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Quote from: DoublerHunter on September 10, 2019, 06:47:28 AM

Quote from: Kasabus on September 10, 2019, 06:16:36 AM

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It's a sin if his religion is Islam, but he won't be jailed for that one, honestly, I believe it's hard to discuss religion here because this is some kind of debate that will have no definite answer, unlike when we are debating a law of the state where there's a complete basis.

^ The reason is every one of here was have a different religion and I respect everyone belief when it comes religious topics. So, if gambling is strictly prohibited in your place then respect the law that implemented. Obey it or you probably put in jail once you have been caught. You can promote gambling in social media using the unknown name if you really wanted to promote. Nevertheless, I am very lucky that I am a Christian and we are not strict on promoting gambling.

Gambling is illegal in China but their citizen are still finding a way to gamble, so I think people aren't afraid to break the rules and regulation as long as they will not be caught. Your enemy when you violate the law in your religion is yourself or your conscience and it will hunt you forever if you have high belief in your religion and you keep violating the law. If I have to choose, I will choose to violate the law of the land than the law of God because the law of the land is just created by people which is created by God.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on September 09, 2019, 05:13:30 AM

As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

The decision of the religion is final, you can't offer it and ask to change the decision. Which is mean if your regilion has prohibited to gambling then all the part of it will be harmful as well. Either you playing it or even you just promoted the gambling site and the answer will be prohibited.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on September 09, 2019, 05:13:30 AM

As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

I'm a Christian and I'm promoting gambling sites to all my peers, as an entertainment venue, because I do entertain while playing various games in gambling sites and I'm not a very religious person as long as I'm not harming any creature or using lying and deceiving just to entice people to join I don't believe I am making a sin.

For clarification purpose, what you earned from gambling or from be promoting gambling platforms are from those peers of yours who lost to the system, many of those who put their families and love ones into starvation and you call it not a sin?. Your promoting the gambling platforms made them starved their families and loved ones. Although am not too religious and I like gambling, gambling is also part of me but not addicted either.

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Quote from: Kasabus on September 10, 2019, 06:16:36 AM

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It's a sin if his religion is Islam, but he won't be jailed for that one, honestly, I believe it's hard to discuss religion here because this is some kind of debate that will have no definite answer, unlike when we are debating a law of the state where there's a complete basis.

^ The reason is every one of here was have a different religion and I respect everyone belief when it comes religious topics. So, if gambling is strictly prohibited in your place then respect the law that implemented. Obey it or you probably put in jail once you have been caught. You can promote gambling in social media using the unknown name if you really wanted to promote. Nevertheless, I am very lucky that I am a Christian and we are not strict on promoting gambling.

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Quote from: samputin on September 10, 2019, 01:13:29 AM

I am not a Muslim and I do not know much of their religion. But if gambling is prohibited in their religion for it is considered a sin, then anything in relation with gambling may also be considered a sin.

However, on another point of view, if he is only promoting a gambling site for it is his occupation, and he is not really gambling, then I don't think there is anything wrong with that. After all, he is just doing his job as an employee but not disobeying the beliefs of his religion by gambling.

Anyway, I think it would still be up to the person if he will choose not to bend the rules or go against it. Whichever he decides, we must respect his say.

Things like this are still confusing. Whether it's sin or not, if we promote a gambling site but we don't play on it. Some people say that they remain sinful, but for me that is a valid thing. Because we do not play, but only promote the gambling site so that many people play in it for people who like to gamble.

In Islam, gambling is bad so anything related is considered a sin. Also, include promoting a gambling site because they help the owner and attract the attention of other people (no matter his religion) to make sins (play gambling). It doesn't matter if a Muslim doesn't play but if they promote it is still prohibited in his religion.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on September 09, 2019, 05:13:30 AM

As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

Legal refers to the law of the state while sin is on the law of the religion.
We have to specify it properly as in our country, religion are state are separate and the law of the state is applicable to all citizen while the law of the religion is within the religion only.

Quote from: UmerIdrees on September 09, 2019, 05:13:30 AM

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

It's a sin if his religion is Islam, but he won't be jailed for that one, honestly, I believe it's hard to discuss religion here because this is some kind of debate that will have no definite answer, unlike when we are debating a law of the state where there's a complete basis.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on September 09, 2019, 05:13:30 AM

As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

I am not Muslim but I have seen someone who I know refusing to promote sites related with lending and gambling site. Legal and things you don't do just because your religion prohibits are different.

I've seen some friends on mine who are not allowed to as said in religion but still they do. Its all about your views actually and how much you believe in it.

Still I want to know why gambling and lending is considered as sin? I mean reasoning behind it. Hope I am asking it correctly.

Lending is not considered as sin, Lending is considered sin only if you take interest on it as interest you get is just money that you are getting without making any effort and in Islam the money earned without any work and effort is haram.

Gambling is sin also because you are getting money on your money without effort and gambling make a person go mad and they do very bad things when they are gambling even they lose their house and all the things and even in gambling in old days people used to bet their women so that is why it is sin... To keep the community safe and secure.

Ask someone from Islamic forum or google it you will get a much better answer as I lack knowledge here.

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Quote from: samputin on September 10, 2019, 01:13:29 AM

I am not a Muslim and I do not know much of their religion. But if gambling is prohibited in their religion for it is considered a sin, then anything in relation with gambling may also be considered a sin.

However, on another point of view, if he is only promoting a gambling site for it is his occupation, and he is not really gambling, then I don't think there is anything wrong with that. After all, he is just doing his job as an employee but not disobeying the beliefs of his religion by gambling.

Anyway, I think it would still be up to the person if he will choose not to bend the rules or go against it. Whichever he decides, we must respect his say.

Things like this are still confusing. Whether it's sin or not, if we promote a gambling site but we don't play on it. Some people say that they remain sinful, but for me that is a valid thing. Because we do not play, but only promote the gambling site so that many people play in it for people who like to gamble.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on September 09, 2019, 05:13:30 AM

As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

I can be wrong, but I think that gambling is prohibited by many religions because this activity can potentially:

1. Make you greedy;

2. Harm you financially.

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Surely, there can be other interpretations of the holy books, but I don't give a damn about what religious fanatics say. In other words, that's just my opinion, I'm no preacher myself.

You are a preacher base on these analysis of yours. Most of us here are somehow religious but still went ahead to promote gambling sites to earn for a living, these earned money are from those who lost to the system, most of them closed up savings and some get into debts of different kinds but we are still here doing promotion because we are not religious.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on September 09, 2019, 05:13:30 AM

As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

I can be wrong, but I think that gambling is prohibited by many religions because this activity can potentially:

1. Make you greedy;

2. Harm you financially.

Greed is a sin because once you are possessed by it, you can't think of anything but your profit, while it is supposed that you should think about God in the first place.

When something harms you financially, you can end up losing your health or even your very life, and suicide is considered a sin in the Bible and the Quran, and, I'm sure, in other religious books too.

If you are earning your daily bread by promoting a gambling site, this activity can not be considered a sin because you need to eat to survive, and you have to somehow earn money for that. Similarly, it's not a sin to work in a supermarket where they sell pork or to work in a gun shop, although eating pork and killing is a sin.

Surely, there can be other interpretations of the holy books, but I don't give a damn about what religious fanatics say. In other words, that's just my opinion, I'm no preacher myself.

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One of the dumbest questions to ask, to be honest. I'm not a religious person myself and I respect the beliefs of anyone, so they can practice and do whatever they want if it makes them feel good about themselves and it doesn't disturb me.

You know for some religions, like the one OP I know is for sure talking about, any form of risk and gambling is wrong. Which could even make crypto wrong if you're buying it for pure speculation. This also makes fiat buying for speculation wrong btw.

Remember, it is the intent, not the action.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on September 09, 2019, 05:13:30 AM

As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

If you care too much about the money you earn, whether it's halal or haram, it would be better not to promote gambling sites. I personally do not really care about the money I get as long as I don't steal, cheat, rob or commit other crimes.

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I think the point we don't agree is different. I live in a Muslim country, and I think it's not about Islam because it's forbidden here. As you know, many Islamic countries are economically underdeveloped or developing economies. If gambling is released in these countries, it will be very difficult to follow the movement of money. This is one of the most important reasons why gambling is forbidden in my country.

However, in some countries ruled under strict Islamic conditions, prohibitions are made only because it is a sin. I mean, it has nothing to do with religion. It's more about what governments do.

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I am not a Muslim but I have worked in some Muslim countries in Balkan like Bosnia.It is the same based on what I know from there,the money is still considered illegal because you get it from people who you are becoming a reason they join a gambling site or casino.

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I am not a Muslim and I do not know much of their religion. But if gambling is prohibited in their religion for it is considered a sin, then anything in relation with gambling may also be considered a sin.

However, on another point of view, if he is only promoting a gambling site for it is his occupation, and he is not really gambling, then I don't think there is anything wrong with that. After all, he is just doing his job as an employee but not disobeying the beliefs of his religion by gambling.

Anyway, I think it would still be up to the person if he will choose not to bend the rules or go against it. Whichever he decides, we must respect his say.

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You need to ask your heart first before you want to promote any material even for gambling, drugs, or else. If your heart is okay if you do that, then you can continue, but if it's not, then, you need to stop for a while. Religion is something privately, that is between you and GOD, and no one will know how close you and GOD.

If someone says that is illegal and that is a SIN, then he might wrong because he will not know if GOD will permit his way to do that thing because he does that thing is not for himself. All of the judgment will from GOD itself, and we don't know which is wrong or right. The matter is if you want to do something, out of the illegal or legal thing, you should ask your heart, and you will see the difference.

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you mean if the promoter is from restricted religion ? it should be fine because you were only promoting it and you are not playing an actual gambling but if your still doubting or feeling nervous then much better if you dont continue promoting so that you are sure that you wont hurt your religion . for us christians , i think gambling is also restricted but not totally as what islam do . christians still do silly things but at the end of the day , we are still praying asking for forgiveness of our sins .

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on September 09, 2019, 05:13:30 AM

As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

I'm a Christian and I'm promoting gambling sites to all my peers, as an entertainment venue, because I do entertain while playing various games in gambling sites and I'm not a very religious person as long as I'm not harming any creature or using lying and deceiving just to entice people to join I don't believe I am making a sin.

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Quote from: target on September 09, 2019, 09:40:01 PM

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Quote from: joshy23 on September 09, 2019, 11:50:35 AM

Quote from: XCANA on September 09, 2019, 09:04:13 AM

From my religion view, that money is illegal and shouldn't be use in the religion way. As a Christian I am, I have not taken from what I earned from gambling to pay my offerings nor for tithes because doing those before God Almighty who sees the heart will not yield positively results. Tithing and offering will be waste of time from what you earn from gambling, Better still keep it to your self.

Same thing since the money itself came from the gambling site so even you are not physically gambling your money but the sources of your income still coming from the gambling site itself, in religious mind it's still consider as part of the system, it will be tagged as part of gambling related activities it's been labeled to it.

That would be a horrible situation for a Muslim, its like having the opportunity to earn yet not allowed. It may just be a question for the morality but I wonder if the situation may chance if its a matter of life and death situation. Everything you do today needs money, you wouldn't question whether its legal or morally right if you have to put food on the table. Didn't all religion disallow gambling?

Christianity to be precise disallowed gambling and also, my country disallowed it too, so, getting involve into the system just to survive or to put food on the table is illegal. There are some individuals here who will not promote anything against their religion or belief, those types will not defile self to put food on their table.

They'd sure earn the respect of the fellow Christians and Muslims for not bending the forbidden laws of their religion. Gambling I think though is just a simple disobedience against religion unlike murders so I hope Gods will forgive this low level sin. And I mean lottery is being played in most country regardless of religion. Isn't lottery also a gambling act?

There is nothing to relate gambling with religion. There are people who do gamble and support charities and people in need. There are sayings in the Bible as well on other religious books that gambling is sin. This is mentioned when one is completely lazy and vanishes his properties for gambling. These days such kind of gamblers were very low to be seen in reality. From my view, at least by following the religious beliefs it is good to keep ourselves within the limits.

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Quote from: XCANA on September 09, 2019, 01:32:51 PM

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Quote from: joshy23 on September 09, 2019, 11:50:35 AM

Quote from: XCANA on September 09, 2019, 09:04:13 AM

From my religion view, that money is illegal and shouldn't be use in the religion way. As a Christian I am, I have not taken from what I earned from gambling to pay my offerings nor for tithes because doing those before God Almighty who sees the heart will not yield positively results. Tithing and offering will be waste of time from what you earn from gambling, Better still keep it to your self.

Same thing since the money itself came from the gambling site so even you are not physically gambling your money but the sources of your income still coming from the gambling site itself, in religious mind it's still consider as part of the system, it will be tagged as part of gambling related activities it's been labeled to it.

That would be a horrible situation for a Muslim, its like having the opportunity to earn yet not allowed. It may just be a question for the morality but I wonder if the situation may chance if its a matter of life and death situation. Everything you do today needs money, you wouldn't question whether its legal or morally right if you have to put food on the table. Didn't all religion disallow gambling?

Christianity to be precise disallowed gambling and also, my country disallowed it too, so, getting involve into the system just to survive or to put food on the table is illegal. There are some individuals here who will not promote anything against their religion or belief, those types will not defile self to put food on their table.

They'd sure earn the respect of the fellow Christians and Muslims for not bending the forbidden laws of their religion. Gambling I think though is just a simple disobedience against religion unlike murders so I hope Gods will forgive this low level sin. And I mean lottery is being played in most country regardless of religion. Isn't lottery also a gambling act?

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