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Topic: Fucking Ponzi's and the idiots that buy into them + List of Shills - page 6. (Read 15389 times)

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I previously gave credit to btcmania for understanding ponzi's but questioned his support of them given the fact he understood how they operate.
Anyway, it turns out (imho) btcmania is nothing more than a very clever troll & a shill.

If a troll is defined as someone who has a difference of opinion that you are incapable of understanding, then I am a troll. Colour me such.

Witness the refusal to argue logically, be amazed at the stupendous argument put forward and be extremely wary of trusting such an individual.

Thats enough of my time wasted on scam artists tonight, back to the list !!!!

What is there to argue? Ponzi's are labeled as Ponzi's, people know what they are and how they work. You scream and shout 'scam' like a child throwing a tantrum in the grocery store because his mommy won't buy him a chocolate bar. You add people to a Santa naughty list in a fit of rage, accuse them of being troll yet you want to argue LOGICALLY?

Incidentally, I don't need people to trust me because I'm not proposing, offering or selling anything. People need not trust me, they can read what I have posted about ponzis and HYIP's and draw their own conclusions. I'm not going to make a Santa list for everyone who disagrees with me or flood their threads with 'SCAM'. I think people are generally more intelligent than you are.

Am I not trustworthy because I allow people to decide for themselves what to invest in? Evidentally in your small mind. Fortunately I think people are intelligent enough to base decisions on the facts. And I provide them the facts.

Read my post. I don't condone Ponzi's, I don't make HYIP's out to be glamorous. If anything I am very anti-HYIP/anti-Ponzi but in some cases I don't see an issue - and that is when all the players are aware they are playing into a scam. It's a logical consequence in life, or 'gambling' as the forum is called. So please go back to your lists, message floods, trying to take down sites, labeling people, blah blah blah and continue to feel you're being LOGICAL about it while I am not.  Grin

Please keep me on the list, don't ever take me off. The public awareness is > any negativity you hope to achieve.

(edit: added to ignore list)
mem
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Herp Derp PTY LTD
I previously gave credit to btcmania for understanding ponzi's but questioned his support of them given the fact he understood how they operate.
Anyway, it turns out (imho) btcmania is nothing more than a very clever troll & a shill.


1) is it a gambing game - NO
2) is it a ponzi - YES
3) do ponzi's keep operating until they run out of funds / new users - YES.

Let me know if I missed anything critical there.

#1 is a yes, based on the answer to #3.

I don't see the issue, everyone wins as long as the game is in play. It's not like anyone is going to say, "Oh I never knew it was a Ponzi."

Let people play in peace. Do you also picket and protest outside casinos? Do you stand on street corners with signs warning of drivers speeding?

What a waste of time.

Witness the refusal to argue logically, be amazed at the stupendous argument put forward and be extremely wary of trusting such an individual.

Thats enough of my time wasted on scam artists tonight, back to the list !!!!
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Activity: 70
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I'll save passion for the ponzi operators, obvious shills will get listed, suckers will be just listed as "ponzi investor".

You mean that people making 1.5 btc off of 1 btc are going to get listed in a post on a website forum? Shit son, do that up. They will surely stop making free money because their 'pseudonym' is mentioned on an internet forum.

Oh no! It seems that I'm already on the naughty list.

"btcmania - Defends ponzi's and their operators. Not ok with myself as it allows newbies to be led astray."

And yet if you dug a little deeper, you'd see that I also have a pinned post at the top of the Gambling forum that educates people on how to identify risky sites and how to avoid being ripped off. No risk, no reward. As long as people know what they're getting into, I see no problem. I agree the newbies need to be warned - which my post does (and has over 1200 views I may add).

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/so-you-want-to-invest-in-a-hyipponzi-program-520086


Lists are for little children who throw tantrums. Please add me to more.
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mem
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Herp Derp PTY LTD
gee my list of scammers & shills is growing quickly.

Quick note, dont bother private messaging me with threats of "libel lawsuits" like some big sook did on the weekend it just my truth-erection harder.
Do send me a summons so I can report you to the financial fraud dept of your country.

Defending Ponzi's gets you listed as "dangerous fucking idiot / shill", dont like it ? then get some common sense into you.

Stay true to yourself that is fine but can you please make the difference between defending ponzis and having an opinion that is between ponzi owners should be han.ged and ponzis are great?

I think ponzis are bad because most are sc.ammy and because it is gambling but a ponzi that advertise itself as such looks like a gambling game to me and I think I am not the only one who thinks that, Theymos said the same thing, do you think he is a ponzi shil.l?

message received !

I'll save passion for the ponzi operators, obvious shills will get listed, suckers will be just listed as "ponzi investor".
legendary
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gee my list of scammers & shills is growing quickly.

Quick note, dont bother private messaging me with threats of "libel lawsuits" like some big sook did on the weekend it just my truth-erection harder.
Do send me a summons so I can report you to the financial fraud dept of your country.

Defending Ponzi's gets you listed as "dangerous fucking idiot / shill", dont like it ? then get some common sense into you.

Stay true to yourself that is fine but can you please make the difference between defending ponzis and having an opinion that is between ponzi owners should be han.ged and ponzis are great?

I think ponzis are bad because most are sc.ammy and because it is gambling but a ponzi that advertise itself as such looks like a gambling game to me and I think I am not the only one who thinks that, Theymos said the same thing, do you think he is a ponzi shil.l?
mem
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Herp Derp PTY LTD
gee my list of scammers & shills is growing quickly.

Quick note, dont bother private messaging me with threats of "libel lawsuits" like some big sook did on the weekend it just my truth-erection harder.
Do send me a summons so I can report you to the financial fraud dept of your country.

Defending Ponzi's gets you listed as "dangerous fucking idiot / shill", dont like it ? then get some common sense into you.
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Activity: 224
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I play some of these sites and the ones that have honest owners are great they include miniponzicoin and http://ponzimatic.net/  pays fast and several times over and have won much more on each of those. bitdoubler is another good site out there.
Yeah, bitdoubler is another good site if you wanna lose all your money. Don't you realize everybody around here is smart enough, if not to see through ponzis, see through when they're advertised by the owner on this other newbie account? Get out.
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I play some of these sites and the ones that have honest owners are great they include miniponzicoin and http://ponzimatic.net/  pays fast and several times over and have won much more on each of those. bitdoubler is another good site out there.

Of course they do, guy with 11 posts on an account created 2 weeks ago.

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I play some of these sites and the ones that have honest owners are great they include miniponzicoin and http://ponzimatic.net/  pays fast and several times over and have won much more on each of those. bitdoubler is another good site out there.
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\o/

edit:

and wtf @

"dspje (not even trying anymore with the nicknames are they)" ?? whats wrong with my nickname. IM OFFENDED!

and btw > i started with $16 and cashed out at $200 dollar > and yes I know thats from other people losing $,
and I had the exact same risks  Lips sealed

and OP you are so wrong. Me a shill. I just played and wanted more ppl to play and had nothing to do with the ponzi-starter.

So switch of your tinfoil-hat-mode and get a life!



All report his post to the moderator and explain why you did so

Let's not let him insult and defamate us
I reported him. Gonna be fun to see if they take action. I hope so, he doesn't
deserve to get away with thinking he can do whatever he wants.
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1018
\o/

edit:

and wtf @

"dspje (not even trying anymore with the nicknames are they)" ?? whats wrong with my nickname. IM OFFENDED!

and btw > i started with $16 and cashed out at $200 dollar > and yes I know thats from other people losing $,
and I had the exact same risks  Lips sealed

and OP you are so wrong. Me a shill. I just played and wanted more ppl to play and had nothing to do with the ponzi-starter.

So switch of your tinfoil-hat-mode and get a life!



Let's all report his post to the moderator and explain why you did so

Let's not let him insult and defamate us
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 101
Even more people realizing they're on OPs mad list... Hahaha
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
\o/

edit:

and wtf @

"dspje (not even trying anymore with the nicknames are they)" ?? whats wrong with my nickname. IM OFFENDED!

and btw > i started with $16 and cashed out at $200 dollar > and yes I know thats from other people losing $,
and I had the exact same risks  Lips sealed

and OP you are so wrong. Me a shill. I just played and wanted more ppl to play and had nothing to do with the ponzi-starter.

So switch of your tinfoil-hat-mode and get a life!

member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
Hey OP,

Could you please put me in category 3 instead of 1? Started with 0.01btc and quit with 0.9, it was a pleasure playing with you guys! (No connections to any of the ponzi runners btw)
sr. member
Activity: 378
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FURring bitcoin up since 1762
Pah, why am I on this list, I don't know...
Hey I have an idea, I'm going to collect a load of random names from this forum and list them all scammers without any meaning or evidence.
You're just a paranoid guy. Roll Eyes
Apparently I'm a scammer because I posted about the success of a ponzi payment... riiiiiggght, jog on.

Report the post to moderator

What he is doing is defamation

Yeah, that's what I did. Hopefully a moderator would edit it. It's absolutely difamatory. I wrote only one post on another thread reviewing a particular site and got placed in that list. I really think OP got scammed, decided to cry in his own thread and start a "crusade" against ponzis. Good luck with that. Still I see no reason for him to insult other users of this forum and make lists of random people to support his claim.

It actually is technically defamation because it's a false statement intended to harm your credibility.  But honestly it seems like it's just an error of definition.  He's just using the wrong word.  A shill would be someone who is connected to the company and doesn't disclose it.  If he used a different word (say, "promoter" or "enthusiast") he'd be fine.

Well, that's what I think. I have no connection to the website, other than using the system and actually getting paid. I posted a review on that thread and that made me appear on that list, the same as others if you look up. This thread should be closed and erased, because he shouldn't be insulting and defamating other users randomly.

Well, I agree with you on the defamation part, he should use a different word other then "shill" because he's using it wrong and two wrongs don't make a right.  But I support the actions of people trying to bring awareness of how horrible ponzis are and how they don't belong in this section.
newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 0
Pah, why am I on this list, I don't know...
Hey I have an idea, I'm going to collect a load of random names from this forum and list them all scammers without any meaning or evidence.
You're just a paranoid guy. Roll Eyes
Apparently I'm a scammer because I posted about the success of a ponzi payment... riiiiiggght, jog on.

Report the post to moderator

What he is doing is defamation

Yeah, that's what I did. Hopefully a moderator would edit it. It's absolutely difamatory. I wrote only one post on another thread reviewing a particular site and got placed in that list. I really think OP got scammed, decided to cry in his own thread and start a "crusade" against ponzis. Good luck with that. Still I see no reason for him to insult other users of this forum and make lists of random people to support his claim.

It actually is technically defamation because it's a false statement intended to harm your credibility.  But honestly it seems like it's just an error of definition.  He's just using the wrong word.  A shill would be someone who is connected to the company and doesn't disclose it.  If he used a different word (say, "promoter" or "enthusiast") he'd be fine.

Well, that's what I think. I have no connection to the website, other than using the system and actually getting paid. I posted a review on that thread and that made me appear on that list, the same as others if you look up. This thread should be closed and erased, because he shouldn't be insulting and defamating other users randomly.
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
FURring bitcoin up since 1762
Pah, why am I on this list, I don't know...
Hey I have an idea, I'm going to collect a load of random names from this forum and list them all scammers without any meaning or evidence.
You're just a paranoid guy. Roll Eyes
Apparently I'm a scammer because I posted about the success of a ponzi payment... riiiiiggght, jog on.

Report the post to moderator

What he is doing is defamation

Yeah, that's what I did. Hopefully a moderator would edit it. It's absolutely difamatory. I wrote only one post on another thread reviewing a particular site and got placed in that list. I really think OP got scammed, decided to cry in his own thread and start a "crusade" against ponzis. Good luck with that. Still I see no reason for him to insult other users of this forum and make lists of random people to support his claim.

It actually is technically defamation because it's a false statement intended to harm your credibility.  But honestly it seems like it's just an error of definition.  He's just using the wrong word.  A shill would be someone who is connected to the company and doesn't disclose it.  If he used a different word (say, "promoter" or "enthusiast") he'd be fine.
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
FURring bitcoin up since 1762
Pah, why am I on this list, I don't know...
Hey I have an idea, I'm going to collect a load of random names from this forum and list them all scammers without any meaning or evidence.
You're just a paranoid guy. Roll Eyes
Apparently I'm a scammer because I posted about the success of a ponzi payment... riiiiiggght, jog on.

To be fair, he never once called you a scammer.  Go read the OP again, you appear to have misread it.
newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 0
Pah, why am I on this list, I don't know...
Hey I have an idea, I'm going to collect a load of random names from this forum and list them all scammers without any meaning or evidence.
You're just a paranoid guy. Roll Eyes
Apparently I'm a scammer because I posted about the success of a ponzi payment... riiiiiggght, jog on.

Report the post to moderator

What he is doing is defamation

Yeah, that's what I did. Hopefully a moderator would edit it. It's absolutely difamatory. I wrote only one post on another thread reviewing a particular site and got placed in that list. I really think OP got scammed, decided to cry in his own thread and start a "crusade" against ponzis. Good luck with that. Still I see no reason for him to insult other users of this forum and make lists of random people to support his claim.
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