Topic: Fuck! I may have cancer - page 3. (Read 3510 times)

Sorry, if this has already been discussed but have you ever smoked cigarettes or used chewing tobacco for any length of time?  Do you have a family history of cancer, oral or otherwise?  How long has the mass been on your tongue and has it always been painful?

If you're going the DIY route, perhaps it could be a good idea to look into bee-based smell detectors. Bees are much easier and cheaper to train than dogs and got quite a nose.



edit: though i dunno where you would get the reference smells to train them on...

Hey dude, I have a friend that survived cancer a tumor in their stomach or something, he had this radiation surgery or something.

Good Luck!

I think the brush technique with biopsies is not a standalone one. The other two either include cell aspiration with a needle (pulling the cells with a needle from various places to get a good sample) and a microscopic round cutter that removes a plug of cells. All those newer methods heal right up. My stepfather always gets murdered when they get biopsies from him though so that makes me wonder.

The area can also be tested for certain kinds of bacteria which thrive on cancer cells. I have the theory that if someone's nose and eyes where trained enough, a cancer patient could spit in a cup and let the bacteria stay overnight and then just by looking at and smelling (yucky I know) you could test for cancer. Kind of like trained service dogs can smell a seizure coming in or certain kinds of cancer.

I've only smoked for a couple of years, I'm not a smoker, most likely it's not cancer. The pain is bad though and the general consensus is if something like that doesn't heal within 14 days you should get it checked out. By the color of it, it is most likely not a cancer. As I'm looking into it, it seems less likely than it did in the start. I'm also finding out that different foods have different effects on the pain.

If I eat nearly any spicy food the pain subsides for a couple of hours.

The most painful food is nutella. It's not easy to tell but I think I'm getting better. The lump seems smaller I've had it longer than I can recall. While this is very unlikely to be a cancer this has been all in all a positive experience. Now I now that oral cancer is a very common one. Every single hour a person dies because of it. And what to do about it. If the pain subsides before the 26th, and I hope it will I'll see my dentist on February or March. Other than that trained professionals are pretty good at guessing which is which but I don't have that kind of knowledge.

One surprising detail that I've found is that HPV 17, could be the primary cause of that cancer so oral sex may increase your chances of getting oral cancer 6-fold. I have to say I'm guilty of it but I don't think she had any disease, so it's probably not that. Smoking is also a big factor. Something else that may be of interest is that throat cells (cells in the esophagus) are very good at killing cancer via programmed cell death (autophagy). There are evolutionary traits that help certain parts of humans be more resistant to cancer either by the autophagy just mentioned or if we think about our skin as having a shield for harmful radiation (although this is fighting a cause and not a cancer) and the inside of the mouth seems to be an ideal spot for the body to put on a fight.

Then again there is this bit of text (which I picked since my problem is at the very side of the tongue which is more like tissue from the esophagus rather then the one found on the tongue) :

Cancers of the esophagogastric region are highly malignant tumors with five-year survival rates of less than 16%.1 Research has shown that 88% of patients, selected for curative resection for esophagogastric cancer, already have disseminated tumor cells,2 that can remain dormant for variable periods, before emerging as aggressive, drug-resistant metastases.3 Improved systemic therapeutic options are therefore required to effectively eliminate primary and recurrent esophageal cancer.

http://myweb.sabanciuniv.edu/dgozuacik/selected-publications/files/2009/01/2004-oncogene-review3.pdf (pretty old document on autophagy (2004) I love autophagy, like our cells have a protocol for cannibalizing themselves.

Would the cancer cells be on the surface though?

Squamous cell carcinoma is the most likely diagnosis esp. if you are a smoker. Have you had your CT scan and biopsy yet? Excision and radiation can be curative. Best wishes!

I am in Plymouth, UK - please PM if you would like a chat-buddy or, if you're nearby, if there is anything practical I can do.

FUCK cancer!

Damn, I sincerely hope that it is really something less serious. Best of luck man.

I'm definitely eating healthier. I wonder If I can test myself using a microscope by just brushing out a few cells. As I said in a previous post, due to the color of the thing it's probably not cancerous. It's most likely a bad canker sore. I've never personally had one of those. The pain is very annoying still though. It switching from burning to stabbing sometimes.

Something to note, I eat hot stuff. Right after I ate some spiced up food, there was less pain for a while which was surprising.

Some people have it worse than I, one of my favorite artists on YouTube, Dan Bull has audiovisual problems (hearing cracks constantly and eye pain) and as he noted he is an audiovisual artist. It would totally suck to be a professional taster and then get this thing.

That's the video he made about it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFRGPe04kjQ

Personally I always like to self diagnose and treat. When my big toe broke, I fixed it myself, same when I broke the smallest toe too. When I broke my nose, I went to the hospital. I'm originally from Greece where there is universal healthcare. Here in the US, a doctor checked me and the hospital charged us over 1,000 dollars which made no sense to me. They didn't even have to do anything to my nose, it healed on its own.

If I read a couple of books, I'm sure I can get a small biopsy or a couple of cells and test them under the microscope. So I'll know even before I get to a doctor (if the pain stays past December 26 that is)




Above is what I'd be looking for.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pre-ann-curecoin-development-continues-330685

we need to think of a way to use bitcoin to help either find a cure for cancer or at least help educate people on how to find it early so it causes less death. Something like that, just thinking.

It is that way...but no one wants (or is brave enough) to see things/world from a point of view that has not been shown to us by the pre-existing society. It requires challenging your belief system that everyone around you has lived on for decades/centuries.

Once, you start looking at the world from not-so-brainwashed perspective, *SURPRISE* you'll see sleeping humans everywhere that work like machines day/night and do as they said to do.

If it would be that way, then cancer would be cured by now.

Although I'm a keto fan, and lost 2x10kg when I tried it for myself. Best diet there is.

Open a betting 'game' on outcome of your test results, with the maximum bet of 0.001BTC with a rule that 15% of the winnings will go towards your medications if you do have cancer, or research if you do not.

Exactly, I just recalled that I read somewhere that cancer cells live on WHITE REFINED SUGAR.
If you remove it from your diet and switch to something like stevia you will starve the cancer cells to death.
Additionally doing the cleanses from my previous post.

Noprobs you ARE healthy as others said Dont worry too much and yeah tell me them afterwards. ( when you will know you are healthy)

Eat some anti cancer stuff like garlic (but don't eat too much), it is healthy food anyway

look into an extremely carb-restrictive diet (keto) there is some evidence that cancer cells need carbs to thrive. Also, I would definitely go for some of the concentrated cannabis oils, they are worth trying.