. That way, they can get rid of expensive players they have, make 50-100 million in profit there, replace with young players, and use the income from other stuff as good income. Same method, just lower numbers, so I think it is not that dissimilar.
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This match may still be a long way off, around 1 week to come. But my question might be interesting for us to discuss.
Currently, the points difference between PSG and Monaco is a little further away and will PSG be able to give a points difference to Monaco in the upcoming match?
On the one hand, Monaco will not easily beat Brest because Monaco has lost consistency and if Monaco loses points in the upcoming match, I think PSG will give a 9 point difference and it will be very difficult to catch up on the points.
Monaco much earlier this season has tried to look like they were going to be a good competition to the top teams in the ligue 1 this but in recent times, their consistency qhs been poor and I doubt if they can be able to beat brest comfortably, even brest lacks that consistency but playing against better teams they try to bring out all of their best and for sure they can give a Serious resistance to Monaco in this game hence it's an opportunity for PSG to widen the gap.
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Of course, Monaco and Marseille gained a great advantage by acquiring important players in transfers, but they still cannot gain the current advantage of Psg. Psg has the best squad in the French league in every area. Marseille and Monaco, on the other hand, only have good players in certain areas. They will challenge for the top spot in the French league, but I do not think they can beat Psg.

Monaco improved last season, this season they are still showing performance that can be said to be on the right track. IMO, Adolt Hutter is a coach who can be said to have many strategies. It is proven, he still brings consistency last season and this season. Although they are still struggling to compete with PSG, Adolt Hutter is still able to bring Monaco to the top four of Ligue 1. In the Marseille camp, this season is a turning point for them from their slump last season. This season, Marseille can at least compete with its competitors even though it is difficult to become a team that occupies the top of the standings. What is certain is that Manaco and Marseille are handled by the right coach. Unfortunately, because they are not like PSG who have healthy finances, these two teams are only able to bring in players according to their budget. That is why, it is quite difficult to break the dominance of Paris Saint-Germain. But if these two teams remain consistent, at least until this season, in the coming season they can bring in players who are needed. For example, if for now the probability of Marseille is not too high to shift PSG.  However, in the next season, De Zerbi may be able to bring in quality players at affordable prices. I am sure De Zerbi knows the shortcomings of his team, especially pure strikers who are able to score goals consistently. As for Manaco, this team is quite strong but unfortunately not all of the players they have are ideal players in every line. So, if PSG still dominates the French League, it is something natural with the privileges the club has.
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PSG just need to lose two games for them to lose the top spot to Monaco. And it is possible for them to lose two games after all we saw what happened to Manchester City in the Premiership. Most people wouldn't have believed that the Cityzens would lose four games in a row. There are still plenty of games to play so we should not conclude that PSG will win the league. The January transfer opening will be a good chance for Marseille and Monaco to get new players who can increase their chances of fighting for the title.
The Ligue One is known to be one of the famous farmer's league in France, who else competing for the league title if not PSG? Paris Saint-Germain stats, 9W 2D 0L this season and good reputation set by the club. The unbeaten run this season and it's consider to be one of the best form of the club. The manager of PSG, Luis Enrique doing a good job from his end, atleast he's showing good evidence this season, aiming for the big winning and definitely thrashing his oppositions. PSG have rivals this season, they wouldn't be settling for any sign or weakness because staying strong becomes a routine for them and any slight setback coming from them, there's repercussions.
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Of course, Monaco and Marseille gained a great advantage by acquiring important players in transfers, but they still cannot gain the current advantage of Psg. Psg has the best squad in the French league in every area. Marseille and Monaco, on the other hand, only have good players in certain areas. They will challenge for the top spot in the French league, but I do not think they can beat Psg.
PSG just need to lose two games for them to lose the top spot to Monaco. And it is possible for them to lose two games after all we saw what happened to Manchester City in the Premiership. Most people wouldn't have believed that the Cityzens would lose four games in a row. There are still plenty of games to play so we should not conclude that PSG will win the league. The January transfer opening will be a good chance for Marseille and Monaco to get new players who can increase their chances of fighting for the title.

For me personally, PSG can still be defeated by any team in Ligue 1 but unfortunately, no team until now can and has the ability to compete strongly in the fight for the trophy. Therefore, although PSG is certainly still possible to be defeated in only a few matches, but other teams also get more or more frequent defeats. Thus, it is difficult for other teams to get  the Ligue 1 trophy and break the series of consecutive trophies that PSG has.

So, I think, if other teams already have good finances or have become rich teams, then it could be a better effort to compete with PSG in the fight for the trophy. Although indeed, I also think that to achieve success is not only having good finances. But, by having good performance and being able to be consistent can also be the best effort to get a trophy,  at least Bayer Leverkusen is one example of a team's success last season without defeat in the domestic league even though it is not a rich team.
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Ligue 1 clubs are not very rich. Even if the club owners are rich, no club in Ligue 1 is willing to spend a lot of money. The richest club in Ligue 1 is PSG. And the owner of PSG is willing to spend a lot of money to strengthen his squad. That is why we see every season that the strongest squad in Ligue 1 is PSG. And PSG dominates Ligue 1 every season. That is why Ligue 1 is not very competitive. To make Ligue 1 competitive, other club owners will have to prepare large funds to buy players and strengthen the squad. But the club owners of Ligue 1 are not willing to do that.
You are right, the PSG owners are spending huge sums of money to make sure they have standard squad above any other team in the League1, they are always willing to sign any available player that can help the team, and they also ready for any positive changes that will promote the team which is why the owners brought Messi, Ramos, Neymar, and other world class players in the past just to win the Champions League, but since the team failed, he let them leave and keep managing the young talented players in the squad.

PSG’s performance since the departure of Mbappe has reduced, but the team still maintain its stand in the League by staying above any other team in the League, even though they are finding it difficult to win some matches.

PSG will need to add more players to their squad next season because the League1 has taking a direction of becoming one of the toughest Leagues because most of the teams are putting effort to make the Peague well competitive; if other teams keep making such great effort, in the next two seasons, PSG will have to play very hard to win the League1.
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PSG is the richest club in Ligue 1 and that's why it has a standard that no other club can contest with them on winning the league for a long time now. Of course, if a rich investor buys the club like someone from Suadi, it is possible that after pumping funds into such club by buying world class players with great potentials, and a coach with high level of experience and success in his career, the newly bought club can transform into a very strong club that will be able to challenge PSG and win Ligue 1 from them.
PSG dose not only have dominance with wealth but they aswell have the best squad in the ligue 1, beating this is going to take beyond just buying new players and coach for a new team in ligue 1 and that is because if with the best squad and coach, they will need sometime to blend together a d grow aswell it's not going to be an instantaneous effect, what we see in PSG is almost a decade now so it's not something a team can just come up one day and get ahead of them without having to go through the process, they may win the league in their first rush but will not be able to sustain that form just immediately and that sustainability is what PSG really do prid in.
There is a prince who buys one of the teams in Ligue 1, this will be one way for other teams to be on the same level as Paris Saint Gemain. Because the very stable finances owned by Paris Saint Germain are one of the factors why they have almost no competitors that match them. If the finances of other teams are very good, then they can also do what Paris Saint Germain has done so far. We can see the difference in the composition of the players they have, like it or not we will see the difference. Well, this makes everything the same every season, where no team can be on the same level as Paris Saint Germain.
Because the economic power that Paris Saint-Germain has is not available in any other team. They have the power to bring in the players they want. They are still in a very good position despite having sent a player like Mbappé away from the team without earning a transfer fee. They managed to fill his void. Although they could not show the performance they wanted in the Champions League, they are still unbeatable in the league. Of course, the Manchester City example is appropriate. Manchester City has lost four of its last four matches. If a similar picture occurs for Paris Saint-Germain, we can also talk about the possibility of losing the league.
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Of course, Monaco and Marseille gained a great advantage by acquiring important players in transfers, but they still cannot gain the current advantage of Psg. Psg has the best squad in the French league in every area. Marseille and Monaco, on the other hand, only have good players in certain areas. They will challenge for the top spot in the French league, but I do not think they can beat Psg.
PSG just need to lose two games for them to lose the top spot to Monaco. And it is possible for them to lose two games after all we saw what happened to Manchester City in the Premiership. Most people wouldn't have believed that the Cityzens would lose four games in a row. There are still plenty of games to play so we should not conclude that PSG will win the league. The January transfer opening will be a good chance for Marseille and Monaco to get new players who can increase their chances of fighting for the title.
You are right. There is no such thing as a definite result in football. Although Paris Saint-Germain seems like a very good team on paper, they may lose the top spot after a few consecutive defeats. Monaco was already at the top until a few weeks ago. Why shouldn't this happen again? Yes, everyone thinks Paris Saint-Germain will be champions, but there was a year in which they lost the championship in the past. Moreover, Mbappé was in the squad at that time. That's how I think I remember it. Therefore, instead of saying that Paris Saint-Germain will definitely win, it would be more accurate to say that there will be a competition between these three teams.
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The points difference between two teams is 6 and PSG football team is at higher level and they are winning the matches by playing good performance and they have 29 points on points table and that team is at the top and Monaco football team is at second position and that team has 23 points on points table but we know that PSG team will win next match against Toulouse because they have good performance against that team and they always win against that team.

But do you remember the last meeting between the two teams between PSG and Toulouse?
PSG is currently still with Mbappe who is very reliable and PSG is also playing as the host. But in fact PSG was embarrassed by Toulouse.

I don't doubt PSG, it's just that the experience of the previous meeting could give Toulouse to be able to hold a draw or a surprise occurs when Toulouse can beat PSG again. And after seeing the odds given by the bookmakers, it seems like the worst result is just a draw.

After searching for a lot of information, it seems like I will withdraw all the words during the Monaco match. In fact, this week the only one who is easy to get 3 points is Monaco when facing Brest.
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Of course, Monaco and Marseille gained a great advantage by acquiring important players in transfers, but they still cannot gain the current advantage of Psg. Psg has the best squad in the French league in every area. Marseille and Monaco, on the other hand, only have good players in certain areas. They will challenge for the top spot in the French league, but I do not think they can beat Psg.
PSG just need to lose two games for them to lose the top spot to Monaco. And it is possible for them to lose two games after all we saw what happened to Manchester City in the Premiership. Most people wouldn't have believed that the Cityzens would lose four games in a row. There are still plenty of games to play so we should not conclude that PSG will win the league. The January transfer opening will be a good chance for Marseille and Monaco to get new players who can increase their chances of fighting for the title.
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Practically there is only one club that is consistent every season and that is the club that managed to defend the championship title.

There is no doubt about that, I understand everything, but that is really boring, because we all know that PSG is good, but the fact of seeing that the other teams are not good enough or how to give this team a hard time is something that motivates me a lot, of course I say this based on a lot of respect, I am not telling you that the others are bad, no, but there should be a greater incentive, because in the biggest competitions you can see the difference that Ligue 1 football is left behind , there is less level compared to the PL, Bundesliga, among others.

Boring is a certainty when seeing uncompetitive competition in a league, and especially when the league is only dominated by one team.
I am even more interested when I see the competition at the bottom of the standings, because there is a fiercer competition to maintain their position in order to stay in the top competition in Ligue 1. There will probably be many people who are the same as me when they see the competition in Ligue 1, because at the top it can almost be predicted even before the season starts.
It is very difficult to change it, because here it takes effort from other teams to match their level first.
The significant financial difference between PSG and other teams has made ligue 1 boring, because indeed PSG's dominance in Ligue 1 is very large and makes it difficult for other teams to be able to break it, a league that is not competitive with one team that dominates of course makes ligue 1 a farmer league so far, But actually,  there are some teams that have the potential to change this dynamic in the future, such as Monaco and Marseille after what we saw in the transfer market last summer, Monaco and Marseille seem be starting have strong finances,  because I see they has signed a lot of star players and improved their performance to be stronger this season.
Of course, Monaco and Marseille gained a great advantage by acquiring important players in transfers, but they still cannot gain the current advantage of Psg. Psg has the best squad in the French league in every area. Marseille and Monaco, on the other hand, only have good players in certain areas. They will challenge for the top spot in the French league, but I do not think they can beat Psg.
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This match may still be a long way off, around 1 week to come. But my question might be interesting for us to discuss.
Currently, the points difference between PSG and Monaco is a little further away and will PSG be able to give a points difference to Monaco in the upcoming match?
On the one hand, Monaco will not easily beat Brest because Monaco has lost consistency and if Monaco loses points in the upcoming match, I think PSG will give a 9 point difference and it will be very difficult to catch up on the points.
The points difference between two teams is 6 and PSG football team is at higher level and they are winning the matches by playing good performance and they have 29 points on points table and that team is at the top and Monaco football team is at second position and that team has 23 points on points table but we know that PSG team will win next match against Toulouse because they have good performance against that team and they always win against that team. That match will be one sided match.Monaco football team will play next match against Brest football team and there are many chances of win of that team because Monaco football team stats is good against that team and both top teams are competing well .
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Practically there is only one club that is consistent every season and that is the club that managed to defend the championship title.

There is no doubt about that, I understand everything, but that is really boring, because we all know that PSG is good, but the fact of seeing that the other teams are not good enough or how to give this team a hard time is something that motivates me a lot, of course I say this based on a lot of respect, I am not telling you that the others are bad, no, but there should be a greater incentive, because in the biggest competitions you can see the difference that Ligue 1 football is left behind , there is less level compared to the PL, Bundesliga, among others.

Boring is a certainty when seeing uncompetitive competition in a league, and especially when the league is only dominated by one team.
I am even more interested when I see the competition at the bottom of the standings, because there is a fiercer competition to maintain their position in order to stay in the top competition in Ligue 1. There will probably be many people who are the same as me when they see the competition in Ligue 1, because at the top it can almost be predicted even before the season starts.
It is very difficult to change it, because here it takes effort from other teams to match their level first.
The significant financial difference between PSG and other teams has made ligue 1 boring, because indeed PSG's dominance in Ligue 1 is very large and makes it difficult for other teams to be able to break it, a league that is not competitive with one team that dominates of course makes ligue 1 a farmer league so far, But actually,  there are some teams that have the potential to change this dynamic in the future, such as Monaco and Marseille after what we saw in the transfer market last summer, Monaco and Marseille seem be starting have strong finances,  because I see they has signed a lot of star players and improved their performance to be stronger this season.
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Practically there is only one club that is consistent every season and that is the club that managed to defend the championship title.

There is no doubt about that, I understand everything, but that is really boring, because we all know that PSG is good, but the fact of seeing that the other teams are not good enough or how to give this team a hard time is something that motivates me a lot, of course I say this based on a lot of respect, I am not telling you that the others are bad, no, but there should be a greater incentive, because in the biggest competitions you can see the difference that Ligue 1 football is left behind , there is less level compared to the PL, Bundesliga, among others.

Boring is a certainty when seeing uncompetitive competition in a league, and especially when the league is only dominated by one team.
I am even more interested when I see the competition at the bottom of the standings, because there is a fiercer competition to maintain their position in order to stay in the top competition in Ligue 1. There will probably be many people who are the same as me when they see the competition in Ligue 1, because at the top it can almost be predicted even before the season starts.
It is very difficult to change it, because here it takes effort from other teams to match their level first.
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Practically there is only one club that is consistent every season and that is the club that managed to defend the championship title.

There is no doubt about that, I understand everything, but that is really boring, because we all know that PSG is good, but the fact of seeing that the other teams are not good enough or how to give this team a hard time is something that motivates me a lot, of course I say this based on a lot of respect, I am not telling you that the others are bad, no, but there should be a greater incentive, because in the biggest competitions you can see the difference that Ligue 1 football is left behind , there is less level compared to the PL, Bundesliga, among others.
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In Ligue 1 only one team has sufficient finances, namely PSG, with a lot of funds making it easier for them to bring in star players, but not everyone likes playing at PSG. Competition in Ligue 1 is not as tight as other leagues such as the English League and La Liga, many fans believe that if PSG will win Ligue 1, they can defend their title.
This condition is only in the Dismetic League, not in the Champions League. This season's defeats and draws have an impact on the next steps in the UCL. PSG's game is also very competitive in the European arena.
PSG has not been able to play better outside Ligue 1 so it is not surprising that until now PSG has never won the UCL and has only won the Ligue 1 trophy. Meanwhile, other teams in Ligue 1 are also much worse because they cannot develop better in Ligue 1 and outside Ligue 1 so that often teams from France other than PSG are always considered weak when competing in the UCL or in the UEL. And this is of course based on their level of ability to buy players when the transfer market opens.
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