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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.

Its a joke, a myth, a gamblers fallacy and it will be repeated again and again by many people in the future.
In the online casino, it is impossible to set it by design, I think no need to take seriously for a topic like that.
Many people also will consider it as a joke either.
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Starting from curiosity because some of my friends got a big enough win from the gambling activities he did, it encouraged me to join the world of gambling and immediately started betting with a large enough amount. But the first time I played gambling, I got a significant defeat. So I saw that this gambling really could not provide any benefits at all. And think that gambling is just about luck. And there are people who say that someone who has just entered the world of gambling will immediately get a big win. I think that's just nonsense.
But I don't know what happens if the first time I play gambling I immediately get a win. Maybe I will think the same as people, that this gambling can really benefit the players.

Well that is what we call risk in gambling, we really don't know what will be the outcome is, it could be based on luck, 50/50 chance or sports betting wherein odd makers put a team or a individual as favorite. Yes, there are a people who win immediately the first time when they enter gambling, maybe though you are not that lucky. Nevertheless, even if you lose the first time, it can still be motivation for others to chase what they have lost and so the cycle begin with either a big win or a small lost.

If you are talking about benefits, then obviously it's the free money and then the excitement that you are going to feel. What we call the adrenaline rush and so others are going to be trap with this first win as they want to repeat the process and that feeling again and again.
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There is no certain approach that best suits all gambling styles or personalities, this calls for us to know ourselves in relation to the game we desire and get to bet and at the same time manage both ourselves and our accounts proactively. I will not be among the people who are preaching fear into the minds of gamblers, this can only cause them not to be free with their gambling. This preaching is particularly not true, there is no relationship between the first-time result and the next tries, let fate and expertise continue to work for you as a gambler. The first winning can't stop another winning if it must, and the first loss can stop the next winning or loss, it is what it is.

If a gamble didn't play the second time, how would he know if it was going to be a win or loss? It has to do with our minds and this can't be a cause of addiction truly. I've also said it here more than once, addiction is a different issue, so I'm kinda of agreeing with the OP here as people often overemphasize things here. We should just be budgetary, know the games we are playing fully well, and have a good plan and not go astray from the plan. Our discipline must also be intact as it's the only way that could preserve our betting psychology. If we lose it, then we are no longer in control but emotions have taken over.

And of course, we should only budget the money we can afford to lose and never exceed that limit.
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Starting from curiosity because some of my friends got a big enough win from the gambling activities he did, it encouraged me to join the world of gambling and immediately started betting with a large enough amount. But the first time I played gambling, I got a significant defeat. So I saw that this gambling really could not provide any benefits at all. And think that gambling is just about luck. And there are people who say that someone who has just entered the world of gambling will immediately get a big win. I think that's just nonsense.
But I don't know what happens if the first time I play gambling I immediately get a win. Maybe I will think the same as people, that this gambling can really benefit the players.
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Yes it is all about mindset, no matter what is the result of our first time gambling, it can be dangerous if we do not know what to do next.
Some people who won their first time gambling may think like "it is easy to make money", "I think I'm lucky with this game" or something similar which make them continue.
On the opposite side, some people who lost their first gambling may think "I'm unlucky now, maybe next", "I have to take back what I lost" so they continue.
Both situations are dangerous situation that may lead gamblers into addiction, I dont think that it is a trap but it is more about how to make decision with what to do based on what we get. 
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If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.


It depends on the character of the gambler, some gamblers get motivated when they win on their first tries and spend time and money trying to extend their winning run, and some gamblers even though losses on their first tries continue to play, usually get their inspirations from gamblers who succeed from gambling, thinking that they can duplicate their access.
Their battle cry is if others can do it why not me I can do better than this guy so I will keep on trying until I get that winning formula.
Indeed, different gamblers has different response on their first win. But if we would base on what's usually happening, then for sure it is gamblers who are thrilled on their next bets after a winning one than with gamblers who are still playing after their first loss. And I guess it is where this idea originated. However we could only prove whether the argument is wrong or not once you get to that point wherein you will decide whether to continue playing or to stop already. Individual differences would as well matter and we just tend to complicate the idea due to our assumptions. If you're just unsure if your exposure to this industry would be good or bad in your end, then stop already. Winning and losing will both come its way to you.
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No matter how much you try to warn newbie gamblers, they'd still believe that beginner's luck carries on and they are destined to win a lot of games just because they won the first time. Winning something releases feel good hormones which is addicting, and those who can't control these urges tend to chase this feeling because it is already embedded in their brains. It's just like doing something you deem as fun, and because you are enjoying it, you keep on coming back to it.

I guess the best advice is that those who gamble should keep track of how much they spent on gambling and that they take things easy. It's something that will claw through you every now and then and you'll give in because you're feeling lucky.
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Yes it's true. People’s behavior is based on experience, and when the gambling experience is positive from the very beginning, it is later very difficult to change your attitude towards it. I knew one gambler who played slots for the first time and won a car (several thousand dollars at that time). This played a very cruel joke on him. Then he lost this car and a lot of money trying to win again.
If his experience had not begun with such a pleasant event that he remembers for the rest of his life, then perhaps he would not have become addicted to gambling.
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Most people that are gambling for the first time, did that because they wanted to make profit. Some gamblers will have already gotten addicted, and after they have overcome their addiction, will now understand that gambling is done for fun. Another set of gamblers are those that will not get addicted but after so much loss on gambleling is when they will now realize themselves that chasing their loss is leading them to more losses. This is when they will stop gambling for profit but for fun. In gambling experience is what teaches or disciplines a gambler for him to be able to control his gambling activities.
Usually, they are curious because they have seen videos of other people who have won a lot of money, so they want to try it too. In this first game, they were able to get the victory they wanted, and this is what made them want to come back another day. But some gamblers don't stop immediately after winning because they are too greedy to want to win even bigger. They actually use their winnings to continue gambling, but unfortunately, most of them end up losing, which wastes all their money. But this also doesn't make them stop gambling and think that gambling is just an entertainment activity. Instead, they continue gambling again after they get more money. This is what triggers them to become addicted to gambling, and most of them will not realize it.
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If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.


It depends on the character of the gambler, some gamblers get motivated when they win on their first tries and spend time and money trying to extend their winning run, and some gamblers even though losses on their first tries continue to play, usually get their inspirations from gamblers who succeed from gambling, thinking that they can duplicate their access.
Their battle cry is if others can do it why not me I can do better than this guy so I will keep on trying until I get that winning formula.
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Most people that are gambling for the first time, did that because they wanted to make profit. Some gamblers will have already gotten addicted, and after they have overcome their addiction, will now understand that gambling is done for fun. Another set of gamblers are those that will not get addicted but after so much loss on gambleling is when they will now realize themselves that chasing their loss is leading them to more losses. This is when they will stop gambling for profit but for fun. In gambling experience is what teaches or disciplines a gambler for him to be able to control his gambling activities.
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Playing for the first time is not the basis if the gambler is going to become addicted or not. Regardless of you win or lose when you first time playing, it still depends on your mindset towards gambling. Is it a way to make money or just for entertainment?

But there are people who see losses as an indication to just stop because of that bad experience. While others chose to continue to somehow recover back their money. Some of us believe that winning can trigger the gambler to keep playing, it might be true. But again, it depends on how you treat gambling, how you value your money to risk in games where luck is a major factor to be able to win. Because if you have no discipline and just let your emotion control you, certainly gambling can affect you negatively that can lead to addiction.
Is it naive to reduce addiction to mentality and discipline? We must accept casinos' clever strategies for hooking gamblers. Everything from slot machine sounds and lights to casino floor architecture is carefully engineered to attract and retain gamblers. In addition to strength, a person must understand their environment. Every piece is designed to attack human vulnerabilities in this psychological battleground. Isnt it equally vital to teach potential gamblers about these traps as mindset?

Money and winning are triggers, yes. What about societal factors? Do peer pressure, gambling camaraderie, and the glamorization of "large winnings" contribute to addiction? Gambling is social. Gambling may be for fun or profit, but social dynamics often influence behavior. Why not also address these social factors and educate individuals about how they can be quietly manipulated into gambling more than they intended? Not just the individual, but the gambling ecosystem. Dont we need a broader, more comprehensive approach to identify and reduce gambling addiction risks?
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It's dangerous for gamblers who will think that they could repeat the same win over and over again. That could actually lead to gambling addiction because they are hoping over and over again and even if they are losing more they will try again because they already experience winning once or twice.
But correct, if a gambler is in control then this kind of trap is nothing to worry about. If we already accepted that it's going to be difficult to win against the house then we are okay. Only those who are too optimistic to think that they can defeat them with a large margin will be the ones who are in trouble.
I've experienced winning as a newbie and I already withdrawn the money from the gambling site and enjoyed all the profits with my kids. After that rest, I played back and luckily won again. Enjoyed that profit one more time until in the recent couple of months I am not able to win anymore. It's like everything I won was taken back and in my computation, most of the profits from before are almost equal to the losses in USD.
But that didn't make me a gambling addict, I still have control that whenever my budget is done, I will stop. That made me realize that gambling will take back what we won, it may take them a long time but they will claim it back slowly unless we get out of casino games.
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first win may be the first factor in someone becoming addicted because that when dopamine increases giving excessive pleasure and the mindset becomes thinking that gambling can provide large amounts of money in a short time and that when gamblers who bet for the first time will feel greedy and start gambling again without realized he was entering the addiction zone at an early stage.

and for gamblers who lose almost all the time for the first time, they feel afraid to gamble again because it is the first time they have lost and at that time they will feel hesitant to gamble again.

but in my opinion, this is all just about the condition of each individual mindset, even if they lose or win the initial bet, if their mind is very broad and understands the negative impacts of gambling, they will definitely not be addicted, but in general, winning has a big chance of becoming addicted.

        -  Actually, the first win at the casino is really the first trap for a gambler to become addicted, and winning at gambling is the way for a gambler to return to the casino. That's true, and I believe that.

But it didn't lead me to become addicted to gambling; I only play gambling occasionally when I have too much money or I'm bored, because gambling gives me entertainment and also relieves me when I'm in trouble sometimes.
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Unless some gambling platforms intentionally do this, I think it’s just luck but we pay a lot of attention to it because “it’s my first time and I won”. Gambling and losing the first time happens too, we just try to play again but forget that we would have recorded it in our head that we lost the first time so there would be no believe tied to the first win mentality. But note that no matter what, consistently playing or addiction has nothing to do with if you win or not… after all some people have self control and know their limit no matter how much they win.
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And departing from that, it is important for us to be wiser in responding to all the wins we get in gambling. Do not let the victory we get can change our behavior in gambling.
I'm sure we've all been beginners at gambling, that's why advice like this is very important, don't get caught up in the first win you get because it's not necessarily completely ours, it could be that when we continue playing, the winning money will actually be drained again, the point is don't let the victory blind our eyes and make us forget to stop gambling.

For experienced gamblers those who are trying to play at a new casino for the first time to win there usually they know what they have to do which is to withdraw a few percent of the winnings and leave a little to gamble again and continue the game if they lose they will leave and come back later, this it is important for beginners to follow the way experienced players play so as not to get stuck on their first play. control emotions in any situation  Wink
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I think you got it wrong? It's not the first "game", but rather the first "win" that they get. So it doesn't matter even if you did the survey you're talking about. And in the case that I was pertaining to, first wins usually have a bigger dose of dopamine imo since it's the first time you both won a gamble and you received money through it at the same time. While it may not apply to all of us, I reckon most of us had that surge of adrenaline at that point.

But if it were your case, It's just a never-ending cycle really, regardless if you win most of the time or lose most of the time. Both sides have that incentive of persuading you to bet more with losing being "recoup" and winning being "win more" kind of idea.
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It's a big trap for every beginners, it doesn't have to be the first try, assuming they start with Slots game and after six rounds they net good amount of money, they will probably think it's this easy to win money in a casino, that's where they will start having dreams in their head, they will straight think about their bank account and how much they have.

It's very possible to be a addicted gambler from day one if you start winning straight away, all the hard earned money you keep in your bank account will be your next target, someone very close did this in 2022 and he went so broke that he returned to driving job he once left six years ago.

It's better to understand what you are getting into before going fully desperate on it, know and understand the risk of gambling, you will safe yourself from desperate attempt, it's 95% chances of never getting anything out of gambling, you don't want to bet your life on it.
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The first win that we get, can lead to an assumption that this gambling can give us profit.  The victory at the beginning of the game, can make us careless in gambling because we think that luck and victory are on our side. So we behave carelessly by increasing the amount of bets up to many times. And the victory at the end of the game, this can lead to an assumption, that there is always hope even though your balance has started to run low. And again this can cause us to behave carelessly, by continuing to play even though we have often lost.

And departing from that, it is important for us to be wiser in responding to all the wins we get in gambling. Do not let the victory we get can change our behavior in gambling.
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Indeed, the first win can make gamblers more careless because they are curious and challenged to win again, even with larger amount, they will spend more money to chase this win.
But telling those who are just starting to gamble or are beginner gamblers will only be in vain and cannot have any impact or impact on them because what they really have is their goal of winning.
From this it can be concluded that victory is their goal and we cannot change things like that and only they themselves can correct what has been wrong in their thinking for the purpose of winning.

But if it is said that only the first win is the most dangerous then that is not true because defeat is also very dangerous.
Just relying on surveys that have not been clearly proven cannot be used as an accurate assessment.
Just as comparison, winning will be difficult to obtain and they will stop chasing victory if they have experienced many defeats, but the first defeat will make the gambler disappointed and try to recover and it clear that the two are equal.
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