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Quote from: UmerIdrees on September 09, 2019, 05:13:30 AM

As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

Correct me if i am wrong. But i think it still a sin although we not play gambling but we promote gambling place. But for me, actually i know it is a sin but i play gamble too. Maybe in future i hope can change to be better person and avoid all of gambling things. If not a sin, maybe we are not prohobited to any kind of that game.

This issue is very sensitive especially to those countries who have a very deep religious practice, of course, you have your needs and you want to make an income and promoting gambling sites is a good source of revenue, but you also have an obligation to your religion, but like what I post in my opinion, I'm ok with it as long as I do not deceive people that gambling is a get rich scheme I'm ok with my stand.

I always encourage when I'm promoting be it a gambling site or investment site, just to spend and spare what they can afford to lose and just have some fun.

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Quote from: Avirunes on September 09, 2019, 10:39:09 AM

Quote from: UmerIdrees on September 09, 2019, 05:13:30 AM

As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

I am not Muslim but I have seen someone who I know refusing to promote sites related with lending and gambling site. Legal and things you don't do just because your religion prohibits are different.

I've seen some friends on mine who are not allowed to as said in religion but still they do. Its all about your views actually and how much you believe in it.

Still I want to know why gambling and lending is considered as sin? I mean reasoning behind it. Hope I am asking it correctly.

Totally agree, if you know Muhammed Zakir on this forum then you know how he avoids gambling including playing or promoting it. He is a Muslim from India, I know that he is very religious, even he offers loans with zero interest. This goes back to the Muslims view of gambling and lending (with interest) ready to accept sin if you deal with it.

AFAIK gambling in Islam is haram and it is forbidden by religion. Also, Muslims can give loans to others as long as they do not ask for interest and collateral.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on September 09, 2019, 05:13:30 AM

As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

I think, first of all, we should all be clear that the act of gambling for Islam is the Sin, not the money. Earning money from a prohibited act on that religion is considered illegal, not a Sin directly. I think that's good to be pointed out first.

Quote from: UmerIdrees on September 09, 2019, 05:13:30 AM

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

Coming back to the point where earning money is going to be the issue, the source would be questioned. From what I understand from some of my friends who are Islam, let me show you this:

They said that if they eat pork, they would be committing sin. If you were to eat something other than pork and the knife that was used was used to cut pork, it is still going to be a sin.

Using that analogy to gambling, if it came from Gambling, knowing that it is forbidden for them, and you didn't gamble but the source of money is from a forbidden act (still gambling) it could still be considered a sin. I'm not an Islam and don't know the correct one, correct me if I'm wrong.

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LOL, I hate statements like this. Is doing this sinful? Promoting gambling projects but we don't play, come on. Why should think like this, everyone has his thoughts on sin, it is more precisely personal.

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My religion is not Islam, but the way I understand your statement, seems like anything that is coming from gambling is against the religion of Islam.
Whether it's coming from bounty, signature campaign, or whatever kind of promotions, if a person is a true believer of Islam, he should not participate in any.

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Quote from: Avirunes on September 09, 2019, 10:39:09 AM

Still I want to know why gambling and lending is considered as sin? I mean reasoning behind it. Hope I am asking it correctly.

In Islam, it's written on their Book (Quran). Everything written here should be followed by all Muslims just like in other religions, there is no need for a further explanation nor valid and technical reasoning on that especially for us, not Muslim. In other words, we must not question it and just respect their beliefs.

Quote from: UmerIdrees on September 09, 2019, 05:13:30 AM

As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

Since the money has involvement in gambling, yes it's prohibited to Islam. But in some cases, as mentioned also above, there is no religion that has perfect followers so there is a case that someone is involved to that even that is prohibited on their religion.

No need for this thread to have much further discussion. OP you now have the idea on your question. Religion should not be involved in any discussion here because of the obvious reason that people here aren't living on the same tree.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on September 09, 2019, 05:13:30 AM

As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

You mean a Muslim promoting a gambling site?

In the first place, they will not do that. Since it involves Gambling, no way they will promote it. Islam is so strict that you will not think of doing what's not written in their Koran. But like in other religions, there are persons who like to work against what written in the book but it doesn't mean they aren't following it. Maybe in needs of money etc. like the usual scene in our community.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on September 09, 2019, 05:13:30 AM

As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

It looks like it's against their belief as well, the money coming from gambling whether you win it or earn it, it's still coming from gambling.
However, I don't like to judge because it's up to everyone on how to they will see themselves doing that kind of things.

When it comes to religion or salvation, it's an individual effort because we are in charge of our own as we face the consequences of our own.

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Quote from: Avirunes on September 09, 2019, 10:39:09 AM

Quote from: UmerIdrees on September 09, 2019, 05:13:30 AM

As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

I am not Muslim but I have seen someone who I know refusing to promote sites related with lending and gambling site. Legal and things you don't do just because your religion prohibits are different.

I've seen some friends on mine who are not allowed to as said in religion but still they do. Its all about your views actually and how much you believe in it.

Still I want to know why gambling and lending is considered as sin? I mean reasoning behind it. Hope I am asking it correctly.

Same question on my mind why gambling and lending is prohibited but i did some small search https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maisir
Its way too exagerrated to have this kind of religion imho but well, everyone needs respect with their own beliefs and culture
but its quite odd to see it up though.

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If your religion does condemn gambling it should relate to everything gambling, but is gambling truly a sin? We can ask this question and at the same time ask for logical answers gambling is you win or you don't win, someone gains from another loss so is some investment choices but they are not considered crime. Investing is about predicting the opportunity of what is invested on in future so is gambling you playing to gain in future

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on September 09, 2019, 05:13:30 AM

As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

in this diverse world, I think we have to look at it from a different angle.. promoting it is indirectly like provoking, but I don't think that's a Sin, I see the promotion a gambling site on social media is a job.

You only Sin if you cheat.. promote fake gambling sites and then run off with the money.

The implications of this is that, what you hate to do personally or what you won't do, you are now asking friends to do it just because you will earn from them doing it. In conclusion, its a sin to give someone food to eat which you won't eat, according to the Christian doctrines even in slam I assume.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on September 09, 2019, 05:13:30 AM

As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

in this diverse world, I think we have to look at it from a different angle.. promoting it is indirectly like provoking, but I don't think that's a Sin, I see the promotion a gambling site on social media is a job.

You only Sin if you cheat.. promote fake gambling sites and then run off with the money.

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Quote from: target on September 09, 2019, 12:13:33 PM

Quote from: joshy23 on September 09, 2019, 11:50:35 AM

Quote from: XCANA on September 09, 2019, 09:04:13 AM

From my religion view, that money is illegal and shouldn't be use in the religion way. As a Christian I am, I have not taken from what I earned from gambling to pay my offerings nor for tithes because doing those before God Almighty who sees the heart will not yield positively results. Tithing and offering will be waste of time from what you earn from gambling, Better still keep it to your self.

Same thing since the money itself came from the gambling site so even you are not physically gambling your money but the sources of your income still coming from the gambling site itself, in religious mind it's still consider as part of the system, it will be tagged as part of gambling related activities it's been labeled to it.

That would be a horrible situation for a Muslim, its like having the opportunity to earn yet not allowed. It may just be a question for the morality but I wonder if the situation may chance if its a matter of life and death situation. Everything you do today needs money, you wouldn't question whether its legal or morally right if you have to put food on the table. Didn't all religion disallow gambling?

Christianity to be precise disallowed gambling and also, my country disallowed it too, so, getting involve into the system just to survive or to put food on the table is illegal. There are some individuals here who will not promote anything against their religion or belief, those types will not defile self to put food on their table.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on September 09, 2019, 05:13:30 AM

As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

Correct me if i am wrong. But i think it still a sin although we not play gambling but we promote gambling place. But for me, actually i know it is a sin but i play gamble too. Maybe in future i hope can change to be better person and avoid all of gambling things. If not a sin, maybe we are not prohobited to any kind of that game.

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Quote from: joshy23 on September 09, 2019, 11:50:35 AM

Quote from: XCANA on September 09, 2019, 09:04:13 AM

From my religion view, that money is illegal and shouldn't be use in the religion way. As a Christian I am, I have not taken from what I earned from gambling to pay my offerings nor for tithes because doing those before God Almighty who sees the heart will not yield positively results. Tithing and offering will be waste of time from what you earn from gambling, Better still keep it to your self.

Same thing since the money itself came from the gambling site so even you are not physically gambling your money but the sources of your income still coming from the gambling site itself, in religious mind it's still consider as part of the system, it will be tagged as part of gambling related activities it's been labeled to it.

That would be a horrible situation for a Muslim, its like having the opportunity to earn yet not allowed. It may just be a question for the morality but I wonder if the situation may chance if its a matter of life and death situation. Everything you do today needs money, you wouldn't question whether its legal or morally right if you have to put food on the table. Didn't all religion disallow gambling?

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on September 09, 2019, 05:13:30 AM

As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

Don't care too much between those questions being asked.It doesn't matter if you do play nor earn from gambling yet each individual do have its own decisions in life if they would try to follow strictly on what their religion does said.If they don't like to commit sin then they should avoid it as part of their own belief but I do see some muslims that do even gamble on my place without minding about that sin thing been telling off.Talking back about earning money from gambling advertisement,i don't see of it to be a big deal after all.Hence, only a few of the entire population as Muslims.

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Quote from: XCANA on September 09, 2019, 09:04:13 AM

From my religion view, that money is illegal and shouldn't be use in the religion way. As a Christian I am, I have not taken from what I earned from gambling to pay my offerings nor for tithes because doing those before God Almighty who sees the heart will not yield positively results. Tithing and offering will be waste of time from what you earn from gambling, Better still keep it to your self.

Same thing since the money itself came from the gambling site so even you are not physically gambling your money but the sources of your income still coming from the gambling site itself, in religious mind it's still consider as part of the system, it will be tagged as part of gambling related activities it's been labeled to it.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on September 09, 2019, 05:13:30 AM

As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

Let's put it in a situation like this... In my country, drugs are illegal. But in your case, you only sell drugs but don't actually use it. Still the same. It's still illegal.

I'm not a muslim and I don't know much about it but what I have said is only based on what I can see and my perception. For me, if it's a sin, although you don't directly did that sin but as long as you engaged yourself with it. It's still a sin. You know it's prohibited in your religion but you would still promote it?? It's like going against on what you believe.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on September 09, 2019, 05:13:30 AM

As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

I'm not a very religious person but I do not attach my gambling habit to my religion, as long I'm not doing any hard to my fellow-creature, I'm ok with gambling and promoting it, just don't promote scam gambling site, or you are stealing from the poor guy, and promote it like a site to have some fun not to get rich.

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on September 09, 2019, 05:13:30 AM

As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

I am not Muslim but I have seen someone who I know refusing to promote sites related with lending and gambling site. Legal and things you don't do just because your religion prohibits are different.

I've seen some friends on mine who are not allowed to as said in religion but still they do. Its all about your views actually and how much you believe in it.

Still I want to know why gambling and lending is considered as sin? I mean reasoning behind it. Hope I am asking it correctly.

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