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You should set up a poll for this there are people picking option 1 or 2 and both, but so far majority picked option number 2

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Players in this casino compete against each others in games such as Ludo, Poker, Rummy, etc... .
In this type of casino, players rely on their luck and skills to make a profit.
There is only one winner in each game (Ludo: first place, Poker/Rummy: last man standing).

You can't beat the house edge it could end up all players losing while on option number 2 at least one player can win the jackpot and take home the pot, you have an equal chance of winning it depends on who has the better skill on all the players playing.

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If you asked it few years ago, I'd go with B but now I'd go with A definitely. I like to play slot games only for more than 1 year now. Anyway, nice way to promote your own gambling project, so good luck with your project. It wont be easy thing for you to manage pvp based gambling project.

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Why not both? I think a casino will have more users if the users have more than one option. Games vary and a good casino should be offering as many games as possible whether they are luck-based games or skill-based games, or they are playing against the house or against other players.

But if these are the only choices, I think I will have to choose Casino A. If I play against the house, at least the fairness is provable. If I play on a table with other players, I wouldn't know if the other players know each other and their cards.

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I'm picking option number 2 it's hard to beat the house edge and its fact, and if you are competing with each other you have a good chance to win the match if you have better skill than all the players playing against each other, option number one will end up with no winners if they all run into a stroke of bad luck, at least on option number two one of you will win.

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In those examples mentioned I will go with Casino B. You do not expect to win betting against a gambling house. If you do it must have to come out very tough because there is always going to be hard manipulations from the casino owners. It is like a servant trying to beat his master at a game. That is the way I see it with A. In B it will be servants playing against another servant. With B no player will have an undue advantage except them relying on their individual skills at cards.

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Quote from: Sanitough on September 14, 2021, 05:57:50 PM

Quote from: Saint-loup on September 14, 2021, 10:58:37 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on September 14, 2021, 09:26:04 AM

I actually believe that you can't win consistently if you go with games that are purely based on luck, therefore I would choose B to use my skills and I'm confident I could win against anyone, however, my confidence does not speak that I'm really good in gambling but I would also choose a game that I think I will win.

$100 is not much, but if you value that money, you will not waste it on games that will not challenge your skills.

Just saying.

What do you mean by you can't win consistently? In pure gambling games, you will mostly win as many times as the theoretical probabilities of the game say it. That is to say, if you have 48% chances of winning, you can easily win almost every other time. On the contrary, at a skilled game, if you are worse than the other players your chances to win will heavily drop.

Means you'll be profitable in the long run, most gamblers do not focus on luck-based games as there's a house edge, and regardless of the house edge, no one could win consistently due to the word "edge". Look at the casinos, the most profitable games for them are roulette, dice, and other related games that have a house edge, it attracts gamblers because it's fun but looking at consistency, it's on the house, not the visitors.

it's nice to observe deviation of probabilities as well, of course on the long run the tendency is to have these x% chances of winning @Saint-loup talks about, but life is surprising and sometimes we can have long win sequences and long losing sequences before coming back to the norm.

would love to read more on this subject and also learn more about the different probability of winning on each style of game

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Quote from: Saint-loup on September 14, 2021, 10:58:37 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on September 14, 2021, 09:26:04 AM

I actually believe that you can't win consistently if you go with games that are purely based on luck, therefore I would choose B to use my skills and I'm confident I could win against anyone, however, my confidence does not speak that I'm really good in gambling but I would also choose a game that I think I will win.

$100 is not much, but if you value that money, you will not waste it on games that will not challenge your skills.

Just saying.

What do you mean by you can't win consistently? In pure gambling games, you will mostly win as many times as the theoretical probabilities of the game say it. That is to say, if you have 48% chances of winning, you can easily win almost every other time. On the contrary, at a skilled game, if you are worse than the other players your chances to win will heavily drop.

Means you'll be profitable in the long run, most gamblers do not focus on luck-based games as there's a house edge, and regardless of the house edge, no one could win consistently due to the word "edge". Look at the casinos, the most profitable games for them are roulette, dice, and other related games that have a house edge, it attracts gamblers because it's fun but looking at consistency, it's on the house, not the visitors.

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I'll pick option 2 if I have the skill at least on this option I have a chance to showcase my skill and maybe if I'm good against the other guys
I can beat them with my skill, it's still a game of luck though because you do not know the other side's skill.
Option number one is for gamblers who find enjoyment and excitement by throwing caution to the wind these people are those who play slot dice and mine etc.

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Quote from: Fortify on September 14, 2021, 02:56:42 PM

Quote from: Guzter on September 13, 2021, 01:54:46 PM

Assume you have $100 and must choose between the two casino versions shown below to turn a proft. Which will you choose?

1. Casino A:
Players in this casino compete against the platform (house) in games such as BlackJack, Rollet, Slots, etc... .
In this type of casino, players must rely on luck and other factors to make a profit.

2. Casino B:
Players in this casino compete against each others in games such as Ludo, Poker, Rummy, etc... .
In this type of casino, players rely on their luck and skills to make a profit.
There is only one winner in each game (Ludo: first place, Poker/Rummy: last man standing).

If you don't want to express your thoughts, simply answer with A or B.

P.S: Here is an example of Casino B, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annbsc-wunzogames-plat-to-earn-a-new-daonfts-concept-5352967.

There is no such thing as luck being involved when you're playing versus the house. One way or another the house will eventually walk away with all of the money if you follow a lifestyle that involves gambling. They can analyze so much information, playing patterns, huge datasets of historical information and will always have a house edge - if for no other reason than to pay for the basics of keeping that gambling company at breakeven, regardless of profit. Someone has to pay for all the licensing, infrastructure updates, support staff and latest flashy games to keep players enticed. At least with option B you have the chance of paying off the house edge while also taking advantage of your skills and intelligence to drain money from other players.

Combine my response below with yours, and poooof, we've just described the majority of online casinos.

Quote from: Saint-loup on September 14, 2021, 10:58:37 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on September 14, 2021, 09:26:04 AM

I actually believe that you can't win consistently if you go with games that are purely based on luck, therefore I would choose B to use my skills and I'm confident I could win against anyone, however, my confidence does not speak that I'm really good in gambling but I would also choose a game that I think I will win.

$100 is not much, but if you value that money, you will not waste it on games that will not challenge your skills.

Just saying.

What do you mean by you can't win consistently? In pure gambling games, you will mostly win as many times as the theoretical probabilities of the game say it. That is to say, if you have 48% chances of winning, you can easily win almost every other time. On the contrary, at a skilled game, if you are worse than the other players your chances to win will heavily drop.

He already said that he want to rely on his skills rather than luck. Also, as a matter of probabilites, your probabilites of winning in a particular time relies on how much money people are losing to the platform on the same game. So if there is no one losing money at that time, your chances of losing will increase/ If there is a lot of users losing money at that time, your chances of losing will decrease.
That's one of the reasons why developers despise online casinos.

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Quote from: South Park on September 14, 2021, 01:23:52 PM

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Quote from: fiulpro on September 13, 2021, 02:02:54 PM

Well I do think that if am really good at this game which am competing for then I would rather use option B. If am probably not really sure about what am doing then I do think think it would even work I would probably go with B for sure.

B sounds more fun hands down.

Therefore I would rather evaluate my decisions and then make an informed decision as well.. Both ways you need a lot of luck but in one you need skills as well.

I've always disliked online casinos because of their algorithms, which cause the odds to be stacked against you, but playing against humans who aren't connected to the platform is much more enjoyable because I'm pretty sure we all have the same odds.

Just be careful, just because you are playing against humans that doesn't mean that there could not be something going on, for example one of the great problems of playing poker online is that two or more people can decide to play as a team on the same table, this means that they have more chances of getting good cards than the ones that you have which means that if you are playing against them you're most likely going to lose.

I agree. However, your remark made me wonder how blackjack dealers can make a profit while playing against thousands of people?

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Quote from: alegotardo on September 14, 2021, 03:40:19 PM

Quote from: Guzter on September 13, 2021, 01:54:46 PM

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I would definitely choose B!

I don't like games where I rely solely on luck.
I prefer games that involve a minimum of reasoning/skill or sports games where the probability of winning the bet is linked to factors that go beyond pure luck.
Also, betting against other players makes the game much more dynamic and fun.

Same here without any doubt but there are really times which you do really feel out on playing those luck based games specially dice and its still popular nowadays and theres really some demand into it.

Just like on what others been saying that this is something a personal choice or doesn't really need to make out some choosing because we can deal with both if we wanted to.

We do have the money to spend on and its our own decision whether what kind of games we are intending to play.

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Quote from: Guzter on September 13, 2021, 01:54:46 PM

Assume you have $100 and must choose between the two casino versions shown below to turn a proft. Which will you choose?

1. Casino A:[...]
2. Casino B:[...]

I would definitely choose B!

I don't like games where I rely solely on luck.
I prefer games that involve a minimum of reasoning/skill or sports games where the probability of winning the bet is linked to factors that go beyond pure luck.
Also, betting against other players makes the game much more dynamic and fun.

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Quote from: Guzter on September 13, 2021, 01:54:46 PM

Assume you have $100 and must choose between the two casino versions shown below to turn a proft. Which will you choose?

1. Casino A:
Players in this casino compete against the platform (house) in games such as BlackJack, Rollet, Slots, etc... .
In this type of casino, players must rely on luck and other factors to make a profit.

2. Casino B:
Players in this casino compete against each others in games such as Ludo, Poker, Rummy, etc... .
In this type of casino, players rely on their luck and skills to make a profit.
There is only one winner in each game (Ludo: first place, Poker/Rummy: last man standing).

If you don't want to express your thoughts, simply answer with A or B.

P.S: Here is an example of Casino B, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annbsc-wunzogames-plat-to-earn-a-new-daonfts-concept-5352967.

There is no such thing as luck being involved when you're playing versus the house. One way or another the house will eventually walk away with all of the money if you follow a lifestyle that involves gambling. They can analyze so much information, playing patterns, huge datasets of historical information and will always have a house edge - if for no other reason than to pay for the basics of keeping that gambling company at breakeven, regardless of profit. Someone has to pay for all the licensing, infrastructure updates, support staff and latest flashy games to keep players enticed. At least with option B you have the chance of paying off the house edge while also taking advantage of your skills and intelligence to drain money from other players.

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Quote from: Guzter on September 13, 2021, 01:54:46 PM

Assume you have $100 and must choose between the two casino versions shown below to turn a proft. Which will you choose?

1. Casino A:
Players in this casino compete against the platform (house) in games such as BlackJack, Rollet, Slots, etc... .
In this type of casino, players must rely on luck and other factors to make a profit.

2. Casino B:
Players in this casino compete against each others in games such as Ludo, Poker, Rummy, etc... .
In this type of casino, players rely on their luck and skills to make a profit.
There is only one winner in each game (Ludo: first place, Poker/Rummy: last man standing).

If you don't want to express your thoughts, simply answer with A or B.

P.S: Here is an example of Casino B, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annbsc-wunzogames-plat-to-earn-a-new-daonfts-concept-5352967.

I will go with the option no 2. The reason is that it is not easy to compete with the house and you need luck in order to win against house.
However in a P2P match, you can win easily if you are more skillful than the opponent. Since you know that you are playing against the house, it may give you more pleasure and entertainment.

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My choice of casino (A).

Has a special attraction for me to play BlackJack, Rollet, Slots, of course there are certain reasons that make me happy and enjoy the game.

In three categories of gambling games I am more fond of Rollet games, my experience with $100 capital was unintentional, only luck was on my side at that time, experience, $10 + $ 10 I put on the numbers 2x out, I tried the third one at 14x the bet was placed at that time $50, luck was on my side with $50 capital I made $700 in three rounds, 2 lost, one won, for that as you mentioned, if I have a capital of $ 100 at this time, of course I will try my luck the umpteenth time, that's my principle, in option A.

By choosing the casino (A), you are about to defeat the house which depends on pure luck, just like it happened to you with the 100$ bets. I think you choosed it because of your favorite games are all against the house and not require too much skills, but does this mean that they are really better than casino (B)? Against a house, the chance of winning will always be lower than those games with real players. You can see that the great majority of users posting in this thread prefer casino (B).
I wonder how someone can choose casino (A) when he can win in casino (B) based on his skills.

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In my opinion, most players will choose option B because the game with people is more trusting of each participant and also in this option can use their skills. Another good argument is that when playing against a casino our chances of winning will always be lower.

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Quote from: Guzter on September 13, 2021, 02:06:01 PM

Quote from: fiulpro on September 13, 2021, 02:02:54 PM

Well I do think that if am really good at this game which am competing for then I would rather use option B. If am probably not really sure about what am doing then I do think think it would even work I would probably go with B for sure.

B sounds more fun hands down.

Therefore I would rather evaluate my decisions and then make an informed decision as well.. Both ways you need a lot of luck but in one you need skills as well.

I've always disliked online casinos because of their algorithms, which cause the odds to be stacked against you, but playing against humans who aren't connected to the platform is much more enjoyable because I'm pretty sure we all have the same odds.

Just be careful, just because you are playing against humans that doesn't mean that there could not be something going on, for example one of the great problems of playing poker online is that two or more people can decide to play as a team on the same table, this means that they have more chances of getting good cards than the ones that you have which means that if you are playing against them you're most likely going to lose.

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I actually find option B more thrilling and exciting as a player. It feels different to go against other gamblings and winning by skills and not just by luck. Having our own strategy would be an advantage rather than playing against the house which has a bigger risk of losing.

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so, the thread is an advertisement?

anyway, I'd pick casino A. as much as I love going against people when gambling. I also do love gambling at my own pace(which I can't really do when you are playing against people. especially if it is a tournament).

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Quote from: YOSHIE on September 14, 2021, 08:58:26 AM

My choice of casino (A).

Has a special attraction for me to play BlackJack, Rollet, Slots, of course there are certain reasons that make me happy and enjoy the game.

In three categories of gambling games I am more fond of Rollet games, my experience with $100 capital was unintentional, only luck was on my side at that time, experience, $10 + $ 10 I put on the numbers 2x out, I tried the third one at 14x the bet was placed at that time $50, luck was on my side with $50 capital I made $700 in three rounds, 2 lost, one won, for that as you mentioned, if I have a capital of $ 100 at this time, of course I will try my luck the umpteenth time, that's my principle, in option A.

Agree and clearly interested in option A.
Is that some kind of trick you're trying to use? Or did you purposely randomize the roulette system and make a fortune? I often find a lot of techniques like what you do, namely by making randomizations by increasing the bet, reducing the bet, with certain criteria and then making automatic bets.
is this method effective the second time?

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