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Topic: Gamblers should not believe in first game win trap - page 4. (Read 1136 times)

legendary
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.

This is probably one of the most important tips for those who are interested in gambling. What I mean is to always remember that gambling is a way to make money and that you should use money that you can afford to lose. Because of this, many problems have arisen and will continue to arise for people. They use money they can't afford to lose to make money.
I think that in general it doesn’t matter if a person wins money for the first time or loses it, if he can’t control himself then it’s better not to play at all
Really very very basic but it turns out that tons of people do really mess up their lives because they cant really just follow this simple rules or simple ideas on how gambling should be treated up.
There are ones who could be able to take such control, there are ones who would really be that having no care at all and this is why they would really be falling out into a condition on which they would really be having that kind of impression that gambling could make them rich until the time comes that they would mess up and this is where regrets and realizations would happen.
Lets try our very best on not to end up with this kind of miserable situation because if you do really have this kind of approach and beliefs in mind then it would really be just making you desperate.
If you are someone whose really that mindful and really that responsible on dealing up with gambling then you wont really be finding yourself on such trouble. People do usually ending up on a disaster
if they would really be starting on creating or molding those kind of impressions and beliefs that they could make themselves rich with gambling.Yes, there's a probability but it is really that close to impossible
because of house edge and other factors on which it would really be putting up gambler on a huge disadvantage.

This is why tons of people who do destroy out their lives with gambling because of having those kind of hopes on which this is something that need to get rid of with.
You cant make yourself that get easily rich with gambling because it would really be requiring that extreme luck factor on which it could make things possible.
Important thing is that you wont really be trying out to chase on being lucky and just simply play the game and enjoy it.
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If you gamble first and win then you will save your mental energy and then you will gamble again and thus you will eventually become a daily gambler. We know it's not dangerous at first but when you go to the hopper again and again then it becomes reality. My younger brother is betting online and i searched his ID where most of the winning stories were but i fell behind him. On the other hand winning or losing the first time is not what makes them addictive but when you win fast the first time you make it addictiv.
I would say this is not entirely accurate, a first timer in gambling and the luckily scoffing out a win are not those that get addicted, but I will say addiction is caused on the kind of mindset you set out to it. One thing that gets one addicted to gambling is when you don’t treat it as a game but a platform where you must get rich, people look at other people’s winning story and then go into gambling from one game to another and That’s how the addiction goes on. Although some first timers are lure in by the first game but not all of them
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If you gamble first and win then you will save your mental energy and then you will gamble again and thus you will eventually become a daily gambler. We know it's not dangerous at first but when you go to the hopper again and again then it becomes reality. My younger brother is betting online and i searched his ID where most of the winning stories were but i fell behind him. On the other hand winning or losing the first time is not what makes them addictive but when you win fast the first time you make it addictiv.
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So, strategies are a recipe for disaster, those who apply strategies like the martingale or anything to recover the losses or win more will end up losing everything eventually because the house will always have an edge over the gambler and there is no way one can win over the house in a gambling game.
It depends on the games because if you talking about strategy in line with football games you will have a high tendency to win your bet easily if you know the analysis of the clubs and what their performance has been in the last couple of games, this is what makes the difference at most times, but yes based on in house games, there may not be workable strategy unless for some few skills-based games and skills-luck based games in few games also.
But with football,  you have the upper hand to speculate and analyze the market at whatever time, many time we select our winning teams based on their performance and statistic, like in the various leagues, we have all the player's information and also the clubs' positions so this information helps us to make better-informed decisions when selecting our games.
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.

This is probably one of the most important tips for those who are interested in gambling. What I mean is to always remember that gambling is a way to make money and that you should use money that you can afford to lose. Because of this, many problems have arisen and will continue to arise for people. They use money they can't afford to lose to make money.
I think that in general it doesn’t matter if a person wins money for the first time or loses it, if he can’t control himself then it’s better not to play at all
Really very very basic but it turns out that tons of people do really mess up their lives because they cant really just follow this simple rules or simple ideas on how gambling should be treated up.
There are ones who could be able to take such control, there are ones who would really be that having no care at all and this is why they would really be falling out into a condition on which they would really be having that kind of impression that gambling could make them rich until the time comes that they would mess up and this is where regrets and realizations would happen.
Lets try our very best on not to end up with this kind of miserable situation because if you do really have this kind of approach and beliefs in mind then it would really be just making you desperate.
legendary
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Often the casino gives a win the first time, so that a person believes in his strength and continue to play further, not too worried about the size of bets and subsequent losses. It is best to take the winnings and stop playing for a while to listen to your inner voice and realize whether it is worth continuing. There is no need to hurry
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

If not talking about the first time loss gamblers that later become addicted, what you are saying is not completely true. If we can do a survey of gamblers that won or lost in their first game, the people that will chose won can not be 100%. They might not be 70%. It may be 50%. Some people will gamble for the first time and lose and continue to gamble. The main reason is because they think gambling is a way money can be made. Unless they change their the way they think about gambling, that gambling is is not a money making means, first time win or loss is not necessarily the cause of their addiction.

Gamble with the money you can lose.

This is probably one of the most important tips for those who are interested in gambling. What I mean is to always remember that gambling is a way to make money and that you should use money that you can afford to lose. Because of this, many problems have arisen and will continue to arise for people. They use money they can't afford to lose to make money.
I think that in general it doesn’t matter if a person wins money for the first time or loses it, if he can’t control himself then it’s better not to play at all
sr. member
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Well, I think in every experience of a person whenever they win something or even receive a prize, they would eventually retry it as they would expect it to happen twice. What's more when it comes to gambling especially when it involves money, let's be honest people are greedy and once they have tasted the win, they desire more. Still, we all know what are the possible outcomes if you continue gambling which favors the casino itself, since it's a 50/50 situation which is win and lose, there is also a chance that the person would keep continuing gambling and some would make a profit and go home with extra money. The only solution for you to stop this is to know your limit and have a target value for you to stop gambling.
legendary
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I believe that we call this as the "cycle of gambling" where a gambler is stuck on this endless loop of winning/losing.

When a gambler wins, their initial reaction is to gamble again and to try if their luck would continue. Unfortunately when they lose a game, also, their initial reaction is to recover such loss by gambling again their winnings. This creates an endless cycle of win/lose depending on the outcome if the gambler fails to control the urge to play.

In order to at least pacify this problem, the recommended solution here is to allocate a certain budget whenever a person gambles. For example, if you plan on gambling today, limit your time by bringing a specific amount of budget to avoid any kind of over-expenditure that can surely prevent you from experiencing a losing streak.

Yes, limiting the budget and time of gambling is really necessary and it is very important to minimize all unwanted things such as maybe preventing us from running out of money too much just because of curiosity and making re-deposits, but on the other hand unfortunately not all gamblers can do that and maybe it is one of the things that is very difficult to do or apply by gamblers, the fact is that even though they have implemented such planning for a safer approach in fact it cannot be denied that there will always be times when they break it.

Of course, one of the reasons why they assume to put money back even after winning is because of the explosion of endorphins that fill all parts of the brain which indirectly encourages them to try again to be able to get the same sensation with a larger amount of winnings, will it happen? No, as you said that most gamblers will end up tragically if they put excessive actions is a fact and is common. Likewise with losing, it's simply like this "winning is addictive and losing is curious" that makes them greedy and unable to accept the risks that occur.
hero member
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I believe that we call this as the "cycle of gambling" where a gambler is stuck on this endless loop of winning/losing.

When a gambler wins, their initial reaction is to gamble again and to try if their luck would continue. Unfortunately when they lose a game, also, their initial reaction is to recover such loss by gambling again their winnings. This creates an endless cycle of win/lose depending on the outcome if the gambler fails to control the urge to play.

In order to at least pacify this problem, the recommended solution here is to allocate a certain budget whenever a person gambles. For example, if you plan on gambling today, limit your time by bringing a specific amount of budget to avoid any kind of over-expenditure that can surely prevent you from experiencing a losing streak.
legendary
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Suppose in a gambling game that if someone wins the first time it creates a trap for gamblers who are confident of winning the next time. Gamblers should keep in mind that gambling takes luck and it is not always easy to win in gaming. It is better not to win but the addiction to winning is bad. Not all gambling strategies will work in their favor. That's why it will be easier to avoid the trap if you stop excessive gambling.
When we talk about gambling games, there are no working *STRATEGIES* that can make someone win or save them from excessive losses apart from the strategy of stopping when the time is right. Gambling games and strategies are two contradicting things, you can't expect to get an upper hand in a gambling game by using a certain strategy when you already know that the outcome will be based on your luck and your applied strategy cannot change that.

So, strategies are a recipe for disaster, those who apply strategies like the martingale or anything to recover the losses or win more will end up losing everything eventually because the house will always have an edge over the gambler and there is no way one can win over the house in a gambling game.
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I think whether a newcomer wins or loses in gambling doesn't significantly impact whether they continue and potentially develop an addiction. Whether they win or lose, there's a rationale to keep playing. If they win, they might see it as a money-making opportunity, so why not continue? At worst, they've lost the money they just won. If they lose, they might continue to try to recover their losses. Don't you agree that hardly anyone walks away after a loss without that psychological drive to try to make up for it?

The casinos often let new players win in the initial rounds; it's a strategy to attract and hook new players. Once you step into the game, you're drawn in, and addiction can happen at any time. The key is how you control your gambling, not whether you win or lose the first time.
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     -   If they won gambling, that means he got lucky. I couldn't say that this is a winning trap; maybe it depends on the gambler who won and how he treats it. Because, in my experience, it was not a trap for me.
Gamblers are trapped in their thoughts so that when the gambler starts to lose, they think that the casino has trapped them, but it's not, because the choice is in the gambler's hands to keep playing or stop even though the results are quite good at the beginning of his introduction to gambling.
I never feel trapped by my initial winnings at gambling but often end up losing all my money in online casinos because it's hard to stop on that day, like yesterday when playing a slot that I had just played for the first time and a few rounds gave me a big win and decided to stop playing but just persisted just an hour or two and finally return to the game and lose everything, so it's not the casino that traps us but our minds.

For the problem of traps, it seems that it is more specialized only for those who have divergent goals and perspectives on gambling, or that means coming with goals and intentions that are not recommended. Of course, for the problem of "traps" it will really come back to someone when they get a win in the session they are doing, but usually gamblers especially those who come with the intention of earning always can't help but feel all the excessive feelings that are in their minds, the sensation they feel in such a situation is truly extraordinary and it seems to be able to cover all the disappointments of losing in the previous few sessions.

Instead of thinking that it was a break-even point that they managed to reach and after that quit by going home with the winnings but what is more likely and usually happens is like what you experienced, assuming that it is a good opportunity to make more is the idea that arises or comes out of your head when such situations come and that assumption comes and controls your mind unconsciously, that's what makes it difficult for you to stop and eventually even suffer defeat by losing all the money you have won earlier. Of course it is not the casino that traps you but your hopes and expectations are too high that make you disappointed and regretful, I think this is the initial scenario before you enter the addiction.
legendary
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Winning and losing are normal things, but the most important thing is not to get caught up in winning for the first time because usually gamblers are given winnings to beginners to continue carrying out their activities in gambling. If they can't control themselves then the gambler can become bolder in betting in the hope of being able to win bigger, as a gambler you must be aware that winning is something that is difficult to achieve. Beginner gamblers must first learn about the risks of gambling. If they are stuck on their first win, the longer they will find it difficult to control themselves and risk losing more money.

And in fact it is a trick in casinos, various kinds of games are put out by bookies with the aim of attracting the attention of gamblers, and if the gambler is weak in his mastery then of course he will be easily tempted or trapped in the trick. . If they are trapped too deep it will be difficult to get out and of course they will often experience defeat and lose a lot of money.




This will help their emotions and allow what they know about gambling to be effectively utilized without emotions altering it. And no matter the results of their first bet, they should not panic as this often determines the results of the subsequent bets in most cases. This calls for gamblers to have their actual plans even before starting at all, and never bet the games that will exhaust their money at once regardless of what the assurance is or what the outcome could be.

In other words, emotions will change when a person has had an experience that is very valuable for him, then he will be aware of what behavior he should carry out after having that experience, whether he is still emotional but just wasting his energy and thoughts or learning to suppress it. emotions so that they are not too fatal and try to improve them to be even better in the future and apart from that, self-awareness is also needed to perfect this behavior, if there is no self-awareness it will be in vain and the results will not match our expectations.
They would really be doing all sorts of things on just to make everything look interesting and fancy as much as possible because this would really be their primary goals of these platforms or companies on which their
main goal is to have more revenue out of those gamblers who are really that becoming impulsive basing up on the things that they've been experiencing on which it is really that true that it is really that a some sort of trap
on which if you wont really be that making yourself that careful then you are most likely you would really be putting up yourself on such danger on spending up more and this is something that you should really be wary and be careful because once you do get yourself blinded by greed then this is where mistakes would really be happening.

First win trap? If you are a person who is really that emotionally impulsive then you would really be finding out yourself to be on a situation or condition on which you might really be that
ending up miserable or devastated when it comes to finances just because you do make out some actions on which it doesnt really supposed to be that on that way.
Some people do have  that kind of control towards their actions and there are ones who do really make some toleration on the things that they do believe
or trying to push out to work.
legendary
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There are literally places that makes people win their first ever game, and gives them a good return, it's designed that way, but they do put a rollover in there, so that means you end up gambling and winning so you think you are going to keep winning and you lose until you could withdraw. It makes people see that there is a possibility of winning and keep doing it more, when you have very little money left they still make you win, so that you do not end up leaving completely but then you eventually lose, that win streak in the middle is what makes you think it's possible.

So all in all, there are many places that try to scam people and should be something that we all care about and be worried about as well, these people do not directly steal your money, they end up making it look like you have lost that money during the regular period and not really look at it like you have done something wrong, and that's why many people do not realize they are getting scammed.
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     -   If they won gambling, that means he got lucky. I couldn't say that this is a winning trap; maybe it depends on the gambler who won and how he treats it. Because, in my experience, it was not a trap for me.
Gamblers are trapped in their thoughts so that when the gambler starts to lose, they think that the casino has trapped them, but it's not, because the choice is in the gambler's hands to keep playing or stop even though the results are quite good at the beginning of his introduction to gambling.
I never feel trapped by my initial winnings at gambling but often end up losing all my money in online casinos because it's hard to stop on that day, like yesterday when playing a slot that I had just played for the first time and a few rounds gave me a big win and decided to stop playing but just persisted just an hour or two and finally return to the game and lose everything, so it's not the casino that traps us but our minds.
legendary
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The reason people first try gambling is because they heard that gambling is the best way to make money, maybe there will be a few wins at the beginning but in the end all they often get is defeat, gambling is something that really makes people addicted, those who can't resist themselves to gamble, it will only make them worse off in their gambling, there have been many cases where gamblers were given a win at the start but ended up going bankrupt due to running out of capital and debts that had accumulated due to gambling.
I do not think that it's the "best" way of making money, but many thing it is the "easiest" way of making money. That has always been the issue and I think it will continue to be issue on the long run as well. I get that you are not going to end up with anything that is special, you are not going to end up with anything that will gain you any attention neither, but if you keep doing what you do then you are going to end up with a good result one way or another.

We are talking about easiest as in if you gamble once and put it all in and put it at a risky stuff, like 1% chance to win then you are going to end up winning a HUGE return if you win, but the most likely outcome (literally 99% of the time) you will lose it all. So while it looks like the easiest way of making money, it's also the easiest way to lose money as well and majority of the people do end up losing money very quickly and they lose even more trying to recover from that at the same time.
"That's the easiest way to make money," is a common saying. But let's flip that coin and see its other side. The house always wins, doesn't it? You've got it exactly right: the deck is stacked against us. It's alluring to have a 1% chance of striking it rich, but what about the 99% probability of leaving empty-handed? It's a classic risk vs reward situation where the risk frequently wears a mask of invisibility.

Aren't we funny animals, humans? We become addicted to the surge of adrenaline that comes from "almost winning." Our big win dream turns into a stick-on carrot. The problem is that the pursuit is never-ending. It's not just about losing money, as you pointed out, but also about losing more in an aimless attempt to make up for losses. Not only does the money suffer in this high-stakes game, but the spirit also suffers. And that's the actual risk, my friend.
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I noticed there has been some topics about how first time winning is dangerous. What I am saying is someone that has not gamble before, to gamble and win. That it is dangerous. Yes it may be dangerous because the person may have the exciting mind to gamble more  and lose. But that is not the whole true story.

The truth of the matter is that, the zeal to continue gambling after a winning or loss varies from one individual to the other, and as such, the results of such variations can never always be truly trusted alone as the determining factor to knowing who gets addicted in gambling in a long run or not. However, other factors which makes people get addicted to gambling is the environment or peer group a person finds his or herself, as it plays a major role more than first winning.
legendary
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It all depends on the individual person, as a result of someone being addicted to gambling because they cannot control their desire to play. Someone can be addicted to gambling at first because they have experienced winning. Regardless of the first win or after several losses, but as a result of feeling that the win is still not big enough, he will continue to play to achieve a bigger win than he has ever won.
What gamblers often experience when they want to get a bigger win is that they lose their previously won win. When in this situation, the thinking of gambling addicts starts to become active, if at first they can win, of course they can win again. The result of this thinking makes it increasingly difficult for a person to control their emotions and becomes more addicted to wanting to win.
Maybe. This kind of thing always depends on how mentally prepared a person is or if he is in dire need of money.
Most gambling addicts came from the poor section and when you think of it, it's scary. Given that a trap was set to make him win the first time, it will depend on what his next move will be. He can run away and just enjoy the profits or he could give it one more try to try and increase the profits. But we all know that greediness is not a good thing because the gambling site will always try to win it back no matter what. Forget RNG, or Provably fair because those things do not really exist in my opinion. Try betting 10k - 20k bets and you will see how cruel it can be. IMO, there's a system in which all our winnings are listed or everything is already set for us to lose.
The only way to take advantage of a profit is when you withdraw, playing more will end up with our profits taken back and even the capital that we trying to protect.
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     -   If they won gambling, that means he got lucky. I couldn't say that this is a winning trap; maybe it depends on the gambler who won and how he treats it. Because, in my experience, it was not a trap for me.

Why are you OP? Did you say it was a trap for you because you became addicted to gambling? It really depends on the individual gambler if you allow it to be a trap for you, right? I have been gambling for a long time, but I have never become addicted to it. So, the first time I won, gambling was not a trap for me.
Yes, sometimes it is a fact that when you create a new account or become a new user you will usually be given a win for the first time, what OP means is that it is not a trap if I usually say that it is like a machine reading the character of a player's behavior, but I don't mean to accuse all casinos of doing that and controlling the machine. them, indeed sometimes I often try to play at several casinos, it's always like that, if I continue playing it means I'm a greedy person and the machine knows how to beat me.

But for smart people, maybe when they get their first win, they immediately withdraw it and then leave, look for a new site that has a reputation so that it will be safe to play again using a new account there, but that's just my impression because everyone has different views, as you said. Also, the issue of addiction comes back to each individual and not to the intended trap. for me it is a choice that must be chosen when winning the first time, continue or stop.  Grin

I see your point, and it was also right were I agreed on what you just said. Actually, we gamblers have our own interpretation of how to manage a casino where we will gamble. There are only two types of gamblers. The responsible gambler and the greedy gambler.

Now, it is up to us to choose which of these two we want when we play gambling here in crypto gambling. So what you are saying is true and right, my friend. That's why we should not just be gamblers, but instead we should also have hidden intelligence as players in a casino.
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