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Quote from: klidex on May 20, 2023, 01:47:22 AM

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It can be a strategy - the gambler can make risky bets with high odds to get big prize. It is possible situation and even i have a friend who doesn`t bet if the odd less 2.5. Of course his win rate is about average, but as he says - he has surplus in his bets. The problem if the gambler tries to return his money and increase risk and bets. And of course you have to make a research before bet.

I think your friend has a high commitment in every bet he chooses even though the risk is high but I'm sure he is good at analyzing and predicting overall.
Choosing odds 2 over it is the right choice for him because he usually already has a way to recover the losses if there is a surprise or your friend chooses on the main sports bet or on the favorite club?
But even though it's too risky it has become a choice.

He was very confident with his bets and he chose them. And I believe that it was not the first he do this for sure, but it was been used many times and probably earned some money from it and so he keep doing that. It is not just a choice but it was his strategy. He for sure knows what will happen to him and no reason he would blame others for his loss.
As a gambler, I know what strategy works for me but of course, we have to accept that not all the time works, losses are still possible in gambling no matter what we do.

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Those schemes can be in every place where poverty is at high. It's true that gambling is a choice and when you've lost, you just can't ask a refund to the operators.

The same goes with the typical gambling that we does that if we lose, there's no way the casino will give us that money back. That's why they've got features of self exclusion for those addicted gamblers.

As OP have shared a story, it consists of bought tricksters and gambling.

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Quote from: QueenVera on May 18, 2023, 04:03:23 PM

Gambking as always been a choice just as everything in life is a matter of our choices and most times regrets always come at the end and that's why there is a warning that only money we can afford to lose should be used for gambling.
I'm sorry the lady had to face this incidence but since the games she went for isn't registered and are just street games, then I just hope she learns her lesson and never get into gambling not when ahe isn't ready for the consequences just incase things don't go as planned.

I do wish most times that the casino can just refund me .y .knew when I make losses especially when I never budgeted for any loss fmbefkre visiting the casino.

She obviously has learned her lesson, the guy who made her gamble with his was actually a scammer and these scammers are pretty good with their job of scamming random people crossing by, they are so persuasive that you won't even notice or realize that you are being scammed until the end when you have lost everything and they are gone.

They are so clever and come in teams to trap you in, they have hired people that act like other players like you and they manage to win according to their plan and that is when you start believing in it more.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on May 16, 2023, 02:26:59 AM

Something happened in my locality and I just wonder if that's how we also behave in the online space.

So, they're always a group of rougues in my country, they're often sited in the market place where there's a reasonable population, what's their work???

The have things in a martch box like stones and sticks, they'll ask you to pick the one out of it that has something, depending on what the want....

At first, when you pick, they'll let you win so as to drag your attention, then subsequent wins, you'll be at the losing side and the make sure the drain your pockets entirely.

So, just last week, this lady fell a victim and she was shouting and crying, the had obviously emptied her pocket and even gotten her phone from her in the process of the gambling.

I have sighted these sets of individuals many times at different locations, haven heard about them and their gimmicks on how they use fetish means to attract their victims immediately their attention is drawn to the games being displayed.

Just like online gambling sites with unfair gambling patterns this kind is in our physical environment and it's been rigged through some supernatural means preying on the vulnerability of their victims by milking them financially to the last penny.

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My thoughts, is this how we often feel when we lose out on a bet??
Do you wish the site can refund your money?

Losing out on our bet or bets is normal for a gambler and there's no need feeling bad about it in as much as you weren't compelled to. In same way you would have felt cool winning, same should be applied when we gets a loss to.

I haven't had that thought or feeling of having the gambling site to refund me of my money I use in gambling and I believe that's because I always use an amount of money I can always easily let go should I lose out.
People that do have the feeling of having their money being refunded are people that uses all they have including their savings to gambling, which is a very bad habit.

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Quote from: mak013 on May 20, 2023, 01:06:31 AM

It can be a strategy - the gambler can make risky bets with high odds to get big prize. It is possible situation and even i have a friend who doesn`t bet if the odd less 2.5. Of course his win rate is about average, but as he says - he has surplus in his bets. The problem if the gambler tries to return his money and increase risk and bets. And of course you have to make a research before bet.

I think your friend has a high commitment in every bet he chooses even though the risk is high but I'm sure he is good at analyzing and predicting overall.
Choosing odds 2 over it is the right choice for him because he usually already has a way to recover the losses if there is a surprise or your friend chooses on the main sports bet or on the favorite club?
But even though it's too risky it has become a choice.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on May 20, 2023, 12:37:54 AM

well blaming someone will never change the reality that we are loser in some time.
there are others that succeed while many are losing but still gambling continues to grow and that is because of nature as we are excited and looking for higher chances of winning.
I agree that we must blame gullibility and change this in future to not become addicted.

The best thing to do is to avoid getting caught up with them I whatever ways, and if possible never let their practices attract you in any ways, and you are right when you talked about gullibility being a reason for most online scam but then also there are other factors that can contribute to scam reality such as manipulations and other fetish practices that work on the emotions of the victims.

In this case in the ops is not about losing but being robbed by those scheme operators and their accomplish, so even or not you lose no one wins unless the scheme operator who ends up stealing from everybody and this practice is more or less scam more than it is gambling.

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Quote from: libert19 on May 20, 2023, 12:04:03 AM

Petty people are found both online and offline, one should stay away from them. It was woman's fault to bother with these people in first place, just like if you get scammed online, gullibility is to be blamed.

well blaming someone will never change the reality that we are loser in some time.
there are others that succeed while many are losing but still gambling continue to grow and that is because of the nature as we are excited and looking for higher chances of winning.
I agree that we must blame gullibility and change this in future to not become addicted .

If we are unable to handle our loss in gambling we should not gamble in the first place only because we will always get sad or blame others for our loss so better stay away from it and keep your funds safe with you.There are people who will win and others loose as your luck will determine the outcome but you should not copy someone else and enjoy with your budget.

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Yes, you are right, mate and in short, gambler who is losing a lot is normal, it is because they are too greedy in betting they are not thinking what are the possible outcome before they bet. And we all know that in the world of gambling, gamblers must control themselves to prevent addiction and prevent such loss because gambling is all about luck and analyzing for example in basketball sports you should know and analyze who's the stronger team so that you can put your bet in them and have a high percentage of winning.

It can be a strategy - the gambler can make risky bets with high odds to get big prize. It is possible situation and even i have a friend who doesn`t bet if the odd less 2.5. Of course his win rate is about average, but as he says - he has surplus in his bets. The problem if the gambler tries to return his money and increase risk and bets. And of course you have to make a research before bet.

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Quote from: libert19 on May 20, 2023, 12:04:03 AM

Petty people are found both online and offline, one should stay away from them. It was woman's fault to bother with these people in first place, just like if you get scammed online, gullibility is to be blamed.

well blaming someone will never change the reality that we are loser in some time.
there are others that succeed while many are losing but still gambling continue to grow and that is because of the nature as we are excited and looking for higher chances of winning.
I agree that we must blame gullibility and change this in future to not become addicted .

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Petty people are found both online and offline, one should stay away from them. It was woman's fault to bother with these people in first place, just like if you get scammed online, gullibility is to be blamed.

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In fact the players have various motivations to do it some do it for fun to pass the time, others to earn extra income some are professional players but it must be a free personal choice

Even if they do it for fun, that doesn't mean they can use their money to gamble. They have to pay attention that there is a big risk of losing at gambling and if they can't control themselves, they can lose a lot of money, which has been proven by the many people who lose at gambling. If you still want to play gambling, you need good control not to lose much money. Playing gambling is a choice; no one forces you to play and let other people play.

An experienced gamblers will common eye the little things we out in consideration while gambling and concentrate on his bet he's playing, that alone takes their time enough and they are much satisfied in such, it's not every gambler that always focus on the amount he loose from the one invested and the games he won, thinking about that alone will be a big discouragement for some people and that's why they don't rely on what they get through gambling for their sustainability, they always have their own means of income they are fine with.

That is what separates experienced gamblers from inexperienced gamblers. Those experienced in playing gambling will make their calculations so they don't experience a lot of loss. But those who only play gambling for fun also have no desire to chase victory because their target is just to have fun playing gambling. But it will be different for people who want to get money from gambling. They will be eager to get it even though they know it will definitely require a lot of money. And that's where they must understand that playing gambling is each person's choice.

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Quote from: Haunebu on May 19, 2023, 08:27:50 AM

The title is seriously dumb as hell frankly speaking. Who isn't aware of the fact that gambling is a choice? Everything is literally a choice in life. Op should have renamed the title to something more interesting.

Also, the incident that he mentioned isn't something new. Such stuff always happens here and there in the gambling world which is why gamblers should always invest only what they are willing to lose.

However, the majority don't follow this rule and end up regretting it later on.

Although I hate to admit it but you were right. Problems like this are always there even in different community specially when there is money involved, and since gambling is very prominent in every society, it is bound that this will happen sooner or later. Even if we say that we always here this kind of warnings regarding "gamble what you can afford to lose", it is quite common to hear stories such as they are tempted by their own greed, and could not control their emotions ended up regretting their very own decisions. Which is why I don't really like to meddle if people wanted to do whatever they want since they will learn their own lessons maybe sooner or later but that's their own situation to handle.

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My thoughts, is this how we often feel when we lose out on a bet??
Do you wish the site can refund your money??

Gambling should be your choice, you shouldn't let anyone compel or persuade you into it.

Generally, if money is lost in gambling, then the gambler is not supposed to like it, just like if I lose money instead of profit in gambling, then I feel very bad. But gambling will lose money, it is a normal rule of gambling. There are some rules in gambling under which everyone has to adapt and be included in gambling. But I don't know whether there are any rules under gambling to refund that money after losing in gambling. I have faced gambling losses many times till date but till date I have not seen any instance of money refund. However, I don't know if refunds can happen in traditional or offline gambling.

Not sure about that refund, unless there's a certain promotion that you participate as even you lose you can have your money back, there's some gambling site who creates this kind of promotion, but in a regular basis, there's no gambling site where you can ask for a refund after you lose your bets, that's the risk inside gambling, the chance of losing is really unpredictable though most of the time gamblers choose to have a 50/50 chance but most of the results or results still in favor of the house.

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Gambling is up to us whether we do it or not. As long as you enter this game, you should know that this is a game that will quickly lose the money you bet on it and you can also quickly increase your money here. It depends on whether you get lucky in your gambling.
Therefore, what you bet here is that you are ready to lose that you will not regret, as if the money you use here is not needed, this is the mindset you should have as a gambler entering a casino in the crypto gambling space.

OP's case is a bit different from normal gambling as it's obviously a scam. So, this is a comparison between choosing to gamble and choosing to get scammed.
When you go to a casino or an online gambling site, most of them are regulated and relatively fair, as long as you can accept that your odds are lower than they appear because of the house edge.
Street gambling is usually scam meant to steal your money and these people will lure you in promising free rolls and stuff and then they'll steal from you saying there was no free roll, you were supposed to play for money from the beginning.

Street gambling is very dangerous as we all know that there's no rebate and bonuses I'm street gambling, some of a street gambling is a scamm one and the best example of that are table game. Like my country once you play in table game then you will loss a lot because of their games. When you first saw in the table then the owner of the table want to blow your mind and they will give you a chance to win but in the long run if you can't control your self you will loss.

In the games that are from the Street I do not recommend that they do it , because that is as you say , it is very likely that there are scams, there is no control by any Organization, they can do what they want , because they have the support of many people they hire, and most of them don't have Controls to defend , there's Everything on the street that doesn't have normal casino control , I don't play because I don't like to risk so much , Besides , I'm not one to be on the streets , the people who are in the streets handle more the dialect, Conversations , one does not fit much into the things they do.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on May 16, 2023, 02:26:59 AM

So, just last week, this lady fell a victim and she was shouting and crying, the had obviously emptied her pocket and even gotten her phone from her in the process of the gambling.

My thoughts, is this how we often feel when we lose out on a bet??
Do you wish the site can refund your money??

Gambling should be your choice, you shouldn't let anyone compel or persuade you into it.

if you are forced by someone to do gambling, you can guide and report this to the authorities because there is an element of coercion, but if you gamble fully consciously and deposit a certain amount of money with high expectations you will win, so there is no element of coercion in that, you it is the one who must be fully responsible for all the consequences of the gambling that you do, it's all just a matter of mindset.

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Quote from: Agbe on May 19, 2023, 08:58:58 AM

Online gambling and those guys are very big different. I visit this thread because of the topic. Yes gambling is a choice and not by force which is spelled out by the online and offline line casino halls. But those rogues are not gamblers but scammers, they know what they are doing. They gave a random numbers for you to pick and let you win at first and changed everything for you to loss everlasting. Those are tactics of scamming. They have not carry those methods to the casino hall but always on the market place and the school environments. They used different objects to carry out their criminal activities.
Online casino never compelled anyone to play game but those rogues compelled and received people to play those games. Most of them are even using magic to lure customers to come. So when you see those guys please don't go closer always be on your moving track.

Very correct and exactly the same thought I shared in my comment earlier, It is even a mistake on OPs part to compare or liken those rogues to gamblers, from all indication, they are nothing but scammers, I've witnessed a similarly scene where a sales girl used her bosses money to join in such a Game, at first, they made her believe she was winning, until when they noticed she was about to request for her winning so as to leave, they immediately turned the table against her and she start losing, not that she was actually losing, they were making her to lose, until she was left with nothing, the guys disappeared and she started carrying, when asked why she even played such game in the first place, she said it was like she was hypnotized, that she didn't actually know what she was doing until those guys left.
I felt pity for her and in other for her not to lose her job, I had to support her with more than half of the amount she lost to the scammers.

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Online gambling and those guys are very big different. I visit this thread because of the topic. Yes gambling is a choice and not by force which is spelled out by the online and offline line casino halls. But those rogues are not gamblers but scammers, they know what they are doing. They gave a random numbers for you to pick and let you win at first and changed everything for you to loss everlasting. Those are tactics of scamming. They have not carry those methods to the casino hall but always on the market place and the school environments. They used different objects to carry out their criminal activities.
Online casino never compelled anyone to play game but those rogues compelled and received people to play those games. Most of them are even using magic to lure customers to come. So when you see those guys please don't go closer always be on your moving track.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on May 16, 2023, 02:26:59 AM

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Gambling should be your choice, you shouldn't let anyone compel or persuade you into it.

It should be a personal choice.
But unfortunately, gambling often uses not quite honest attraction of attention.

For example, if ordinary people arrange gambling on the street or fairs, then their forgers act in collusion with them. They pretend to be passers-by and then start gambling. At the same time, the manager of this game plays along with them. That's how the interest in society heats up. And then, seeing such an example of a lucky win, weak-willed people often begin to participate. They are literally drawn into the game because they believe that the winnings are fair.
Everyone needs to be careful and know such schemes of deception.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on May 16, 2023, 02:26:59 AM

My thoughts, is this how we often feel when we lose out on a bet??
Do you wish the site can refund your money??

Gambling should be your choice, you shouldn't let anyone compel or persuade you into it.

Generally, if money is lost in gambling, then the gambler is not supposed to like it, just like if I lose money instead of profit in gambling, then I feel very bad. But gambling will lose money, it is a normal rule of gambling. There are some rules in gambling under which everyone has to adapt and be included in gambling. But I don't know whether there are any rules under gambling to refund that money after losing in gambling. I have faced gambling losses many times till date but till date I have not seen any instance of money refund. However, I don't know if refunds can happen in traditional or offline gambling.

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The thing is.... it should not come down to the point where you are looking for reasons to blame someone else for your losses. You should gamble for fun and enjoy it, if it is not fun anymore... then you should stop.

Casinos have to make money to keep the doors open for you to gamble and they use the house edge to do that... people should just accept that and play games with a more favorable RTP... if they want to play for a longer period. Roll Eyes

Right you gamble at your own risk which we know in the starting only but sometimes people can't handle their loss as they have wagered more which they can't afford to loose so they start blaming casinos for it but that brings no good to them.As you said it should be in fun manner always with stop limits and you should enjoy it.

When it comes to losing to the amount of the stop limit for a player, especially a very gambling person, the thought still arises in his head that he has already lost a lot, it can’t be that he’s not so lucky, it doesn’t happen !
According to the theory of probability, if he goes over the stop limit quite a bit, then he will immediately win back. And this thought usually haunts the gambler. And he decides to go beyond the stop limit, and after that, if he is not lucky again, he thinks that he will calmly stop playing. But it often turns out that he is “unlucky again”, but the thought in his head still persuades him to continue and try again.
And then everything goes like an avalanche.
And of course, it is important to still force yourself to come to terms with the loss and stop playing on time, when the process has not yet gone according to a catastrophic scenario. This can end up in a lot of trouble for a lot of people. And so it happens.
And quite often. Especially with not very experienced players.

- This often happens to gamblers who lack self-control and self-discipline. But if they can do that duality, for sure when they reach the limits they will stop and not try to play anymore.

That's why the mindset of a responsible gambler should be that when the money is used up and go home, don't stay at the online casino any longer and just come back in the next few days. Maybe when they come back they will be lucky. That's how it should be anyway.

This is really the problem, as they can't control themselves. Either they will go back on that day or the next day, or they are able to control themselves, which is more likely the case for a few of them, and a few of them are really addicted to gambling. That is why you should always have a proper budget or, like, have someone control your funds or monitor you just to be safe that you can't spend more money out of it.

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