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Topic: Fucking Ponzi's and the idiots that buy into them + List of Shills - page 10. (Read 15364 times)

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Because just like your advertising service, it is a scam.
Just because some people get paid early on doesn't mean that the ponzi is "legitimate".
It just means that it's building up trust until a few people pay enough, then they'll get "hacked", and
they will "try to refund" but nobody is ever getting their shit back.

A scammer promoting scams. What a surprise.
No one claims that a Ponzi is Legitimate a fool only will do that, but everyone playing in Ponzi's must understand that they are just hit and run schemes, and early birds always catches the worms Tongue  

Not all are hit and run schemes... With the ponzis type games that use a round system like most of the ones here it allows to create a new slate each time so there is no more reason for one of these games to disappear than a unregulated bitcoin casino or dice site... unless btcriverboat keeps reporting all these games.. well there is your reason for why they disappear Smiley

of course if you are using a site like btc-arbs or leancy etc.. where they fabricate some story to make you seem like you are investing and it is NOT split into rounds nor transparent... those will obviously collapse at some point.
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Because just like your advertising service, it is a scam.
Just because some people get paid early on doesn't mean that the ponzi is "legitimate".
It just means that it's building up trust until a few people pay enough, then they'll get "hacked", and
they will "try to refund" but nobody is ever getting their shit back.

A scammer promoting scams. What a surprise.
No one claims that a Ponzi is Legitimate a fool only will do that, but everyone playing in Ponzi's must understand that they are just hit and run schemes, and early birds always catches the worms Tongue 
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Spixel - Insists its ok to run ponzi scams because their just scam games.

Please add me to the shill list as these games are per definition not ponzi schemes. There's a difference between a secreteve ponzi investment scheme and an open ponzi game. Sure some of these games are scams in the way that the organizer claims "guaranteed payouts", but other than that ponzi games are legit. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme

Sidenote: It's been hilarious to watch people on this forum call each other idiots for depositing, all while greedily depositing themselves. Priceless entertainment.
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I can't understand why you tell that bitdoubler is a scam, i sent 3 times 0.5 btc and i receive 3 times 1btc.
Because just like your advertising service, it is a scam.
Just because some people get paid early on doesn't mean that the ponzi is "legitimate".
It just means that it's building up trust until a few people pay enough, then they'll get "hacked", and
they will "try to refund" but nobody is ever getting their shit back.

A scammer promoting scams. What a surprise.
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Mems definition of a shill:

Someone who tells others about their experience with a website, in this case a ponzis.

Seriously mem: how much did you lose in scams LOL

looooool  Grin
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Mems definition of a shill:

Someone who tells others about their experience with a website, in this case a ponzis.

Seriously mem: how much did you lose in scams LOL
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just saw this bitdoubler from vantix he said that he got his investment there 2x but im still a little bit skeptical about it thanks for this thread Cheesy

Yes, I have some speculation about vantix...... but just speculation.

Glad it helped you avoid them, good on you for not being an idiot.
Mem I'm serious, really in total i've send 1.5 and receive back three transactions of 1btc, so my net profit is 1.5, after this i don't send and i will never send any other btc! But for now, and for me, btcdoubler pay.
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I can't understand why you tell that bitdoubler is a scam, i sent 3 times 0.5 btc and i receive 3 times 1btc.
legendary
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finally there are no more ponzi  Wink

5 on the front page Wink
But a huge improvement.

Good stuff mem.

I thought we may have had to go with Micons drastic idea Smiley
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finally there are no more ponzi  Wink
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if you want something do something!!!
maybe these bitdoubler is only try to get him by returning his investment i dunno i will not try it anyway
mem
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Herp Derp PTY LTD
just saw this bitdoubler from vantix he said that he got his investment there 2x but im still a little bit skeptical about it thanks for this thread Cheesy

Yes, I have some speculation about vantix...... but just speculation.

Glad it helped you avoid them, good on you for not being an idiot.

LOL never tried fonzi it just a little bit funny when this owner advertize their new site then you will see that most of the depositor is this newbies with 4 or 8 post and 2 activity Cheesy seems like their minions haha

Thats what we like to call sock puppets, Im just going to come out and say it.

Id guess vanitix is running several of these scams using newbie accounts as  the PR account and his older account  to boost credability.
"Hey look guyz the obvious scam paid me out !!!! OMG U GUYZ INVESTORZ NOW".

If not, sorry Vanitix but stop being such a fucking idiot.
sr. member
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if you want something do something!!!
just saw this bitdoubler from vantix he said that he got his investment there 2x but im still a little bit skeptical about it thanks for this thread Cheesy

Yes, I have some speculation about vantix...... but just speculation.

Glad it helped you avoid them, good on you for not being an idiot.

LOL never tried fonzi it just a little bit funny when this owner advertize their new site then you will see that most of the depositor is this newbies with 4 or 8 post and 2 activity Cheesy seems like their minions haha
mem
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Herp Derp PTY LTD
just saw this bitdoubler from vantix he said that he got his investment there 2x but im still a little bit skeptical about it thanks for this thread Cheesy

Yes, I have some speculation about vantix...... but just speculation.

Glad it helped you avoid them, good on you for not being an idiot.
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
if you want something do something!!!
just saw this bitdoubler from vantix he said that he got his investment there 2x but im still a little bit skeptical about it thanks for this thread Cheesy
mem
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Herp Derp PTY LTD
Erm, the sites are labeled as a ponzi scheme, they aren't lying. All it is is another bitcoin gambling game, just like satoshi dice, you may win, or lose, but the person USUALY does not run away with the money

Did you just defeat your own argument before giving me the chance to do so ?

Anyway lets break it down, a gambling game has an average payout of around 95% or higher but individual payouts can range from x0 to x36 (using roulette as my example). A Ponzi's max payout is usually 80% (individual payouts being 1-7%) then they pack up and run, there is NEVER a payout greater than 100% just operators pretending to be players and their shills.

A Ponzi is a scam.

Again since Im dealing with idiots I'll give you an example.

Doing surgery without a license is illegal. 
The reason that we dont allow people to operate with a disclaimer of "derp Im actually just a butcher" is because as a society we need to look after the weaker links in our chain.

In case your not grasping my point, you strike me as the type of person who would see his local butcher/ vet to get his appendix removed and then advise others to do the same.
I actually agree with you that this sub-forum would be better without the ponzis. However, I am going to point out that you are wrong right here. Ponzi schemes payout more than 100% all the time. In fact, that is why they are so effective and alluring. The early investors pull out their money + profits and say "Look everyone! I made a huge return in barely any time!!" Then more people start investing and the whole thing falls apart once it gets too big because either A) The scheme operator decides he has made enough and runs off. B) Too many people cash out at one time. or C) Someone finds a way to prove that it is a ponzi scheme. .... Some of the "ponzi games" side step C by saying from the get-go that they are a ponzi, then they find ways to make A or B seem unlikely or impossible. The reality is of course that any ponzi scheme/game is going to end with some people getting burned.

Im not indulging this discussion further.
Ponzi's are run by con artists and they do a great disservice to legitimate casinos, there never has and never will be an honest Ponzi.

Ive bolded your statement that I consider dangerously stupid and misleading.
Ponzi's NEVER payout over 100% this is by nature how a ponzi operates. Individual shills make claims of payouts. I covered this very clearly in the topic post how ponzi's work and you have contributed nothing new expect spreading confusion.

Please be warned I dont have the patience to debate the finer details of how:

  • an obvious scam is not a scam
  • It is a scam but not really
  • Is just a game, newbies should read more carefully
  • Hey some people claim to make money, this shit must be legit

continuing to do so will get you listed as a shill and get you on my ignore list.
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Erm, the sites are labeled as a ponzi scheme, they aren't lying. All it is is another bitcoin gambling game, just like satoshi dice, you may win, or lose, but the person USUALY does not run away with the money

Did you just defeat your own argument before giving me the chance to do so ?

Anyway lets break it down, a gambling game has an average payout of around 95% or higher but individual payouts can range from x0 to x36 (using roulette as my example). A Ponzi's max payout is usually 80% (individual payouts being 1-7%) then they pack up and run, there is NEVER a payout greater than 100% just operators pretending to be players and their shills.

A Ponzi is a scam.

Again since Im dealing with idiots I'll give you an example.

Doing surgery without a license is illegal. 
The reason that we dont allow people to operate with a disclaimer of "derp Im actually just a butcher" is because as a society we need to look after the weaker links in our chain.

In case your not grasping my point, you strike me as the type of person who would see his local butcher/ vet to get his appendix removed and then advise others to do the same.
I actually agree with you that this sub-forum would be better without the ponzis. However, I am going to point out that you are wrong right here. Ponzi schemes payout more than 100% all the time. In fact, that is why they are so effective and alluring. The early investors pull out their money + profits and say "Look everyone! I made a huge return in barely any time!!" Then more people start investing and the whole thing falls apart once it gets too big because either A) The scheme operator decides he has made enough and runs off. B) Too many people cash out at one time. or C) Someone finds a way to prove that it is a ponzi scheme. .... Some of the "ponzi games" side step C by saying from the get-go that they are a ponzi, then they find ways to make A or B seem unlikely or impossible. The reality is of course that any ponzi scheme/game is going to end with some people getting burned.
mem
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Herp Derp PTY LTD
come on shills, why not shill for me Tongue

bumpy bump - adding more scammers & shills.
mem
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Herp Derp PTY LTD
2 shills bumping my warning, thanks shills.
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Get ready for PrimeDice Sig Campaign!
You fucking idiots you took down ponzicoin.co. Fuck. you.
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