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Quote from: _act_ on December 09, 2023, 01:25:46 PM

I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

First time win or lose never has anything to do with gambling addict. The mindset one have for gambling is the major cause of being an addict. Immediately one start purchasing is lost or believing you can become a billionaire through gambling within second, then problem has started already.

Quote from: _act_ on December 09, 2023, 01:25:46 PM

Gamble with the money you can lose.

It's high time people get to know this. The more they know the more the enjoy gambling. Gambling should be fun and not something that will turn you to think of lose.

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on December 12, 2023, 05:57:10 PM

Winning is not a trap even if they gamble on luck-based games.

Agree. Winning isn't a trap, the wrong mindset is a true trap. If we have the mindset in gambling, we will be trapped in the wrong way in gambling.

Quote from: BITCOIN4X on December 12, 2023, 05:57:10 PM

Sports betting or some skill based games can be won when they are really able to do the analysis properly and have expertise about it. So I don't think it's a trap even if some of us consider it a myth.

There is some bets that can be analyzed with knowledge and experience. But there is also bets truly depending on the luck. However, the luck basis isn't a trap, it is just an opportunity to win it. Before we do betting, we already understand about the chance to win it. So, it won't function as a trap because we actually realize it.

Quote from: BITCOIN4X on December 12, 2023, 05:57:10 PM

I don't believe in such myths, but winning and losing are part of gambling. It is not true that it is a trap, but perhaps it is considered a trap because some gamblers start to get addicted after the first win.

Indeed. There should be wins and loses in gambling. If we don't want to lose, we simply don't try to gamble.
No, I don't think people will automatically start to be addicted after they got the first win. As long as the gambler understands the nature of gambling, he/she won't be addicted. He/she must realize that it is impossible if he/she will always win the gambling. There should be time in the future that he/she may experience severe loses.

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We can't just simply say to other gamblers that they should not believe in such a first-game win trap.

Let them push through and experience themselves those they should expect once they continue to gamble. Whether they fall or not after that first-game experience, only they can tell. Newcomers won't understand it until they push their gambling experience.

Later on, they will realize the true meaning behind the first-game winning experience.

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It is the truth actually, outcome of first game, whether it be a win or loss, isn't always the necessary reason why most gamblers get addicted to gambling, it's all a matter of personality and perspective, a gambler who first does his or her research and discover the risks involved with gambling will always gamble with precuastion, regardless of what the outcome of his or her first game is, if it's a win, he or she will understand that, the win is and would never be constant or consistent. And if it's a loss, he or she would know that loses are very Normal and common in gambling, as that there is no harm in accepting a loss even multiple times, for there will always be some winnings at the end of the day as time progresses.

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It's a scheduled raffle...; It'll drop on your ticket Id today and would eventually drop for another tomorrow... It doesn't have to be yours everyday (especially for virtual gamings).. so If a one-time win can eventually convince anyone to keep gambling, then it means that your winnings were just given to you to keep the frequency - I can't call that a win for you cus you're definitely gonna spend them and lose everything without a doubt.

Quote from: BITCOIN4X on December 12, 2023, 05:57:10 PM

I don't believe in such myths, but winning and losing are part of gambling. It is not true that it is a trap, but perhaps it is considered a trap because some gamblers start to get addicted after the first win.

wait ... Cut it, Cut that shit up!! Losing is a myth to you? Seems you've got a different lexicon to the regular ones that defines the word "MYTH" in a different sense ... Cause what's this??

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Winning is not a trap even if they gamble on luck-based games.
Sports betting or some skill based games can be won when they are really able to do the analysis properly and have expertise about it. So I don't think it's a trap even if some of us consider it a myth.

I don't believe in such myths, but winning and losing are part of gambling. It is not true that it is a trap, but perhaps it is considered a trap because some gamblers start to get addicted after the first win.

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Well that is what we call risk in gambling, we really don't know what will be the outcome is, it could be based on luck, 50/50 chance or sports betting wherein odd makers put a team or a individual as favorite. Yes, there are a people who win immediately the first time when they enter gambling, maybe though you are not that lucky. Nevertheless, even if you lose the first time, it can still be motivation for others to chase what they have lost and so the cycle begin with either a big win or a small lost.

If you are talking about benefits, then obviously it's the free money and then the excitement that you are going to feel. What we call the adrenaline rush and so others are going to be trap with this first win as they want to repeat the process and that feeling again and again.

And believe me, when I continue to chase a victory like other people have, and continue to try to return the capital I have spent, I will only deepen my losses. it's a natural thing. and that's why I don't really expect big wins when gambling, and just let it go when I experience a loss.

And talking about sports betting, this goes back to our knowledge of the sport and our ability to carry out match analysis techniques. Because by having good knowledge and analytical skills, we will always be able to increase our chances of winning.

Quote from: slapper on December 11, 2023, 09:25:36 AM

And so, here's the paradox: we're tempted, are we not, even if we know better? It's intoxicating - the rush, the adrenaline. Let's not fool ourselves, though. We are the consenting marionettes of a master puppeteer, and that is gambling. They say the house always wins, and who are we to disagree? Therefore, let's remember to take a quick look in the mirror as we laugh at the naivete of others. Do we differ in any way?

Therefore, we are required to be gamblers who have full control over their gambling activities. However, unfortunately there are still many gamblers who are in the opposite situation, where they are the ones who are controlled by their gambling activities, they don't know when they should stop and when they should start gambling.
And the paradox in gambling, a person continues to try in any way to get some money so he can gamble. and when he gets a big win, he makes an even bigger bet again, until in the end the winnings go back into gambling. They think that by gambling they can get profit and pleasure, but in fact what they get is loss and regret.

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Quote from: slapper on December 11, 2023, 09:25:36 AM

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Only some of them or some of them can get a win when at the beginning of their involvement luck comes at the same time when they have a session, the title above is just a warning if in the first session of gambling you get a win then you should not easily believe and not say that all gamblers will get a win at the beginning of their involvement.
As you said, there are still many gamblers out there who have spent a lot of money but still have not won at all, and that is a big reason for the statement that "gambling is just about luck".

On the other hand, the warning made by the OP is very good, because lately I have seen that it is true that gamblers who put too much hope and confidence in income from gambling when in the early stages they can already get a win, the luck that comes at the beginning is like brainwashing them into assuming that "gambling is an effective way to earn" even though the initial victory is nothing more because at the same time luck also comes. So it is hoped that for you and those especially who have just come to better understand what gambling is along with the concept of victory and the risks that are there, it is very useful so that you are not carried away by negative currents and end up in a slump.

With hopes aglow in our hearts and fantasies of little victories sparkling in our eyes, we enter their territory. We tell ourselves, "It's my lucky day," as we hold our first, delicious victory, the beginner's trophy. The worst part is that it's a deceptive illusion, a trap. How many people have entered with their pockets full of beginner's luck only to emerge with their pockets empty? Infinite, my companion. Yes, we have seen them. The bright-eyed newcomers, telling stories of their "unbeatable" systems and "foolproof" techniques. Comedy gold!

And so, here's the paradox: we're tempted, are we not, even if we know better? It's intoxicating - the rush, the adrenaline. Let's not fool ourselves, though. We are the consenting marionettes of a master puppeteer, and that is gambling. They say the house always wins, and who are we to disagree? Therefore, let's remember to take a quick look in the mirror as we laugh at the naivete of others. Do we differ in any way?

The first win at the beginning of the engagement can indeed change the mindset of a gambler significantly, some people may consider that winning is a normal thing because they understand that they are in gambling activities which basically have wins and losses, but for some people who really have very high enthusiasm they will exaggerate it or mean that victory by creating many assumptions in their minds that can trigger the arrival of a high enough confidence. They like to build scenarios in their own minds to make them believe more in the results of gambling, none other than that because they are too exaggerated in responding to the first victory which ultimately makes them have high confidence and expectations, when in fact it is not based on common sense but only based on hallucinations, they like digging deeper holes to trap themselves.

A scenario that runs in the brain that is not based on awareness and not considered with common sense will produce something that will deceive yourself, in fact it is not the casino that deceives you but yourself and your own mindset that makes you feel disappointed in the end because the results are far from appropriate. I think understanding is one of the most important things here so that you are not misguided.

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Suppose in a gambling game that if someone wins the first time it creates a trap for gamblers who are confident of winning the next time. Gamblers should keep in mind that gambling takes luck and it is not always easy to win in gaming. It is better not to win but the addiction to winning is bad. Not all gambling strategies will work in their favor. That's why it will be easier to avoid the trap if you stop excessive gambling.

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There is no way to avoid it anyway, whatever plays out depends on the person, it is better if you don't win on your first time gaming, because you will feel how hard it could get to win in gambling, although it doesn't make a lot of difference but it's still way better than someone who win in their first gambling experience, this is bad for the long term as they will think it things will always work in their favour.

It's even more disturbing if the begginer don't have any exposure to how gambling really works or what other gblinv experiences have been in their past time, it's like saying you go into something you don't know anything about and you don't even bother to do any research, I believe that if beginners do their research about gambling, someone will tell them not to go into gambling and some will say it's fine, there will be few people that will warn them about addiction, and having that fear alone can make them gamble with care.

They will have to try as see, with what they can afford to lose, just to see what will happen, this is better than someone who just make up their mind that they can get rich with gambling and they risk any amount of money they can, even the type they have can't afford to lose.

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Quote from: barisbilgili on December 11, 2023, 10:19:56 PM

Quote from: Agbe on December 11, 2023, 06:28:37 PM

Yes, I agreed with you on the clause that, if a someone play a gamble and win for the first time, he would be excited and that excitement would lead him to a great loss because he has not really master the games and because of the win he would be motivated to play more games at all time to win big. But I didn't win my first attempt in gambling so I was not motivated to any game. I play my normal game whenever I visit a casino center be in the bar or hotel or Beach. Take gambling for only for fund then you will enjoy it. Many come to the gambling space because they have seen someone won big amount of money and they are coming there to play and win. And the opposite is found in them.

When someone wins the first gambling game they play, it will certainly make them interested in the gambling they are playing, but if they cannot control themselves in the game they are playing, it will certainly cause them to experience a lot of losses so that they spend a lot of money to be able to gamble.
It's true that it's better for us to enjoy playing than just winning at gambling and getting money and if we only focus on winning and money, of course we won't have time to enjoy the games we play.

The first win of a new gamble is like a trap from him to enter into gambling well. And if they loss they would lose interest to continue but will be willing to try their luck but if they win then they would be going there to win and not try their luck game again. The first lucky games is a motivation to new gamblers. And the funniest thing is that when they win at first and loss at second they would like to play continuously for having the hope that they are going to win their loss and that is the beginning of gambling addiction. And as I said earlier if one wants to enjoy gambling then play it for fun and not having the mindset to earn from it because if you put your mind on that then when you loss and you will be disappointed.

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Quote from: junder on December 12, 2023, 12:40:22 AM

The defeat that many gamblers get is a win for the bookie who always makes a profit for everyone who gambles. This cannot be opposed, it is difficult to beat the dealer's machine, even though the system is random, the big possibility is defeat, not victory.

I think that's what must be instilled into the minds of gamblers, no one can beat the dealer's machine, still the dealer will always win, even though gamblers often win in the first game but the habit of gamblers is often greedy with that win and tries to look for higher wins. Moreover, the winnings are not entirely his because if he continues to play the winnings and even the capital he has will continue to be drained.

Loss will always stick with any gambler, so we don't have to be surprised by that. As long as we can control ourselves so we don't get caught up in the games provided by the casino, maybe we can avoid losing a lot of money when gambling. The point is, don't be greedy when gambling, especially when you win the first game. Self-control when gambling is a way to continue gambling safely.

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Quote from: Renampun on December 12, 2023, 05:53:27 AM

The reason people first try gambling is because they heard that gambling is the best way to make money, maybe there will be a few wins at the beginning but in the end all they often get is defeat, gambling is something that really makes people addicted, those who can't resist themselves to gamble, it will only make them worse off in their gambling, there have been many cases where gamblers were given a win at the start but ended up going bankrupt due to running out of capital and debts that had accumulated due to gambling.

I agree that the reason some peoole start to gamble is because they see it as a way to make money, but I do not think they heard from people that they gamble and make money from it. Gambling is in the nature of humans as they will see it as a way of making money without anyone advising them. Another thing is that someone can first gamble and lose, but still thinking that he can use it to make money and continue to gamble and get addicted. Be it you win or lose at first time does not means anything.

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Quote from: _act_ on December 09, 2023, 01:25:46 PM

I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.

When someone is new to gambling, he has no good or bad experience with gambling. So if he luckily wins his first bets then he has a good experience with gambling and he thinks that he will win like this in the future even if he loses later he thinks that he can win again and recover these losses. Thinking this, he continued to gamble and suffered huge losses. And if someone loses at the beginning of the game, he first has a bad experience which reduces his interest in gambling and he does not become a serious gambler.

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Quote from: _act_ on December 09, 2023, 01:25:46 PM

I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.

The reason people first try gambling is because they heard that gambling is the best way to make money, maybe there will be a few wins at the beginning but in the end all they often get is defeat, gambling is something that really makes people addicted, those who can't resist themselves to gamble, it will only make them worse off in their gambling, there have been many cases where gamblers were given a win at the start but ended up going bankrupt due to running out of capital and debts that had accumulated due to gambling.

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For the first time many gamblers are wearing such traps in gambling. In the beginning they are very difficult to understand and those who are addicted are more affected. They do not understand the loss of their own thinking that they will get a huge amount of money for the first time, so they are more in the trap. The gambling will have to make money on an uncertain result as a bet. Many people argue that there is nothing wrong with gambling as long as the gambler's money is with themselves and he is addicted this is what we take to the gamblers addiction and the gamblers lose their control.

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I think that is really how gambling works. Without trap, the owner of the gambling site won't make any profit just by making odds in favor of the bettor. It all runs on codes maybe random or not so I think things could be staged and made it unnoticeable for gamblers to realize the truth about the dirty tricks casino owners embedded on their casino games like slots. First game win trap is a more effective trap we sometimes get into.

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Quote from: bettercrypto on December 11, 2023, 10:58:32 PM

Maybe it's a coincidence that those who play gambling for the first time are lucky enough to suddenly win gambling, so of course if you're a first-timer and that happens to you, you'll think it's good to gamble when you get lucky and win.

And usually also because what makes them feel is that he always has luck in his mind when he plays gambling, so that means he already has the mindset that he will come back to gamble again. That's his positive mindset toward gambling.

Those who are gambling for the first time have the possibility of winning and that has happened a lot to people who are new to gambling. They might think that playing gambling is easy and they can win, but in reality, that won't be the case because in the second gambling game, they might experience loss and that could cause them to lose all their money.

Those who feel that playing gambling is easy and can win will feel disappointed because gambling is not what they expected. As they get more and more losses, it doesn't make them realize it. Instead, they want to win more and more. And that will result in them gambling more often instead of trying to control themselves and limit themselves from gambling.

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Quote from: piebeyb on December 11, 2023, 09:54:31 AM

Quote from: junder on December 11, 2023, 09:40:12 AM

And of course this will be detrimental to themselves where they have been made confident by the victory they got at the beginning. and make it a good start, even though everything is reversed. the initial victory is defeat.

The thing that should not be done when gambling is not to be too confident in winning at the start because that can lead anyone to defeat. It is true what you said that an initial win is a loss that is not expected by all gamblers, I mean beginner gamblers because they are usually too confident and confident in the victory they just got for the first time they played.

There are many cases where casinos play with people's feelings to find out their character and how they play gambling, therefore the dealer never experiences defeat and always wins in the end, gamblers will only become losers and addicts if they can't really control those feelings at the first win. they get, it really is a trap that every novice gambler must understand.

It's not wrong to be confident in something, but if we are too confident, that's not good, it can lead to mistakes that will create chaos. Yes, that's right, beginning gamblers or beginners are usually too self-confident so they believe that the actions they take are correct, where after they lose they still gamble with full confidence that they will win again, not realizing that in my opinion they are trapped in gambling because of the initial victory they get which makes them too confident.

The defeat that many gamblers get is a win for the bookie who always makes a profit for everyone who gambles. This cannot be opposed, it is difficult to beat the dealer's machine, even though the system is random, the big possibility is defeat, not victory.

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Maybe it's a coincidence that those who play gambling for the first time are lucky enough to suddenly win gambling, so of course if you're a first-timer and that happens to you, you'll think it's good to gamble when you get lucky and win.

And usually also because what makes them feel is that he always has luck in his mind when he plays gambling, so that means he already has the mindset that he will come back to gamble again. That's his positive mindset toward gambling.

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