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Topic: Fucking Ponzi's and the idiots that buy into them + List of Shills - page 2. (Read 15364 times)

hero member
Activity: 784
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What is the difference between a scam, and an idea that won't work?

None what so ever when you are selling an idea you know to be flawed as working.

What if they state in their FAQs that it is a risk investment and there is a chance that you will lose your money?
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1018
list trimmed to just ponzi operators.
As passionate as I am about this topic, Im here to warn people away from ponzi operators, not to abuse people for their stupid "investments".

The main issue with ponzi operators is they churn accounts with each new scam.

Thank you, your message will be more clear like that and your fight against the ponzi scams will be more effiscient
mem
hero member
Activity: 644
Merit: 501
Herp Derp PTY LTD
list trimmed to just ponzi operators.
As passionate as I am about this topic, Im here to warn people away from ponzi operators, not to abuse people for their stupid "investments".

The main issue with ponzi operators is they churn accounts with each new scam.
mem
hero member
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Herp Derp PTY LTD
fucking idiots that post threads like this one...

+1 especially idiot DiamondCardz who are mod of http://minerdirect.org/index.php
and who want to win every contest in there forum that why low members of that forum and
still like a SHIT!!

English please? You don't seem to have a very good grasp of the English language. I've already said I'm disqualified from most MinerDirect contests - so that point's invalid - and in my opinion I don't look like a shit. We're calling out the HYIP scams so newbies don't get scammed. The truth is, HYIPs always collapse. Always. There is not 1 HYIP in BTC history which has ran for a prolonged period and has not collapsed.

keep fighting the good fight Smiley
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
fucking idiots that post threads like this one...

+1 especially idiot DiamondCardz who are mod of http://minerdirect.org/index.php
and who want to win every contest in there forum that why low members of that forum and
still like a SHIT!!

English please? You don't seem to have a very good grasp of the English language. I've already said I'm disqualified from most MinerDirect contests - so that point's invalid - and in my opinion I don't look like a shit. We're calling out the HYIP scams so newbies don't get scammed. The truth is, HYIPs always collapse. Always. There is not 1 HYIP in BTC history which has ran for a prolonged period and has not collapsed.

So teach me how to be good sentence in English?
I want to tell you English not my main language and English language isn't center of the world the world have many languages.

So you know only English and always compare others language with your language you must know about it! you want English not mean you're smart!

And you can understand what I try to mean right?
legendary
Activity: 1134
Merit: 1118
fucking idiots that post threads like this one...

+1 especially idiot DiamondCardz who are mod of http://minerdirect.org/index.php
and who want to win every contest in there forum that why low members of that forum and
still like a SHIT!!

English please? You don't seem to have a very good grasp of the English language. I've already said I'm disqualified from most MinerDirect contests - so that point's invalid - and in my opinion I don't look like a shit. We're calling out the HYIP scams so newbies don't get scammed. The truth is, HYIPs always collapse. Always. There is not 1 HYIP in BTC history which has ran for a prolonged period and has not collapsed.
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
fucking idiots that post threads like this one...

+1 especially idiot DiamondCardz who are mod of http://minerdirect.org/index.php
and who want to win every contest in there forum that why low members of that forum and
still like a SHIT!!
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
LIFE?!?!... NO ONE GET'S OUT ALIVE!!!!
fucking idiots that post threads like this one...
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1018
What is the difference between a scam, and an idea that won't work?

I see you have several people listed as a scammer that I have been paid from. 

I have been trying (at low amounts) those multiply your btc by x %, and have been paid every time. 

When it gets to far in the game people stop investing, and thus no payments get made, rarely does the ponzi owner make much of this game(the .0001 per transaction I think?)

I wouldn't consider that a scam at all, he paid several people but the people who invested too late didn't get paid and are upset(understandable)

I would consider a scammer to be someone who after 5 deposits didn't pay anyone, and is unseen again.

Any thoughts? 
They are scammers because they didn't pay everyone. They indirectly PROMISE payout to EVERYONE, and most Ponzis end before the last investment as well, with the owner running away.

Just because a casino site would work for the first 1000 players, then they'd disappear with all deposits, would they not be a scam?

Most of the places I saw say "We do not promise you will get paid" "This only works when investors come in after you" etc in their FAQs..



It is better when they say that it is a game and that not everyone will get paid than when they say that it is a safe guaranteed investment that will always pay since it is less deceiving
I think a sc.am is when you cheat people but you could consider it scamm.y if you deceive people too much
mem
hero member
Activity: 644
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Herp Derp PTY LTD
What is the difference between a scam, and an idea that won't work?

None what so ever when you are selling an idea you know to be flawed as working.
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 101
What is the difference between a scam, and an idea that won't work?

I see you have several people listed as a scammer that I have been paid from. 

I have been trying (at low amounts) those multiply your btc by x %, and have been paid every time. 

When it gets to far in the game people stop investing, and thus no payments get made, rarely does the ponzi owner make much of this game(the .0001 per transaction I think?)

I wouldn't consider that a scam at all, he paid several people but the people who invested too late didn't get paid and are upset(understandable)

I would consider a scammer to be someone who after 5 deposits didn't pay anyone, and is unseen again.

Any thoughts? 
They are scammers because they didn't pay everyone. They indirectly PROMISE payout to EVERYONE, and most Ponzis end before the last investment as well, with the owner running away.

Just because a casino site would work for the first 1000 players, then they'd disappear with all deposits, would they not be a scam?

Most of the places I saw say "We do not promise you will get paid" "This only works when investors come in after you" etc in their FAQs..


And in that case they're not scams. People invest at their own risk.
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 1000
What is the difference between a scam, and an idea that won't work?

I see you have several people listed as a scammer that I have been paid from. 

I have been trying (at low amounts) those multiply your btc by x %, and have been paid every time. 

When it gets to far in the game people stop investing, and thus no payments get made, rarely does the ponzi owner make much of this game(the .0001 per transaction I think?)

I wouldn't consider that a scam at all, he paid several people but the people who invested too late didn't get paid and are upset(understandable)

I would consider a scammer to be someone who after 5 deposits didn't pay anyone, and is unseen again.

Any thoughts? 
They are scammers because they didn't pay everyone. They indirectly PROMISE payout to EVERYONE, and most Ponzis end before the last investment as well, with the owner running away.

Just because a casino site would work for the first 1000 players, then they'd disappear with all deposits, would they not be a scam?

Most of the places I saw say "We do not promise you will get paid" "This only works when investors come in after you" etc in their FAQs..

full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 101
What is the difference between a scam, and an idea that won't work?

I see you have several people listed as a scammer that I have been paid from. 

I have been trying (at low amounts) those multiply your btc by x %, and have been paid every time. 

When it gets to far in the game people stop investing, and thus no payments get made, rarely does the ponzi owner make much of this game(the .0001 per transaction I think?)

I wouldn't consider that a scam at all, he paid several people but the people who invested too late didn't get paid and are upset(understandable)

I would consider a scammer to be someone who after 5 deposits didn't pay anyone, and is unseen again.

Any thoughts? 
They are scammers because they didn't pay everyone. They indirectly PROMISE payout to EVERYONE, and most Ponzis end before the last investment as well, with the owner running away.

Just because a casino site would work for the first 1000 players, then they'd disappear with all deposits, would they not be a scam?
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 1000
What is the difference between a scam, and an idea that won't work?

I see you have several people listed as a scammer that I have been paid from. 

I have been trying (at low amounts) those multiply your btc by x %, and have been paid every time. 

When it gets to far in the game people stop investing, and thus no payments get made, rarely does the ponzi owner make much of this game(the .0001 per transaction I think?)

I wouldn't consider that a scam at all, he paid several people but the people who invested too late didn't get paid and are upset(understandable)

I would consider a scammer to be someone who after 5 deposits didn't pay anyone, and is unseen again.

Any thoughts? 
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 101
Of course there's a reduced amount of Ponzis now, people aren't
using them as frequently thanks to the mass wave of posts about them.

All good I guess.
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1018
what do we need to do to have ponzi's removed from gambling section. Why is it soo hart to make category just for them?!


It's not hard at all and multiple posts have been made in Meta regarding it but it's obvious that the enforcement done by the admin and moderators is limited to only spamming.

There seems to have been an overall reduction in ponzi posts though so either people are finally wising up to the scam or mods are finally moving the posts

I think the players get smarter and the ponzis owners stay the same; a few smart guys tried to do ponzis games but they ended up shutting it down sometimes leaving with the money left in the wallet
legendary
Activity: 1162
Merit: 1001
what do we need to do to have ponzi's removed from gambling section. Why is it soo hart to make category just for them?!


It's not hard at all and multiple posts have been made in Meta regarding it but it's obvious that the enforcement done by the admin and moderators is limited to only spamming.

There seems to have been an overall reduction in ponzi posts though so either people are finally wising up to the scam or mods are finally moving the posts
legendary
Activity: 1134
Merit: 1118
Jessh wow mem you have some strong views on this subject. I agree with most of the sentiments in this post, bct will be affected by ponzi games, however your language leaves alot for improvement

IMHO he is very correct. Personally I can stand Ponzi Schemes & HYIPs but I don't agree with people either shilling them or them being misleading and in the same section as gambling websites.
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
Jessh wow mem you have some strong views on this subject. I agree with most of the sentiments in this post, bct will be affected by ponzi games, however your language leaves alot for improvement
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1018
Most ponzis are sc.ams or finish in sc.ams but ponzi games on bitcointalk don't accumulate money, they send it to the old depositors as soon as the new deposits arrive
Some players did make money, most lose

No, not most - All by the very definition.
Guess who all the early investors are..... the ponzi operator.
Ponzi's also by their very definition HOLD onto money, because fucking morons encouraged by fucking idiots like yourself attempt to compound their investment.

boumalo, Im done with you - I kindly ask you to stop arguing in favour of ponzi's or I shall brand you a shill and be done with it.
Your arguments are pathetic, dangerous and highly ignorant (wilfully ?) of the subject you argue.

Your like the uncle that lets kids play with hand guns for fun because water pistols are weak, all the while sipping a beer and telling the terrified neighbours to stop getting their knickers in a knot while bullets are flying through the suburbs.

In short, you give horrific advice, endorse terrible actions and act as if its an OK thing to do.

Ponzis are bad an I discourage everyone to deposit in them; I try not to use the term investment as it is not an investment.
If you do deposit in ponzis you will likely loose your money because the ponzis operator will run away with the funds or not enough players will deposit after you
I suggested to create a ponzi section and forbid newbies to create new threads in the section to limit the losses of honest newbies that think it is a good idea to try ponzis

As you can see I don't encourage people to play ponzis nor have a positive opinion on them!!!!

Stop threatening me and getting so annoy because I don't have the exact same opinion as you do

The fact is ponzis games on bitcointalk pay the old depositors as soon as they can if new deposits arrive, saying that it is not true doesn't help fight the ponzis games! You don't seem to know how ponzis games work on bitcointalk
And some people have made money playing them, not me I lost like 90% of the players but some did; I would agree most of the money made is made by the shady ponzis owners and their friends and if you try to make money out of ponzis you most probably will lose

I respect your opinion so respect mine, especially since I am attacking ponzis not defending them
I repeat : I DISCOURAGE ANYONE TO PLAY PONZIS!!
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