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legendary
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August 01, 2021, 05:19:18 AM
Aren't the friendly matches fixed and player don't play at their full potential. Due to this i personally do not like to bet on these matches. I think in friendly matches, often the weak team is made to win or the match is played in such a style so it remains interesting till the end. For me, its risky to bet on these matches.
I did not believe on fixed matches before until I noticed it is actually true, but normal all league matches can be fixed too even more than friendly matches, that is the reason I do not like to place bet on small matches again, also many of the friendly matches are not common, there is possibility of fixing the uncommon ones, but that does not still stop me from trying to choose over 1.5. I understand you very well, going for wining on friendly matches will mostly result to loss because even the underdog can win, but I do not go for straight win in friendly matches.
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August 01, 2021, 04:45:53 AM
The most common friendly matches are both the international  country and club friendlies, long time ago I have seen these type of matches as a way to bet and have fun, many of my betting result are positive most especially if I bet on a single match. The country or club that will win is not certain but I noticed staking on over 1.5 or over 2.5 is always most of the time results to a good outcome.

I am not saying this is a risk free bet, no bet is risk free, but I noticed this type of match most of the time results to many goals scored which makes better for taking over 1.5 or over 2.5 and the games are won.

Some people still like to accumulate, the accumulation can also be positive and won but the more the accumulation the more the high chances of losing. But I do not still see any wrong in accumulating 3 matches, though the chances to lose will increase because as one match lost result to the nullification of the bet, I prefer just a single game in a week.

What do you think about staking on over 1.5 and over 2.5 on international friendlies (both country and club friendlies)? Or do you prefer to go for straight win or draw?

Aren't the friendly matches fixed and player don't play at their full potential. Due to this i personally do not like to bet on these matches. I think in friendly matches, often the weak team is made to win or the match is played in such a style so it remains interesting till the end. For me, its risky to bet on these matches.
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August 01, 2021, 04:33:48 AM
Gambling on friendly match is a high risk gamble, you tend to loose it all as its comprises of fixed matches, a team that you expect to win will just pull a suprise by losing despite being given a very low odds, it's better to play either goal goal or over 2.5 goals in such match, because they don't put in much effort
They're prone to fix matches but you'll never know if the match is fixed or not.

There are still those teams that won't allow such match-fixing to happen because the penalty and punishment are big for these teams if they've been caught.

It's not about match-fixing... A team can lose not because someone arranged it... Sometimes it is not profitable to play the main squad because of upcoming matches and the team does not play the main squad... In fact there may be many possible outcomes that are not in your favour! Wink

Its too hard to play or to bet against a friendly match again there's a possible happen in this kind of game both organizations can talk about the possible chance of winning to win or to throw but if you are a bettor and you know its a friendly match its a higher risk to win, but if this kind of match is the same with the high-rank tournament they could possibly not to throw the game but if just a normal game like a low-class tournament it could possible.

I'm okay with betting in this kind of game, it's not a problem for me as I only put a little bet, I will treat it like entertainment only and not too serious about it. In friendly games, stats won't work so even if your analysis is well-research, you still can't assure which team will win as one team could not exert an effort especially the favorites.
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August 01, 2021, 04:05:54 AM
Gambling on friendly match is a high risk gamble, you tend to loose it all as its comprises of fixed matches, a team that you expect to win will just pull a suprise by losing despite being given a very low odds, it's better to play either goal goal or over 2.5 goals in such match, because they don't put in much effort
They're prone to fix matches but you'll never know if the match is fixed or not.

There are still those teams that won't allow such match-fixing to happen because the penalty and punishment are big for these teams if they've been caught.

It's not about match-fixing... A team can lose not because someone arranged it... Sometimes it is not profitable to play the main squad because of upcoming matches and the team does not play the main squad... In fact there may be many possible outcomes that are not in your favour! Wink

Its too hard to play or to bet against a friendly match again there's a possible happen in this kind of game both organizations can talk about the possible chance of winning to win or to throw but if you are a bettor and you know its a friendly match its a higher risk to win, but if this kind of match is the same with the high-rank tournament they could possibly not to throw the game but if just a normal game like a low-class tournament it could possible.
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August 01, 2021, 03:56:27 AM
Gambling on friendly match is a high risk gamble, you tend to loose it all as its comprises of fixed matches, a team that you expect to win will just pull a suprise by losing despite being given a very low odds, it's better to play either goal goal or over 2.5 goals in such match, because they don't put in much effort
They're prone to fix matches but you'll never know if the match is fixed or not.

There are still those teams that won't allow such match-fixing to happen because the penalty and punishment are big for these teams if they've been caught.

It's not about match-fixing... A team can lose not because someone arranged it... Sometimes it is not profitable to play the main squad because of upcoming matches and the team does not play the main squad... In fact there may be many possible outcomes that are not in your favour! Wink
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August 01, 2021, 03:48:48 AM
Gambling on friendly match is a high risk gamble, you tend to loose it all as its comprises of fixed matches, a team that you expect to win will just pull a suprise by losing despite being given a very low odds, it's better to play either goal goal or over 2.5 goals in such match, because they don't put in much effort
They're prone to fix matches but you'll never know if the match is fixed or not.

There are still those teams that won't allow such match-fixing to happen because the penalty and punishment are big for these teams if they've been caught.
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July 31, 2021, 06:30:23 PM
Gambling on friendly match is a high risk gamble, you tend to loose it all as its comprises of fixed matches, a team that you expect to win will just pull a suprise by losing despite being given a very low odds, it's better to play either goal goal or over 2.5 goals in such match, because they don't put in much effort
Not really that believing about on being fixed because most of this friendly matches are really not serious when it comes to players performance since they do know that it isnt really official

or not really be counted into their statistics and i do barely see that there are odds that been offered with friendly matches or does depend if its really popular or not.

For me its not really that appealing or interesting on betting out on these friendly matches due to those various reasons that had been mentioned.
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July 31, 2021, 06:26:31 PM
As said by the OP, no betting is risk-free but I still consider gambling on friendly matches to be less risky because there won't be much pressure in terms of having game fever, overbetting the amount you can't afford to lose, and there is usually ease of mind in throughout the game result. However, people still need to be sure about the possible winning team before betting on a friendly match.
You are not wrong on what you are mentioning however the fact that both teams are not giving their all when they are facing each other is a problem, after all if a team is not committed at all to win the game while the other tries harder then that gives the second team a great advantage over the first one just by the desire and the effort they are wiling to put to get the win even if the quality of their players was lower, this makes it almost impossible to tell if the odds the casino is giving are good or not.

In friendly matches, teams usually do not use all their core players, because friendly matches do not have a target to win. This is what makes
the final outcome of the game even more difficult to predict, like you said the two teams playing a friendly match will not give everything.
Because they play without a burden, and that makes it quite risky in my opinion betting on friendly matches. My advice to avoid gambling on
friendly matches.

That is not entirely true because again taking up my example from before, if Manchester City plays against a team from the second or third league in England, even that friendly match is a huge highlight for the massive underdog and they might play as intensive as if it was an FA cup game. Everybody of the underdog team wants to present himself in the best shape possible. Perhaps City pays attention and gets interested. The top teams don't play to their full abilities because it is really just a test for them and nothing more.
I support what you said about the underdog putting their full ability in a friendly match game cause they need to convince their manager they are capable of playing in an upcoming match and like I said earlier, it all depends on the two teams involved motivate because we have a situation where the top teams also up in their best because the top eleven is yet to be selected just like we see during some country prepare for the World Cup.

Friendly matches right before a World Cup are very often of poor quality. The difference I pointed out is referring to something else in friendly matches between teams of different league levels. When a team from a lower league plays against a team of the top national league, it is not just a friendly match for the underdog. It could even be a once in a lifetime game. Imagine you are third league in England and play a friendly match against Manchester city. That game means a lot to you, there is a lot of intrinsic motivation involved. While the players of Manchester City, even if they have to prove themselves, won't consider that game as important because there is only so much you can prove against a third league team as a first league player.
Maybe your expectation are high about the friendly matches played before the World Cup or it is because you watch the game between countries with poor football experience because the World Cup friendly I know is not of poor quality.

Regarding a lower class team playing a friendly match against the upper class, the match won't be much important for the upper class but that doesn't mean they won't put in their best because they have a reputation to protect and it is not always about the money.
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July 31, 2021, 10:38:47 AM
You are not wrong on what you are mentioning however the fact that both teams are not giving their all when they are facing each other is a problem, after all if a team is not committed at all to win the game while the other tries harder then that gives the second team a great advantage over the first one just by the desire and the effort they are wiling to put to get the win even if the quality of their players was lower, this makes it almost impossible to tell if the odds the casino is giving are good or not.

In friendly matches, teams usually do not use all their core players, because friendly matches do not have a target to win. This is what makes
the final outcome of the game even more difficult to predict, like you said the two teams playing a friendly match will not give everything.
Because they play without a burden, and that makes it quite risky in my opinion betting on friendly matches. My advice to avoid gambling on
friendly matches.

That is not entirely true because again taking up my example from before, if Manchester City plays against a team from the second or third league in England, even that friendly match is a huge highlight for the massive underdog and they might play as intensive as if it was an FA cup game. Everybody of the underdog team wants to present himself in the best shape possible. Perhaps City pays attention and gets interested. The top teams don't play to their full abilities because it is really just a test for them and nothing more.
Which highlights once again the point that I brought with my previous post, even if a team is not as good as the other if the team that on paper is superior takes a relaxed approach to the game while the other team is doing their best to win then it is not as easy to predict who is going to come up with a victory, obviously the better team should still remain the favorite, but for how much? That's the question and this is why when we see this kind of matches we see a lot of surprises as the team that on paper is not as good is giving their all in order to win.
legendary
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July 31, 2021, 04:15:35 AM
As said by the OP, no betting is risk-free but I still consider gambling on friendly matches to be less risky because there won't be much pressure in terms of having game fever, overbetting the amount you can't afford to lose, and there is usually ease of mind in throughout the game result. However, people still need to be sure about the possible winning team before betting on a friendly match.
You are not wrong on what you are mentioning however the fact that both teams are not giving their all when they are facing each other is a problem, after all if a team is not committed at all to win the game while the other tries harder then that gives the second team a great advantage over the first one just by the desire and the effort they are wiling to put to get the win even if the quality of their players was lower, this makes it almost impossible to tell if the odds the casino is giving are good or not.

In friendly matches, teams usually do not use all their core players, because friendly matches do not have a target to win. This is what makes
the final outcome of the game even more difficult to predict, like you said the two teams playing a friendly match will not give everything.
Because they play without a burden, and that makes it quite risky in my opinion betting on friendly matches. My advice to avoid gambling on
friendly matches.

That is not entirely true because again taking up my example from before, if Manchester City plays against a team from the second or third league in England, even that friendly match is a huge highlight for the massive underdog and they might play as intensive as if it was an FA cup game. Everybody of the underdog team wants to present himself in the best shape possible. Perhaps City pays attention and gets interested. The top teams don't play to their full abilities because it is really just a test for them and nothing more.
I support what you said about the underdog putting their full ability in a friendly match game cause they need to convince their manager they are capable of playing in an upcoming match and like I said earlier, it all depends on the two teams involved motivate because we have a situation where the top teams also up in their best because the top eleven is yet to be selected just like we see during some country prepare for the World Cup.

Friendly matches right before a World Cup are very often of poor quality. The difference I pointed out is referring to something else in friendly matches between teams of different league levels. When a team from a lower league plays against a team of the top national league, it is not just a friendly match for the underdog. It could even be a once in a lifetime game. Imagine you are third league in England and play a friendly match against Manchester city. That game means a lot to you, there is a lot of intrinsic motivation involved. While the players of Manchester City, even if they have to prove themselves, won't consider that game as important because there is only so much you can prove against a third league team as a first league player.
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July 30, 2021, 04:38:06 PM
I always say the same thing for the all-star games on NBA as well, it is just mute point and nobody really cares about winning so when you are betting on it, you are not betting on who is better or who is worse, you are betting on who will have more fun basically. I seriously do not think that we should be betting on friendlies neither, sportsbooks could be offering that as an option to you but you do not have to take it, you could just wait.

Lol, didn't know about all-stars NBA matches that they're are so close to football FM. But i can tell that your point is very correct (if i get it right): When sportsmen get paid BEFORE match or at least they know that they will get a lot of money and bonuses they're don't have any incentive to win, so it's hard to bet on them. The same thing in box (last Mayweather fights) and many other sport events
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July 28, 2021, 04:22:23 PM
Gambling on friendly match is a high risk gamble, you tend to loose it all as its comprises of fixed matches, a team that you expect to win will just pull a suprise by losing despite being given a very low odds, it's better to play either goal goal or over 2.5 goals in such match, because they don't put in much effort
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July 28, 2021, 03:49:56 PM
In friendly matches it may be more difficult to really ascertain the teams strength because in many sports, particularly in soccer, motivation sometimes weights more than raw quality of the players. In a friendly game, it is much more difficult to figure out who is going to put more effort into winning. Also, some teams tend to play harder than other, and during friendly matches that may be much less and would result in a completely different strategy and possibly a different performance. Overall, I think is more difficult to predict.
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July 28, 2021, 03:39:06 PM
As said by the OP, no betting is risk-free but I still consider gambling on friendly matches to be less risky because there won't be much pressure in terms of having game fever, overbetting the amount you can't afford to lose, and there is usually ease of mind in throughout the game result. However, people still need to be sure about the possible winning team before betting on a friendly match.
You are not wrong on what you are mentioning however the fact that both teams are not giving their all when they are facing each other is a problem, after all if a team is not committed at all to win the game while the other tries harder then that gives the second team a great advantage over the first one just by the desire and the effort they are wiling to put to get the win even if the quality of their players was lower, this makes it almost impossible to tell if the odds the casino is giving are good or not.

In friendly matches, teams usually do not use all their core players, because friendly matches do not have a target to win. This is what makes
the final outcome of the game even more difficult to predict, like you said the two teams playing a friendly match will not give everything.
Because they play without a burden, and that makes it quite risky in my opinion betting on friendly matches. My advice to avoid gambling on
friendly matches.

That is not entirely true because again taking up my example from before, if Manchester City plays against a team from the second or third league in England, even that friendly match is a huge highlight for the massive underdog and they might play as intensive as if it was an FA cup game. Everybody of the underdog team wants to present himself in the best shape possible. Perhaps City pays attention and gets interested. The top teams don't play to their full abilities because it is really just a test for them and nothing more.
I support what you said about the underdog putting their full ability in a friendly match game cause they need to convince their manager they are capable of playing in an upcoming match and like I said earlier, it all depends on the two teams involved motivate because we have a situation where the top teams also up in their best because the top eleven is yet to be selected just like we see during some country prepare for the World Cup.
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July 28, 2021, 12:44:00 AM
I always say the same thing for the all-star games on NBA as well, it is just mute point and nobody really cares about winning so when you are betting on it, you are not betting on who is better or who is worse, you are betting on who will have more fun basically. I seriously do not think that we should be betting on friendlies neither, sportsbooks could be offering that as an option to you but you do not have to take it, you could just wait.

I understand that during the off-season it becomes harder to not gamble on anything and waiting for the regular season to start, and yes that is a bit hard but at the same time we are talking about something that is very risky to wager instead of no wager, if you are not addicted to gambling then maybe you should try to stay away from those games. Any team could beat any team in friendlies and that is a risk I rather not take.

I do not have a lot of experience with basketball, honestly it is one of the sports that I know very little, but I thought that when they were friendly games, they were almost like a football style, since in football they do not care much the word "friendly" and Many times fights occur, and serve the coaches to give an idea of how the style of the game is and the strategies applied by the opposing team.

Although I like the fact that NBA's basketball friendly games are to have fun, it means that they do not care about the result, and I think it is what is sought in a game friendly.
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July 27, 2021, 05:01:35 PM
I think this state of affairs is relevant for backward countries where business is not developed, but corruption is developed. In any developed country, top management will keep away from such affairs as far as possible, since even a suspicion of this can have serious consequences for a career, and if there is evidence, this will mean a criminal sentence.
However, sometimes big clubs just try a few strategies before the start of the league. When the strategy works well then of course, big wins will be unstoppable. But on the other hand, when the coach applies an experimental strategy with second-tier or even third-tier players being played, then it has a chance of getting defeated by the team that is underestimated. I have often found this case in the past few years, for that reason it is also better for me to avoid betting in friendly matches because for me, surprise scores are not only about manipulation because they can occur due to errors in strategy implementation due to experiments carried out in friendly matches.

Yes, unpleasant surprises are very likely here. For example, I know that some people like to bet on the number of goals in friendly matches (it is assumed that it should be higher than the average for the teams), but if a coach in a particular fight tries to hone a closed game aimed at keeping the score, then such bets usually fail.
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July 27, 2021, 01:50:26 PM
Lol. Is there any game we have control over? It is called football game and anything can happen with any game. Underdogs are turning tables and causing heartbreaks. To my view, I don't think there games we have control over but we can say greater percentage favourable to a team.
We don't have control over the games that we bet on. Friendly match or not, we do not control them. And for these friendly matches, the only one that has control over them are the higher management which seems going to be possible for them to manipulate the results at their will. In some sporting events, this is really happening and we don't know when that's going to happen but some athletes have voiced out that this is really an insider and happens as it's against their will.

In friendly matches is much harder to predict the outcome of the match compared to the championship or the game for the cup as the coach can create more unpredictable situations and guess the team composition or strategy used in the upcoming game is almost unreal. 
I think it varies but we can say that both are unpredictable but with what I've observed for some sports that I've watched with friendly matches, they're likely just having fun.
There's a bit of seriousness into their games but it's still different from the usual counted games and seasons that we watch for the particular sports that we watch.
legendary
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July 27, 2021, 01:18:22 PM
I always say the same thing for the all-star games on NBA as well, it is just mute point and nobody really cares about winning so when you are betting on it, you are not betting on who is better or who is worse, you are betting on who will have more fun basically. I seriously do not think that we should be betting on friendlies neither, sportsbooks could be offering that as an option to you but you do not have to take it, you could just wait.

I understand that during the off-season it becomes harder to not gamble on anything and waiting for the regular season to start, and yes that is a bit hard but at the same time we are talking about something that is very risky to wager instead of no wager, if you are not addicted to gambling then maybe you should try to stay away from those games. Any team could beat any team in friendlies and that is a risk I rather not take.
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July 27, 2021, 11:29:14 AM

In friendly matches is much harder to predict the outcome of the match compared to the championship or the game for the cup as the coach can create more unpredictable situations and guess the team composition or strategy used in the upcoming game is almost unreal.  

Since it's just a friendly match and there's no bearing with the game, coach can rotate players which is uncommon to how we predict the
line up inside the field.

It's tough to know as there's always reserves that we don't expect to happen but  possible to see during the game, from that case
if you are more on the gambling side, taking the over / under might be  better to consider.

Also, if you have that risky type instinct ML for underdog might gather your interest too. Roll Eyes Grin
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July 27, 2021, 09:45:19 AM
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Do quantitative statistics show the accuracy of factual data circulating in the field?
Not really !! could lead to data manipulation. Then how to find the accuracy? well the qualitative method will show a much more tangible risk, it's just that it's difficult to do and as you said we prefer to look at the data that is already presented.
Bookies often use this method and cheat small bettors. Betting money on friendly games, just a less stressful bet.
That only depends though I mean if it's and independent study by different people, there's a low chance of the statistics being manipulated, I don't think that math can be faked, it's an absolute thing and even if it's faked, there will be people that will be eager to point out the mistake.
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