for religious people if linking gambling with religion certainly considers gambling to be prohibited and gambling money is dirty.
but in general gambling in the community has become a habit and culture, so they have not thought about the religion prohibition
because gambling is a common thing, like their parents did.
Topic: Gambling Money is Dirty Money - page 8. (Read 5177 times)
This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.
My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]
I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.
And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]
What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?
Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/
My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]
I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.
And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]
What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?
Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/
Because gambling isn't just a game anymore; it's a dynamic industry and most of the time, it has negative-sum effect on its people. "Dirty" by means of the money you can get from the gambling is from the loss of many, is subjective and cultural view of the matter. These difference in views and cultural perspective divides the role of gambling as entertainment and as way of living. Though there are also people nowadays who consider gambling as both for entertainment and income generating activity. But in the end, money is still money.
Gambling is a worldwide industry, lots of people enjoy gambling. I disagree, I don’t see it as any kind of taboo or terrible thing. People lose money gambling, sure. People win lots too, I don’t feel sorry for people who become addicted to gambling, these kind of people are weak. You are the master of your own life.
Yeah you're right but admit the fact that there are some countries who prohibit this kind of activity, for them it was a crime and if it is a crim then it is dirty money. However, in my case the money came from gambling is not dirty but rather its opposite. Some countries see gambling as beneficial in the way of it could affect upon their economic status. In conclusion, the perspective on gambling varies depends on the place where we belong so we cannot fully tell if the money came from it is dirty or not. So basically, you are saying that poker tournaments where you can win a huge amount of money is dirty money? well if I am the one who's gonna win, I dont mind having a dirty money, I gamble my own money to achieve that. We all have different perspectives, I'm a gambler and I dont think that this is right.
You also don't have to mind people who think that way, that's kind of a stupid thinking.
They are judging in general that what you earn in gambling is a dirty money, and its also possible that the way they look at gamblers, they look them as criminal. Well, let them do the judgement, as the saying goes, you can't please everyone and only those who are close minded are usually not gonna make success in life financially as they are afraid of taking risks.
The majority of society makes money by normal jobs, anything like, street vendors, secretary, cashier, etc. and they don't see gambling as a way to earn legal money. The Government is against gambling casinos who doesn't have any legal papers, so earning money by gambling means dirty money to them, but it does make sense because if it is illegal, then it is dirty, it doesn't matter hoe much you are winning because it is dirty money for them
So basically, you are saying that poker tournaments where you can win a huge amount of money is dirty money? well if I am the one who's gonna win, I dont mind having a dirty money, I gamble my own money to achieve that. We all have different perspectives, I'm a gambler and I dont think that this is right.
You also don't have to mind people who think that way, that's kind of a stupid thinking.
They are judging in general that what you earn in gambling is a dirty money, and its also possible that the way they look at gamblers, they look them as criminal. Well, let them do the judgement, as the saying goes, you can't please everyone and only those who are close minded are usually not gonna make success in life financially as they are afraid of taking risks.
It is difficult for us to understand properly and correctly, but in religious gambling is prohibited on the grounds that it will make dirty money.
it's better to find the truth so that you don't misunderstand about gambling and how to play it that can make dirty money, in my opinion as long as it doesn't harm others for me it's okay.
it's better to find the truth so that you don't misunderstand about gambling and how to play it that can make dirty money, in my opinion as long as it doesn't harm others for me it's okay.
What's the problem with gambling?
Gambling, in gambling games according to people's beliefs as entertainment, but by not violating the laws of every country.
which is often played by people for example (Lottery), some people think the Lottery game can be profitable and make money.
So, playing gambling if I describe it, if it's not excessive spending money, it can't be said of something "evil and dirty".
But what about the activities of people who don't play gambling, then spend money on luxury, eating, shopping unnecessary items, can it be said as "evil and dirty".
Dirty crime, can be done by other means not in the game of "gambling". only.
Gambling, in gambling games according to people's beliefs as entertainment, but by not violating the laws of every country.
which is often played by people for example (Lottery), some people think the Lottery game can be profitable and make money.
So, playing gambling if I describe it, if it's not excessive spending money, it can't be said of something "evil and dirty".
But what about the activities of people who don't play gambling, then spend money on luxury, eating, shopping unnecessary items, can it be said as "evil and dirty".
Dirty crime, can be done by other means not in the game of "gambling". only.
It's true that money from gambling is not fair money for society. if you talk about religion then gambling money is totally dirty but as a vast industry around the world, so many people are doing this and making money with various type of gambling. If you talk about the dirty of Gambling money then you have to consider also all short of gambling signature campaign, Bounty campaign and all the related things to the gambling. So it's really a tough task to avoid this gambling money. But nowadays gambling is considering as one of the most profitable industries and a lot of people are playing with this, so that things are prohibited by the religion that thing should be avoided.
There are some regulated casinos too. Criminals always use this casino to change their black money for clean funds. In recently the hack from Bangladesh Bank is an example. Most of the funds from this hack went to casino & they gamble the money and change the hands and get away with clean funds.
There are some regulated casinos too. Criminals always use this casino to change their black money for clean funds. In recently the hack from Bangladesh Bank is an example. Most of the funds from this hack went to casino & they gamble the money and change the hands and get away with clean funds.
But what that dirty money you saying is from gambling can help poor people and save lives you won't accept it also as a donation after all it's just money doesn't matter where it came from, gambling is just a way to double your money or to lose it all. And a lot of people when they win in jackpots of millions of dollars they always donate a part of it to the people who needs it. If you keep following relegions you will never live your life. That's my opinion because my family is a very religious.
If you are a worker and will play against other workers, then your money is clean. if a thief takes the money he steals and goes to play against person X and person X doesn't know that the money from the thief is dirty and person X wins the game and automatically gets the money of the thief, the money that person X win It can't be considered dirty. because person X made the money honestly and didn't know what the thief was doing. Many religious people don't have any morals to criticize gambling, I honestly don't see why we still have to follow certain laws and certain religious things. There are many things that need to change because they no longer make any sense.
That good analogy, money did not call dirty as long as this is come from in illegal way of earning. There are religion group that strictly prohibited gambling but if you are a member here don't encourage your self to gain profit in gambling instead, respect them and accept what is the law. However, AFAIK there are gambling sites that have a charity program that helps those are in need. So, I think there's no reason why the money that comes from gambling is dirty. The only dirty money is come from those who are making illegal transactions and make money.
Gambling money IMHO is only dirty if it was used to launder money from other sources but otherwise, it's money earned like in any other business.
People would spend their money on what they want and I believe they should be allowed unless they are harming others. Removing the outlet from gambling would just push these people towards other vices.
Now that is just ridiculous. So she'd rather not have books and classrooms then?
People would spend their money on what they want and I believe they should be allowed unless they are harming others. Removing the outlet from gambling would just push these people towards other vices.
And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]
Now that is just ridiculous. So she'd rather not have books and classrooms then?
I recognize some in a religious way forbid gambling by their followers and that might extend to a nation where the country is a religious state. I wouldnt argue with those people and their desire to avoid any gambling business, it is their choice and belief to do so.
However overall I dont look down upon any actual gambling myself, the reasoning I will give is from a finance perspective which is just that risk taking, unknown factors and variable judgement is a normal business decision that is a requirement in every economy. The only bad gambling to me is where its deceptive and done as a trick then I'd agree it is unfair practice.
Its possible for any person to lose large amounts in the risks of starting or running a business and by taking the wrong decisions, taking perhaps too much risk but hoping for profit. We cannot avoid these things, the only good practise to always keep is only risk money you can afford to lose. That would match the ban on borrowing money on some countries and that makes more sense to me, as that is good practise for a society generally.
However overall I dont look down upon any actual gambling myself, the reasoning I will give is from a finance perspective which is just that risk taking, unknown factors and variable judgement is a normal business decision that is a requirement in every economy. The only bad gambling to me is where its deceptive and done as a trick then I'd agree it is unfair practice.
Its possible for any person to lose large amounts in the risks of starting or running a business and by taking the wrong decisions, taking perhaps too much risk but hoping for profit. We cannot avoid these things, the only good practise to always keep is only risk money you can afford to lose. That would match the ban on borrowing money on some countries and that makes more sense to me, as that is good practise for a society generally.
If you are a worker and will play against other workers, then your money is clean. if a thief takes the money he steals and goes to play against person X and person X doesn't know that the money from the thief is dirty and person X wins the game and automatically gets the money of the thief, the money that person X win It can't be considered dirty. because person X made the money honestly and didn't know what the thief was doing. Many religious people don't have any morals to criticize gambling, I honestly don't see why we still have to follow certain laws and certain religious things. There are many things that need to change because they no longer make any sense.
That good analogy, money did not call dirty as long as this is come from in illegal way of earning. There are religion group that strictly prohibited gambling but if you are a member here don't encourage your self to gain profit in gambling instead, respect them and accept what is the law. However, AFAIK there are gambling sites that have a charity program that helps those are in need. So, I think there's no reason why the money that comes from gambling is dirty. The only dirty money is come from those who are making illegal transactions and make money.What is done @Renampun actually is not wrong and I do not justify. He only promotes gambling sites but doesn't play, in my opinion that's not wrong either and that could be probably right. In situations like this I am confused, because other people will have different points of view. whether the money we are promoting is dirty money or not.
He/She says gambling money is dirty. Again, he/she is promoting the gambling website itself, meaning that the owner of the site is increasing revenue.
Is this gambling money dirty?
No.
This money is not stolen from anyone.
If you look religiously, then gambling and promoting gambling are the same.
Gambling money is not stolen either. When you tell the other person the rules and that person still decides to play that's no theft!
What if the game was chess and you were playing for a trophy? It's not gambling and everyone would say that chess is ok. But what if 2 chess players put some money at stake? The winner would take it all and they would both know they're playing for money. Would that be theft and dirty money to you? I see nothing wrong in gambling as long as people are aware of the rules.
If you are a worker and will play against other workers, then your money is clean. if a thief takes the money he steals and goes to play against person X and person X doesn't know that the money from the thief is dirty and person X wins the game and automatically gets the money of the thief, the money that person X win It can't be considered dirty. because person X made the money honestly and didn't know what the thief was doing. Many religious people don't have any morals to criticize gambling, I honestly don't see why we still have to follow certain laws and certain religious things. There are many things that need to change because they no longer make any sense.
That good analogy, money did not call dirty as long as this is come from in illegal way of earning. There are religion group that strictly prohibited gambling but if you are a member here don't encourage your self to gain profit in gambling instead, respect them and accept what is the law. However, AFAIK there are gambling sites that have a charity program that helps those are in need. So, I think there's no reason why the money that comes from gambling is dirty. The only dirty money is come from those who are making illegal transactions and make money. 
If you are a worker and will play against other workers, then your money is clean. if a thief takes the money he steals and goes to play against person X and person X doesn't know that the money from the thief is dirty and person X wins the game and automatically gets the money of the thief, the money that person X win It can't be considered dirty. because person X made the money honestly and didn't know what the thief was doing. Many religious people don't have any morals to criticize gambling, I honestly don't see why we still have to follow certain laws and certain religious things. There are many things that need to change because they no longer make any sense.
When you have a clean hand then you no need to worry about where it comes from,only the person who give it to you will go to hell not you. 
This doesn't make any sense and it is hilarious for you to have this kind of mindset, so are you saying that if a drug lord gave you a huge amount of money, and you are innocent, do you think police would believe you that you are not really involve in some illegal activities? come on, don't make me laugh. Money that comes from any illegal activity, whether you are completely invisible to the authority still, it is consider to be a dirty money since gambling is illegal, no matter what you say about it, and technically, if you touch something dirty, then your hands would be dirty too.
And using these dirty money from gambling or any illegal activity would also make you a bad person that would go to hell even though you are not that one who made that money.
What is done @Renampun actually is not wrong and I do not justify. He only promotes gambling sites but doesn't play, in my opinion that's not wrong either and that could be probably right. In situations like this I am confused, because other people will have different points of view. whether the money we are promoting is dirty money or not.
He/She says gambling money is dirty. Again, he/she is promoting the gambling website itself, meaning that the owner of the site is increasing revenue.
Is this gambling money dirty?
No.
This money is not stolen from anyone.
If you look religiously, then gambling and promoting gambling are the same.
IMO, gambling money is dirty money,
I am a religious person and don't play gambling very often,
based on the teachings of my religious teacher, that gambling is the root of all causes of violence,
this is what I think is the cause of money from gambling is dirty.
I am a religious person and don't play gambling very often,
based on the teachings of my religious teacher, that gambling is the root of all causes of violence,
this is what I think is the cause of money from gambling is dirty.
So why are you promoting gambling? Your signature is a gambling site and your payment is coming and that is dirty money too ! I didn't add anything differently, I'm saying from your point of view.
Gambling is happening all over the world. Many people playing as a fun. I do not feel the need to extend sympathy to those who are addicted to gambling.
What is done @Renampun actually is not wrong and I do not justify. He only promotes gambling sites but doesn't play, in my opinion that's not wrong either and that could be probably right. In situations like this I am confused, because other people will have different points of view. whether the money we are promoting is dirty money or not.
IMO, gambling money is dirty money,
I am a religious person and don't play gambling very often,
based on the teachings of my religious teacher, that gambling is the root of all causes of violence,
this is what I think is the cause of money from gambling is dirty.
I am a religious person and don't play gambling very often,
based on the teachings of my religious teacher, that gambling is the root of all causes of violence,
this is what I think is the cause of money from gambling is dirty.
So why are you promoting gambling? Your signature is a gambling site and your payment is coming and that is dirty money too ! I didn't add anything differently, I'm saying from your point of view.
Gambling is happening all over the world. Many people playing as a fun. I do not feel the need to extend sympathy to those who are addicted to gambling.
Claiming himself as a religious person who thinks that gambling is a negative thing but he is trying to earn money by applying in a signature campaign of a gambling site. He should not even apply for any campaigns related to gambling if he claims himself as a religious person who is against dirty money. He should not even play any gambling games, he says that he do not play gambling very often means he do it in some opportunities means that his claim to be religious person is just a BS.
Lol. Talk about getting hit back in the face by a boomerang you threw. That's why you don't include religion in discussions like this. If it's money you've earned honestly, then you have all the right to spend it the way you want to. Especially if you're gambling responsibly. You did't steal, you didn't step on other people, and you know the consequences of your gambling. People shouldn't have a say on it.
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