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Topic: G A M B L E R S ❗❗ What are your thoughts on this? - page 4. (Read 813 times)

legendary
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I am not against any of those till they are fair and square.
There are many Casino A in the market right now and because of their demand,

In Casino B there are many limitations, For example, Player A wants to bet 1 BTC but there is no opposition that can afford this bet so the game in Casino B will not start.
Where as Casino A will not have this problem.

This is an important clarification, thank you. The main problem of all PvP games is liquidity - it is very small almost always if we are not talking about the most popular games. But in the most popular games, almost all the strategies are known + there is special software, so in fact, the difference will not even be visible against whom you are playing - a casino or a person.
hero member
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No need for too much deep and technical explanation about this. $100 bankroll right? I will use it on luck-based games such as slots and roulettes. That was a pretty small bankroll to me to spend time in strategy-based games. I value my time. Instead, I'd rather go all-in that amount in sports betting which I always do.

Wow, nice explanation, well, everyone has their own range in gambling, for some $100 maybe too small but for others, it's already a decent amount to start with gambling, and as for me, I will always try my luck on games that I can use my skills, because if I'm good enough and lucky at the same time that $100 will easily become $1000.
legendary
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No need for too much deep and technical explanation about this. $100 bankroll right? I will use it on luck-based games such as slots and roulettes. That was a pretty small bankroll to me to spend time in strategy-based games. I value my time. Instead, I'd rather go all-in that amount in sports betting which I always do.

I only gamble with that kind of bankroll in real-life gambling if we are about to point out strategy-based games. In actual gambling right on the table, my skills in card games are more effective compare to dealing in an online PvP. My overall winning stats is also good playing at this, much worth spending time compare online.
hero member
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I would definitely choose A.

Most people don't have the time to wait around and be matched with an opponent in a PvP game. Unless there is some element of betting around the house, I don't think that people will be gravitated towards the latter.

We've seen many PvP casinos come and go over the years and they have never stayed.
legendary
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What do you mean by you can't win consistently? In pure gambling games, you will mostly win as many times as the theoretical probabilities of the game say it. That is to say, if you have 48% chances of winning, you can easily win almost every other time. On the contrary, at a skilled game, if you are worse than the other players your chances to win will heavily drop.
He already said that he want to rely on his skills rather than luck. Also, as a matter of probabilites, your probabilites of winning in a particular time relies on how much money people are losing to the platform on the same game. So if there is no one losing money at that time, your chances of losing will increase/ If there is a lot of users losing money at that time, your chances of losing will decrease.
That's one of the reasons why developers despise online casinos.

There is no such thing as luck being involved when you're playing versus the house. One way or another the house will eventually walk away with all of the money if you follow a lifestyle that involves gambling. They can analyze so much information, playing patterns, huge datasets of historical information and will always have a house edge - if for no other reason than to pay for the basics of keeping that gambling company at breakeven, regardless of profit. Someone has to pay for all the licensing, infrastructure updates, support staff and latest flashy games to keep players enticed. At least with option B you have the chance of paying off the house edge while also taking advantage of your skills and intelligence to drain money from other players.

Combine my response below with yours, and poooof, we've just described the majority of online casinos.

I actually believe that you can't win consistently if you go with games that are purely based on luck, therefore I would choose B to use my skills and I'm confident I could win against anyone, however, my confidence does not speak that I'm really good in gambling but I would also choose a game that I think I will win.

$100 is not much, but if you value that money, you will not waste it on games that will not challenge your skills.

Just saying.  Smiley
What do you mean by you can't win consistently? In pure gambling games, you will mostly win as many times as the theoretical probabilities of the game say it. That is to say, if you have 48% chances of winning, you can easily win almost every other time. On the contrary, at a skilled game, if you are worse than the other players your chances to win will heavily drop.
He already said that he want to rely on his skills rather than luck. Also, as a matter of probabilites, your probabilites of winning in a particular time relies on how much money people are losing to the platform on the same game. So if there is no one losing money at that time, your chances of losing will increase/ If there is a lot of users losing money at that time, your chances of losing will decrease.
That's one of the reasons why developers despise online casinos.
No you're wrong, that's obviously not what Sanitough was talking about. He was just talking about the House Edge that "no one" can beat on the long run according to him. It's not the same thing as what you are claiming here, because you're accusing all casinos and gambling games to be rigged and to cheat their users. That's a bold statement. Do you have proofs about that? Outcomes are usually public in most of casino games, then you would easily find cases of house cheating and being able to expose them if you were right. Moreover could you explain us how platforms manage to cheat their users when the games they are offering are provably fair?
sr. member
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I am not against any of those till they are fair and square.
There are many Casino A in the market right now and because of their demand,


In Casino B there are many limitations, For example, Player A wants to bet 1 BTC but there is no opposition that can afford this bet so the game in Casino B will not start.
Where as Casino A will not have this problem.
hero member
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1. Casino A:
Players in this casino compete against the platform (house) in games such as BlackJack, Rollet, Slots, etc... .
In this type of casino, players must rely on luck and other factors to make a profit.
What other factors are these besides luck?

2. Casino B:
Players in this casino compete against each others in games such as Ludo, Poker, Rummy, etc... .
In this type of casino, players rely on their luck and skills to make a profit.
There is only one winner in each game (Ludo: first place, Poker/Rummy: last man standing).

If you don't want to express your thoughts, simply answer with A or B.

P.S: Here is an example of Casino B, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annbsc-wunzogames-plat-to-earn-a-new-daonfts-concept-5352967.
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If I knew the techniques to play skill games like Ludo I would pick alternative B, as those techniques would be useful as a little extra boost when playing against another players, however it's not possible to say skills are a decisive factor on those games most of times, because you still need to be lucky to get the right numbers from dice which will fit on your game.
Moreover, I have the impression games against another players are much more tensive and apprehensive and that is not exactly what I expect from a gambling session. For me it should be cool and relaxing and that is a good reason to pick alternative A.
hero member
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Personally, I'll choose casino B. I prefer skill-based games, especially multiplayer games, over luck-based games. The reason is that on skill-based games the outcome depends mainly on your proficiency level which is something you can develop. Besides, playing with real players and having the possibility of interacting and talking to them makes the game more fun and more intertaining.
Most likely here on this forum will really choose up skill based rather than with pure luck type of games which i could also consider on having this selection but there are really times
that we do like to play those luck based ones because there are situations where we do seek off with fast or instant results which is only possible when you do deal with luck based ones.
It cant really be denied that strategic type is something interesting since you could really have the edge if you are really good at it.
legendary
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Personally, I'll choose casino B. I prefer skill-based games, especially multiplayer games, over luck-based games. The reason is that on skill-based games the outcome depends mainly on your proficiency level which is something you can improve over time. It's like challenging yoursef. Besides, playing with real players and having the possibility to interacting and talk to them makes the game more fun and more entertaining.
legendary
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There's no need to be upset
The truth is if I have only those two options, I divide them, 50USD for option A, and 50USD for option B, the reason is simple, we have to diversify the games and opportunities, based on the fact that the strategy is very valuable for Winning, also the luck factor has a lot to do with it, you can know a lot about strategy but if you are not lucky it is difficult, it is like swimming against the tide, instead option A, randomness and luck are divided into very good Percentage, strategy also has its weight, when it comes to PVP online games, there is a better chance of winning, but one tends to get tired faster.


thinking outside the box, I like it
though what if you have limited time and have to choose only one of the 2 casinos, where would you go? A or B?
if  it's only a matter of one day then getting tired won't matter that much, in this case I'd opt for B
hero member
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2. Casino B:
Players in this casino compete against each others in games such as Ludo, Poker, Rummy, etc... .
In this type of casino, players rely on their luck and skills to make a profit.
There is only one winner in each game (Ludo: first place, Poker/Rummy: last man standing).

I will go with the B answer but you should set how much will be deducted for the house as a service fee. If we can play agaist each other in a decentralized app where nobody can control the system or manipulate the rules, it would be amazing in social gaming.
Let's say a 5% fee!
Check out this thread if you're interested in such an idea.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annbsc-wunzogames-plat-to-earn-a-new-daonfts-concept-5352967
Well, i did really like the concept of WUNZO. Let's discuss it a little bit.
Few last notes:
- Games to be shared between players are only Poker and Ludo.
- I didn't found any detail in the main webpage about the house fees. Talking about the 5% you've suggested, from whom it will be deducted? and is it really 5% (very high) or it's just a suppostion?
- You are willing to use your own token in the WUNZO platform while not everybody is familiar with binance smart chain (BSC).
And as your platform isn't mainly dedicated for players (gamblers), i would suggest you to lunch more games with the same concept and accept more tokens (btc, eth,usdt in particular).
legendary
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I actually believe that you can't win consistently if you go with games that are purely based on luck, therefore I would choose B to use my skills and I'm confident I could win against anyone, however, my confidence does not speak that I'm really good in gambling but I would also choose a game that I think I will win.

$100 is not much, but if you value that money, you will not waste it on games that will not challenge your skills.

Just saying.  Smiley
What do you mean by you can't win consistently? In pure gambling games, you will mostly win as many times as the theoretical probabilities of the game say it. That is to say, if you have 48% chances of winning, you can easily win almost every other time. On the contrary, at a skilled game, if you are worse than the other players your chances to win will heavily drop.

Means you'll be profitable in the long run, most gamblers do not focus on luck-based games as there's a house edge, and regardless of the house edge, no one could win consistently due to the word "edge". Look at the casinos, the most profitable games for them are roulette, dice, and other related games that have a house edge, it attracts gamblers because it's fun but looking at consistency, it's on the house, not the visitors.
Obviously you are a big noob who doesn't know anything about gambling.
Why are you promoting a casino if you really think that "no one could win consistently"? You want people to get scammed because of you?
As I said above most of people won't earn money on the long run, and won't lose much money too. But many people will be able to win money on the long run and many people will lose big amounts of money too. That's the mathematical laws of every gambling game.
Saying that "no one" could consistently win because of the house edge is a big bull shit from the common non-gamblers speech.
legendary
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I choose option A. It is not clear why most of the respondents choose option B - after all, in this case, you still pay the casino commission (otherwise it cannot exist in this reality). Then what is the benefit? In the hope that you will come across a weaker opponent and you can win? But I think this is somewhat naive because the level of skill in gambling is not great and basically everything is decided by luck.
hero member
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Obviously many people here would choose the option B because playing against human is more fun than playing against a machine.
Also, the house edge always favors the casino and so we can never win frequently or stay in profits for a long time when playing against the casino.
On the other hand in the skill based games, the game can be in our favor if our skills are better than the opponent.
legendary
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The truth is if I have only those two options, I divide them, 50USD for option A, and 50USD for option B, the reason is simple, we have to diversify the games and opportunities, based on the fact that the strategy is very valuable for Winning, also the luck factor has a lot to do with it, you can know a lot about strategy but if you are not lucky it is difficult, it is like swimming against the tide, instead option A, randomness and luck are divided into very good Percentage, strategy also has its weight, when it comes to PVP online games, there is a better chance of winning, but one tends to get tired faster.
hero member
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I will play on casino A as I see that slots are in there, although I do not play slots games as often as in the past. I am not familiar with card games such as poker, ludo, and rummy, but it could be interesting to play those cards games, especially if we have some skills in those cards games. If casino B has a dice game, maybe I will select casino B instead of casino A because I like playing dice games. And for the money, using $100 is too big for me and I can not accept if I use all of that money and prefer to use the money to trade to make money than make money from gambling.
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In those examples mentioned I will go with Casino B. You do not expect to win betting against a gambling house. If you do it must have to come out very tough because there is always going to be hard manipulations from the casino owners. It is like a servant trying to beat his master at a game. That is the way I see it with A. In B it will be servants playing against another servant. With B no player will have an undue advantage except them relying on their individual skills at cards.

I would rather go to play the option B which required a skills and a pinch of luck rather than playing on an option of A which is purely luck-based. It would be hard to beat the house and you're purely relying on the luck and at some point the house has the control over the machine or the play while in option B you may have the edge to win but this would rely on how you play the game well and for sure the opponents seated circling on the table were also well-oriented gamer who used to have a better game skills too but here in this type of game you would learn such a great experience that could make you a better player too.
hero member
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For me, it's Casino B, at the least I don't make the house rich with those games since it's the players that takes the wins and not the house plus, you have more chance of winning in a skill based game compared to a odd based game plus you make the house much fatter.

Both A and B, will make the house rich. Dont you know that there is a fee on the B? Lets say poker, you are paying something called by rake. The more you play, the more rake the house earn and it will make them rich.
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its hard to win in the casino b because theres only one winner and for sure there are lots of skilful gamblers that will join and compete for the given prize  .
i will go for the casino "a" if the rules are about winning because there are luck games that im good at such as dice and blackjack .
i think i can be able to win some and then i will stop before my winning turned to losses .
sr. member
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I'm picking option number 2 it's hard to beat the house edge and its fact, and if you are competing with each other you have a good chance to win the match if you have better skill than all the players playing against each other, option number one will end up with no winners if they all run into a stroke of bad luck, at least on option number two one of you will win.

The house edge is almost impossible to beat without cheating, so I understand many gamblers would prefer Casino B. But the problem is that not
all gamblers are obsessed with winning when playing gambling, there are gamblers who play gambling just looking for entertainment. Like I prefer
Casino A because I am very entertained playing games such as Slots or Dice. Winning for me is just a bonus, the most important thing is that
I can be entertained by playing gambling based on luck.
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