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October 06, 2019, 12:34:09 AM
I don't think that way. If I made money, no one should look at where do I spend it or on what I use it for. Why would it even be such a bad thing? It isn't that much of a big deal, you give money and then maybe you win more or lose it all. A big percentage of money given for building churches and other religious establishments comes from mafia or some types of criminals, so gambling isn't that bad.
no one requires you to tell where you get your money and where the money is used for, it's a privacy right. Winning, losing, or at least the results you get from gambling are also none of the business of others. You must know that not everyone has the same perspective, some say gambling is bad and categorized as "dirty money" and some say the opposite. how do you show valid data that the mafia provides funds with a large percentage in terms of religious institutions? your opinion is too bad.
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October 05, 2019, 03:31:38 PM
I don't think that way. If I made money, no one should look at where do I spend it or on what I use it for.
It’s not about where to spend but how you earn the money and from what?
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Why would it even be such a bad thing? It isn't that much of a big deal, you give money and then maybe you win more or lose it all.
It will be a bad thing if you get the money from illegal gambling or from illegal capital
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A big percentage of money given for building churches and other religious establishments comes from mafia or some types of criminals, so gambling isn't that bad.
This is another story though I This is really happening,Churches accept donation from Gaming corporation but they are opposing Gambling.”Weird “
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October 05, 2019, 03:06:40 PM
I don't think that way. If I made money, no one should look at where do I spend it or on what I use it for. Why would it even be such a bad thing? It isn't that much of a big deal, you give money and then maybe you win more or lose it all. A big percentage of money given for building churches and other religious establishments comes from mafia or some types of criminals, so gambling isn't that bad.
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October 05, 2019, 02:02:38 AM
Why are we always debating this topic. In general, everyone has the right to their opinions on the money they get from gambling or promoting gambling sites. If it's personally wrong and it's dirty money, then leave it and stay away from gambling and find a better way. So here, every opinion is kept and we are good and have the right to do it, then do it.
everyone is free to argue and this topic is a form of freedom, not to argue but only to discuss and it is good to share each person's perspective on a topic of conversation. if you don't like this topic either, that's fine.
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October 04, 2019, 08:13:22 PM
It is difficult to control yourself so that you are not trapped to use all the money available to gamble, but I think people who are used to gambling will find it easy to exercise self-control.

It's not so easy to gamble especially if you cannot control yourself. The chance to lose money will bigger than he can imagine.

Some gamblers seek only for entertainment alone itself, they have plenty of money which losing is not even bothering them, they are just passing the time by. They are too bored having too much money on their pocket, they don't know where to spend it anymore. They don't want to donate it on charities because they are all selfish people who just wants money to keep coming on their hands.

Yes, some gamblers doing that, but not all gamblers. I know that some gamblers were generous to share some of the win money to other people, especially for people who really need money. But of course, those gamblers don't tell that people from where the money. That gambler doesn't want that person to reject the money because the money is from gambling. I think that is fine because it depends on the intention of each person.

Maybe that is why some people don't want to accept the money if they know that it is from gambling, and we cannot do anything because that will be up to them. It's better to give that money to people who really need that money.
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October 04, 2019, 02:47:36 PM
Why are we always debating this topic. In general, everyone has the right to their opinions on the money they get from gambling or promoting gambling sites. If it's personally wrong and it's dirty money, then leave it and stay away from gambling and find a better way. So here, every opinion is kept and we are good and have the right to do it, then do it.
Well, yes that is your own opinion and I will not debate you on that matter. The fact gives me some reason why did you say that gambling is dirty money and that is wrong. Are you committing crimes on gambling? Is gambling prohibited in your place or even in your religion? Then, if yes. No doubt that is dirty money but if none of the above. I did not see that a profit from gambling is dirty money. The fact that all of these are superstitious beliefs.
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October 04, 2019, 02:36:32 PM
Why are we always debating this topic. In general, everyone has the right to their opinions on the money they get from gambling or promoting gambling sites. If it's personally wrong and it's dirty money, then leave it and stay away from gambling and find a better way. So here, every opinion is kept and we are good and have the right to do it, then do it.
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October 04, 2019, 01:09:39 PM
Like I said before. All the money in this world can be considered dirty in one way or another, because it is redistributed from one person to another and not always fairly.


There is no perfect system of fairness in the world, not democracy, not capitalism not even sports.   Sometimes people will suffer bad luck but the opportunity to take part is the gift everyone should be grateful for in life.    I see nothing wrong with plain gambling as a game where you can win and often will not, anyone reasonable should accept that possibility for pretty much every task in life every day.
   When people think they will take a game and win big because they bet big and the world owes them then they are going to corrected in a likely unpleasant way.    Thats just life as an adult, its better to understand then believe its the fault of the game or whatever task you took on.    

Money is circulated constantly in an economy and thats a positive because for every loser in a trade, there is a winner and even the profits come round to favor those who do the best business.  Gambling could be looked down on as not favoring good practice, risk for the sake of risk but its nothing more negative then drinking or smoking or wasting time on many different games which dont really promote any great advantage like science or normal industry might produce.

I also believe that people are free to do as they please, everyone has the right to decide whether to play in the casino or not. However, sometimes it is necessary to limit the location of casinos to special gambling zones, as in the United States. This helps to protect the population from the painful excitement, because not all people understand that the casino is entertainment, and not a way to constantly earn money.

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October 04, 2019, 12:10:34 PM
I am not much of a religious man so I can't speak of what the view is from religious point of view but legally I think it is called dirty because it is near impossible to keep a track of gains and losses so it is a common misassumption that all gamblers have dirty money, as in money which they gained in some ways where they didn't have to pay any tax.

And that's why I hate taxes folks. Then again, there are plenty of countries that do not tax gambling winnings, so at least in these countries, it is not seen as dirty money.
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October 04, 2019, 11:05:08 AM
I think you cannot consider gambling money as a dirty money because it is not like other illegal activities such as money laundering. As long you are playing gambling for entertainment and for your leisure time you cannot say that gambling money is a dirty money because you are earning it by playing and not stealing it which it is not illegal just like money laundering.
It is true you gamble for entertainment purposes and if doing against the law by obtaining crimes or doing illegal then gambling money is a dirty money. We must treat gambling as a past time and enjoy it because we are the one responsible for our own doing.
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October 04, 2019, 11:03:00 AM
The only reason why people seem to perceive that gambling money is dirty money is because they think that it's money that's easily won and money easily won is regarded as dirty but that's not true at all when it comes to gambling, most gamblers tend to win once in a while after spending a lot of their money in the process .

That is because gambling is not like the other jobs that they did every day. They think that gambling will risk their money, and they only hope with the luck which they know that luck will not always come to them. They know that, but they decide to continue and pretending that the luck will come in the next round. Although they already spend so much money, they still difficult to win some money because luck does not come at all.

Gambling was a form of recreational activity that involves money actually, but if you're pertaining to a dirty side of money then it's true. Money is the dirty one and not gambling itself, it circulated worldwide and used of any types of person whether he's bad or good person. If those gamblers were using dirty money as instrument for betting on gambling, credits was not of gambling but for those people who did it unacceptably.
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October 04, 2019, 10:41:07 AM
Like I said before. All the money in this world can be considered dirty in one way or another, because it is redistributed from one person to another and not always fairly.

only if the money or crypto has already been circulated on the market but what if you will get them from thier root sources . for money or physical fiat ,thier root source are from the banks because they are the ones that print it  . on cryptos thier root source are from mining  .  you can make sure that you are the first holder of those funds so they are not considered dirty at all but using these funds to gamble is still not considered dirty as long as the gambling game or gambling site is 102% legal  .
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October 04, 2019, 10:31:27 AM
Like I said before. All the money in this world can be considered dirty in one way or another, because it is redistributed from one person to another and not always fairly.


There is no perfect system of fairness in the world, not democracy, not capitalism not even sports.   Sometimes people will suffer bad luck but the opportunity to take part is the gift everyone should be grateful for in life.    I see nothing wrong with plain gambling as a game where you can win and often will not, anyone reasonable should accept that possibility for pretty much every task in life every day.
   When people think they will take a game and win big because they bet big and the world owes them then they are going to corrected in a likely unpleasant way.    Thats just life as an adult, its better to understand then believe its the fault of the game or whatever task you took on.    

Money is circulated constantly in an economy and thats a positive because for every loser in a trade, there is a winner and even the profits come round to favor those who do the best business.  Gambling could be looked down on as not favoring good practice, risk for the sake of risk but its nothing more negative then drinking or smoking or wasting time on many different games which dont really promote any great advantage like science or normal industry might produce.
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October 04, 2019, 10:07:37 AM
I think you cannot consider gambling money as a dirty money because it is not like other illegal activities such as money laundering. As long you are playing gambling for entertainment and for your leisure time you cannot say that gambling money is a dirty money because you are earning it by playing and not stealing it which it is not illegal just like money laundering.
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October 04, 2019, 10:04:56 AM
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/



It will all depends on the culture of the people. For example, in some rural areas here in our country, gambling is as a common as your day job and no one will raise an eyebrow if you feed your family with those money. But in urban areas, casinos have a bad reputation and we even have a law where no public official shall partake in any games of any gambling institutions. And for me, money is still money. I don't care if people think that my money is "dirty" just because I won it from gambling. It is not their place to judge where I get what I spend just to live.
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October 04, 2019, 07:50:20 AM
People think so primarily because in order for one person to win at roulette, another person has to lose their money. Also, a lot of people suffering from ludomania, and lose the last money in the casino and the administration can not prevent them.
Also, casinos used to be controlled by criminal gangs who laundered their criminal money there. Probably the concept of "dirty money" went from that time.
When we talk about the dirty money, here we discussed about the laundered money out of criminal activities. When we take into calculation on this, it'll be very less compared to the corruption money which is truly the dirty money. Because it is people's money getting accumulated with a single person. So, if we think about dirty money and play, it is quite hard to spend on gambling, because every money in one way or other has little dirt.

Like I said before. All the money in this world can be considered dirty in one way or another, because it is redistributed from one person to another and not always fairly.



The essences of gambling itself perhaps the dirty because how we treated the gaming is why made this bad,for me gambling supposedly for fun but most of players make this a vices ,place where they can be supreme and unbeatable while the truth is the House is benefiting from this attitude
Gambling money become dirty if we intend this to be,but if we don’t!i believe money from gambling will not be treated dirty as it was
But just enjoy playing and never do bad things in return

For me, gambling itself has never been dirty. And you know why? Because I always knew that in a casino the chances of my winning are less than the chances of the casino taking my money, and this information is not hidden from anyone and everyone can make a choice to play or not.



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Nice word by the way: "ludomania".

This word means a person's disease and expresses a psychological addiction to gambling.
This can be compared to alcoholism, which expresses dependence on alcohol consumption.
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October 04, 2019, 03:21:48 AM
It's funny that many people think that gambling money is dirty but everyone is happy to receive money without asking where it came from. Lottery prizes are basically gambling money that everyone is happy to accept. Selecting a set of numbers and buying a ticket in the hope of winning, is the equivalent of wagering on the Roulette wheel.

People think so primarily because in order for one person to win at roulette, another person has to lose their money. Also, a lot of people suffering from ludomania, and lose the last money in the casino and the administration can not prevent them.
Also, casinos used to be controlled by criminal gangs who laundered their criminal money there. Probably the concept of "dirty money" went from that time.

Not all casino though,otherwise they wouldn't be allowed in many countries. I guess it was a stereotypical labeling by people with little/no facts.

As regards administrators not able to help them, I guess admins are not able to help the addicts due to fear of losing the costumers. Both need help in this case lol.
Nice word by the way: "ludomania".
 



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October 04, 2019, 02:17:59 AM
The only reason why people seem to perceive that gambling money is dirty money is because they think that it's money that's easily won and money easily won is regarded as dirty but that's not true at all when it comes to gambling, most gamblers tend to win once in a while after spending a lot of their money in the process .

That is because gambling is not like the other jobs that they did every day. They think that gambling will risk their money, and they only hope with the luck which they know that luck will not always come to them. They know that, but they decide to continue and pretending that the luck will come in the next round. Although they already spend so much money, they still difficult to win some money because luck does not come at all.
it is very often the case and done by many people. dissatisfaction, hoping for luck, not understanding the risk of making gambling no gain at all and only detrimental to the individual who forces it.
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October 04, 2019, 12:19:15 AM
The only reason why people seem to perceive that gambling money is dirty money is because they think that it's money that's easily won and money easily won is regarded as dirty but that's not true at all when it comes to gambling, most gamblers tend to win once in a while after spending a lot of their money in the process .

That is because gambling is not like the other jobs that they did every day. They think that gambling will risk their money, and they only hope with the luck which they know that luck will not always come to them. They know that, but they decide to continue and pretending that the luck will come in the next round. Although they already spend so much money, they still difficult to win some money because luck does not come at all.
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October 03, 2019, 11:45:29 PM
It's funny that many people think that gambling money is dirty but everyone is happy to receive money without asking where it came from. Lottery prizes are basically gambling money that everyone is happy to accept. Selecting a set of numbers and buying a ticket in the hope of winning, is the equivalent of wagering on the Roulette wheel.

People think so primarily because in order for one person to win at roulette, another person has to lose their money. Also, a lot of people suffering from ludomania, and lose the last money in the casino and the administration can not prevent them.
Also, casinos used to be controlled by criminal gangs who laundered their criminal money there. Probably the concept of "dirty money" went from that time.
The essences of gambling itself perhaps the dirty because how we treated the gaming is why made this bad,for me gambling supposedly for fun but most of players make this a vices ,place where they can be supreme and unbeatable while the truth is the House is benefiting from this attitude
Gambling money become dirty if we intend this to be,but if we don’t!i believe money from gambling will not be treated dirty as it was
But just enjoy playing and never do bad things in return
The only reason why people seem to perceive that gambling money is dirty money is because they think that it's money that's easily won and money easily won is regarded as dirty but that's not true at all when it comes to gambling, most gamblers tend to win once in a while after spending a lot of their money in the process .
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