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Quote from: Fredomago on October 30, 2024, 02:16:04 PM

Your decision needs to be aligned with how you set your limits and expectations and not by just following your emotions which most of the time been dominated by greed and aggression.

If you doubt things are as you say my friend, I think that first of all we as humans, before we are traders, market speculators, even investors, well we should be people who should imagine all the scenarios, if we play badly it is lost money, but if we play well we double the money, but at what price will we take that risk? Are we in a position to take that risk? We should imagine the worst scenario which is to lose all the money, and if possible, what should we do next? If we have an alternative plan that does not affect our lives in an impressive way, then we take it, but if not? What would we do? That is what before playing we should think, analyze and decide how far we can risk , for me that is playing intelligently.

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Quote from: DaNNy001 on November 06, 2024, 03:19:21 PM

Quote from: Sanitough on October 06, 2024, 06:06:35 PM

Or it coudl be a recipe to disaster if you think that way....

It's a recipe for disaster indeed..I was having a conversation with a female friend and I told her I lost some money in gambling but I was shocked when she told me that she lost some money too, I didn't know she was a gambler until she told me..I asked why she couldn't stop even after multiple losses, she replied, it's seemed like the fastest way to make money..The moment you have this thought you will start losing because you are playing out of desperation to make money, the same way it's easy to win that's the same way you can lose easily.

The reason for continuing to gamble is not about how to get easy money, because I think that is not the right reason for you to continue gambling. Because, when you continue to gamble even though you realize that you often lose rather than win, then the right reason is only about addiction and having fun in the gambling game itself, and not about being a quick way to make money. Because after all, if you have a reason to make quickmoney in gambling, then you can't lose too often. So, the one thing that keeps you gambling is about addiction, because when you are addicted you no longer care about losing or winning.

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Quote from: Sanitough on October 06, 2024, 06:06:35 PM

Or it coudl be a recipe to disaster if you think that way....

It's a recipe for disaster indeed..I was having a conversation with a female friend and I told her I lost some money in gambling but I was shocked when she told me that she lost some money too, I didn't know she was a gambler until she told me..I asked why she couldn't stop even after multiple losses, she replied, it's seemed like the fastest way to make money..The moment you have this thought you will start losing because you are playing out of desperation to make money, the same way it's easy to win that's the same way you can lose easily.

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Quote from: Ondekinecakabilirim on November 03, 2024, 08:33:41 AM

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In our world there are not so many free entertainment so everything has to be paid for and gambling is no exception. Those who believe that gambling is an easy way to make money initially has a wrong idea about this area of entertainment. Win in gambling of course you can, but always remember that the winnings are formed from the lost money other players, because gambling is a zero-sum game.

Actually in this case I think they are of the same mind because at the end of the day gambling is not such a thing but it does become a selfish last resort done by expecting luck to favor them.

They realize that gambling is not a suitable place but this is the last way when they want to get entertainment by expecting to benefit from the entertainment created especially for some people who do seem to impose their will they will try all ways to get profit here but it is precisely things like this that make them destroyed in the end because the money that has been collected slowly belongs to the casino because indeed the luck they have will all remain the same where the gambler will lose to the dealer.

if they have ever felt victory in gambling they will have a sense of curiosity and put hope for victory in the days needed. without realizing it they will fall into addiction. no matter how mature people are, their place is hypocritical, they can keep secrets about the destruction and pain of their own actions. because I see many people no matter how mature when their economic exams must have a day where they will act to play gambling

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on November 06, 2024, 08:24:40 AM

Addicted gamblers will usually start to realize it themselves when they finally sell their property for their uncontrolled gambling needs. and when everything is gone, maybe only regret is left.
Gamblers who finally consider gambling as a source of income are those who previously got some wins that could exceed their income from their jobs. thinking getting wins from the game is easier and produces more than having to work hard to work and be tiring.

We are humans and our psychology pushes us to strange decisions. For example, if we don't like our job, we will look for any hobby that can give us income on the side, just to quit our job. And we will also look for those who are successfully engaged in gambling, to say to ourselves "this guy lives happily and richly, and I can do the same". But in reality, this is a dead end and not a way out of the situation.

I think it is a decision that occurs because of the urge of a stressful situation, such as having financial problems, having a job with a minimum wage that is unable to cover all living expenses or being in debt because of something can also trigger mental and psychological stress on a person, and of course as we know that when someone is influenced by a lot of pressure from various problems they experience, then of course various decisions that are far from rational are very possible for them to do, as you exemplified, namely it is very possible for them to assume that they can get a big win like what other people get, such as streamers in a show until finally the idea actually leads them to a much worse situation. On the other hand, this is the reason why common sense and rational thinking must always be maintained and used every time you find something new.

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Quote from: mirakal on October 06, 2024, 06:58:11 PM

Gambling sites can be regulated by the government but talking about control and discipline on gambling, it's not on the government already but should come from the gamblers' mindset. Otherwise, if they pursue gambling without setting limits and just gamble with all their funds, then it's highly possible that they will end up losing all their hard-earned money and become homeless due to their gambling addiction. Take note that falling into poverty because of gambling habits is always a choice because of wrong decision making and irresponsible gambling habits.

You are right, when it comes to self control and discipline the government are incapable of doing that because it's an individual thing, the main reason why a lot of gamblers keep chasing the market is because they try to get back what they have lost, this would make them lose their hard-earned money. Like you said wrong decision making and irresponsible gambling habits can lead to poverty, it's your responsibility as a gambler to keep things balanced, stake Only what you can afford to lose.

the government can try to teach you discipline and self control but for real, do you really think they care?
politicians are way more interested and sucking your monetary energy until the last cent of it and leave you
it's crazy but it's just how it is

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on November 06, 2024, 08:24:40 AM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on November 06, 2024, 08:16:42 AM

If they rely on gambling to solve the poverty problem, they will not see that chance instead will lose more and more money. They should consider not to use gambling as a source of income because that will not easy to win from gambling. They better to use the other wat that will have the opportunity to make money than playing gambling. If they can be realistic and see what happens to other people who does the same thing like them, they will thinks that they don't have to do that and even will not playing gambling. Gambling can makes them addicted and if that happens to them, they will not realize the gambling addiction because they only thinks that they are still okay.

Addicted gamblers will usually start to realize it themselves when they finally sell their property for their uncontrolled gambling needs. and when everything is gone, maybe only regret is left.
Gamblers who finally consider gambling as a source of income are those who previously got some wins that could exceed their income from their jobs. thinking getting wins from the game is easier and produces more than having to work hard to work and be tiring.

We are humans and our psychology pushes us to strange decisions. For example, if we don't like our job, we will look for any hobby that can give us income on the side, just to quit our job. And we will also look for those who are successfully engaged in gambling, to say to ourselves "this guy lives happily and richly, and I can do the same". But in reality, this is a dead end and not a way out of the situation.

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Quote from: ? on November 06, 2024, 04:01:48 AM

Everyone knows that gambling can cause stress if played excessively, but it can also be enjoyable when done responsibly. The key is to carefully consider how much you're playing with and ensure it's money you can afford to lose.. you know, sometimes, we fool ourselves and end up using money we need...(well it's the human nature)... Should the government set regulations to protect people from addiction? It might be beneficial if done in a soft manner, but it should also respect people’s freedom.

When someone is bind by greed, you can't cast that away from him and that's why anytime I see people addicted to gambling, it's not because they are lost but they put greed before their eyes and that's has been the driven force behind their playing a n when greed preceed your logic, you will lose and when you lose and you don't have control mechanism, you will become addicted and that's end of it unless the grace of God pull you out from that valley of loss.

If gambling will make people rich, casino wouldn't have exist today because many of them will be out of market, if casino will makes one rich, most of them.are going to limit the money to be win in a day, in a week or in a month but because you can't be rich from gambling, they keep it fair so people can assume and dream all they want and then lose to them, that's why you see them around and more of them keep coming around with different promotions.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on November 06, 2024, 08:16:42 AM

If they rely on gambling to solve the poverty problem, they will not see that chance instead will lose more and more money. They should consider not to use gambling as a source of income because that will not easy to win from gambling. They better to use the other wat that will have the opportunity to make money than playing gambling. If they can be realistic and see what happens to other people who does the same thing like them, they will thinks that they don't have to do that and even will not playing gambling. Gambling can makes them addicted and if that happens to them, they will not realize the gambling addiction because they only thinks that they are still okay.

Addicted gamblers will usually start to realize it themselves when they finally sell their property for their uncontrolled gambling needs. and when everything is gone, maybe only regret is left.
Gamblers who finally consider gambling as a source of income are those who previously got some wins that could exceed their income from their jobs. thinking getting wins from the game is easier and produces more than having to work hard to work and be tiring.

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Quote from: South Park on November 05, 2024, 04:57:30 PM

We like to think about ourselves as rational and being driven by logic but this is not true, people often rely on their gut feelings to take important decisions, so you could do everything in your power to show a person that their gambling is getting out of control and they may need to reduce it a little bit, and instead of seeing the truth and be thankful for it, they will think that you are trying to control their lives and accuse you of doing so, and this will happen even if you were being extremely respectful while doing so.

The gambler take their important decisions at various points,mostly while start playing the gambling.If the gamblers focus on the game profit,the gamblers will earn the money.But the gamblers should play the game with more ethical and more tactical game to avoid the gambling loss of money.If you advice the gambling addicted person,if he is in your close relationship.Surely you can get away that gamblers from the gambling addiction.The gamblers should advice the gambling addicted person with more polite to make them to accept your advice.

If they rely on gambling to solve the poverty problem, they will not see that chance instead will lose more and more money. They should consider not to use gambling as a source of income because that will not easy to win from gambling. They better to use the other wat that will have the opportunity to make money than playing gambling. If they can be realistic and see what happens to other people who does the same thing like them, they will thinks that they don't have to do that and even will not playing gambling. Gambling can makes them addicted and if that happens to them, they will not realize the gambling addiction because they only thinks that they are still okay.

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Quote from: uche6215 on October 06, 2024, 05:50:36 PM

With gambling gaining awareness each day and the population of those gambling increasing it's calls for concern as many has fallen victim to this money sucking game that makes people not to save their money but loss it.
But let's take a critical look at this very sensitive matter called gambling has anyone really made it from gambling, is gambling worth it and if really anyone has made it through gambling can he/she proudly tell the younger ones that gambling is what going into.
Infact gambling has made many to go broke and live in poverty many has lost their life savings and even pension in gambling, I am of the view that gambling should be controlled by the government of each country and that there should be a maximum amount of money one should use in gambling.

Everyone knows that gambling can cause stress if played excessively, but it can also be enjoyable when done responsibly. The key is to carefully consider how much you're playing with and ensure it's money you can afford to lose.. you know, sometimes, we fool ourselves and end up using money we need...(well it's the human nature)... Should the government set regulations to protect people from addiction? It might be beneficial if done in a soft manner, but it should also respect people’s freedom.

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In our world there are not so many free entertainment so everything has to be paid for and gambling is no exception. Those who believe that gambling is an easy way to make money initially has a wrong idea about this area of entertainment. Win in gambling of course you can, but always remember that the winnings are formed from the lost money other players, because gambling is a zero-sum game.

Actually in this case I think they are of the same mind because at the end of the day gambling is not such a thing but it does become a selfish last resort done by expecting luck to favor them.

They realize that gambling is not a suitable place but this is the last way when they want to get entertainment by expecting to benefit from the entertainment created especially for some people who do seem to impose their will they will try all ways to get profit here but it is precisely things like this that make them destroyed in the end because the money that has been collected slowly belongs to the casino because indeed the luck they have will all remain the same where the gambler will lose to the dealer.

There are different takes coming from different people who involve themselves into gambling, more on the decision they make especially those who see gambling as opportunities to earn, even they are trying to get entertain they are also aiming for the benefits, they will only realize that they already doing wrong when the already lose a lot.

Learning things the hardway, when you already loses a lot to the point that you already emptied your savings, it's possible to happen to those who already addicted and unable to control their emotions.

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Quote from: South Park on November 05, 2024, 04:57:30 PM

We like to think about ourselves as rational and being driven by logic but this is not true, people often rely on their gut feelings to take important decisions, so you could do everything in your power to show a person that their gambling is getting out of control and they may need to reduce it a little bit, and instead of seeing the truth and be thankful for it, they will think that you are trying to control their lives and accuse you of doing so, and this will happen even if you were being extremely respectful while doing so.

The gambler take their important decisions at various points,mostly while start playing the gambling.If the gamblers focus on the game profit,the gamblers will earn the money.But the gamblers should play the game with more ethical and more tactical game to avoid the gambling loss of money.If you advice the gambling addicted person,if he is in your close relationship.Surely you can get away that gamblers from the gambling addiction.The gamblers should advice the gambling addicted person with more polite to make them to accept your advice.

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Quote from: madnessteat on November 03, 2024, 08:42:10 AM

Quote from: Ondekinecakabilirim on November 03, 2024, 08:33:41 AM

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In our world there are not so many free entertainment so everything has to be paid for and gambling is no exception. Those who believe that gambling is an easy way to make money initially has a wrong idea about this area of entertainment. Win in gambling of course you can, but always remember that the winnings are formed from the lost money other players, because gambling is a zero-sum game.

Actually in this case I think they are of the same mind because at the end of the day gambling is not such a thing but it does become a selfish last resort done by expecting luck to favor them.

They realize that gambling is not a suitable place but this is the last way when they want to get entertainment by expecting to benefit from the entertainment created especially for some people who do seem to impose their will they will try all ways to get profit here but it is precisely things like this that make them destroyed in the end because the money that has been collected slowly belongs to the casino because indeed the luck they have will all remain the same where the gambler will lose to the dealer.

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Quote from: gunhell16 on October 06, 2024, 10:24:10 PM

Most people know that gambling does nothing good for gamblers; these are facts that cannot be denied. That's why there are only two: either you become addicted to gambling or you become responsible in a way that you can control yourself while you gamble without being driven by greed.

Because if you don't have self-control or discipline in gambling, you will end up with an addiction, which, in the end, if left to happen, can lead to destruction with various results. This is reality and facts that actually happen most of the time.

if you have a wisdom you will prosper with the gambling because you will have a regulation or a gambling limit even though you are addicted in gambling you will have a regulation that will make you to not spend much in gambling many people consider gambling as the one that make them to be poor that is why in Society people see gamblers as irresponsible people but myself I quote them wrong every time, because nobody has become somebody through gambling it is true gambling strategies that makes the person to become somebody to gambling if you want to benefit from gambling you need to exempt to yourself from greediness you need to understand that gambling is all about risk any profit you make in gambling is valuable no profit is not in gambling because it is something that I can take off your money without refunding it so if you have opportune to proceed no matter how big or small it is I will advise you to cash it out instead of extending it to be more bigger

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on November 05, 2024, 07:15:04 AM

we should always show how we care about our friends but in a loving way, sometimes this is hard, of course, but truth is better than lying any day of the week
if a foundation of a relationship is being honest with each other it will be easier to solve emotional problems that can arrive
like let's say your wife or husband spending the kids school payment on a parlay

We can be truthful to them.

But being caring as that gives them the wrong impression. Instead of thinking positively that their friends are worried about their gambling thoughts.

They're going to think of those tips badly and resort that these friends are fake and they simply want them put down.

We like to think about ourselves as rational and being driven by logic but this is not true, people often rely on their gut feelings to take important decisions, so you could do everything in your power to show a person that their gambling is getting out of control and they may need to reduce it a little bit, and instead of seeing the truth and be thankful for it, they will think that you are trying to control their lives and accuse you of doing so, and this will happen even if you were being extremely respectful while doing so.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on November 05, 2024, 07:15:04 AM

Quote from: jossiel on November 02, 2024, 04:15:02 PM

I don't want to blame them but they should blame themselves and admit that they've done themselves a wrong decision that has become a burden not just to their relatives and families but also to their friends.

As you're saying, if they are our close friends we can't just push them away when they're in need. But learning the hardest ways with how we're going to approach them will also matter as a sign of tough love.

we should always show how we care about our friends but in a loving way, sometimes this is hard, of course, but truth is better than lying any day of the week
if a foundation of a relationship is being honest with each other it will be easier to solve emotional problems that can arrive
like let's say your wife or husband spending the kids school payment on a parlay

We can be truthful to them.

But being caring as that gives them the wrong impression. Instead of thinking positively that their friends are worried about their gambling thoughts.

They're going to think of those tips badly and resort that these friends are fake and they simply want them put down.

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Quote from: Frankolala on November 05, 2024, 09:34:24 AM

Quote from: I_Anime on November 03, 2024, 10:38:24 AM

That's just it , gambling is meant to entertain not any means of getting rich quick and easy , that's why most folks with the getting rich through gambling quick mentality, usually get themselves rekt in gambling, because to gambling is for fun and if you are lucky to win take the extra bucks you won as a bonus to the entertainment, that's why we shouldn't put much at stake then rather that we can risk and we can easily recover when lost .

I agree with you that we should see gambling as entertainment that we pay for, so that you can understand how much you will let go on having fun without expecting any reward. If after the game, you won your bet, you should see it as a bonus to appreciate your patronage. Maybe, that will help you discipline yourself and limit your losses. However, some gamblers are alwys carried away when they are gambling, and if they don't exhaust their bankroll, they will never stop.

Yes, that is a good idea and perspective on gambling, it should be as you said that a gambler should see gambling as a place of entertainment that must be paid for, just like other types of entertainment such as going to the cinema or to tourist attractions that certainly require some money as a fee that will be exchanged for pleasure, at first glance this looks like two different entertainments but a gambler should and should view gambling as they view general entertainment, because that way they will not put any hope in winning.

In the sense that as you said that victory should be considered a bonus that comes occasionally after the pleasure we have received, but it turns out that the fact is not like that, right? yes as you said that the majority of gamblers get carried away, but in my opinion from here we can conclude that from the beginning gamblers come not with a perspective like when they see general entertainment but they come because of the thought that they can multiply their money in gambling and clearly that is wrong thinking.

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Quote from: Su-asa on November 05, 2024, 08:41:20 AM

Quote from: mirakal on October 06, 2024, 06:58:11 PM

Gambling sites can be regulated by the government but talking about control and discipline on gambling, it's not on the government already but should come from the gamblers' mindset. Otherwise, if they pursue gambling without setting limits and just gamble with all their funds, then it's highly possible that they will end up losing all their hard-earned money and become homeless due to their gambling addiction. Take note that falling into poverty because of gambling habits is always a choice because of wrong decision making and irresponsible gambling habits.

You are right, when it comes to self control and discipline the government are incapable of doing that because it's an individual thing, the main reason why a lot of gamblers keep chasing the market is because they try to get back what they have lost, this would make them lose their hard-earned money. Like you said wrong decision making and irresponsible gambling habits can lead to poverty, it's your responsibility as a gambler to keep things balanced, stake Only what you can afford to lose.

Which is why I believe losing can be the spark of gambling addiction. Once a gambler keeps on losing, the urge for revenge will linger and he or she will think about depositing more until he achieve the goal of either ROI or a bit of profit. Then, it never actually ends there because when he gets all back, he will try to gamble again thinking he might be lucky to achieve such a difficult task against the house.
The government won't help, they can regulate gambling places and online casinos but it ends there. What gamblers will do is out of their control and I think that's the reason why it could go all the way to poverty. Gamblers can sometimes get out of control and they will chase anything until they reach it.

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Quote from: I_Anime on November 03, 2024, 10:38:24 AM

Quote from: madnessteat on November 03, 2024, 08:42:10 AM

Quote from: Ondekinecakabilirim on November 03, 2024, 08:33:41 AM

^

In our world there are not so many free entertainment so everything has to be paid for and gambling is no exception. Those who believe that gambling is an easy way to make money initially has a wrong idea about this area of entertainment. Win in gambling of course you can, but always remember that the winnings are formed from the lost money other players, because gambling is a zero-sum game.

That's just it , gambling is meant to entertain not any means of getting rich quick and easy , that's why most folks with the getting rich through gambling quick mentality, usually get themselves rekt in gambling, because to gambling is for fun and if you are lucky to win take the extra bucks you won as a bonus to the entertainment, that's why we shouldn't put much at stake then rather that we can risk and we can easily recover when lost .

I agree with you that we should see gambling as entertainment that we pay for, so that you can understand how much you will let go on having fun without expecting any reward. If after the game, you won your bet, you should see it as a bonus to appreciate your patronage. Maybe, that will help you discipline yourself and limit your losses. However, some gamblers are alwys carried away when they are gambling, and if they don't exhaust their bankroll, they will never stop.

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