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May 21, 2023, 01:13:43 PM
We call them street magicians in my area and what their are specialized in to swindle unsuspecting gullible people,  i have a friend who was a victim of their practice sometime ago,she was an u undergraduate and has gone to the bank to withdraw her school fees in cash to pay at the bursar office only for her to get attracted to to this set of people who deceived her into spending some part of her fees on gambling.
At first she won a couple of those games but at the end their end up stealing all here remaining balance in cash.
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May 21, 2023, 01:08:31 PM
Gambling is better than shitcoins. At least it is fun.
The outcome of both are basically similar, you are most probably going to lose everything eventually, but if you talk about the fun part, maybe you are right that one can have some fun if playing on a slot machine with good graphics and a pretty high multiplier possibility which makes it fun even to lose money in dead spins since you at least have the hope to get maybe 10,000x in any spin.

With useless cryptocurrencies that are generally called shitcoins, you get to have no fun at all, you put your money at risk by buying them and then just sit and pray that somehow they succeed and provide you with some profit. If your prayers work out, you are good, and if they don't, you get nothing other than a few billion useless tokens.
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May 21, 2023, 12:31:08 PM
Gambling is always a choice and if ever you’re being lured to gamble, then you should be responsible enough whatever the outcome of your decision. And to note that gambling is more on losing than gaining profits, so it’s already an initiative to never gamble an amount that you can’t manage to lose. I guess the lady is a first time gambler and she has no idea that gambling could emptied her pocket when all she believes that gambling will give her huge profits after consistent betting.
From there, we can conclude that gambling does not provide benefits but will give us defeat, so we must try to prevent too many losses. And gambling is indeed a choice, and we don't need to choose gambling to make money because many people have tried it but failed to make money and instead lost a lot of money. This is different from if we work, we can earn money for our lives. In gambling, we will only lose the money we earn at work. But she should have known that gambling could cause her to lose money instead of making big profits. Hopefully, she can learn from his experience.
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May 21, 2023, 06:10:14 AM
Online gambling is totally different, thanks to provably fairness.

That doesn't excuse scam gambling sites available, and this op's case doesn't make all irl gambling houses as scam. Point being, there are always exceptions.

And that's where everything is going mess. If there is an exception from one player and not the other, then the rule is biased and unclear. There should be clear black and white for proper regulation.

Those schemes can be in every place where poverty is at high. It's true that gambling is a choice and when you've lost, you just can't ask a refund to the operators.

The same goes with the typical gambling that we does that if we lose, there's no way the casino will give us that money back. That's why they've got features of self exclusion for those addicted gamblers.

As OP have shared a story, it consists of bought tricksters and gambling.
And that is a lesson for everyone out there that if you are going to gamble, bet, or take any kind of risk be it your money, property, or your psychology. You only have yourself to be responsible for your own.
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May 21, 2023, 06:09:33 AM


My thoughts, is this how we often feel when we lose out on a bet??
Do you wish the site can refund your money??
No casino will refund your money under any circumstances when you bet and you lose, you lose, it's your choice that you bet and lose your money your being irresponsible causes you to lose your money a casino will just offer you to play

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Gambling should be your choice, you shouldn't let anyone compel or persuade you into it.
You should be responsible enough to think for yourself, even if you are persuaded or asked to play whatever outcome you should accept, what if you hit the jackpot and won a lot of money you will be thankful that they persuade or asked you to play.
Gambling is always a choice and if ever you’re being lured to gamble, then you should be responsible enough whatever the outcome of your decision. And to note that gambling is more on losing than gaining profits, so it’s already an initiative to never gamble an amount that you can’t manage to lose. I guess the lady is a first time gambler and she has no idea that gambling could emptied her pocket when all she believes that gambling will give her huge profits after consistent betting.
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May 21, 2023, 05:56:53 AM

It can be a strategy - the gambler can make risky bets with high odds to get big prize. It is possible situation and even i have a friend who doesn`t bet if the odd less 2.5. Of course his win rate is about average, but as he says - he has surplus in his bets. The problem if the gambler tries to return his money and increase risk and bets. And of course you have to make a research before bet.
I think your friend has a high commitment in every bet he chooses even though the risk is high but I'm sure he is good at analyzing and predicting overall.
Choosing odds 2 over it is the right choice for him because he usually already has a way to recover the losses if there is a surprise or your friend chooses on the main sports bet or on the favorite club?
But even though it's too risky it has become a choice.
He analyzes lots of information about event he plans to bet. Both teams, their history, form, last matches, injuries, table, etc. He makes such analyze for several matches every day and looks at the odds. Sometimes he is waiting to bet online. Mostly he bet 1-3 matches per day and wins about a half. It is enough to get profit. But as for me - he spends so many time that he can get much more money making some analyze for the money being a worker.
I told about it just to point such opportunity.
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May 21, 2023, 05:27:13 AM
Petty people are found both online and offline, one should stay away from them. It was woman's fault to bother with these people in first place, just like if you get scammed online, gullibility is to be blamed.
well blaming someone will never change the reality that we are loser in some time.
there are others that succeed while many are losing but still gambling continue to grow and that is because of the nature as we are excited and looking for higher chances  of winning.
I agree that we must blame gullibility and change this in future to not become addicted .

If there is one thing I learned over the years of gambling, it is that the house always win. Sure, there were times where I won huge amounts of money but at the same time, I lost more than I gained in the process of gambling.

At the end of the day, gambling is a choice that is made by the person. He/she embraces the risks that may follow in the course of their actions given the nature of the game itself. The odds and results are what define your subsequent actions as this would either make or break your whole situation.

The gambling casino does not give into the business a free money that's the reason why they earn a lot of because of the potential winning to these players who are actively playing gambling and hoping to get a huge amount of winnings, players perspective has a different thing some of them want to play because they want to get entertained and satisfied themselves through winning gambling no matter what happen the outcome is they are still win because they achieve their goal to play but some people play because they want to earn more money even though they have the limited number of supplies with these they want to play gambling because this is the fastest way to earn and the fastest way to lose too. People taking risk and wondering if they win or not at the end its a win win for the casino because of the players keep playing and hoping this time they win.
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May 21, 2023, 12:05:53 AM
Online gambling is totally different, thanks to provably fairness.

That doesn't excuse scam gambling sites available, and this op's case doesn't make all irl gambling houses as scam. Point being, there are always exceptions.
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May 20, 2023, 05:35:29 PM
I feel soory for her, but unfortunately, whining and screaming is not going to help! She got tricked by professional scammers and there isn't much she can do to get her money back.
Those scammers know where to conduct their tricks and know whom to trick. They will let you win few rounds before they start ripping you of.
Online gambling is totally different, thanks to provably fairness.
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May 20, 2023, 05:32:43 PM
Petty people are found both online and offline, one should stay away from them. It was woman's fault to bother with these people in first place, just like if you get scammed online, gullibility is to be blamed.
well blaming someone will never change the reality that we are loser in some time.
there are others that succeed while many are losing but still gambling continue to grow and that is because of the nature as we are excited and looking for higher chances  of winning.
I agree that we must blame gullibility and change this in future to not become addicted .

If there is one thing I learned over the years of gambling, it is that the house always win. Sure, there were times where I won huge amounts of money but at the same time, I lost more than I gained in the process of gambling.

At the end of the day, gambling is a choice that is made by the person. He/she embraces the risks that may follow in the course of their actions given the nature of the game itself. The odds and results are what define your subsequent actions as this would either make or break your whole situation.
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May 20, 2023, 05:12:44 PM
My thoughts, is this how we often feel when we lose out on a bet??

Well if we are gambling what we can afford to lose then it won't have much impact in our emotion but if we gambled the money for allocated to paying bills then we can have the feeling of restlessness and regret because  we should have not gamble that money and losing it bring trouble on where to get the money that is allocated for bills.

Gambling should be your choice, you shouldn't let anyone compel or persuade you into it.

Well, at the end of the day, the decision about gambling is always been ours.  No one can persuade us to do anything that we don't like.  Even with heavy persuasion, if we really don't want to do any gambling then we can always avoid it, but it is obvious that many of us here are voluntarily playing in a casino.
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May 20, 2023, 04:59:06 PM
Gambling is better than shitcoins. At least it is fun.
Ofc, it is better than Binary Options lol. Trading low-volume altcoins has a low return on the investment but you can make 1000x of the initial bet amount or deposit but the gambler can lose only 100% of the balance in the gambling world. Maybe a comparison is not right since the first option is gambling while the second option is related to the trading world. Fun depends on the person, someone with a different mindset may not like trading or gambling. Just my 2 cents.
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May 20, 2023, 04:27:19 PM
First of all, the lady lost everything because of her own greed. In the world of gambling either you win or lose and mostly the gamblers who have no control over their emotions will lose the bets rather than winning those. That's the reason it's called gambling but if those rouges are using tactics to fool innocent people then that's a kind of robbery rather than gambling but still she betted with her own consent and as a result she lost everything.

The sites will never return you the money that you have lost because if they return everyone's money then how will they earn money themselves? As you know that there are some winners as well and they earn enough from gambling. The game is simple one wins the other lose and it's the way of gambling. The sites might give you some rewards for betting but returning the money that you have lost isn't a feasible thing for their service.

Definitely, they won't. That is why this business is a very lucrative one.
Also, you will never hear a casino returning money to their players who lost big time.
Maybe, in the form of cashback feature. But returning your lost money, I don't think so.
But the story from the OP, such people are really scammers not the same with a casino who have set their rules.
If you happen to see one in your neighborhood, better not to bet as they have their way of screwing their players.
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May 20, 2023, 04:08:50 PM
Gambling is better than shitcoins. At least it is fun.

LOL, I don't know how you can even compare the two.

In any case, if you don't want to gamble simple as that, even if the odds are enticing or even if the bookies or who ever run the illegal gambling den will let you win. They know how to play on people's mentality, but once you are hook it's very hard to get out. So the first lesson is that if you can't take gambling responsible then stay away from it. Second is that you should not be greedy, if you win some and then stop and go home and enjoy the money that you have won. Otherwise you will be trap forever looking for the bigger win. And the more you play the more money you are going to lose in the long run.
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May 20, 2023, 03:09:33 PM
Gambling is better than shitcoins. At least it is fun.
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May 20, 2023, 02:36:38 PM
First of all, the lady lost everything because of her own greed. In the world of gambling either you win or lose and mostly the gamblers who have no control over their emotions will lose the bets rather than winning those. That's the reason it's called gambling but if those rouges are using tactics to fool innocent people then that's a kind of robbery rather than gambling but still she betted with her own consent and as a result she lost everything.

The sites will never return you the money that you have lost because if they return everyone's money then how will they earn money themselves? As you know that there are some winners as well and they earn enough from gambling. The game is simple one wins the other lose and it's the way of gambling. The sites might give you some rewards for betting but returning the money that you have lost isn't a feasible thing for their service.
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May 20, 2023, 02:09:27 PM
So, just last week, this lady fell a victim and she was shouting and crying, the had obviously emptied her pocket and even gotten her phone from her in the process of the gambling.

My thoughts, is this how we often feel when we lose out on a bet??
Do you wish the site can refund your money??

Gambling should be your choice, you shouldn't let anyone compel or persuade you into it.

I think the decision people make when they gamble online is different from when they gamble on the street. In the street, they might just see those tricks and think that people are really winning, and they can also feel so convinced that it's just an easy thing to do and an easy win, so they rush to engage in playing without knowing the rules, and when they have totally loss everything they have on them, they will realize themselves and begin to cry (that's if it's a woman).

But when it comes to online casinos, before someone gambles, he or she already knows that it's not a physical gambling hall and they cannot request their money back once they lose. Gambling is just a choice; if you are not ready to lose at all, don't gamble. People even feel more entangled with street gambling than online because, in real life, gambling is so manipulative that the more you gamble and lose or win, the more drive you will have to gamble more. I may not be actually correct, but I feel so convinced that there is usually a much higher urge in real-life betting than online.

For example, those people who bet while boxers are in the ring boxingy will have more pressure to cast another bet on another person that they think will win the next round. same applies on people who bet in the stadium. We all see how it happens in some American movies.
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May 20, 2023, 01:48:23 PM
Something happened in my locality and I just wonder if that's how we also behave in the online space.

So, they're always a group of rougues in my country, they're often sited in the market place where there's a reasonable population, what's their work???

The have things in a martch box like stones and sticks, they'll ask you to pick the one out of it that has something, depending on what the want....

At first, when you pick, they'll let you win so as to drag your attention, then subsequent wins, you'll be at the losing side and the make sure the drain your pockets entirely.

So, just last week, this lady fell a victim and she was shouting and crying, the had obviously emptied her pocket and even gotten her phone from her in the process of the gambling.

My thoughts, is this how we often feel when we lose out on a bet??
Do you wish the site can refund your money??

Gambling should be your choice, you shouldn't let anyone compel or persuade you into it.


What you mentioned is crime and how is it happening often when there is law enforcement in a country. But that's a compulsion and more of a stealing than saying gambling whereas gambling in a casino its our decision cause no one forced to get in their and bet our money so you can't expect the casino to refund the money when you lose.

But there are some people who started gambling because of someone compelled them to do let's say friends as common that's how people with no intention of gambling introduced to gambling but it happens only once and we have all the remaining days to decide what is best for us.
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May 20, 2023, 11:38:20 AM
Those schemes can be in every place where poverty is at high. It's true that gambling is a choice and when you've lost, you just can't ask a refund to the operators.

The same goes with the typical gambling that we does that if we lose, there's no way the casino will give us that money back. That's why they've got features of self exclusion for those addicted gamblers.

As OP have shared a story, it consists of bought tricksters and gambling.

Those schemes are indeed popular in places where poverty is common and where people is also uneducated on how gambling works and even the tricks used by those crooks to rob anyone blind.

Here in this region on my country there was a legendary tricker who used three coca-cola taps and a little ball, he shuffled it and dared you to guess where it was. This happens in a town by the river.

At first he made you believe that you were going to pocket some money by playing, until suddenly the ball never appeared again and you were left out with nothing in. His crooks assistants were also there to intimidate.

Every time he was going to lift the tap he said to his victims: "Say Coca-Cola!
And then he would shout again: "Let the ball disappear!"

The whole thing rhymes in Spanish.
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May 20, 2023, 10:09:30 AM
Petty people are found both online and offline, one should stay away from them. It was woman's fault to bother with these people in first place, just like if you get scammed online, gullibility is to be blamed.
well blaming someone will never change the reality that we are loser in some time.
there are others that succeed while many are losing but still gambling continue to grow and that is because of the nature as we are excited and looking for higher chances  of winning.
I agree that we must blame gullibility and change this in future to not become addicted .
If we are unable to handle our loss in gambling we should not gamble in the first place only because we will always get sad or blame others for our loss so better stay away from it and keep your funds safe with you.There are people who will win and others loose as your luck will determine the outcome but you should not copy someone else and enjoy with your budget.

You've made a really valid point by saying that before placing a wager, a person should weigh the risk involved and get mentally ready because gambling has a much higher loss rate than win rate. I know of some individuals that gamble for a living and they are doing well, still wondering how they are doing it, for someone like me I only gamble for fun and am always pained when ever I lose since my mindset  is always set on winning always. Everyone gambling has different stories to tell about  gambling, some stories are actually very sad after they have sold everything just to gamble.
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