Topic: Fucking Ponzi's and the idiots that buy into them + List of Shills - page 14. (Read 15389 times)
March 12, 2014, 04:32:19 AM
Well then how about making threats to the site ADmin, if they dont get rid or move them we can actully report the site for hosting illegal games. They can lose there Hosting and they will have no choice to listen to us. What do ya think?
March 12, 2014, 12:43:23 AM
I don't think that the ponzi games here actually fit into the law book definition of ponzi.
They are a ponzi by definition, not to mention that they self-describe themselves as ponzis. Clearly you need to revise your definition of a ponzi.
Ponzi
- a swindle in which a quick return, made up of money from new investors, on an initial investment lures the victim into much bigger risks.
March 12, 2014, 12:21:18 AM
Do you honestly think the ponzi threads posted here are comparable to nigerian email scams and indentity thieves or are you just grasping at straws to try make a point?
Yes. Ponzi scams are a felony crime. Knowingly participating in them with the intention of making a profit is also a felony. When they involve real money, people who turn a net profit on Ponzis often have their asssets seized to pay off those who took a loss. They cause incalculable economic damage, and that is why they are illegal.
They are as bad, or worse, than Nigerian email scams. Anyone who participates in one knowingly is a criminal himself, whether or not they've gotten around to enforcing the law yet.
I don't think that the ponzi games here actually fit into the law book definition of ponzi. Most games show all transactions and it's part of the game that new payments can stop at any time (and it's also obviously possible for the person that runs the ponzi to deposit themsevels in the beginning.) Non of this is hidden.
March 12, 2014, 12:06:46 AM
Besides being completely illegal in some countries and extremely deceptive, ponzis have overtaken the gambling section.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=494662.80
I posted a topic in Meta about this to hopefully create a sub-board for these types of pyramid scams.
Maybe if enough people post in the thread, it will create pressure to create another board.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=494662.80
I posted a topic in Meta about this to hopefully create a sub-board for these types of pyramid scams.
Maybe if enough people post in the thread, it will create pressure to create another board.
The admins have already ruled that ponzi's with their own website are perfectly fine for this section. I don't know how to convince them otherwise, as several of us have made very convincing arguments about how they violate the spirit if not the letter of the "gambling" forum.
March 11, 2014, 11:59:47 PM
Besides being completely illegal in some countries and extremely deceptive, ponzis have overtaken the gambling section.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=494662.80
I posted a topic in Meta about this to hopefully create a sub-board for these types of pyramid scams.
Maybe if enough people post in the thread, it will create pressure to create another board.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=494662.80
I posted a topic in Meta about this to hopefully create a sub-board for these types of pyramid scams.
Maybe if enough people post in the thread, it will create pressure to create another board.
March 11, 2014, 07:47:05 PM
PS: Friends dont let friends order from BFL.
Please make this a parody March 11, 2014, 06:09:26 PM
There's always a chance that you get paid with profit if you enter a ponzi scheme, no doubts. However, if you do, you're contributing to building the trust of the ponzi owner who ALWAYS will end up scamming someone. You have a responsibility to make sure you don't
write "I got paid, keep investing guys" in the thread after you get paid, because that will lead to people getting scammed.
write "I got paid, keep investing guys" in the thread after you get paid, because that will lead to people getting scammed.
March 11, 2014, 05:18:32 PM
Guys, we're having a discussion with a global mod over in "meta" if you'd like to contribute regarding the ponzi epidemic.
yea where case im about to report bitcointalk.org for hosting these kind of games
March 11, 2014, 05:16:12 PM
Guys, we're having a discussion with a global mod over in "meta" if you'd like to contribute regarding the ponzi epidemic.
March 11, 2014, 05:15:13 PM
bump fuck ponzis
March 11, 2014, 03:38:25 PM
I enjoyed a description of the 3 types of people who get in and out early
March 11, 2014, 01:21:25 PM
Every ponzi is a scam i would say there is no real thing as ponzi and yeas this is a scam as well .
The only difference is some pay at the start to gain the trust of the community and when they have enough coins to live a year happy they just fades away in the winds while others just be honest in what they are meant to do and never pays off.
The only difference is some pay at the start to gain the trust of the community and when they have enough coins to live a year happy they just fades away in the winds while others just be honest in what they are meant to do and never pays off.
March 11, 2014, 01:08:31 PM
Do you honestly think the ponzi threads posted here are comparable to nigerian email scams and indentity thieves or are you just grasping at straws to try make a point?
Yes. Ponzi scams are a felony crime. Knowingly participating in them with the intention of making a profit is also a felony. When they involve real money, people who turn a net profit on Ponzis often have their asssets seized to pay off those who took a loss. They cause incalculable economic damage, and that is why they are illegal.
They are as bad, or worse, than Nigerian email scams. Anyone who participates in one knowingly is a criminal himself, whether or not they've gotten around to enforcing the law yet.
March 11, 2014, 12:45:52 PM
People can think for themselves, stop thinking you're smarter.
What? If people can think for themselves, then it's entirely possible that the OP is smarter then them.
You know what I mean.
My opinion is OP is someone who's very into gambling, is annoyed he missed out on some of these ponzi's so has a personal vendetta against them and those who take part, simply because of his own choice (hence all the name calling)
March 11, 2014, 12:45:15 PM
I'm sick of this shit too.
No reason to have these clogging up the gambling section.
No reason to have these clogging up the gambling section.
March 11, 2014, 10:35:16 AM
I'm pretty sure that no one is buying into these Ponzis. The person running them seems to have a stable of other forum accounts that he uses to claim they are investing and then getting paid back.
I think if you do the traces on the transactions, you'll see the money is just going in circles. I did this on one of them just to satisfy my curiosity.
If you have the ability to do HS math, you should be able to figure out that ponzis don't work.
I think if you do the traces on the transactions, you'll see the money is just going in circles. I did this on one of them just to satisfy my curiosity.
If you have the ability to do HS math, you should be able to figure out that ponzis don't work.
standard low post count "It's awesome!" mixed with tons of copy-pasta type ponzi sites. Like a few operators are laughing right now.
mem, I'm with you in this fight. they have simply been allowed to take over. spirit of marketplace/gambling, destroyed in a scammy ball of bitcoin dust. I feel it too my man.
The mods are our only hope. Maybe that or a revolt / peaceful non-violent forum demonstration of some sort. maybe make 20 threads that all say "PONZI'S GET OUT OF MARKETPLACE / GAMBLING THEY ARE SCAMS"
and bump all 20 each time a ponzi thread is at the top. Then we make the mods, at the very least, make a /ponzi subcat off marketplace and let the kids try and not be left with the flaming ball of shit when the music stops to their hearts content in this cute little model libertarian community where even blatent scams have a subcat and I totally agree with that because, well, some of these idiot humans running around love to send coins to ponzi's over and over again. And they should have the right to get fucked out of their bitcoins. but not in a forum of legitimate btc gambling sites.
The mods are our only hope. Maybe that or a revolt / peaceful non-violent forum demonstration of some sort. maybe make 20 threads that all say "PONZI'S GET OUT OF MARKETPLACE / GAMBLING THEY ARE SCAMS"
and bump all 20 each time a ponzi thread is at the top. Then we make the mods, at the very least, make a /ponzi subcat off marketplace and let the kids try and not be left with the flaming ball of shit when the music stops to their hearts content in this cute little model libertarian community where even blatent scams have a subcat and I totally agree with that because, well, some of these idiot humans running around love to send coins to ponzi's over and over again. And they should have the right to get fucked out of their bitcoins. but not in a forum of legitimate btc gambling sites.
I've been using the "report to moderator" button on every new one I see. I figure if everyone does that, they will have to take some sort of notice.
we need to act as a forum. If we all go nuts on the report to moderator every ponzi every post we can make a change. But as is, one or 4 of us doing it has clearly been ignored
March 11, 2014, 09:12:55 AM
I'm pretty sure that no one is buying into these Ponzis. The person running them seems to have a stable of other forum accounts that he uses to claim they are investing and then getting paid back.
I think if you do the traces on the transactions, you'll see the money is just going in circles. I did this on one of them just to satisfy my curiosity.
If you have the ability to do HS math, you should be able to figure out that ponzis don't work.
I think if you do the traces on the transactions, you'll see the money is just going in circles. I did this on one of them just to satisfy my curiosity.
If you have the ability to do HS math, you should be able to figure out that ponzis don't work.
even more of a reason to put these ponzis in a separate thread or ban them all together.
March 11, 2014, 09:03:01 AM
I'm pretty sure that no one is buying into these Ponzis. The person running them seems to have a stable of other forum accounts that he uses to claim they are investing and then getting paid back.
I think if you do the traces on the transactions, you'll see the money is just going in circles. I did this on one of them just to satisfy my curiosity.
If you have the ability to do HS math, you should be able to figure out that ponzis don't work.
I think if you do the traces on the transactions, you'll see the money is just going in circles. I did this on one of them just to satisfy my curiosity.
If you have the ability to do HS math, you should be able to figure out that ponzis don't work.
March 11, 2014, 08:10:35 AM
mem, I'm with you in this fight. they have simply been allowed to take over. spirit of marketplace/gambling, destroyed in a scammy ball of bitcoin dust. I feel it too my man.
The mods are our only hope. Maybe that or a revolt / peaceful non-violent forum demonstration of some sort. maybe make 20 threads that all say "PONZI'S GET OUT OF MARKETPLACE / GAMBLING THEY ARE SCAMS"
The mods are our only hope. Maybe that or a revolt / peaceful non-violent forum demonstration of some sort. maybe make 20 threads that all say "PONZI'S GET OUT OF MARKETPLACE / GAMBLING THEY ARE SCAMS"
If only, if only...
I'll just leave this here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5625165
March 11, 2014, 07:52:44 AM
People can think for themselves, stop thinking you're smarter.
What? If people can think for themselves, then it's entirely possible that the OP is smarter then them.
You know what I mean.
My opinion is OP is someone who's very into gambling, is annoyed he missed out on some of these ponzi's so has a personal vendetta against them and those who take part, simply because of his own choice (hence all the name calling)
I actually don't know what you mean, because you said something that doesn't make much sense.
Frankly, I think your opinion on OP's motives are incorrect. Do you support Nigerian email scams? Identity thieves? Why is it ok to take advantage of people in one way but not in others?
Do you honestly think the ponzi threads posted here are comparable to nigerian email scams and indentity thieves or are you just grasping at straws to try make a point? With these ponzi's you are told out straight its a ponzi. You know (and I did when I put money in one) that there's a chance I won't get it back. You're gambling on whether or not other people decide to invest after you, its not a scam. Even all the transactions are visible to help you make up your mind if the ponzi is slowing down etc.
I think to be considered as gambling, there should at least be a way to calculate the "house edge" or your % to win. With Ponzi's, you have no way of calculating that. It only depends on when the downline dries up. I think this is an issue that needs to be considered.. With casino games/dice games, at least I know what i'm up against.
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