Gambling Money is Dirty Money - page 9.

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Quote from: lablab03 on September 26, 2019, 09:23:38 AM

It depends on Money that they use for gambling. if the money came from a illegal job etc then that's a dirty money because of addiction on gambling some of people doing illegal just like rubbery or etc for just a small amount of money and they try to gambling it.this kind people are those who have a small source of income, and it's depend on what gambling their have and Status of Life they have.

In my opinion, dirty money can be called only what is obtained by deceiving other people. Many Goverments themselves trade in arms and administer gambling, while prohibiting their citizens from doing the same. That is why I believe that only cheating other people can be an unworthy way to make money. And if the casino does not have special settings to commit fraud, then his money can not be dirty.

Exactly. There may be distinction between dirty money and money earned through immoral means . Gambling still does not qualify as either the two, depending on laws of nations as it regard gambling. Gambling is really legal where I live. The government even run a lottery program which qualify as gambling

In any case, I don't understand the bias against gambling. Casinos don't make people come and play and lose their money. All people know that casinos exist in order to earn money and not to give it to others and it is very naive to think that you will be able to earn every time coming to the casino. Of course I would not let the casino ludomanov who are sick and lose all their money.

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Quote from: Renampun on September 20, 2019, 07:32:07 AM

IMO, gambling money is dirty money,
I am a religious person and don't play gambling very often,
based on the teachings of my religious teacher, that gambling is the root of all causes of violence,
this is what I think is the cause of money from gambling is dirty.

So why are you promoting gambling? Your signature is a gambling site and your payment is coming and that is dirty money too ! I didn't add anything differently, I'm saying from your point of view.

Gambling is happening all over the world. Many people playing as a fun. I do not feel the need to extend sympathy to those who are addicted to gambling.

Claiming himself as a religious person who thinks that gambling is a negative thing but he is trying to earn money by applying in a signature campaign of a gambling site. He should not even apply for any campaigns related to gambling if he claims himself as a religious person who is against dirty money. He should not even play any gambling games, he says that he do not play gambling very often means he do it in some opportunities means that his claim to be religious person is just a BS.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on September 26, 2019, 05:02:24 PM

Churches will accept donations coming from their followers as they give it for good intention and nobody is asking where it comes.

But I think if there's a hot topic and it was known that the money donated to them comes from illegal activities, they won't hesitate to return it and stop accepting donations from those sources.
And this would depend on the management and officials if they will take it seriously and they still have that integrity and conviction to what they do.

That's right. People will not allow donating their money because they are strict with illegal activities. But some people will say that depends on the intention of the heart and as long as they don't tell the source of the money, they think it is okay to donate that money. What I discuss with my friend last night is when we can win from gambling, we can use that money to celebrate, buy some food, enjoy the time together without thinking about donation if we don't want to give the money.

I think that will be as simple as we can think because that will depend on us for what we want to do with the win money. And if you prefer to donate the money, then you better not tell them about the source of the money so they can accept the money without asking too much question.

The generosity of the giver will be considered but the source should also be taken as a serious matter to consider. But you have answered my worry perfectly, if the church authorities will ask where the source will be and the donator will say it's from his own pocket or just simply tells that there's someone who has a good heart that doesn't want to show up to give that donation.
There's no way for them to figure out where that money came.

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Quote from: Renampun on September 20, 2019, 07:32:07 AM

IMO, gambling money is dirty money,
I am a religious person and don't play gambling very often,
based on the teachings of my religious teacher, that gambling is the root of all causes of violence,
this is what I think is the cause of money from gambling is dirty.

So why are you promoting gambling? Your signature is a gambling site and your payment is coming and that is dirty money too ! I didn't add anything differently, I'm saying from your point of view.

Gambling is happening all over the world. Many people playing as a fun. I do not feel the need to extend sympathy to those who are addicted to gambling.

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Quote from: judeafante on September 27, 2019, 01:45:15 AM

Quote from: Darker45 on September 10, 2019, 04:06:16 AM

This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). ^[1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. ^[2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?

So many factors and it depends on your status, and the society where you belong, like if you live in a country where shariah is the governing rules and Islam is the religion, you should respect what your religion preach to their followers, but if you are living in a liberal country and where gambling is very prevalent, then I don't think you will consider gambling is dirty money.

Yeah it depends on where you stand, if you believe in your religious teachings then do it and obey it. nobody forces you to play gambling. dirty money or not depends on everyone's perspective, because we know that everyone has various teachings about the law in life of their religion

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When you have a clean hand then you no need to worry about where it comes from,only the person who give it to you will go to hell not you. Grin

In the meanwhile some people saying gambling is a sin,many gambling companies were born and successfully running as well means people changing from old age to modern world.

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Quote from: Darker45 on September 10, 2019, 04:06:16 AM

This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). ^[1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. ^[2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?

So many factors and it depends on your status, and the society where you belong, like if you live in a country where shariah is the governing rules and Islam is the religion, you should respect what your religion preach to their followers, but if you are living in a liberal country and where gambling is very prevalent, then I don't think you will consider gambling is dirty money.

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Quote from: Juliedarwin on September 23, 2019, 09:37:36 AM

It's all up to you when you hate or do you love and addicted gambling. The people who really Love's and addicted gambling is...they don't mind money where it's came from. But from the people who really hate's gambling for sure they will ask first where the money came from and for sure the first reason that they will put on their mind is the money is from a dirty place where the gamblers are there.

Their are few reasons which differ from people to people . Firstly if it’s a banned in country and still gambling then people consider it as bad money . Secondly if it’s banned in any religion and still doing then they do consider as bad . Then it’s a individual decision if they find it good or bad .

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Quote from: FontSeli on September 26, 2019, 01:41:25 PM

Quote from: lablab03 on September 26, 2019, 09:23:38 AM

It depends on Money that they use for gambling. if the money came from a illegal job etc then that's a dirty money because of addiction on gambling some of people doing illegal just like rubbery or etc for just a small amount of money and they try to gambling it.this kind people are those who have a small source of income, and it's depend on what gambling their have and Status of Life they have.

In my opinion, dirty money can be called only what is obtained by deceiving other people. Many Goverments themselves trade in arms and administer gambling, while prohibiting their citizens from doing the same. That is why I believe that only cheating other people can be an unworthy way to make money. And if the casino does not have special settings to commit fraud, then his money can not be dirty.

Exactly. There may be distinction between dirty money and money earned through immoral means . Gambling still does not qualify as either the two, depending on laws of nations as it regard gambling. Gambling is really legal where I live. The government even run a lottery program which qualify as gambling

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on September 26, 2019, 06:28:56 PM

Quote from: Yamifoud on September 26, 2019, 05:02:24 PM

Churches will accept donations coming from their followers as they give it for good intention and nobody is asking where it comes.

But I think if there's a hot topic and it was known that the money donated to them comes from illegal activities, they won't hesitate to return it and stop accepting donations from those sources.
And this would depend on the management and officials if they will take it seriously and they still have that integrity and conviction to what they do.

That's right. People will not allow donating their money because they are strict with illegal activities. But some people will say that depends on the intention of the heart and as long as they don't tell the source of the money, they think it is okay to donate that money. What I discuss with my friend last night is when we can win from gambling, we can use that money to celebrate, buy some food, enjoy the time together without thinking about donation if we don't want to give the money.

I think that will be as simple as we can think because that will depend on us for what we want to do with the win money. And if you prefer to donate the money, then you better not tell them about the source of the money so they can accept the money without asking too much question.

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I think I would agreed that Gambling money is dirty money, because in most eyes of the people gambling is one of the bad habit,
but for the gamblers it is not, instead gambling was too helpful for them. But real talk most of the gamblers who get rich are most of
the time the rich person also , I think it is very seldom to find out that an ordinary gambler become rich in gambling site whether
online or based land gambling place.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on September 26, 2019, 05:02:24 PM

Churches will accept donations coming from their followers as they give it for good intention and nobody is asking where it comes.

But I think if there's a hot topic and it was known that the money donated to them comes from illegal activities, they won't hesitate to return it and stop accepting donations from those sources.
And this would depend on the management and officials if they will take it seriously and they still have that integrity and conviction to what they do.

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Quote from: Shinpako09 on September 26, 2019, 01:59:30 PM

Nowadays, you need to be more practical in order to live. Although church isn't encouraging people to gamble, some church received donations from lotto winner which is also kind of gambling. Gambling isn't that bad as long as someone get it from legit casino without cheating, then it's not really dirty. I don't see anything wrong accepting a funds that came from gambling if the purpose is for better.

if indeed some churches are able to accept donations from lottery players, then the money generated from gambling certainly cannot be said to be dirty money. maybe the church only feels worried if a lot of people or their followers are involved in gambling can have a negative effect especially on the economic side of people who gamble

Churches will accept donations coming from their followers as they give it for good intention and nobody is asking where it comes.
For me, gambling money is not dirty money unless it comes from illegal activities but as I said, nobody knows where it comes until they tell us.

We can't hold others to be in gambling nor to stop them cause they will always find ways to be there and gamble again. Sound like the addiction is hard to control and sad to say that many were fall into that.

Churches would not ask where the money came from, they just receive the money as that would help them to continue their mission.
There are some people who get a dirty money and donate some in the church to ease the guilt but that is still money, if God will forgive people, then I don't think the church will judge and question where the money is coming, they are not AMLA who trace the history on how your acquired your money, church doesn't know about money laundering or dirty money.

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Quote from: Shinpako09 on September 26, 2019, 01:59:30 PM

Nowadays, you need to be more practical in order to live. Although church isn't encouraging people to gamble, some church received donations from lotto winner which is also kind of gambling. Gambling isn't that bad as long as someone get it from legit casino without cheating, then it's not really dirty. I don't see anything wrong accepting a funds that came from gambling if the purpose is for better.

if indeed some churches are able to accept donations from lottery players, then the money generated from gambling certainly cannot be said to be dirty money. maybe the church only feels worried if a lot of people or their followers are involved in gambling can have a negative effect especially on the economic side of people who gamble

Churches will accept donations coming from their followers as they give it for good intention and nobody is asking where it comes.
For me, gambling money is not dirty money unless it comes from illegal activities but as I said, nobody knows where it comes until they tell us.

We can't hold others to be in gambling nor to stop them cause they will always find ways to be there and gamble again. Sound like the addiction is hard to control and sad to say that many were fall into that.

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Quote from: Juliedarwin on September 23, 2019, 09:37:36 AM

It's all up to you when you hate or do you love and addicted gambling. The people who really Love's and addicted gambling is...they don't mind money where it's came from. But from the people who really hate's gambling for sure they will ask first where the money came from and for sure the first reason that they will put on their mind is the money is from a dirty place where the gamblers are there.

But that’s a specific answer while we are talking about religion connected here .

But still dirty money is from bad earning but if this isn’t legal then it’s not dirty

How can the money obtained from sources that are not legal then that money is not dirty? Because something illegal is something wrong, regardless of where the money generated from gambling I think is not a problem, because the problem here is that every individual has his own opinion about gambling.

I supported what you said because we can't all have the same thought about gambling for whats your food might be someone else poison but logically every money made or earn through something money which is not recognized by the law or country rules are dirty money and the last time I checked gambling are recognized by the law.

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Nowadays, you need to be more practical in order to live. Although church isn't encouraging people to gamble, some church received donations from lotto winner which is also kind of gambling. Gambling isn't that bad as long as someone get it from legit casino without cheating, then it's not really dirty. I don't see anything wrong accepting a funds that came from gambling if the purpose is for better.

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Quote from: lablab03 on September 26, 2019, 09:23:38 AM

It depends on Money that they use for gambling. if the money came from a illegal job etc then that's a dirty money because of addiction on gambling some of people doing illegal just like rubbery or etc for just a small amount of money and they try to gambling it.this kind people are those who have a small source of income, and it's depend on what gambling their have and Status of Life they have.

In my opinion, dirty money can be called only what is obtained by deceiving other people. Many Goverments themselves trade in arms and administer gambling, while prohibiting their citizens from doing the same. That is why I believe that only cheating other people can be an unworthy way to make money. And if the casino does not have special settings to commit fraud, then his money can not be dirty.

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Quote from: Reatim on September 26, 2019, 09:41:32 AM

Quote from: lablab03 on September 26, 2019, 09:23:38 AM

It depends on Money that they use for gambling. if the money came from a illegal job etc then that's a dirty money because of addiction on gambling some of people doing illegal just like rubbery,etc for just a small amount of money and they try to gambling it. and it's depend on what gambling their have because There are also many different type of gambling.

Well the topic really stands for religious matter that’s why OP asked if this is Dirty or not

But that’s true that as long as the money is from good source then there’s nothing to think about being dirty

Quote from: Juliedarwin on September 23, 2019, 09:37:36 AM

It's all up to you when you hate or do you love and addicted gambling. The people who really Love's and addicted gambling is...they don't mind money where it's came from. But from the people who really hate's gambling for sure they will ask first where the money came from and for sure the first reason that they will put on their mind is the money is from a dirty place where the gamblers are there.

But that’s a specific answer while we are talking about religion connected here .

But still dirty money is from bad earning but if this isn’t legal then it’s not dirty

Religion and legal concerns are not the same and there are a lot of things which is legal but in religions it’s not acceptable maybe gambling as well. So if your thinking is to call an illegal things halal it’s not good. I know the money never becomes dirty but the way we use to earn it must be dirty avoid having bad name in gambling.

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Quote from: Reatim on September 26, 2019, 09:41:32 AM

Quote from: lablab03 on September 26, 2019, 09:23:38 AM

It depends on Money that they use for gambling. if the money came from a illegal job etc then that's a dirty money because of addiction on gambling some of people doing illegal just like rubbery,etc for just a small amount of money and they try to gambling it. and it's depend on what gambling their have because There are also many different type of gambling.

Well the topic really stands for religious matter that’s why OP asked if this is Dirty or not

But that’s true that as long as the money is from good source then there’s nothing to think about being dirty

Well, the fact that the profits come from all gambling platforms is not dirty money as long as it is not illegal. Correct, this discussion was really matter on what you had belief on religious because there are gamblers that having a different religious belief. There are religious groups that gambling is evil and there is a religious group ignoring gambling so, let's respect each other belief. If we are gambling to be fair and no one hurts while gambling that is considered clean money.

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Quote from: Reatim on September 26, 2019, 09:41:32 AM

Quote from: Juliedarwin on September 23, 2019, 09:37:36 AM

It's all up to you when you hate or do you love and addicted gambling. The people who really Love's and addicted gambling is...they don't mind money where it's came from. But from the people who really hate's gambling for sure they will ask first where the money came from and for sure the first reason that they will put on their mind is the money is from a dirty place where the gamblers are there.

But that’s a specific answer while we are talking about religion connected here .

But still dirty money is from bad earning but if this isn’t legal then it’s not dirty

How can the money obtained from sources that are not legal then that money is not dirty? Because something illegal is something wrong, regardless of where the money generated from gambling I think is not a problem, because the problem here is that every individual has his own opinion about gambling.

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