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September 11, 2023, 05:26:22 PM
Isn't it a little strange that we try to hide our mistakes? It's natural to try to protect kids from your mistakes, but talking about them can be a good way to learn from them

About parents who have gambled in the past: Aren't both good and bad situations a powerful way to learn? Instead of putting a veil over the dice and cards, it might be more effective to look into the consequences. Still, gambling isn't just about losing money. It's about broken relationships, different goals, and a different path in life. Providing a clear plan with a list of potential problems could be the lighthouse that young people need
Everyone has their own opinion when it comes to hiding their gambling, if you think it's the right thing to tell our children about the gambling we did when we were teenagers, I don't blame you for that. However, I think teenagers are very vulnerable to bad things, they are still looking for something that makes them comfortable and cannot control their emotions and control themselves. If teenagers know what their parents do with gambling, for example, they will most likely be curious and want to learn about gambling, so this is what parents fear when their teenage children start to follow in their parents' footsteps in gambling. .
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September 11, 2023, 11:25:11 AM
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Yes, that's right, adolescence is a time when they are still looking for their identity, even though they are still vulnerable to negative things without the help of parental supervision, this is very dangerous for teenagers in the future.
Yes, good and correct educational guidance from parents to their teenage children is very important because it is from parents that they learn and become role models for their behavior. If there are some parents who have been involved in gambling, it is better to just keep quiet and not tell about it to their children or another step is to provide an understanding that gambling will indeed have a bad impact on someone, for example we will lose all our money and some will be ostracized from beloved family due to the consequences of gambling.
Isn't it a little strange that we try to hide our mistakes? It's natural to try to protect kids from your mistakes, but talking about them can be a good way to learn from them

About parents who have gambled in the past: Aren't both good and bad situations a powerful way to learn? Instead of putting a veil over the dice and cards, it might be more effective to look into the consequences. Still, gambling isn't just about losing money. It's about broken relationships, different goals, and a different path in life. Providing a clear plan with a list of potential problems could be the lighthouse that young people need
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September 11, 2023, 08:47:19 AM
I think the mother knows what is best for her child, so for now I support what the mother is doing, it would be good for the child to obey her, at least until he finishes school and gets his own job.

If the mother does not understand the risks and rewards of gambling, she doesn't know what's best. The fact that she doesn't want her son to gamble means she is afraid of taking risks and doesn't see gambling as a positive activity that could potentially lead to problems in the future. The problem with the older generation is that they stick too much to old beliefs. They don't understand that the world is constantly evolving, things are changing, and innovation is happening. So, I guess there's nothing wrong with a person of the right age gambling, as long as they do it responsibly.
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September 11, 2023, 06:42:35 AM
I spoke to my nephew and he told me that he has never stolen from his mother to gamble. And he gambles with only his savings from his weekly stipend he receives from the family. And he won't gamble if he has no savings to do that. From my observation, he is a responsible gambler that is just enjoying the game and making a little money occasionally. The gambling age in my country is 18+, but his mother is insisting that he must stop. What will be your advice for this young boy?

Although he now appears to be taking responsibility for his gambling activities, there is no guarantee he will be able to do so in the future. As long as he hasn't worked then it's something dangerous. If he becomes a gambling addict, he will most likely steal money to gamble. I think it's better to prevent him from gambling until he can get his own money/job.

I think the mother knows what is best for her child, so for now I support what the mother is doing, it would be good for the child to obey her, at least until he finishes school and gets his own job.
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September 11, 2023, 05:28:30 AM
It is definitely a problem when a teenager is gambling with money that is not even theirs, however most of the time this is just part of what being a teenager is about, as when we were that age we did all kind of crazy things that when we think about it the first thing that comes to our minds is what were we thinking? However an adult that is also in that situation is a completely different thing, as they are immersed in a very unhealthy dynamic with their family by not earning their own money at that age.
That's exactly the point, so IMO, no blame to cast here. As a teenager, you can get some pocket money from your parents, or you could even have some rich uncles and aunts that can give you anything you want as long as you just ask them for money, they can give you. Yeah, it is quite understood that teens do some sort of crazy stuff and cannot really take the blame for all. As a teen, you can decide to do anything with the pocket money you receive, whether you use it to buy some snacks, play video games, or gamble. The reason is that you are not yet old enough to be dependent on yourself or start making your own money. But for an adult, it does not make any sense to still be fully dependent while the person is not disabled. Perhaps the person is physically and mentally fit but just too lazy to work, make money, and use their money to do whatever they please.
Basically, the word "dependent" makes it sound like you are incapable of making money, but there are other ways too. Like for example your father may have 100 houses that he rents out, or he owns a huge factor that makes millions of dollars, that makes you not needing to work, if you have millions of dollars worth of income, and your father gives you 100-200k a month, why would you work? If you do not want to, then you do not have to and that is totally understandable without a doubt.

However, at the very same time, we are talking about a situation that would be different if parents are forcing themselves if they are trying to look after you, that's not what I mean. In the end, I agree that teenagers makes mistakes, that's understandable.
@tygeade, you just said the truth of it all. Nowadays, some people don't want to work, but they want to receive a daily, weekly or even monthly salary, and this is not a helping hand at all, because of some of the things that they can do to help themselves, some will not do it, but depending on their family property and it is a very bad idea, there are some youths that it planing to be more better and richer than their father (family as a whole) and if you see those set if people they are trying their possible best to make sure that they be of a good help in their family and even in the society as well, some parents after looking out for their children and when the children have gotten to an age they will just stop looking after them in terms of financial assistance but the parents will always give the children a good advise so they will not make wrong decisions, and the child will go and make hes own money and not to depend on people things, some of this children end up making their own money and good names in the society.

However, most children that their parents have given money end up using it to gamble and not to save or making even small investments, just because they are not working to get the money.
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September 11, 2023, 12:49:07 AM
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Yes, good and correct educational guidance from parents to their teenage children is very important because it is from parents that they learn and become role models for their behavior. If there are some parents who have been involved in gambling, it is better to just keep quiet and not tell about it to their children or another step is to provide an understanding that gambling will indeed have a bad impact on someone, for example we will lose all our money and some will be ostracized from beloved family due to the consequences of gambling.

That's true, because adolescence is a vulnerable period and if there are bad things that parents show their children during this period, it might become something that will lead them into trouble in the future. For example, gambling, if parents gamble quite often and they show that to their children, it is very likely that the children will imitate and think that gambling at their age is not a problem and the chances that this child will become addicted will probably be even greater.
That's why it's important to set a good example for children and it's best to give them good education about things like gambling, drugs, etc., to prevent them from getting caught up in things like this.
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September 11, 2023, 12:34:43 AM
If parents find out that their child has started gambling, they must provide more understanding and a different approach. Their children must be guided to stop gambling before it is too late and their parents cannot save their lives.
True. There's a money involved in gambling so even our kid says they're just playing for fun, we can't help but to worry. It's just right to explain and if possible make them stop playing since gambling is not suited for students who are still depending on their parents.
If our child says he is only playing for fun, we must immediately warn him and invite him to talk to find out why they are gambling. They can have fun doing other things with their friends instead of gambling. We are only worried if they lose control of themselves when gambling, which will make them waste their money. Teenagers like that are prone to losing self-control, which can have a bad impact on them.

With the approach parents take, they can slowly make their children aware that what they do is not good for their mental health. The presence of his parents in guiding him out of gambling can help him to leave gambling and never gamble again.
For now, he need to stop his gambling activity and focus on his studies. But it doesn't mean he can't gamble in the future anymore. Because once he's settled, earning a stable income and already know what's right or wrong, he can decide for himself. In time, he will understand his mother if he already have a family and became a parent.
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We are the ones who must be able to persuade him to stop his gambling activities before it is too late. And we also have to give them an understanding of what impact playing gambling, even losing self-control, has on them and what could happen in the future. And even though he is established and knows what is right or wrong, we still need to monitor him because he is our child and we don't want to see our child get into trouble. Don't let his gambling habit give him problems when he has a family and becomes a parent later. That's why we as parents must be able to look after him well and provide good understanding.
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September 10, 2023, 08:10:14 PM

Therefore, we should not take advantage of the sincerity of our parents, such as using pocket money for gambling, obviously it is a bad act. Honestly I don't understand those who do it, but in my opinion if the child has a good personality and knows how to appreciate then I think something like that will not happen, I mean they will not be able to use their pocket money for gambling. I think whether you're using your own money or your parents' money, it's definitely not a good idea to spend it on gambling, it's better not to do it at all.

Teenage age is a really complicated time of the young persons. They want to have a feel of so many things around them. Just like toddlers that you try to prevent from crawling to dangerous environment but they will keep going back there. So this is synonymous to the actions of a young person and this is why they need to be properly guided so that they won't be mislead .

Parents need to teach their children on the good, the bad and their effects but we also know that the children learn faster from what they see their parents doing so the first place of control is the parents not to exibit character not worthy to be emulate. If a parent is a gambler of course the child could likely be emulating that especially if the parent is unconsciously lose about that by not taking precautions of hiding it from the child.
Yes, that's right, adolescence is a time when they are still looking for their identity, even though they are still vulnerable to negative things without the help of parental supervision, this is very dangerous for teenagers in the future.
Yes, good and correct educational guidance from parents to their teenage children is very important because it is from parents that they learn and become role models for their behavior. If there are some parents who have been involved in gambling, it is better to just keep quiet and not tell about it to their children or another step is to provide an understanding that gambling will indeed have a bad impact on someone, for example we will lose all our money and some will be ostracized from beloved family due to the consequences of gambling.
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September 10, 2023, 07:32:59 PM
It is definitely a problem when a teenager is gambling with money that is not even theirs, however most of the time this is just part of what being a teenager is about, as when we were that age we did all kind of crazy things that when we think about it the first thing that comes to our minds is what were we thinking? However an adult that is also in that situation is a completely different thing, as they are immersed in a very unhealthy dynamic with their family by not earning their own money at that age.
That's exactly the point, so IMO, no blame to cast here. As a teenager, you can get some pocket money from your parents, or you could even have some rich uncles and aunts that can give you anything you want as long as you just ask them for money, they can give you. Yeah, it is quite understood that teens do some sort of crazy stuff and cannot really take the blame for all. As a teen, you can decide to do anything with the pocket money you receive, whether you use it to buy some snacks, play video games, or gamble. The reason is that you are not yet old enough to be dependent on yourself or start making your own money. But for an adult, it does not make any sense to still be fully dependent while the person is not disabled. Perhaps the person is physically and mentally fit but just too lazy to work, make money, and use their money to do whatever they please.
Basically, the word "dependent" makes it sound like you are incapable of making money, but there are other ways too. Like for example your father may have 100 houses that he rents out, or he owns a huge factor that makes millions of dollars, that makes you not needing to work, if you have millions of dollars worth of income, and your father gives you 100-200k a month, why would you work? If you do not want to, then you do not have to and that is totally understandable without a doubt.

However, at the very same time, we are talking about a situation that would be different if parents are forcing themselves if they are trying to look after you, that's not what I mean. In the end, I agree that teenagers makes mistakes, that's understandable.
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September 10, 2023, 08:07:24 AM
It is definitely a problem when a teenager is gambling with money that is not even theirs, however most of the time this is just part of what being a teenager is about, as when we were that age we did all kind of crazy things that when we think about it the first thing that comes to our minds is what were we thinking? However an adult that is also in that situation is a completely different thing, as they are immersed in a very unhealthy dynamic with their family by not earning their own money at that age.

That's exactly the point, so IMO, no blame to cast here. As a teenager, you can get some pocket money from your parents, or you could even have some rich uncles and aunts that can give you anything you want as long as you just ask them for money, they can give you. Yeah, it is quite understood that teens do some sort of crazy stuff and cannot really take the blame for all. As a teen, you can decide to do anything with the pocket money you receive, whether you use it to buy some snacks, play video games, or gamble. The reason is that you are not yet old enough to be dependent on yourself or start making your own money. But for an adult, it does not make any sense to still be fully dependent while the person is not disabled. Perhaps the person is physically and mentally fit but just too lazy to work, make money, and use their money to do whatever they please.
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September 10, 2023, 04:51:11 AM
In fact, the issue is much more acute than it seems at first glance. The student's mother is worried about what gambling can lead to for her son, because he has no regular income, and she is well aware that gambling requires money.

I would advise this guy to quit gambling and save his mother's psychological health, or to find a part-time job and spend the money he earns as he sees fit. In this case, the guy will have a job and his mother will not worry.

It is good when relatives know what you are into and watch for changes in your behavior.
I believe quitting gambling would be an easier thing for him since he is too young at the moment and managing his studies and a job will be very difficult for him as he isn't mature enough to be able to do that and he has a lot to learn for now. So his mother must make him sit with her, let him know how much she cares for him, and that what he is doing isn't good for him in the long run and she doesn't want him to go on that path as that can affect his future.

I'm pretty sure that the guy will understand if his mother does it with love because there is nothing more powerful than the love of a mother in the whole world. So, I believe it's his mother who can actually help him get out of gambling and get into his usual routine and life with his family.
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September 10, 2023, 04:32:26 AM

Therefore, we should not take advantage of the sincerity of our parents, such as using pocket money for gambling, obviously it is a bad act. Honestly I don't understand those who do it, but in my opinion if the child has a good personality and knows how to appreciate then I think something like that will not happen, I mean they will not be able to use their pocket money for gambling. I think whether you're using your own money or your parents' money, it's definitely not a good idea to spend it on gambling, it's better not to do it at all.

Teenage age is a really complicated time of the young persons. They want to have a feel of so many things around them. Just like toddlers that you try to prevent from crawling to dangerous environment but they will keep going back there. So this is synonymous to the actions of a young person and this is why they need to be properly guided so that they won't be mislead .

Parents need to teach their children on the good, the bad and their effects but we also know that the children learn faster from what they see their parents doing so the first place of control is the parents not to exibit character not worthy to be emulate. If a parent is a gambler of course the child could likely be emulating that especially if the parent is unconsciously lose about that by not taking precautions of hiding it from the child.
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September 10, 2023, 04:16:07 AM
Therefore, we should not take advantage of the sincerity of our parents, such as using pocket money for gambling, obviously it is a bad act. Honestly I don't understand those who do it, but in my opinion if the child has a good personality and knows how to appreciate then I think something like that will not happen, I mean they will not be able to use their pocket money for gambling. I think whether you're using your own money or your parents' money, it's definitely not a good idea to spend it on gambling, it's better not to do it at all.

I think this happens mostly during the teenage stage, and at that time, the kid is not yet working or earning from anywhere, so they are just yet dependent on their parents, and some of these kids go gambling with their pocket money because they believe they can make more money. But for a full-grown adult to still rely on their parents for every one of their needs and yet still gamble with the money they are getting from their parents or their guidance, then it's wrong. Gambling at such an age should be done with money that you worked for, not another person's money that was gifted to you. While I was still in university, my parents would handle almost all my bills, and I still gambled with the money I got from them, but now I am making some money and I can do whatever I want with my money.

Those children didn't get scared too much about losing money because they knew the possibility they could seek for the parent's money and of course, the parents will give them and those children becomes now dependent with their gambling habit, if they lose all of their allowance they don't need to hesitate because they can get another, but if the parents know already the gambling habit of them there's a chance they limit now the funds they are giving to prevent their child addicted on this game. Better if the parents give a lesson to their child if they want to pursue this habit they must need to earn those money they are using to play to let them realize its a hard earned money and not just for entertainment.
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September 10, 2023, 03:57:47 AM
Therefore, we should not take advantage of the sincerity of our parents, such as using pocket money for gambling, obviously it is a bad act. Honestly I don't understand those who do it, but in my opinion if the child has a good personality and knows how to appreciate then I think something like that will not happen, I mean they will not be able to use their pocket money for gambling. I think whether you're using your own money or your parents' money, it's definitely not a good idea to spend it on gambling, it's better not to do it at all.

I think this happens mostly during the teenage stage, and at that time, the kid is not yet working or earning from anywhere, so they are just yet dependent on their parents, and some of these kids go gambling with their pocket money because they believe they can make more money. But for a full-grown adult to still rely on their parents for every one of their needs and yet still gamble with the money they are getting from their parents or their guidance, then it's wrong. Gambling at such an age should be done with money that you worked for, not another person's money that was gifted to you. While I was still in university, my parents would handle almost all my bills, and I still gambled with the money I got from them, but now I am making some money and I can do whatever I want with my money.
Someone who gambles using their parents' money is usually rich and has enough income so that their children gamble for fun, winning or losing is not a problem for them. However, there are also quite a few lower middle class people (today's children) who gamble using their parents' money so they don't think about the feelings of their parents who are looking for hard-earned money but their children instead use it to gamble. Those who originally wanted to increase their parents' income but instead became a burden for their parents because all they got from gambling were losses and defeats.
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September 10, 2023, 12:42:28 AM
A family member reported to me that her eighteen years old son has started gambling. She is not worried that he is gaming but her problem is that he is a student that solely depends on her for everything he needs. Her fear is also that her son might start stealing from her if he has no access to the money he needs to gamble. My relative has even started suspecting that some money she feels was misplaced might have been stolen by her son.
It is somewhat difficult to control an underage boy if he becomes addicted to gambling. That is why it is better to bring him back before he becomes addicted. The boy you mentioned is an 18 years old man I can say he is quite mature now. If he has no income of his own then gambling will surely encourage negative aspects for him. I think there is no other way than to bring him back from his addiction by getting him well understood by his family. He should understand that earning money is not an easy task. So it is better if he can gamble with his earned money otherwise he should not gamble. Also he should understand that gambling is not a platform for high income. It's generally best to treat it as a fun.
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September 09, 2023, 11:18:55 PM
If parents find out that their child has started gambling, they must provide more understanding and a different approach. Their children must be guided to stop gambling before it is too late and their parents cannot save their lives.
True. There's a money involved in gambling so even our kid says they're just playing for fun, we can't help but to worry. It's just right to explain and if possible make them stop playing since gambling is not suited for students who are still depending on their parents.

With the approach parents take, they can slowly make their children aware that what they do is not good for their mental health. The presence of his parents in guiding him out of gambling can help him to leave gambling and never gamble again.
For now, he need to stop his gambling activity and focus on his studies. But it doesn't mean he can't gamble in the future anymore. Because once he's settled, earning a stable income and already know what's right or wrong, he can decide for himself. In time, he will understand his mother if he already have a family and became a parent.
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September 09, 2023, 10:45:44 PM
It's easy to say but this is the hardest thing to do. Especially for most people in this generation are not that close to their parents which makes it hard to talk about things like that. I know someone, younger than me who is close to the said situation. His parents can't do anything or any approach, they can't stop that kid from gambling. The thing is this kid was influenced by his friends and through social media. He sees that it is being promoted, so what's on his mind is it is okay to do gambling.
It's easy to say but it requires one step done continuously. In your case, the parents can ask for help from other people outside the family circle or who are still related to the family. By asking for help, the person can approach their child and talk personally.

Maybe the child feels embarrassed to speak frankly to his parents. So, with help from outsiders, he can talk frankly with that person so his parents can understand the real problem. Openness is needed from the child so that parents can understand what makes their child influenced by their friends.

After finding the root of the problem, they can find a solution so that their child can stop gambling and not be influenced by his friends. Children who grow up in this era cannot be approached using old methods because they have been influenced by technology and others. Parents must learn to find the right way to approach their children so that their children can talk and be honest with them. And it takes time so parents must be patient and continue to approach and accompany their children.
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September 09, 2023, 12:45:14 PM
Teenagers believe they get freedom when they start making their own money as you can't control them by telling them how to spend the money. Your nephew should be watched because he might be heading down a path that might be dangerous and will need your help.

Having a helicopter parent is not conducive for teenagers. And looking at the scenario, the boy may not be what the mom thinks he is, since OP as a gambler examined the boy and thinks he is a responsible player, I don't think the boy is getting deceived. It'll be nice if OP spends time discussing gambling with the boy or watch the boy play games. Then, he'll be able to understand what exactly could be the boy's problem if there is any, and he'll make the mother aware of how to treat her son. A teenager can get into trouble if they've got no gambling guidance from somebody who is close to them.
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September 09, 2023, 09:15:51 AM
This teenager still needs guidance from his parents, especially since he is new to new things. If his parents can continue to accompany him by providing sufficient advice and knowledge, he can look after himself, especially when socializing or hanging out with his friends.
The role of parents is very important for their children who start gambling, because basically gambling will not always give them a win let alone make it a source of income, I think it is necessary to guide them slowly, it could be that the child has become an addict but is still within the limits of his control. not aware, usually just addicts will not want to listen to anyone.

If he is not an addict, he should listen to what his parents say for his own good, especially since he is still underage and doesn't have enough time to gamble, at least continue to high school such as college to become a successful person, not become a gambler whose future is very bleak for the most part, so to Guiding this child must be done slowly and at the same time explaining the risks and dangers and not pressuring him to stop gambling quickly because this requires a process of changing habits.
If parents find out that their child has started gambling, they must provide more understanding and a different approach. Their children must be guided to stop gambling before it is too late and their parents cannot save their lives.

Even though their child can control himself, his parents still have to explain and guide him so he can stop gambling. Parents who really love their children don't want to see their children involved in gambling more deeply. And before that happens, they must immediately get him out of gambling.

With the approach parents take, they can slowly make their children aware that what they do is not good for their mental health. The presence of his parents in guiding him out of gambling can help him to leave gambling and never gamble again.
It's easy to say but this is the hardest thing to do. Especially for most people in this generation are not that close to their parents which makes it hard to talk about things like that. I know someone, younger than me who is close to the said situation. His parents can't do anything or any approach, they can't stop that kid from gambling. The thing is this kid was influenced by his friends and through social media. He sees that it is being promoted, so what's on his mind is it is okay to do gambling.
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September 09, 2023, 07:49:48 AM
This teenager still needs guidance from his parents, especially since he is new to new things. If his parents can continue to accompany him by providing sufficient advice and knowledge, he can look after himself, especially when socializing or hanging out with his friends.
The role of parents is very important for their children who start gambling, because basically gambling will not always give them a win let alone make it a source of income, I think it is necessary to guide them slowly, it could be that the child has become an addict but is still within the limits of his control. not aware, usually just addicts will not want to listen to anyone.

If he is not an addict, he should listen to what his parents say for his own good, especially since he is still underage and doesn't have enough time to gamble, at least continue to high school such as college to become a successful person, not become a gambler whose future is very bleak for the most part, so to Guiding this child must be done slowly and at the same time explaining the risks and dangers and not pressuring him to stop gambling quickly because this requires a process of changing habits.
If parents find out that their child has started gambling, they must provide more understanding and a different approach. Their children must be guided to stop gambling before it is too late and their parents cannot save their lives.

Even though their child can control himself, his parents still have to explain and guide him so he can stop gambling. Parents who really love their children don't want to see their children involved in gambling more deeply. And before that happens, they must immediately get him out of gambling.

With the approach parents take, they can slowly make their children aware that what they do is not good for their mental health. The presence of his parents in guiding him out of gambling can help him to leave gambling and never gamble again.
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