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Quote from: Westinhome on August 24, 2023, 08:07:03 AM

Quote from: maydna on August 23, 2023, 10:48:14 AM

All family members behavior can be detected from what they do daily, which is starting to be different from usual. And it will be the job of the other family members to start approaching him and asking what's wrong with him. It's just to make sure that he's okay, and usually, if there is a really serious problem, he will tend to do something unusual that can confuse all the family members.

This is the importance of us being able to take care of each other so that we can immediately assist a family member experiencing problems. We don't know how they socialize outside because if they are young people, they don't want to be exposed to too much social exposure by their family members. And today's younger generation, accustomed to technological sophistication, can use it for their needs and even gamble easily using their cell phones outside the home.

If the family members was found involved in gambling,the first person to oppose will be your wife or your mother.The gamblers attitude will be changed when he involved in the gambling,first he reduce the amount of money he giving to the family.By this the family members will think where he spending the money.At first they will check the gamblers spending money on any bad habits like drinking alcohol and smoking.If they find so,he will be escape from the family members.Because the family members will not check further,incase the gamblers don’t have any habits.Then he will easy find by the family members about his gambling activities.

Though I don't completely understand perfectly what you meant, but let me say that, as a gambler, your family finding out you are a gambler or not solely depends on you and your attitude towards them, using myself as an example, I've been gambling way before I got married, though it's not been regular, I became more of a regular gambler since the begining of 2022, but then, in all of this year's, my wife and kids have never for once suspected me to be a gambler, and that is because I never gave them a reason to ever suspect me, so my gambling life have been really peaceful.

As a man, there are some thing you don't let your family know about, cus they know, you will either have to stop doing it, or be ready for fights every day, most especially, when the woman ask for anything and you refuse to give to her.

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Quote from: coinerer on August 23, 2023, 10:57:12 AM

It is very difficult to get a gambling addict out of gambling if he does not try and has no self-control.

It is difficult sometimes even if he wants to and he tries, so if he doesn't want to and it is a relative who tries to force him he has a bad prognosis.

In the case of someone who is just 18 years old, the legal age to gamble as mentioned in the thread, I think the best thing to do is to try to normalise it by informing them of the potential risks. If it's your child, it's better to go to the casino with them one day, and spend some time gambling in a controlled way but also explain to them how many people you've met who have had serious problems with gambling.

I think this is better because at the end of the day, being of age, he is going to do what he wants and if you try to convince him not to do it out of fear, what will happen is that he will do it on the sly.

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Quote from: maydna on August 23, 2023, 10:48:14 AM

All family members behavior can be detected from what they do daily, which is starting to be different from usual. And it will be the job of the other family members to start approaching him and asking what's wrong with him. It's just to make sure that he's okay, and usually, if there is a really serious problem, he will tend to do something unusual that can confuse all the family members.

This is the importance of us being able to take care of each other so that we can immediately assist a family member experiencing problems. We don't know how they socialize outside because if they are young people, they don't want to be exposed to too much social exposure by their family members. And today's younger generation, accustomed to technological sophistication, can use it for their needs and even gamble easily using their cell phones outside the home.

If the family members was found involved in gambling,the first person to oppose will be your wife or your mother.The gamblers attitude will be changed when he involved in the gambling,first he reduce the amount of money he giving to the family.By this the family members will think where he spending the money.At first they will check the gamblers spending money on any bad habits like drinking alcohol and smoking.If they find so,he will be escape from the family members.Because the family members will not check further,incase the gamblers don’t have any habits.Then he will easy find by the family members about his gambling activities.

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Quote from: coinerer on August 23, 2023, 10:57:12 AM

Quote from: rojan on August 23, 2023, 03:45:43 AM

Quote from: coinerer on August 22, 2023, 01:20:10 PM

Not only 18+ also under 18 is now addicted on gambling. Gambling is more prevalent among the youth. bnd all the gamblers are now sitting at home and gambling on their phone or computer so it is difficult to understand who is addicted to gambling and who is not. but family members can make some guesses by seeing his financial status change and by seeing some of his unusual behavior. and everyone has a motive for gambling that they will be financially strong in less time

Yes my younger brother I think is totally addicted to gambling. After few days I see a lot of changes in him sometimes he behaves strangely at home. For money he misbehaves with all the people. Sometimes he takes the money without telling. I know from his classmates that he is addicted to gambling. Now I don't know how to get him back from gambling.

It is very difficult to get a gambling addict out of gambling if he does not try and has no self-control. But keep him under watch all the time and make him aware of its downsides as a family. And have one of his best friends try to convince him how important it is for him to get out of gambling. It may be possible to get him out of gambling that way but there is no guarantee that it will really work and how long it will take him to get out of gambling will depend on how deeply addicted he is.

The best antidote to gambling addiction is to first find a good purpose for that person, with that, it will be easier to be convinced, if not, it could still work if such could help by fighting it within, but in most cases, it's a harder task. Most people become gambling addicts due to desperation, they want the money by all means, and before they know it, they find themselves gambling so much and uncontrollably. I knew this in practice as I'd suffered from the addiction in the past, only that I did not cross the red line. This is despite that I'm a very cautious and careful person, yet, it crept in. This was because I was desperate to earn at that time, however changing my mindset and fighting within helped me overcome.

This is why I say two things help better and faster, and they are 1. Finding a good earning purpose for the person.
2. Such must be willing to fight within amidst help if necessary.

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Quote from: maydna on August 23, 2023, 10:48:14 AM

Quote from: rojan on August 23, 2023, 03:45:43 AM

Quote from: coinerer on August 22, 2023, 01:20:10 PM

Not only 18+ also under 18 is now addicted on gambling. Gambling is more prevalent among the youth. bnd all the gamblers are now sitting at home and gambling on their phone or computer so it is difficult to understand who is addicted to gambling and who is not. but family members can make some guesses by seeing his financial status change and by seeing some of his unusual behavior. and everyone has a motive for gambling that they will be financially strong in less time

Yes my younger brother I think is totally addicted to gambling. After few days I see a lot of changes in him sometimes he behaves strangely at home. For money he misbehaves with all the people. Sometimes he takes the money without telling. I know from his classmates that he is addicted to gambling. Now I don't know how to get him back from gambling.

All family members behavior can be detected from what they do daily, which is starting to be different from usual. And it will be the job of the other family members to start approaching him and asking what's wrong with him. It's just to make sure that he's okay, and usually, if there is a really serious problem, he will tend to do something unusual that can confuse all the family members.

This is the importance of us being able to take care of each other so that we can immediately assist a family member experiencing problems. We don't know how they socialize outside because if they are young people, they don't want to be exposed to too much social exposure by their family members. And today's younger generation, accustomed to technological sophistication, can use it for their needs and even gamble easily using their cell phones outside the home.

This would as a prerequisite mean that the family still lives under one roof or how should it be possible for family members to have an eye all the time on the activities of someone who could be gambling too much? And even then it is unrealistic because if that happens and the family puts pressure on someone who gambles so much, how would they check activities when someone goes outside and plays on their mobile. This idea to observe someone's activities around the clock doesn't make a lot of sense. It would make more sense to offer someone alternative activities that the person enjoys, that the person chooses something more meaningful to do than gambling. Observation isn't a sustainable solution at all.

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Quote from: rojan on August 23, 2023, 03:45:43 AM

Quote from: coinerer on August 22, 2023, 01:20:10 PM

Not only 18+ also under 18 is now addicted on gambling. Gambling is more prevalent among the youth. bnd all the gamblers are now sitting at home and gambling on their phone or computer so it is difficult to understand who is addicted to gambling and who is not. but family members can make some guesses by seeing his financial status change and by seeing some of his unusual behavior. and everyone has a motive for gambling that they will be financially strong in less time

Yes my younger brother I think is totally addicted to gambling. After few days I see a lot of changes in him sometimes he behaves strangely at home. For money he misbehaves with all the people. Sometimes he takes the money without telling. I know from his classmates that he is addicted to gambling. Now I don't know how to get him back from gambling.

It is very difficult to get a gambling addict out of gambling if he does not try and has no self-control. But keep him under watch all the time and make him aware of its downsides as a family. And have one of his best friends try to convince him how important it is for him to get out of gambling. It may be possible to get him out of gambling that way but there is no guarantee that it will really work and how long it will take him to get out of gambling will depend on how deeply addicted he is.

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Quote from: rojan on August 23, 2023, 03:45:43 AM

Quote from: coinerer on August 22, 2023, 01:20:10 PM

Not only 18+ also under 18 is now addicted on gambling. Gambling is more prevalent among the youth. bnd all the gamblers are now sitting at home and gambling on their phone or computer so it is difficult to understand who is addicted to gambling and who is not. but family members can make some guesses by seeing his financial status change and by seeing some of his unusual behavior. and everyone has a motive for gambling that they will be financially strong in less time

Yes my younger brother I think is totally addicted to gambling. After few days I see a lot of changes in him sometimes he behaves strangely at home. For money he misbehaves with all the people. Sometimes he takes the money without telling. I know from his classmates that he is addicted to gambling. Now I don't know how to get him back from gambling.

All family members behavior can be detected from what they do daily, which is starting to be different from usual. And it will be the job of the other family members to start approaching him and asking what's wrong with him. It's just to make sure that he's okay, and usually, if there is a really serious problem, he will tend to do something unusual that can confuse all the family members.

This is the importance of us being able to take care of each other so that we can immediately assist a family member experiencing problems. We don't know how they socialize outside because if they are young people, they don't want to be exposed to too much social exposure by their family members. And today's younger generation, accustomed to technological sophistication, can use it for their needs and even gamble easily using their cell phones outside the home.

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Quote from: lionheart78 on August 22, 2023, 03:54:07 PM

It is indeed discouraged to gamble when the money is not that person's hard-earned money. It is not only in a grey area but heavily frowned upon by people who know responsibilities and respect. For people who have a high sense of responsibility, they do not accept this kind of attitude.

Technically looks ok to gamble the money given by parents because it is literally the receiver's money but morally, it is unethical to spend money for gambling when the purpose of money is to support the kid for his schooling and other important stuff.

Dependents can gamble recklessly because it is not their hard earned money. It is better to gamble with your money and not with gifts. The giver might not be comfortable with your gambling. And when you stop getting assistance from parents, it could lead to stealing.

Quote from: Sandra_hakeem on August 22, 2023, 03:11:34 PM

Stop immediately!!! What?? How did I miss this??!
WTF does an eighth year old boy knows about gambling?? Who started it in him? If this story isn't fictional, then that's also as a result of bad parenting - let's say, if his parents were unable to tutor him into a kid that portrays a good virtue, are they now gon' be able to make him desist when he's already wagered and felt the fantasy in the game?...
I don't understand how some peeps feel it's way too easy to solve a problem when it escalates already....well, good luck to them.

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If you really read the original post, the story was true life experienced by the OP and not make belief. And the age of my nephew is not eight but eighteen. And an eighteen-year-old is considered an adult in my country. His parents are not gamblers, so he didn't learn it from any of them. Further investigation proved that he learned it from his friends and not from home. I agree that an eight-year-old might not know about gambling and parents should raise children in a manner that they should behave well in society. Underaged children are more prone to gambling addiction hence they should be protected.

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Quote from: coinerer on August 22, 2023, 01:20:10 PM

Not only 18+ also under 18 is now addicted on gambling. Gambling is more prevalent among the youth. bnd all the gamblers are now sitting at home and gambling on their phone or computer so it is difficult to understand who is addicted to gambling and who is not. but family members can make some guesses by seeing his financial status change and by seeing some of his unusual behavior. and everyone has a motive for gambling that they will be financially strong in less time

Yes my younger brother I think is totally addicted to gambling. After few days I see a lot of changes in him sometimes he behaves strangely at home. For money he misbehaves with all the people. Sometimes he takes the money without telling. I know from his classmates that he is addicted to gambling. Now I don't know how to get him back from gambling.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on August 22, 2023, 12:27:15 AM

I think its rather grey to gamble with money you were handed. What did I mean here with grey? Its pretty obvious. It sounds okay as if kiddo is gambling with his own money but I think its not exactly acceptable because its not hard earned money. When people gamble with money they %100 earn and own I have nothing to tell against it. But I can't say it's good when someone uses his father's money honestly.

It is indeed discouraged to gamble when the money is not that person's hard-earned money. It is not only in a grey area but heavily frowned upon by people who know responsibilities and respect. For people who have a high sense of responsibility, they do not accept this kind of attitude.

Technically looks ok to gamble the money given by parents because it is literally the receiver's money but morally, it is unethical to spend money for gambling when the purpose of money is to support the kid for his schooling and other important stuff.

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I spoke to my nephew and he told me that he has never stolen from his mother to gamble. And he gambles with only his savings from his weekly stipend he receives from the family. And he won't gamble if he has no savings to do that. From my observation, he is a responsible gambler that is just enjoying the game and making a little money occasionally. The gambling age in my country is 18+, but his mother is insisting that he must stop. What will be your advice for this young boy?

Gambling is addictive, and I'm sure that's the number reason why his parents are against it, because as a wise father/mother, I think the last thing they will ever want to see their child do is insulating the habit of gambling at an early tender adolescent age of 18yrs, because despite the fact that the constitution states that at 18yrs, such individual is liable to whatever action he/she takes, starting from gambling is a NO NO for me, and most especially when you made it open to the knowledge of your mum. So for me, I just think that boy just need to put a pause on gambling and listen to his mum.. Parents are always right.

18 years old of age is already considered to be on legal age on which it is really that impossible that someone cant really be able to think off that carefully in speaking on how to make out decisions and how to distinguish

between things which can bring harm or good. Gambling isnt bad but it should really be that taken that well so that you wont really be finding yourself that get addicted.This is where people do usually experience problems on the time that they arent minding about their spending and this is where things turns out to be a mess if you arent that careful in speaking about the potential gambling risks. You are already at the age on which it isnt
that young anymore. If there's someone who do play out gambling and financially dependent on you, then as a parent then you should cut off the source and you would really be able to make him
minimize his gambling activity.

Next, speak to them about the risks of it and tell them that dealing with it on active manner is never been that good because it could really make someone addicted
If you arent that good on handling emotions and having that discipline then you do know on whats next.

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Stop immediately!!! What?? How did I miss this??!
WTF does an eighth year old boy knows about gambling?? Who started it in him? If this story isn't fictional, then that's also as a result of bad parenting - let's say, if his parents were unable to tutor him into a kid that portrays a good virtue, are they now gon' be able to make him desist when he's already wagered and felt the fantasy in the game?...
I don't understand how some peeps feel it's way too easy to solve a problem when it escalates already....well, good luck to them.

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Quote from: Zlantann on August 18, 2023, 03:17:53 AM

I spoke to my nephew and he told me that he has never stolen from his mother to gamble. And he gambles with only his savings from his weekly stipend he receives from the family. And he won't gamble if he has no savings to do that. From my observation, he is a responsible gambler that is just enjoying the game and making a little money occasionally. The gambling age in my country is 18+, but his mother is insisting that he must stop. What will be your advice for this young boy?

Gambling is addictive, and I'm sure that's the number reason why his parents are against it, because as a wise father/mother, I think the last thing they will ever want to see their child do is insulating the habit of gambling at an early tender adolescent age of 18yrs, because despite the fact that the constitution states that at 18yrs, such individual is liable to whatever action he/she takes, starting from gambling is a NO NO for me, and most especially when you made it open to the knowledge of your mum. So for me, I just think that boy just need to put a pause on gambling and listen to his mum.. Parents are always right.

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One of the worst aspects of gambling addiction is getting hooked at an early age. When a young person gets involved in gambling at an early age, it can carry huge risks for their future. The amount this young person will gamble may not be high, but if he or she has the ambition to win, this is exactly where the trouble starts. The moment he loses, he will want to gamble again and again to make up for it. When he plays with this anger, maybe he will lose all the money he has. It may not be a problem for the family in terms of financial support, but from the point of view of the child, he may experience psychological distress.
This is a situation that can happen. As he loses money, he will look for ways to find or earn money. If he knows where the money is at home, we can say that it is very normal for him to engage in such initiatives.
If he is playing for pleasure, there is not much trouble. My suggestion to him is to turn to other areas that will keep him busy. Rather than gambling, he can prepare himself for the things he needs to improve himself and do what he wants in the future.

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Quote from: rojan on August 22, 2023, 05:01:05 AM

Quote from: GigaBit on August 20, 2023, 07:21:03 AM

At this age a gambler cannot be identified unless he reveals the matter himself because a gambler is getting all kinds of benefits from sitting at home. If a gambler realizes on his own that he may be addicted or has pushed himself into a hostile environment from which he needs a way out, he will find a way to control himself there if he can explain addiction well to those gamblers. We should remember that no gambler can be forced to turn away. If they are adults then definitely they can come back by realizing these things.

Now there is no way to know if someone is completely addicted to gambling because now everyone gambles at home. Now almost most people 18+ are addicted to gambling. Also in some countries some boys are addicted to gambling at an immature age. I sometimes think that those who are 18+ They are old enough to understand their own good, but what can happen to the lives of those who indulge in gambling at an immature age. However, if the parents of all families are careful, they may not be able to indulge in gambling at an immature age.

Not only 18+ also under 18 is now addicted on gambling. Gambling is more prevalent among the youth. bnd all the gamblers are now sitting at home and gambling on their phone or computer so it is difficult to understand who is addicted to gambling and who is not. but family members can make some guesses by seeing his financial status change and by seeing some of his unusual behavior. and everyone has a motive for gambling that they will be financially strong in less time

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on August 22, 2023, 04:24:22 AM

If such kid end up getting addicted to gaming it's going to be a bigger problem than it is right now, my advice is stop that kid by all means necessary before it's too late, you claimed he has no job, he is using money that's meant for other things like pocket money or transport fee to gamble, this is a big red flag, a responsible gambler needs a paying job or a source of income at least to practice a responsible gambling.

I don't see any road to been responsible from this small kid, you should calm him and advice him, gambling is not for the jobless, it only makes things much more worse because such people will always end up chasing their losses, they can't learn the act of letting go.

He is better off facing his studies and he should start working on making his parents proud, what he is doing right now won't make his parent proud, he will make things much worse for them, talk some sense into him.

Maybe he needs someone he can talk to so he can tell about his personal life and why he gambled at such a young age. And he'll be more open to telling that person everything in detail so they can find a solution if they know the real situation. But that person needs to find a different approach because a child at his age may not easily want to talk about the problems he is facing.

Instead of later having a more serious problem that his parents don't know about, it's better to prevent it, especially if he hasn't become addicted to gambling. I think he can leave gambling before it's too late but this needs further communication so he can understand the dangers of gambling and what impact it will have on his life later when he grows up.

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Quote from: Outhue on August 22, 2023, 03:08:12 AM

Quote from: Zlantann on August 18, 2023, 03:17:53 AM

A family member reported to me that her eighteen years old son has started gambling. She is not worried that he is gaming but her problem is that he is a student that solely depends on her for everything he needs. Her fear is also that her son might start stealing from her if he has no access to the money he needs to gamble. My relative has even started suspecting that some money she feels was misplaced might have been stolen by her son.

I spoke to my nephew and he told me that he has never stolen from his mother to gamble. And he gambles with only his savings from his weekly stipend he receives from the family. And he won't gamble if he has no savings to do that. From my observation, he is a responsible gambler that is just enjoying the game and making a little money occasionally. The gambling age in my country is 18+, but his mother is insisting that he must stop. What will be your advice for this young boy?

I will never backed an 18 year old boy that's into gambling because at that age they are not always strong at heart, they easily lose themselves, you can end up losing face in from of his parent because he can fool you guys, trust, I have been there because this have happened to someone very close in the family too.

He might decide not to steal from his mother and go out and start borrowing money from friends and other, before you know what's going on, there will be lots of debt on the ground and will be shocked.

My advice is to be strictly close to that boy, there is no such thing as gambling responsibly in an 18 years old boy, they are just starting their life as a man, and they will always be careless.

I agree that an 18-year-old shouldn't be anywhere near gambling. However, your attempt to generalize every 18-year-old as inherently irresponsible reeks of overbearing paternalism.

You talk about losing face in front of parents, but isn't it the job of parents to guide and understand their children? And if you're pointing fingers at a youngster borrowing money, it's worth asking: where did he learn that behavior? Society? Peers? Or perhaps... family? Your black-and-white painting of this situation is simplistic at best.

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Quote from: GigaBit on August 20, 2023, 07:21:03 AM

At this age a gambler cannot be identified unless he reveals the matter himself because a gambler is getting all kinds of benefits from sitting at home. If a gambler realizes on his own that he may be addicted or has pushed himself into a hostile environment from which he needs a way out, he will find a way to control himself there if he can explain addiction well to those gamblers. We should remember that no gambler can be forced to turn away. If they are adults then definitely they can come back by realizing these things.

Now there is no way to know if someone is completely addicted to gambling because now everyone gambles at home. Now almost most people 18+ are addicted to gambling. Also in some countries some boys are addicted to gambling at an immature age. I sometimes think that those who are 18+ They are old enough to understand their own good, but what can happen to the lives of those who indulge in gambling at an immature age. However, if the parents of all families are careful, they may not be able to indulge in gambling at an immature age.

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If such kid end up getting addicted to gaming it's going to be a bigger problem than it is right now, my advice is stop that kid by all means necessary before it's too late, you claimed he has no job, he is using money that's meant for other things like pocket money or transport fee to gamble, this is a big red flag, a responsible gambler needs a paying job or a source of income at least to practice a responsible gambling.

I don't see any road to been responsible from this small kid, you should calm him and advice him, gambling is not for the jobless, it only makes things much more worse because such people will always end up chasing their losses, they can't learn the act of letting go.

He is better off facing his studies and he should start working on making his parents proud, what he is doing right now won't make his parent proud, he will make things much worse for them, talk some sense into him.

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My advice to that kid would be that he should follow his mother's wishes and stop gambling, I think there's an unwritten rule that as long as you're still living under the house of your parents, any vices should be under control or not encouraged at all because you're still dependent on them so it's kind of ungrateful of you to waste their money in their own house for you gambling habits.

Quote from: Jocuserious on August 21, 2023, 09:52:07 AM

Boys in my country start gambling from below eighteen years of age and they are gambling day and night in different casino sites. Moreover, in reality, many people are gathering gambling together with money. In fact, their family is very rich, so they are investing here because they have a lot of money. I have seen many people gamble by selling their assets but they are only greedy to make extra money.

That's an indication that there are people in your country that's not ready to be a parent because they've failed to set an example to the children that any vices should not be tolerated. I mean a little disciplinary action should've been done to at least prevent these kids but no, there's no indication that it's been done. I guess, I can't put myself in their shoe so I believe that they're a bad parent but hey, no parent has ever groomed their kid to be a gambler.

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