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Quote from: Alisha-k on May 16, 2023, 03:26:59 AM

At first, when you pick, they'll let you win so as to drag your attention, then subsequent wins, you'll be at the losing side and the make sure the drain your pockets entirely.

Then this is obviously a scam. Anyone who gambles in this type of game is probably ignorant and will likely regret it in the end. Sometimes we need to control our urges, as scammers are skilled at attracting unsuspecting individuals, particularly those who may lack knowledge or understanding.

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My thoughts, is this how we often feel when we lose out on a bet??

I don't feel good but I'll still be able to recover immediately because I made to gamble what I can only afford to lose.

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Do you wish the site can refund your money??

I'm not stupid to expect that, if I lose money then that's their money. refund only happens when there is a mistake.

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Gambling should be your choice, you shouldn't let anyone compel or persuade you into it.

Just gamble responsibly and you'll be okay.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on May 16, 2023, 03:26:59 AM

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So, just last week, this lady fell a victim and she was shouting and crying, the had obviously emptied her pocket and even gotten her phone from her in the process of the gambling.

My thoughts, is this how we often feel when we lose out on a bet??
Do you wish the site can refund your money??

Gambling should be your choice, you shouldn't let anyone compel or persuade you into it.

Let me get this straight, the woman spent what she brought to bet, right?
Gambling is a choice, losing is not a choice, but letting the things you carry in the traditional gambling arena as a bet is a choice, on the other hand you seem to have no choice because you keep chasing losses.
Gambling is not only a choice but also preparation and self-control for every bad possibility. What's more, you go to a physical casino where the atmosphere is set to take you to an uncontrollable emotional level. Illegal gambling places are indeed far from standard, so you won't realize if the dealer uses sneaky methods.

The fact is that it is not about gambling and losing or chasing losses is about the manipulation and other shady act of these rugs they are specialized in other criminal activities aside from just local gambling sometimes they empty the player's pocket through the pickpocket's mechanism in the sense that, while the crowd is gathered and there is high population congestion in the environment where the games are played, the organizers will employ the service of other criminals to pict things from other pocket and bags.

The best practice is to avoid such places in totality since there are already known scams, I always look away from them anytime I come across such gatherings and street games no matter the form of entertainment their carry because that is the method they used to attract their victims.

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Quote from: Fivestar4everMVP on May 17, 2023, 07:16:00 PM

Absolutely correct about the casinos aren't here to refund money comment, every one gambles consciously, and without being forced, it is indeed a decision we all make, with understanding that money lost is lost for good and will never be given back to us, and even with this knowledge, we still gamble, and those better understanding of what gambling truly means, do it with joy always no matter the loss..

But then, like in the case of the woman, like I said in my earlier comment, that was not gambling, those were scammers and she unfortunately fell into their trap, I never would see such as gambling cus its not.

The casino is not a place for charity so whatever the gambler loses when betting will never be returned by the casino if possible only a Rakeback or other bonus but not returning the lost money.
There are no gamblers who are not aware of their decision to bet because betting is an activity that is really thought through so it is clear that whatever is done with all the risk the gambler accepts it but it is very strange when they get a win they regret and complain.

Whether it's secamer or pure defeat, I can't really say because what the OP conveyed is just a story without any more definite clarity.
But it could also be because of the emergence of an emotion that made the woman chase victory until she gave everything she had to bet but only suffered defeat.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on May 16, 2023, 03:26:59 AM

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So, just last week, this lady fell a victim and she was shouting and crying, the had obviously emptied her pocket and even gotten her phone from her in the process of the gambling.

My thoughts, is this how we often feel when we lose out on a bet??
Do you wish the site can refund your money??

Gambling should be your choice, you shouldn't let anyone compel or persuade you into it.

Let me get this straight, the woman spent what she brought to bet, right?
Gambling is a choice, losing is not a choice, but letting the things you carry in the traditional gambling arena as a bet is a choice, on the other hand you seem to have no choice because you keep chasing losses.
Gambling is not only a choice, but also preparation and self-control for every bad possibility. What's more, you go to a physical casino where the atmosphere is set to take you to an uncontrollable emotional level. Illegal gambling places are indeed far from standard, so you won't realize if the dealer uses sneaky methods.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on May 16, 2023, 03:26:59 AM

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There is no stage of gamebilling similar to what happened to your locality with some people and a woman at the end. They usually trick the woman and rob or steal her money and mobile phone in a fancy way. No one has ever been a victim of such fraud in gambling and the Gambling Authority will never support such fraudulent activities.
I have been involved with online casinos and gambling sites for a long time but I have never been in such a situation and never had a refund incident in my life. However, there are occasional rumors of minor scams in casinos and gambling sites, but these are usually caused by user error. In this case, I could not see any mistake on the part of the Casino and Gambling Authority.

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Quote from: CryptSafe on May 17, 2023, 05:04:35 PM

One thing they should know that gambling is just like the normal game everyone plays. We should be able to know that in every game played, there must be a winner and there must be a loser. So when playing any game of your choice, you must be prepared for the inevitable to Happen; it is either you win it you loss that is the ideology when gambling and also it should not be a thing of bed of roses for gamblers.

The inevitable is the reasons why you are asked to gamble responsibly and gamble with what you can afford to lose so that you do not get into any emotional trauma while gambling as the case maybe...

Gambling taken to an extreme is considered addiction, and it should be thoroughly examined and appropriate solutions should be sought because the consequences are debts or loss of assets. Gambling is a choice; it either brings you or takes you away, depending on the strategy you take. Most people have been victimized by gambling, yet it has also helped some people become financially stable. Every negative consequence that gambling shows has a corresponding beneficial result; we should always wager with what we can afford to lose, and also follow our stable motives other than seeking revenge, which will end up in a ravaged state.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on May 16, 2023, 03:26:59 AM

Something happened in my locality and I just wonder if that's how we also behave in the online space.

So, they're always a group of rougues in my country, they're often sited in the market place where there's a reasonable population, what's their work???

The have things in a martch box like stones and sticks, they'll ask you to pick the one out of it that has something, depending on what the want....

At first, when you pick, they'll let you win so as to drag your attention, then subsequent wins, you'll be at the losing side and the make sure the drain your pockets entirely.

So, just last week, this lady fell a victim and she was shouting and crying, the had obviously emptied her pocket and even gotten her phone from her in the process of the gambling.

My thoughts, is this how we often feel when we lose out on a bet??
Do you wish the site can refund your money??

Gambling should be your choice, you shouldn't let anyone compel or persuade you into it.

Yeah, I do agree with you. I mean everyone with a sane mind would agree that gambling is a choice and a form of entertainment. People shouldn't be gambling to get rich quick. What happened to the lady is sad. But she knew what she was doing. I guess a lesson learned for her. But I don't think they were offering her gambling service. More like they were scamming her. Letting her win and then making her lose sounds more like a scam.

Casino's aren't here to refund money. Once a bet is placed, it is final. If casinos started to refund money, they would go out of business very soon.

Absolutely correct about the casinos aren't here to refund money comment, every one gambles consciously, and without being forced, it is indeed a decision we all make, with understanding that money lost is lost for good and will never be given back to us, and even with this knowledge, we still gamble, and those better understanding of what gambling truly means, do it with joy always no matter the loss..

But then, like in the case of the woman, like I said in my earlier comment, that was not gambling, those were scammers and she unfortunately fell into their trap, I never would see such as gambling cus its not.

It is really that a wrong to have that kind of assumption that on whatever the amount you had gambled would really be taken it back because thats not how gambling business do works because we know that business
do run to make revenue or income into its owners and its true that you arent been forced to play which means that on whatever things you've been dealing with as long you do make out some bets on using up real money which simply is a gamble. Once you do lost, then its lost completely and dont hope for some getting those funds back and on the time you do win then for sure you wont really be having no complaints. Cheesy

Basing up on the situation stated on OP which this is clearly some modus or really that unfair way of betting on which making yourself believe that you could win and betting everything you do have and ending up
on losing will really be putting you into a situation where you would be ending up on crying and thinking up hardly on what happened. Gambling is for fun and not something that could
make yourself rich because this kind of mindset and belief do really pushes up more and being that desperate.

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Quote from: adzino on May 17, 2023, 07:09:43 PM

Quote from: Alisha-k on May 16, 2023, 03:26:59 AM

Something happened in my locality and I just wonder if that's how we also behave in the online space.

So, they're always a group of rougues in my country, they're often sited in the market place where there's a reasonable population, what's their work???

The have things in a martch box like stones and sticks, they'll ask you to pick the one out of it that has something, depending on what the want....

At first, when you pick, they'll let you win so as to drag your attention, then subsequent wins, you'll be at the losing side and the make sure the drain your pockets entirely.

So, just last week, this lady fell a victim and she was shouting and crying, the had obviously emptied her pocket and even gotten her phone from her in the process of the gambling.

My thoughts, is this how we often feel when we lose out on a bet??
Do you wish the site can refund your money??

Gambling should be your choice, you shouldn't let anyone compel or persuade you into it.

Yeah, I do agree with you. I mean everyone with a sane mind would agree that gambling is a choice and a form of entertainment. People shouldn't be gambling to get rich quick. What happened to the lady is sad. But she knew what she was doing. I guess a lesson learned for her. But I don't think they were offering her gambling service. More like they were scamming her. Letting her win and then making her lose sounds more like a scam.

Casino's aren't here to refund money. Once a bet is placed, it is final. If casinos started to refund money, they would go out of business very soon.

Absolutely correct about the casinos aren't here to refund money comment, every one gambles consciously, and without being forced, it is indeed a decision we all make, with understanding that money lost is lost for good and will never be given back to us, and even with this knowledge, we still gamble, and those better understanding of what gambling truly means, do it with joy always no matter the loss..

But then, like in the case of the woman, like I said in my earlier comment, that was not gambling, those were scammers and she unfortunately fell into their trap, I never would see such as gambling cus its not.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on May 16, 2023, 03:26:59 AM

Something happened in my locality and I just wonder if that's how we also behave in the online space.

So, they're always a group of rougues in my country, they're often sited in the market place where there's a reasonable population, what's their work???

The have things in a martch box like stones and sticks, they'll ask you to pick the one out of it that has something, depending on what the want....

At first, when you pick, they'll let you win so as to drag your attention, then subsequent wins, you'll be at the losing side and the make sure the drain your pockets entirely.

So, just last week, this lady fell a victim and she was shouting and crying, the had obviously emptied her pocket and even gotten her phone from her in the process of the gambling.

My thoughts, is this how we often feel when we lose out on a bet??
Do you wish the site can refund your money??

Gambling should be your choice, you shouldn't let anyone compel or persuade you into it.

Yeah, I do agree with you. I mean everyone with a sane mind would agree that gambling is a choice and a form of entertainment. People shouldn't be gambling to get rich quick. What happened to the lady is sad. But she knew what she was doing. I guess a lesson learned for her. But I don't think they were offering her gambling service. More like they were scamming her. Letting her win and then making her lose sounds more like a scam.

Casino's aren't here to refund money. Once a bet is placed, it is final. If casinos started to refund money, they would go out of business very soon.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on May 17, 2023, 02:55:05 AM

We must feel disappointed because we have experienced defeat in betting and we will experience that. We cannot hope the site will return the money we used to gamble because we have gambled on their site and lost.

Playing gambling is everyone's choice. Some want to gamble and some don't want to gamble. If you want to gamble, you must be prepared to experience defeat, where defeat is a sure thing in gambling. Meanwhile, victory will not always come to you, so prepare some money and enjoy playing gambling and stop before your money runs out.

One thing they should know that gambling is just like the normal game everyone plays. We should be able to know that in every game played, there must be a winner and there must be a loser. So when playing any game of your choice, you must be prepared for the inevitable to Happen; it is either you win it you loss that is the ideology when gambling and also it should not be a thing of bed of roses for gamblers.

The inevitable is the reasons why you are asked to gamble responsibly and gamble with what you can afford to lose so that you do not get into any emotional trauma while gambling as the case maybe...

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Quote from: mak013 on May 17, 2023, 03:33:59 AM

I don`t have such problems. I don`t lose everything in casino and i don`t need to try to return some money back. I know that there are some gamblers that ready to bet until the have nothing to bet, but it is their problem. Someone can use this problem to get profit, but you can go to the police if you`re sure that you was cheated.

It is very important for us to make use of our head to avoid future loses. People that are big losers in gambling are losing because they don't keep attention to how they make beta which can be very risky for there healthy. When we keep losing as a gambler, we do felt the pains but atimes we might decide to keep betting maybe we can recover our funds.
Gambling iwna choice so whatsoever is the result, we have to admit it when we become a winner or loser. When I gamble and I make loses I do step down for sometime before I go back to regain my spirit to plan get back to betting again.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on May 16, 2023, 03:26:59 AM

Something happened in my locality and I just wonder if that's how we also behave in the online space.

So, they're always a group of rougues in my country, they're often sited in the market place where there's a reasonable population, what's their work???

The have things in a martch box like stones and sticks, they'll ask you to pick the one out of it that has something, depending on what the want....

At first, when you pick, they'll let you win so as to drag your attention, then subsequent wins, you'll be at the losing side and the make sure the drain your pockets entirely.

So, just last week, this lady fell a victim and she was shouting and crying, the had obviously emptied her pocket and even gotten her phone from her in the process of the gambling.

My thoughts, is this how we often feel when we lose out on a bet??
Do you wish the site can refund your money??

Gambling should be your choice, you shouldn't let anyone compel or persuade you into it.

Do I wish I get my money back when I pay the food I consumed, the services I use or the video games I purchase? No, I was offered a service or a product and in exchange I need to pay a fair price for it, and while it is obvious that lady was scammed as I find very doubtful that a group of misfits are going to offer fair games and as such we cannot say she lost her money while gambling, at the end of the day she is to blame too, as she could have easily walk away and keep her money that way.

Those are very sad things that happen when you are in great need, and for now what we must do is that when we decide to play in a casino it is as you say, no one forces us to play, or to do what others want, yes. we have money to play we must understand that we rarely win the game, and that everything is up to luck, unless it is in sports betting, which is when we are most responsible for winning or losing according to the knowledge that we have, it is our money , and we know how we are going to spend it, lose it or win it, casinos are simple options that we have to have fun.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on May 17, 2023, 02:55:05 AM

We must feel disappointed because we have experienced defeat in betting and we will experience that. We cannot hope the site will return the money we used to gamble because we have gambled on their site and lost.

Playing gambling is everyone's choice. Some want to gamble and some don't want to gamble. If you want to gamble, you must be prepared to experience defeat, where defeat is a sure thing in gambling. Meanwhile, victory will not always come to you, so prepare some money and enjoy playing gambling and stop before your money runs out.

No doubt about gambling being a choice we all have to make but its quite difficult to choose again when this act has been sink in your blood as you don't choose anymore and the act is the one who choose for you, am trying to relate to people who have been addicted to this act, its difficult to choose for them the time not to gamble as they see everytme as a potential winning time for them and they are never content with their winning and all their loses gets to their head and they always want to gamble more to get back those looses so I feel its a choice for people who see it as a fun event and not some way of making cool cash because I can swear you will end up loosing more than the cool cash you intend to win.

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Quote from: pawanjain on May 17, 2023, 12:46:55 PM

Of course, we would wish to get our money back, but once it is gone from our hands, it cannot be recovered.
This is a classic trick used by scammers to deceive beginners in gambling.
They attract them by making them win money in the beginning and then take it away in one shot.
That's why having presence of mind and self-control is a necessity to survive in today's world.

It won't be recovered because they can easily flock away. This kind of scheme is existing in every countries and it is more prominent in active cities or tourist destination. I'm always skeptical on this kind of scheme and I know why I still don't fall for it, It's because I still haven't tried it yet. This kind of scheme isn't just by doing small bets but there are times that there are thieves on the audience using the chance of you being distracted by watching or doing gambling, they can steal your valuables easily.

It's an old scheme actually but it still works I guess since this kind of scheme are still being done by someone.

What I can tell to people is that always they see these schemes around, they shouldn't give it any attention, because if the person behind the scheme spots your interest, he will use it against you, luring and tempting you somehow into the game. Once this happens, it's harder to escape. So, don't give them any chance to convince you...

You are absolutely correct with this, I've had a personal experience before when I was much younger, If I still remember vividly, my dad sent me to buy something for him in a nearby market place, I encountered three young men looking rather tattered, they were into games like op explained, when I was walking past, I stoop for a while to look, and they started beckoning on me to come and play, but I refused knowing that the money wit me was the money given to me by my dad to buy his item, but seeing I was a little boy, they did all they could to convince me but I refused, I took to my heels when one of them tried to snatch the money I was holding in my hand from me but missed.

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It sucks seeing people crying and shouting after losing some money to online gambling, are they trying to say that they don't know the risk involved? that's big lie, we all know how risky online gambling can be, that's why is not advisable to everyone, you need to trade and Gamble responsibly and never ever borrow or take loan for gambling.

What many online casinos won't tell you is, losing your money when gambling online is inevitable, there's no we won't lose money and they won't tell you about this, that is why you have to use the money that you're willing to lose and when losses happens, make sure you don't run after the losses I mean trying to make back what you lose. The results is always more losses.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on May 16, 2023, 03:26:59 AM

Something happened in my locality and I just wonder if that's how we also behave in the online space.

So, they're always a group of rougues in my country, they're often sited in the market place where there's a reasonable population, what's their work???

The have things in a martch box like stones and sticks, they'll ask you to pick the one out of it that has something, depending on what the want....

At first, when you pick, they'll let you win so as to drag your attention, then subsequent wins, you'll be at the losing side and the make sure the drain your pockets entirely.

So, just last week, this lady fell a victim and she was shouting and crying, the had obviously emptied her pocket and even gotten her phone from her in the process of the gambling.

My thoughts, is this how we often feel when we lose out on a bet??
Do you wish the site can refund your money??

Gambling should be your choice, you shouldn't let anyone compel or persuade you into it.

Do I wish I get my money back when I pay the food I consumed, the services I use or the video games I purchase? No, I was offered a service or a product and in exchange I need to pay a fair price for it, and while it is obvious that lady was scammed as I find very doubtful that a group of misfits are going to offer fair games and as such we cannot say she lost her money while gambling, at the end of the day she is to blame too, as she could have easily walk away and keep her money that way.

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Quote from: abel1337 on May 17, 2023, 12:54:01 PM

Quote from: pawanjain on May 17, 2023, 12:46:55 PM

Of course, we would wish to get our money back, but once it is gone from our hands, it cannot be recovered.
This is a classic trick used by scammers to deceive beginners in gambling.
They attract them by making them win money in the beginning and then take it away in one shot.
That's why having presence of mind and self-control is a necessity to survive in today's world.

It won't be recovered because they can easily flock away. This kind of scheme is existing in every countries and it is more prominent in active cities or tourist destination. I'm always skeptical on this kind of scheme and I know why I still don't fall for it, It's because I still haven't tried it yet. This kind of scheme isn't just by doing small bets but there are times that there are thieves on the audience using the chance of you being distracted by watching or doing gambling, they can steal your valuables easily.

It's an old scheme actually but it still works I guess since this kind of scheme are still being done by someone.

That is why we should be careful with strangers making offers to us on the streets. There are lots of rogues trying to take advantage from unwarned citizens through different methods in order to earn easy money. Some are more aggressive and abusive, like the pickpockets, while others use more subtle tricks, such as the game mentioned by OP.

What I can tell to people is that always they see these schemes around, they shouldn't give it any attention, because if the person behind the scheme spots your interest, he will use it against you, luring and tempting you somehow into the game. Once this happens, it's harder to escape. So, don't give them any chance to convince you...

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Quote from: Alisha-k on May 16, 2023, 03:26:59 AM

My thoughts, is this how we often feel when we lose out on a bet??
Do you wish the site can refund your money??

Gambling should be your choice, you shouldn't let anyone compel or persuade you into it.

Like in the story, this is something I've seen happen as well, and to be sincere, the victims most times act like they were hypnotized or something.
But in all, the fact is that, the type of gambling in the story is not a fair gambling but a scam strategy which Is disguised as gambling , so I don't blame the victims when they act the way they act because they've been obviously scammed, I just wish that people will learn and stop allowing themselves to be victims to such scams.

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Quote from: pawanjain on May 17, 2023, 12:46:55 PM

Of course, we would wish to get our money back, but once it is gone from our hands, it cannot be recovered.
This is a classic trick used by scammers to deceive beginners in gambling.
They attract them by making them win money in the beginning and then take it away in one shot.
That's why having presence of mind and self-control is a necessity to survive in today's world.

It won't be recovered because they can easily flock away. This kind of scheme is existing in every countries and it is more prominent in active cities or tourist destination. I'm always skeptical on this kind of scheme and I know why I still don't fall for it, It's because I still haven't tried it yet. This kind of scheme isn't just by doing small bets but there are times that there are thieves on the audience using the chance of you being distracted by watching or doing gambling, they can steal your valuables easily.

It's an old scheme actually but it still works I guess since this kind of scheme are still being done by someone.

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Quote from: wiss19 on May 17, 2023, 12:05:46 PM

Everything is a choice, of course, and no one can force anyone to do anything unless the person wants to do it voluntarily. These scammers with such games in marketplaces and public places do persuade you to play but they don't compel you since at the end of the day, it's your own choice if you want to play or not, you can always just walk away.

What makes us play is our greed and not anything else, even in online gambling, our greed makes us gamble initially and then it makes us gamble more and more sometimes to win more and sometimes to recover what has been lost.

This option only applies to people who have never experienced addiction, they can just leave if they have never experienced such a big win. It would be very difficult for a gambler to escape his curiosity, except for those who gamble just for fun when they are tired from work. The beginning of the downfall of a gambler is nothing but the factor of greed, always wanting something more. Addicted when you win and curious when you lose, in fact, this cycle will continue to repeat itself. Not a few I see people who experience destruction in their lives, not infrequently those who end their lives by committing suicide.

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