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Lyon will always be a good candidate but towards the second half of the season. I mean, Lyon is actually always a team that looks weak at the beginning of the season and looks very strong in the second half of the season and that always happens every season. If you remember, last season Lyon was almost at the bottom of the standings and managed to leave the relegation zone far away. And if this is related to competing for the title, even almost all teams in league 1 will look weak if we have to compare them with PSG because the finances of all teams in league 1 compared to PSG are very different. So this is the reason why Lyon and other teams will always have difficulty performing better.
Yeah you are right, they were at the very bottom of the league last season at the start of the season, they finished properly compared to that. Lyon was also a 7 in a row winners as well and they were what PSG is today back in the day. Having this type of financial issues after being that good proves that if you are mismanaged you are not going to get a good result at all.

There are tons of teams that make enough money but end up with problems and Lyon is another example of those. If you spend a lot on players that do not give back a good return then you are going to end up with a loss without a doubt. Lyon spent way too much money on players and didn't get anything good in return, which caused them to have this issue and I believe we are going to end up seeing them relegated if they keep this up. Of course they could still sell some players during January transfer window, and make some money and show that as a return to keep the team going, but that is not going to be enough.
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There is a prince who buys one of the teams in Ligue 1, this will be one way for other teams to be on the same level as Paris Saint Gemain. Because the very stable finances owned by Paris Saint Germain are one of the factors why they have almost no competitors that match them. If the finances of other teams are very good, then they can also do what Paris Saint Germain has done so far. We can see the difference in the composition of the players they have, like it or not we will see the difference. Well, this makes everything the same every season, where no team can be on the same level as Paris Saint Germain.
What you said makes sense because the financial level of a team is also included in the development factor of the team itself so that the team can buy expensive players who have good quality and that will make a team stronger than its rivals. PSG is a very close example that everyone can see every season so if there is another team that has bigger finances, of course it will be very possible for another team to match their strength with PSG in the future and by the way which team in Ligue 1 has been bought by the prince?
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PSG is the richest club in Ligue 1 and that's why it has a standard that no other club can contest with them on winning the league for a long time now. Of course, if a rich investor buys the club like someone from Suadi, it is possible that after pumping funds into such club by buying world class players with great potentials, and a coach with high level of experience and success in his career, the newly bought club can transform into a very strong club that will be able to challenge PSG and win Ligue 1 from them.
PSG dose not only have dominance with wealth but they aswell have the best squad in the ligue 1, beating this is going to take beyond just buying new players and coach for a new team in ligue 1 and that is because if with the best squad and coach, they will need sometime to blend together a d grow aswell it's not going to be an instantaneous effect, what we see in PSG is almost a decade now so it's not something a team can just come up one day and get ahead of them without having to go through the process, they may win the league in their first rush but will not be able to sustain that form just immediately and that sustainability is what PSG really do prid in.
There is a prince who buys one of the teams in Ligue 1, this will be one way for other teams to be on the same level as Paris Saint Gemain. Because the very stable finances owned by Paris Saint Germain are one of the factors why they have almost no competitors that match them. If the finances of other teams are very good, then they can also do what Paris Saint Germain has done so far. We can see the difference in the composition of the players they have, like it or not we will see the difference. Well, this makes everything the same every season, where no team can be on the same level as Paris Saint Germain.
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This match may still be a long way off, around 1 week to come. But my question might be interesting for us to discuss.
Currently, the points difference between PSG and Monaco is a little further away and will PSG be able to give a points difference to Monaco in the upcoming match?
On the one hand, Monaco will not easily beat Brest because Monaco has lost consistency and if Monaco loses points in the upcoming match, I think PSG will give a 9 point difference and it will be very difficult to catch up on the points.

I think both teams, PSG and Monaco can get winning points in their matches. Monaco will not have too much trouble getting a win from Brest, even though they are not playing consistently enough at the moment. PSG are undefeated and they always play well. Against Toulouse, they will be the favorites to win. I think it will not be difficult for both of them to get a win. and the situation will not change anything for both of them. unless PSG has to draw and Monaco manages to get a win. the gap in points between the two will be reduced.
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PSG is the richest club in Ligue 1 and that's why it has a standard that no other club can contest with them on winning the league for a long time now. Of course, if a rich investor buys the club like someone from Suadi, it is possible that after pumping funds into such club by buying world class players with great potentials, and a coach with high level of experience and success in his career, the newly bought club can transform into a very strong club that will be able to challenge PSG and win Ligue 1 from them.
PSG dose not only have dominance with wealth but they aswell have the best squad in the ligue 1, beating this is going to take beyond just buying new players and coach for a new team in ligue 1 and that is because if with the best squad and coach, they will need sometime to blend together a d grow aswell it's not going to be an instantaneous effect, what we see in PSG is almost a decade now so it's not something a team can just come up one day and get ahead of them without having to go through the process, they may win the league in their first rush but will not be able to sustain that form just immediately and that sustainability is what PSG really do prid in.
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This match may still be a long way off, around 1 week to come. But my question might be interesting for us to discuss.
Currently, the points difference between PSG and Monaco is a little further away and will PSG be able to give a points difference to Monaco in the upcoming match?
On the one hand, Monaco will not easily beat Brest because Monaco has lost consistency and if Monaco loses points in the upcoming match, I think PSG will give a 9 point difference and it will be very difficult to catch up on the points.
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PSG has a lot of money. At the same time, PSG's owner is also ready to spend a lot of money to strengthen his squad. This is why PSG has been able to build a strong squad. By spending a lot of money, PSG has been able to build a stable squad and is dominating Ligue 1 this season. Teams like Lille, Marseille and Monaco have also completely failed to compete with PSG for the title.
The continues willingness to always spend the money to get the team to the level he wants is some sort of commendable acton the Side of the owner of PSG as every season, he's willing to get they done, provided his chances at the trophy keeps going up, especially with the champions League, this actually is one reason the team has always remained one of the best and still the strongest amongst it's equal in the whole of the ligue 1 a d sometimes beyond, I believe soon they will get their champions League dream one day and all of this huge spending will eventually pay off as expected.
I agree PSG have a lot of money, but the way they spend it is unreasonable. They only dominate Ligue 1 when teams like Lille, Marseille, and Monaco are weak. At some point like the above teams have enough money to spend, I believe they will overthrow PSG.
Money is not an issue for PSG. But status is. A squad full of stars is struggling to reach the last 8 of the Champions League. This is becoming an all too familiar story. PSG is only strong in Ligue 1. When entering the continental arena, PSG is like an apprentice. When money can't buy class for PSG in the Champions League, the Champions League dream is still far away for them, if they keep spending money wastefully like that.
In other seasons PSG spent money unplanned and when they wanted they offered big money and brought that player to their club but they didn't get good results. Maybe after spending so much money, he realizes that in football, not only the star of his choice is taken into the team, but how to strengthen the coordination of each player plays a big role. 

After Luis Enrique took charge of PSG, he left several players out of the plan and sold the players who were out of his plan. Neymar was also out of Luis Enrique's plans which led to Neymar being sold as well. 
In other words, it is clear from his actions that the player who will contribute well for the team will have another player in the team, no matter how big the star is, if he cannot contribute well for the team, then he is not needed in the team. We
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What is clear is that Monaco does not have any problems in their squad, all players are perfectly intact without any core players injured or absent so it is clear that this is not just an advantage on paper for Monaco to be able to beat Brest who is middle team at the moment with their performance which can be considered quite bad.
Moreover, the only thing that can make Brest win or share points is luck alone, they don't have enough performance be able to beat Monaco.
Even though they don’t have much of a chance against Monaco, I think we still need to think about the possibility of making a surprise. They won three out of four games in the Champions League and drew the other game. Brest, who have not yet lost in four games, certainly have the potential to make a surprise against Monaco. I think we all know how open the French league is to surprises. But as I said, this is only a surprise possibility. To be honest, I think there is a 60% chance that Monaco will win this game.
For the UCL results in 4 match both have the same completion with 3 win and 1 draw but playing in the UCL and domestic league is very different, there are team that perform well in the UCL but bad in the domestic league and vice versa because these two competitions are different in terms of competition and opponents that must be faced.
We see at the end of this week whether Brest can provide surprise and get lucky to beat Monaco or vice versa where Brest must accept defeat and make them get 3 consecutive defeats in Ligue 1.
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PSG has a lot of money. At the same time, PSG's owner is also ready to spend a lot of money to strengthen his squad. This is why PSG has been able to build a strong squad. By spending a lot of money, PSG has been able to build a stable squad and is dominating Ligue 1 this season. Teams like Lille, Marseille and Monaco have also completely failed to compete with PSG for the title.
The continues willingness to always spend the money to get the team to the level he wants is some sort of commendable acton the Side of the owner of PSG as every season, he's willing to get they done, provided his chances at the trophy keeps going up, especially with the champions League, this actually is one reason the team has always remained one of the best and still the strongest amongst it's equal in the whole of the ligue 1 a d sometimes beyond, I believe soon they will get their champions League dream one day and all of this huge spending will eventually pay off as expected.

Winning the Ligue 1 title is not a difficult task for PSG. There is no other strong squad like PSG in Ligue 1. PSG spends a lot of money to build their squad. Other clubs in Ligue 1 are not interested in spending so much money. So winning the Ligue 1 title is not a difficult task for PSG. However, PSG management spent a lot of money to win the Champions League title. They created a strong squad. Even then, PSG could not achieve the expected results in the Champions League.

With the help of Luis Enrique, PSG's overall performance is now as good as it can be. If Luis Enrique is able to develop the players of this squad with experience, then it is expected that PSG will be able to perform well in the Champions League in the future.
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PSG has a lot of money. At the same time, PSG's owner is also ready to spend a lot of money to strengthen his squad. This is why PSG has been able to build a strong squad. By spending a lot of money, PSG has been able to build a stable squad and is dominating Ligue 1 this season. Teams like Lille, Marseille and Monaco have also completely failed to compete with PSG for the title.
The continues willingness to always spend the money to get the team to the level he wants is some sort of commendable acton the Side of the owner of PSG as every season, he's willing to get they done, provided his chances at the trophy keeps going up, especially with the champions League, this actually is one reason the team has always remained one of the best and still the strongest amongst it's equal in the whole of the ligue 1 a d sometimes beyond, I believe soon they will get their champions League dream one day and all of this huge spending will eventually pay off as expected.
I agree PSG have a lot of money, but the way they spend it is unreasonable. They only dominate Ligue 1 when teams like Lille, Marseille, and Monaco are weak. At some point like the above teams have enough money to spend, I believe they will overthrow PSG.
Money is not an issue for PSG. But status is. A squad full of stars is struggling to reach the last 8 of the Champions League. This is becoming an all too familiar story. PSG is only strong in Ligue 1. When entering the continental arena, PSG is like an apprentice. When money can't buy class for PSG in the Champions League, the Champions League dream is still far away for them, if they keep spending money wastefully like that.
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PSG has a lot of money. At the same time, PSG's owner is also ready to spend a lot of money to strengthen his squad. This is why PSG has been able to build a strong squad. By spending a lot of money, PSG has been able to build a stable squad and is dominating Ligue 1 this season. Teams like Lille, Marseille and Monaco have also completely failed to compete with PSG for the title.
The continues willingness to always spend the money to get the team to the level he wants is some sort of commendable acton the Side of the owner of PSG as every season, he's willing to get they done, provided his chances at the trophy keeps going up, especially with the champions League, this actually is one reason the team has always remained one of the best and still the strongest amongst it's equal in the whole of the ligue 1 a d sometimes beyond, I believe soon they will get their champions League dream one day and all of this huge spending will eventually pay off as expected.
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Lyon was not a weak or poor team years ago, they were one of the best teams in the French League and they were having good performances in the games we saw from this team. I even remember Lyon was usually racing for the title every year. But now they are far from their good form and they are not having a good performance at all.
I think Lyon's main problem came from the management because even using new palyers and coaches couldn't help them at all.


Lyon will always be a good candidate but towards the second half of the season. I mean, Lyon is actually always a team that looks weak at the beginning of the season and looks very strong in the second half of the season and that always happens every season. If you remember, last season Lyon was almost at the bottom of the standings and managed to leave the relegation zone far away. And if this is related to competing for the title, even almost all teams in league 1 will look weak if we have to compare them with PSG because the finances of all teams in league 1 compared to PSG are very different. So this is the reason why Lyon and other teams will always have difficulty performing better.
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Another bad news from LYON, and also quite bad news for this top 5 Ligue 1 club. And, this club finally entered Ligue 2.

"Lyon Heavily Sanctioned Amid Severe Debt Crisis"


Actually this has been quite a while, but this time everything is very clear. While LYON is fighting to be in 5th position and higher to enter the UCL. But all this is over, yes it's over for Lyon in Ligue 1.

Source: Lyon Heavily Sanctioned Amid Severe Debt Crisis
Official: Olympique Lyonnais have been handed a provisional Ligue 2 relegation.

Sometimes I find it hard to understand why some of these smaller clubs that are found guilty in some of these charges are easily punished without any form of deal but when it comes to the bigger boys and money spenders it will take forever before you see them being persecuted, it is very bad. Lyon that have been struggling to be in their best for long are now found in this kind of situation and if this is going to happen I don't think the Ligue 1 will have much big clubs that we can say are going to battle PSG for the title, even if we have Marseille, Monaco, Lille and the others ones who are trying to step up, Lyon should be at the top 4 big clubs in Ligue 1, now that they're going to be off the picture I don't know how long it will last, hope this won't stand.

Lyon was not a weak or poor team years ago, they were one of the best teams in the French League and they were having good performances in the games we saw from this team. I even remember Lyon was usually racing for the title every year. But now they are far from their good form and they are not having a good performance at all.
I think Lyon's main problem came from the management because even using new palyers and coaches couldn't help them at all.

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The English Premier League is much better than the French Ligue 1. You can't compare the intensity, the pressure and rivalry in the EPL to that of Ligue 1. Playing in the EPL is not easy as you must be able to stay well above others if you want to win the league l which makes it such a difficult task for any team in the EPL. We have seen for example where Leicester City came from nowhere to win the league. Compared to the french Ligue 1 where the league is largely dominated by PSG, the Premier League is on a different level irrespective of Manchester City’s recent dominance.
While I do agree that it "feels" that way, could we point out what's the difference in stats? I mean look at how City has dominated it in the past ten years, we have seen how PSG did the same thing as well. There isn't really that much difference when it comes to comparing the two leagues and the winners. I know that when we are watching the leagues then we can "see" a difference, or at least feel something, and yes in both cases others did win a title here and there, but usually it's one same thing dominating the whole thing.

Last four years it has been City and that's just how much they won in a row, they won so many, and while PSG never won UCL, we have seen City end up with a treble title in a single season so we can say that City is definitely the better team but they are both dealing with same domination at the league. So, I can totally see why people could say premier league is better, but at the same time we are seeing the same results on both league.
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PSG is the richest club in Ligue 1 and that's why it has a standard that no other club can contest with them on winning the league for a long time now. Of course, if a rich investor buys the club like someone from Suadi, it is possible that after pumping funds into such club by buying world class players with great potentials, and a coach with high level of experience and success in his career, the newly bought club can transform into a very strong club that will be able to challenge PSG and win Ligue 1 from them.
Lens was the closest to unseat PSG during the 2022-2023 season. But they failed to remain consistent which made PSG to win the league with just one point. Since then the Parisians have had a smooth ride in the French. When Mbappe left, I was expecting to see a decline in their performance but that has not happened.

Money alone cannot transform a club because other things must be put in place. There should be a sound management team that will scout for good players and ensure that everything is working perfectly. A coach that will align with the club's ideology is also important. An example is Newcastle which is backed by Saudi based Public Investment Fund, yet they have not made it to top four position since the takeover.
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PSG is the richest club in Ligue 1 and that's why it has a standard that no other club can contest with them on winning the league for a long time now. Of course, if a rich investor buys the club like someone from Suadi, it is possible that after pumping funds into such club by buying world class players with great potentials, and a coach with high level of experience and success in his career, the newly bought club can transform into a very strong club that will be able to challenge PSG and win Ligue 1 from them.

The current football trend is more interested in other leagues, especially the Premier League, that's why big investors rarely invest in one of the clubs participating in this competition. I haven't studied much about Lique 1 regarding the mechanisms and regulations in this competition for its investors, but it can be concluded that the only rich club in this competition that has healthy finances is Paris Saint-Germain. If I'm not mistaken, PSG is also supported by Qatar, correct me if the information I get is not true. So, it would be very natural if PSG always dominates this competition. Moreover, the competing teams are constrained to compete with PSG based on player purchases. which in the end, there seems to be a spasm in this League and most people say the farmer's League. although true, I don't really agree with that label on any League that is always dominated by one team that always wins. Well, the question is apart from the points I said above, why don't many people look at the French League teams to become investments for big investors. if the logic is the same, in the end, teams that want to compete in this competition try to target talented players, whether it's an academy or young potential players to become classy players and be able to compete with PSG in the future. the problem is, it's not as easy as what I said. but what is certain is that PSG will not always dominate this league, there will be times when they slip and other teams break PSG's dominance so far, even though it might only be for one season.
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Monaco is another team that has improved, therefore PSG need to be very careful this season because Monaco can be a tough title contenders with them.

You have a point there. Monaco have really made a significant progress for themselves. However for now I doubt their being a title contender until the last moments of the season.  Sad

The gap with PSG is 6 points now. Monaco lost so many points on the recent weeks. They have consistency problems. With this look they can't prevent this gap from getting bigger every week. PSG are really unstoppable in the Ligue 1. Still 0 loss after playing 11 games. They are like a scoring machine you know. Monaco also had better improve their productivity. They are really good in defense otherwise.  Smiley

It seems that no team can seriously threaten PSG in Ligue 1, although indeed, some teams below PSG may seem to have good results with good improvements recently. But still, they will not really succeed in being able to overtake PSG at the top of the standings. After all, with the good results of the teams below PSG, in reality these teams are only trying to maintain their position in the top four. At least, when they manage to finish to get a Champions League ticket, basically that is good for them. Because at least, no team is really able to consistently maintain their best position in the standings, so changes in position for them will always happen except for PSG who still have high dominance and have not collapsed.
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PSG is the richest club in Ligue 1 and that's why it has a standard that no other club can contest with them on winning the league for a long time now. Of course, if a rich investor buys the club like someone from Suadi, it is possible that after pumping funds into such club by buying world class players with great potentials, and a coach with high level of experience and success in his career, the newly bought club can transform into a very strong club that will be able to challenge PSG and win Ligue 1 from them.

Yes but I have always wondered how much fun it is to buy a club in a medium strong league and then pump billions and billions into that club and win that league forever. Is that really fun? Maybe it is fun for a season or two or so, but I would prefer to have tough competition in a league and then buy superstar players and try to win it. If you can literally buy goals with money and no other club can compete on eye level, then what is the point in competing at all? I don't know, maybe billionaires think differently, but if I were in the position to pick, I would rather try to bring a Premier League club to the top.
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Monaco is another team that has improved, therefore PSG need to be very careful this season because Monaco can be a tough title contenders with them.

You have a point there. Monaco have really made a significant progress for themselves. However for now I doubt their being a title contender until the last moments of the season.  Sad

The gap with PSG is 6 points now. Monaco lost so many points on the recent weeks. They have consistency problems. With this look they can't prevent this gap from getting bigger every week. PSG are really unstoppable in the Ligue 1. Still 0 loss after playing 11 games. They are like a scoring machine you know. Monaco also had better improve their productivity. They are really good in defense otherwise.  Smiley
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Not entirely sure how this benefits Lyon as a whole. They are doing this because they have a lot of debt, but the way to get out of debt is to get better results, and they are getting better results now. So if they finish in top five, and go to Europe next season, that would be a good way to improve their finances.

I can totally understand blocking their transfers, like make it forced that they can only spend as much as they sell, so if they want to buy a player for ten million then first they need to sell player(s) for ten million to make that move, so limit their spending that way. But to relegate them? How is that helping them in any way? It doesn't feel like it would help them pay their debts at all, and doesn't sound like a smart move.
This is exactly one of the issues that so many football clubs are going through in Europe, especially those that have not been bought over by billionaires owners and those that are going through some sort of financial instabilities but relegating a football club due to financial constraints is some what out of sort, rather there should be some other measures that should be taken to help the club get back on feet financially or better still auctioning the club to potential investors could be another possible solution rather than relegating the club, because if they get relegated they may not be able to pay off their debts and it still wouldn't change the situation for them.
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