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Quote from: Doell on November 02, 2023, 03:31:47 PM

Rennes was able to beat PSG in the previous season, but this season Rennes is completely different. They experienced a decline in performance, while the Nice club experienced an increase. But if Rennes succeeds in winning the match against Nice, I personally will be happy because then the Rennes team might be able to recover. Even, if my bet lose it doesn't matter for me. Also, there is a chance for PSG will quickly to the top in standings because on Matchday 11 they might be able to get full points against Montpellier.

PSG are very confusing this season sometimes they carelessly lose matches they're supposed to easily win without any stress but currently they been performing better, they almost lost a match against Brest but Kylian Mbappé was there to save the day and so far he's present in the team till the season ends PSG would try as much as possible to win the league and I believe Mbappé would win the golden boot before he leaves the team by next summer.

However PSG have a tough competition this season which is Nice they've turned out to be one of the best in the league and are currently the at the top based on the good performance, what suprises me is that they're not very strong on their attacking line but they got a solid defense and midfielder that's really helped them get this far and I believe they'll win Rennes is their next match.

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Quote from: Phoenix Anka on November 02, 2023, 12:48:00 PM

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Even though Nice seems like the favorite on paper, Rennes is a very high quality team. Their quality could make them superior against Nice. Rennes' performance is favorable for every score. They can also beat PSG, they can defeat any team on their day, including Nice.

Rennes was able to beat PSG in the previous season, but this season Rennes is completely different. They experienced a decline in performance, while the Nice club experienced an increase. But if Rennes succeeds in winning the match against Nice, I personally will be happy because then the Rennes team might be able to recover. Even, if my bet lose it doesn't matter for me. Also, there is a chance for PSG will quickly to the top in standings because on Matchday 11 they might be able to get full points against Montpellier.

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Since Messi and Neymar left PSG, they haven't bought a new superstar forwarder, right? I rarely watch football after Covid but this recent transfer of Messi and Neymar makes me think how did PSG changed them? Was PSG playing well when it had Neymar, Mbappe and Messi? Because these trio is so amazing on individual level, I believe they would be amazing together too and how can you rate their play in PSG? Did their transfer affected PSG negatively or isn't there any significant negative effect?

To be honest, I feel like this Ballon d'Or was symbolic and last win for Messi, his career is going down and this beautiful fairy tale of him is going to end soon, this was probably the happy ending. Next time, Mbappe and Halland will have to fight for it. I post in this thread because I want to appreciate your amazing French Forward Mbappe and I think he will be the next legend, this man is built for being forward!

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Quote from: Weawant on November 02, 2023, 02:22:02 PM

In as much as it has been their biggest dream to win the UCL, I don't think this season is that right time for them. PSG is yet to be formidable against some big teams who are also present in the UCL, no doubts they have got good quality players currently but not the form

PSG may have to focus more on building their team this season and maybe by next season they may have that team that have got both the form and dept to stand against any team in the UCL and be sure to probably win the trophy, this will include the coach improving on his tactics and his relationship with his squad aswell, then the players may also have to further build that mentality of winning the UCL against any team they meet in the UCL.

PSG is the strongest team in France. Success was expected even when they had a great team, and international success is still expected from them. This success is also determined by UCL. Since so much money was spent, the lack of success in return depressed both the fans and the management. However, with this year, the pressure on the team has decreased a little. Expectations are falling. As expectations decrease, the stress on players decreases. Perhaps this will be the main key that will bring success to PSG.

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In as much as it has been their biggest dream to win the UCL, I don't think this season is that right time for them. PSG is yet to be formidable against some big teams who are also present in the UCL, no doubts they have got good quality players currently but not the form

PSG may have to focus more on building their team this season and maybe by next season they may have that team that have got both the form and dept to stand against any team in the UCL and be sure to probably win the trophy, this will include the coach improving on his tactics and his relationship with his squad aswell, then the players may also have to further build that mentality of winning the UCL against any team they meet in the UCL.

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Quote from: mv1986 on November 02, 2023, 01:08:01 PM

I think that our perception that PSG is wasting money could also be totally wrong because they might have an agenda in their heads that is different from what we think it is. No doubt, they wanted to win the Champions League all the time, but people like Nasser Al-Khelaifi also pursue other objectives with their strategy to diversify money into sport clubs. When Messi was signed two years ago, I think the rumor was that the cost for that transfer was covered by merchandise sales and other revenue generated because of Messi going to PSG. But I think that these new spheres we are getting used to, like the salaries and transfer fees these days, can merely be recovered through merchandise sales. Maybe they are wasting some money as per the balance sheet, but the effects these activities have on their entire portfolio may not be easily discernible.

No doubt now many peoples are understanding how things are going and what are the main source of incomes with recently I was checking few details and mostly clubs ere under huge deficits and having other financial issues as well but still things are going on good way because they are having the richest owners like Nasser Al-Khelaifi which is having money to waste for the dreams as well without these luxurious and branded owners we have nothing special in soccer.

Media rights are also having good source for the clubs, but sell of merchandise is never been able to do things which could be affordable for them but their own sources which are they using are also enough. In this season we have no enough chances for them to win but if they keep faith in this coach and able to stay at improved strategy then surely we can expect better results from them in coming season because first time we have better things and good performance which are creating good chances for the future.

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Quote from: Phoenix Anka on November 02, 2023, 12:48:00 PM

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Rennes is currently too focused on the Europa league, their performance in Ligue 1 is really unstable, yes it is very likely that Nice will be able to win against Rennes. Moreover, the Nice team continues to maintain their good trend in Ligue 1, they will also play at home, so yeah they really has an advantage in that match. It is quite worthy to bet on Nice with Odds @ 2.12, although there is still a possibility that the match will end in a draw result, but Nice on paper is much better than Rennes. So I wouldn't doubt to bet on Nice in this match.

Even though Nice seems like the favorite on paper, Rennes is a very high quality team. Their quality could make them superior against Nice. Rennes' performance is favorable for every score. They can also beat PSG, they can defeat any team on their day, including Nice.

I have to be agreed with you about few things, but now we have to check Rennes performance is also on decline with in last three games they are having 2 loses and one draw and in this season they are having now win in front of them in away games with three draws and one lost mean Nice can do better with most chances they will have 3 points because if they are fail then surely they have to fall down which is not good after having impressive run in last 10 games.

But in case of draw or lost they can drop to third, but I am having full faith in them for the staying at the top for few more weeks because their start of season and consistency is good, and they deserve this spot against teams like Monaco and PSG which were average in early games of this season but now after improvement and having change strategy bringing them to better spot.

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Bookmakers are continuing to show Lyon quite favourite against smaller teams on paper. I don't expect them to show Lyon as the weaker side against Metz this week for example of course. But it is the truth now that Lyon can't be trusted to bet on this season. I'm even worried about the serious possibility of relegation.

Because We have left 9 weeks behind but Lyon still have only 3 points. Sad

This is a fact that is hard to accept for me. They need to take some action on this topic immediately.

I don't think this is related to their manager. Because before Fabio Grosso they were still horrible. They need to strengthen the squad first of all. If this also doesn't change things much then it means there is a much bigger change needed for the team.

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Quote from: poodle63 on November 02, 2023, 12:08:11 PM

PSG consistently wasting so much money in filling its ambition to win UCL but this is the last chance of PSG to play in UCL with the help of mbappe. Mbappe may not play in there again starting from the upcoming year.
The PSG chairmain is very ambitious in bringing UCL trophy to the its base. Billions wasted for nothing and probably the PSG chairman is preparing so much money for winter transfer season. I saw some players of PSG targeted by other club.

This may also decreasing the power of PSG at this moment. It's likely the chance to win UCL is very small for PSG. It was competing in the toughest group but it doesn't mean PSG can beat some perfect club like real madrid and bayern.

I think that our perception that PSG is wasting money could also be totally wrong because they might have an agenda in their heads that is different from what we think it is. No doubt, they wanted to win the Champions League all the time, but people like Nasser Al-Khelaifi also pursue other objectives with their strategy to diversify money into sport clubs. When Messi was signed two years ago, I think the rumor was that the cost for that transfer was covered by merchandise sales and other revenue generated because of Messi going to PSG. But I think that these new spheres we are getting used to, like the salaries and transfer fees these days, can merely be recovered through merchandise sales. Maybe they are wasting some money as per the balance sheet, but the effects these activities have on their entire portfolio may not be easily discernible.

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Quote from: Doell on November 02, 2023, 08:26:17 AM

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Rennes so far has not been in good form and unlike last season they can always be in the top 4. Currently Rennes is in 8th position with 12 points from 10 matches and what is quite surprising is that in the last 5 matches they have only won once. This is not business as usual and last week they also drew again against Strasbourg, even though it was a home game for them.

On the other hand, Rennes is the only team that has achieved the most draws so far with 6 draws and that is certainly quite detrimental because they will only collect 6 points out of 18 points if they win them all. The next match will also not be easy for Rennes because it will be against the current top team, namely Nice, and of course if they don't want to lose then it is likely that Rennes will try to hold Nice back to a draw in the away match.

Nice who will be the home team, will, of course, be predicted to be able to overcome Rennes to get 3 points and continue to lead the standings, and Rennes, who in 5 matches can only get 5 points, seems to be having difficulty getting up and performing well like last season because of the draw they have got more this season than last season, meaning they have lost a lot of points and it looks like they will lose points again in the match against Nice.
Interestingly, many of the meetings between the two teams ended in a draw and both teams managed to score goals. Rennes of course, tries to put pressure on Nice, but beating them is not easy because their opponent has not been defeated at home this season, and with Nice getting odds @ 2.12, it is quite interesting to try considering that the home team's chances of winning are quite large if we compare the current situation of the two teams.

Rennes is currently too focused on the Europa league, their performance in Ligue 1 is really unstable, yes it is very likely that Nice will be able to win against Rennes. Moreover, the Nice team continues to maintain their good trend in Ligue 1, they will also play at home, so yeah they really has an advantage in that match. It is quite worthy to bet on Nice with Odds @ 2.12, although there is still a possibility that the match will end in a draw result, but Nice on paper is much better than Rennes. So I wouldn't doubt to bet on Nice in this match.

Even though Nice seems like the favorite on paper, Rennes is a very high quality team. Their quality could make them superior against Nice. Rennes' performance is favorable for every score. They can also beat PSG, they can defeat any team on their day, including Nice.

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Quote from: puloweh555 on November 02, 2023, 09:22:02 AM

The PSG president always had the goal of winning a Champions League trophy, they tried a lot, spent a lot of money, made a lot of changes, but they never managed to win the Champions League trophy. When Neymar was in great form and Mbappe was a young rising star then PSG played in the UEFA Champions League final with the great combination of Neymar and Mbappe but unfortunately they were defeated by Bayern Munich and there ended their dream of winning the Champions League trophy. First they went to the Champions League final against Bayan Munich and that was their highest Champions League achievement then many players they recruited in their club but they didn't get the desired results either through any player or any manager. They are still trying to win just one Champions League trophy.

If only one position of the team is strengthened and a club is thinking of winning the Champions Trophy then that team is living in the state of fools. The Champions League is a competition where the top teams from various top clubs in Europe participate, so a team must give equal importance to everything from defense to forward to perform well against those top teams. PSG fielded the best attacking line-up in the world but as bad as it sounds, they fielded one of the world's worst midfield and defenses at the time due to which the strikers scored goals but the team performance was not good. Bayan Munich Real Madrid Manchester City PSG must focus on these teams. If PSG focuses on each of these teams' positions well, they will understand how important a skilled player is in each position.

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Quote from: Davian144 on November 02, 2023, 10:08:34 AM

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I'm not sure if Nice can save their place in the first place of the French league table because they are very close to PSG and there is only one point gap between Nice and PSG. Because PSG had a bad start during this season and even people were thinking Enrique was going to get fired from PSG. But time after time they got improved and now there is a high chance for PSG to get in the first place of the French league.

And this will become even more clear this week after the two teams have their next matches in Ligue 1, where PSG will face Montpellier and Nice will face Rennes. And I also think that Nice will be quite pressured to maintain their top position at this time because PSG is getting closer and it is very possible to overtake Nice if PSG can continue to win and Nice itself must also continue to try to win so that it can continue to be at the top of the standings.

Although Rennes is facing a bad situation in the last 3 matches they played, but that does not mean Nice will be able to win easily when dealing with Rennes. Rennes will definitely be motivated to give the first defeat to the only club that has not tasted defeat until this week and it will be special if they manage to beat Nice, because Nice will be the host in this match.
Nice's problem is still the same, they are not very productive in scoring goals, and that might be used by Rennes to be able to steal points in this match.

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Quote from: Litzki1990 on November 02, 2023, 05:09:54 AM

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I can see why people would want otherwise, but PSG definitely plays magnificent. Seeing their last five or six games, I can say that they have done wonderful, yes that terrible Newcastle loss shocked the world a bit, not because they couldn't lose, they could lose, but got dominated with big margins so it looked a little different and difficult for them.

I think it should be something that doesn't really look all that great, shouldn't really change much, and guessing that it would probably not be all that much of a big deal for them to overcome just one loss. League is wide open for them, they are way too good and I am sensing that they will keep being this good for a long time, doesn't seem like they have any competition.

In fact, the truth about PSG is they are in the good form and they are good enough players to win the French League easily but I think the main goal of the owner of this team is not the French League but it's all about winning in the ChmapniosLeageu which is much harder for Enriquet to achieve this goal with the current situation they have compared the other teams.

The PSG president always had the goal of winning a Champions League trophy, they tried a lot, spent a lot of money, made a lot of changes, but they never managed to win the Champions League trophy. When Neymar was in great form and Mbappe was a young rising star then PSG played in the UEFA Champions League final with the great combination of Neymar and Mbappe but unfortunately they were defeated by Bayern Munich and there ended their dream of winning the Champions League trophy. First they went to the Champions League final against Bayan Munich and that was their highest Champions League achievement then many players they recruited in their club but they didn't get the desired results either through any player or any manager. They are still trying to win just one Champions League trophy.
This season too, their efforts may fail because it is impossible to win the Champions League trophy with the team they have assembled now.

PSG consistently wasting so much money in filling its ambition to win UCL but this is the last chance of PSG to play in UCL with the help of mbappe. Mbappe may not play in there again starting from the upcoming year.
The PSG chairmain is very ambitious in bringing UCL trophy to the its base. Billions wasted for nothing and probably the PSG chairman is preparing so much money for winter transfer season. I saw some players of PSG targeted by other club.

This may also decreasing the power of PSG at this moment. It's likely the chance to win UCL is very small for PSG. It was competing in the toughest group but it doesn't mean PSG can beat some perfect club like real madrid and bayern.

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Quote from: Davian144 on November 02, 2023, 10:08:34 AM

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I'm not sure if Nice can save their place in the first place of the French league table because they are very close to PSG and there is only one point gap between Nice and PSG. Because PSG had a bad start during this season and even people were thinking Enrique was going to get fired from PSG. But time after time they got improved and now there is a high chance for PSG to get in the first place of the French league.

And this will become even more clear this week after the two teams have their next matches in Ligue 1, where PSG will face Montpellier and Nice will face Rennes. And I also think that Nice will be quite pressured to maintain their top position at this time because PSG is getting closer and it is very possible to overtake Nice if PSG can continue to win and Nice itself must also continue to try to win so that it can continue to be at the top of the standings.

But for these matches, the match between PSG against Montpellier and the match between Nice against Rennes, I sure PSG and Nice still have a chance to win in those matches. Because yes, PSG and Nice will also play at home and besides that, the opponents they face like Montpellier and Rennes, at least at this moment are not in their best form . Therefore, because they are playing at home and also still have better quality than the opposing team, then it looks like Nice and PSG will still be able to stay in their current position for first and second place in the Ligue 1 standings. But indeed, as time goes by it is clear that PSG will be able to return to the top of the Ligue 1 standings this season.

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Quote from: Davian144 on November 02, 2023, 10:08:34 AM

And this will become even more clear this week after the two teams have their next matches in Ligue 1, where PSG will face Montpellier and Nice will face Rennes. And I also think that Nice will be quite pressured to maintain their top position at this time because PSG is getting closer and it is very possible to overtake Nice if PSG can continue to win and Nice itself must also continue to try to win so that it can continue to be at the top of the standings.

The only way Nice will be able to maintain their top spot on the table is of they continue on a winning streak because PSG will most likely win their fixture this week so by the end of this week we will determine if Nice will still be regarded as been at the top of the table again.

Rennes is an average team and may give Nice a little trouble but then I expect Nice to win because they will be playing from home which is actually in their advantage. PSG aswell will be playing from home too so if both teams happen to win their games, they will still maintain their positions but with higher points, as both teams are ahead of each other with just a point difference, PSG will have 24 points if they win which they are most likely to do because they are at home and Nice will be having 25 points if they win too.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on November 02, 2023, 08:58:33 AM

I'm not sure if Nice can save their place in the first place of the French league table because they are very close to PSG and there is only one point gap between Nice and PSG. Because PSG had a bad start during this season and even people were thinking Enrique was going to get fired from PSG. But time after time they got improved and now there is a high chance for PSG to get in the first place of the French league.

PSG's detrimental beginning to the season undoubtedly hampered them this season, as Luis Enrique was on the edge of losing his job as head coach of Les Parisiens. I'm extremely pleased they're getting back to form, gradually winning games and emphasizing the importance of bouncing back. It's only a matter of time before Nice drops to second place in Ligue One. I'm astonished they're leading because they finished 9th on the table the previous season. I have no worries that PSG will be back in their place this season; they started poorly this season, but there is indication that the team is going to get better.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on November 02, 2023, 08:58:33 AM

I'm not sure if Nice can save their place in the first place of the French league table because they are very close to PSG and there is only one point gap between Nice and PSG. Because PSG had a bad start during this season and even people were thinking Enrique was going to get fired from PSG. But time after time they got improved and now there is a high chance for PSG to get in the first place of the French league.

And this will become even more clear this week after the two teams have their next matches in Ligue 1, where PSG will face Montpellier and Nice will face Rennes. And I also think that Nice will be quite pressured to maintain their top position at this time because PSG is getting closer and it is very possible to overtake Nice if PSG can continue to win and Nice itself must also continue to try to win so that it can continue to be at the top of the standings.

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Quote from: puloweh555 on November 02, 2023, 09:22:02 AM

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This season too, their efforts may fail because it is impossible to win the Champions League trophy with the team they have assembled now.

Yes that's right. This season they will fail again in the UCL because they have to adapt to coach Enrique, it was difficult to win the UCL league in his first season. He needed 2 or 3 years before PSG could become a team with a winning mentality. BTW, PSG will still win League 1 this season.

PSG is in a transition period with their new coach, especially since the team's condition is not yet completely stable after several important players left. Enrique must be patient if he wants to win the UCL trophy with PSG, he needs to form a team with a number of players who can understand the tactics he has been using. Even though PSG already has a number of top star players, they are not ready to compete in the UCL, let alone talk about winning the UCL Trophy. I agree that PSG will win Ligue 1 again, but for the UCL they have to be patient for a few more years.

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Quote from: Litzki1990 on November 02, 2023, 05:09:54 AM

The PSG president always had the goal of winning a Champions League trophy, they tried a lot, spent a lot of money, made a lot of changes, but they never managed to win the Champions League trophy. When Neymar was in great form and Mbappe was a young rising star then PSG played in the UEFA Champions League final with the great combination of Neymar and Mbappe but unfortunately they were defeated by Bayern Munich and there ended their dream of winning the Champions League trophy. First they went to the Champions League final against Bayan Munich and that was their highest Champions League achievement then many players they recruited in their club but they didn't get the desired results either through any player or any manager. They are still trying to win just one Champions League trophy.

Of course PSG had big ambitions to win the UCL trophy and they were even willing to bring in classy players at that time. However, it's a shame that they still failed, from that failure we can conclude that star players actually don't guarantee that they can win the UCL trophy. What the team needs to be able to achieve their UCL is that the players must be humble and united because this can have an impact on the field. And that's what PSG didn't have at that time because there were too many star players with egos.

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This season too, their efforts may fail because it is impossible to win the Champions League trophy with the team they have assembled now.

Yes that's right. This season they will fail again in the UCL because they have to adapt to coach Enrique, it was difficult to win the UCL league in his first season. He needed 2 or 3 years before PSG could become a team with a winning mentality. BTW, PSG will still win League 1 this season.

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Quote from: Strongkored on November 02, 2023, 05:34:17 AM

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Rennes so far has not been in good form and unlike last season they can always be in the top 4. Currently Rennes is in 8th position with 12 points from 10 matches and what is quite surprising is that in the last 5 matches they have only won once. This is not business as usual and last week they also drew again against Strasbourg, even though it was a home game for them.

On the other hand, Rennes is the only team that has achieved the most draws so far with 6 draws and that is certainly quite detrimental because they will only collect 6 points out of 18 points if they win them all. The next match will also not be easy for Rennes because it will be against the current top team, namely Nice, and of course if they don't want to lose then it is likely that Rennes will try to hold Nice back to a draw in the away match.

Nice who will be the home team, will, of course, be predicted to be able to overcome Rennes to get 3 points and continue to lead the standings, and Rennes, who in 5 matches can only get 5 points, seems to be having difficulty getting up and performing well like last season because of the draw they have got more this season than last season, meaning they have lost a lot of points and it looks like they will lose points again in the match against Nice.
Interestingly, many of the meetings between the two teams ended in a draw and both teams managed to score goals. Rennes of course, tries to put pressure on Nice, but beating them is not easy because their opponent has not been defeated at home this season, and with Nice getting odds @ 2.12, it is quite interesting to try considering that the home team's chances of winning are quite large if we compare the current situation of the two teams.

I'm not sure if Nice can save their place in the first place of the French league table because they are very close to PSG and there is only one point gap between Nice and PSG. Because PSG had a bad start during this season and even people were thinking Enrique was going to get fired from PSG. But time after time they got improved and now there is a high chance for PSG to get in the first place of the French league.

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