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Quote from: Slow death on July 23, 2021, 05:33:41 PM

honestly I prefer to bet on premier league games, series A, la Liga, Portuguese league, French league, German league , friendly games there will be little pressure, there will be little effort to win while in league games teams are more focused on fighting to become champions and also due to the great importance that some leagues have, one can easily obtain a lot of relevant data to analyze the game and have a good idea of which team can win

Let me give you some better tips on some of these popular leagues you have mentioned. I realize that the lower leagues there, the divisions, league 1,2 championship and infact unknown leagues there are easier to get your bets in green and they come with bigger odds rather than betting on popular leagues like premiership that has lots of offsets.

Quote from: Slow death on July 23, 2021, 05:33:41 PM

focus on betting on games that I have control over

Lol. Is there any game we have control over? It is called football game and anything can happen with any game. Underdogs are turning tables and causing heartbreaks. To my view, I don't think there games we have control over but we can say greater percentage favourable to a team.

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Quote from: harizen on July 23, 2021, 06:19:44 AM

Quote from: Maus0728 on July 21, 2021, 01:43:27 AM

Isn't it possible that these friendly matches might become "fixed matches," with the winner determined before the game begins? This indicates that there is a great deal of corruption going on behind the scenes in these matches, with no competitive or strategic play.

I don't see the benefits of turning these friendly-matched into rigged. There is no big thing at stake as the purpose is just a simple "friendly game". You can't also expect a competitive or serious game at these types of matches.

For let's say, that a friendly match game is rigged, bettors won't know it so still, the risks are there just like how they placed who will win on a certain match. Might be a disadvantage but that's how gambling works.

If by a rigged match we mean that the players will strive to make some kind of result on purpose, then this makes a lot of sense - they can place bets in bookmakers on that result through dummies and win money. The main problem is that bookmakers keep track of this moment: if too many bets are received on some result, they immediately understand that something is not clean here.

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Quote from: harizen on July 23, 2021, 10:17:55 PM

Quote from: pinggoki on July 23, 2021, 06:56:42 PM

Then again if I were to be betting in friendly matches I will put my money on the underdog if they are at play because of the reasons I have stated above. They can play as relaxed as they want while I will get my free win at the end of it.

No such thing as a free win even stats will tell you that underdogs are far better on winning rates compare to favorites in a friendly match. As you said, both teams are relaxed, which means the possibility of those players on the underdog team might also not spend time playing much.

That's the reason I don't bet on friendly matches as there's no bearing and honestly more risky to bet compared to a regular and actual match. I can compare it to my approach towards NBA Pre-Season games wherein some teams are playing and test their rosters prior to the actual start of the season. I'm only betting here with some considerations.

There is one exception to your rule: I once bet on a team from the second English league against Manchester United in a friendly match. The odds for winning both halfs were insanely high on the second league team and I just gave it a gamble because I was quite sure Manchester United will try a lot of things, young players and so on. That's exactly what happened and while this is like ten years ago or so, Manchester did lose 4 to 1 or something. The odds were double digits close to 20 if I remember correctly.

So betting on the absolute underdog might be worth a gamble from time to time in friendly matches Wink

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Quote from: Slow death on July 23, 2021, 05:33:41 PM

honestly I prefer to bet on premier league games, series A, la Liga, Portuguese league, French league, German league focus on betting on games that I have control over, friendly games there will be little pressure, there will be little effort to win while in league games teams are more focused on fighting to become champions and also due to the great importance that some leagues have, one can easily obtain a lot of relevant data to analyze the game and have a good idea of which team can win

I don't think friendly matches are about trying to win, because as far as I know friendly matches are just to test some strategies and also, the players being played are not the main players. This is what makes me avoid betting on friendly matches, indeed sometimes the matches are interesting but most of them don't try to win because this is only a friendly match which of course will have no prestige in the match, so the result of losing will not be a problem for the team.

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Quote from: pinggoki on July 23, 2021, 06:56:42 PM

Then again if I were to be betting in friendly matches I will put my money on the underdog if they are at play because of the reasons I have stated above. They can play as relaxed as they want while I will get my free win at the end of it.

No such thing as a free win even stats will tell you that underdogs are far better on winning rates compare to favorites in a friendly match. As you said, both teams are relaxed, which means the possibility of those players on the underdog team might also not spend time playing much.

That's the reason I don't bet on friendly matches as there's no bearing and honestly more risky to bet compared to a regular and actual match. I can compare it to my approach towards NBA Pre-Season games wherein some teams are playing and test their rosters prior to the actual start of the season. I'm only betting here with some considerations.

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Friendly matches like this where there is no real prize at stake for the ones at play are the ones I try to avoid the most. Not because of anything ritualistic, just that I find it hard to win when gambling in matches like this probably because there is little to no pressure involved between two teams, so they can play as relaxed or as aggressive as they want without worries. I also notice that a good percentage of these friendly matches side with the underdogs probably because the top contenders don't have anything to put in line anyway.

Quote from: Slow death on July 23, 2021, 05:33:41 PM

honestly I prefer to bet on premier league games, series A, la Liga, Portuguese league, French league, German league focus on betting on games that I have control over, friendly games there will be little pressure, there will be little effort to win while in league games teams are more focused on fighting to become champions and also due to the great importance that some leagues have, one can easily obtain a lot of relevant data to analyze the game and have a good idea of which team can win

Exactly my reason. I am happy that at least someone notices this trend. Then again if I were to be betting in friendly matches I will put my money on the underdog if they are at play because of the reasons I have stated above. They can play as relaxed as they want while I will get my free win at the end of it.

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honestly I prefer to bet on premier league games, series A, la Liga, Portuguese league, French league, German league focus on betting on games that I have control over, friendly games there will be little pressure, there will be little effort to win while in league games teams are more focused on fighting to become champions and also due to the great importance that some leagues have, one can easily obtain a lot of relevant data to analyze the game and have a good idea of which team can win

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Quote from: Oshosondy on July 18, 2021, 01:38:43 AM

The most common friendly matches are both the international country and club friendlies, long time ago I have seen these type of matches as a way to bet and have fun, many of my betting result are positive most especially if I bet on a single match. The country or club that will win is not certain but I noticed staking on over 1.5 or over 2.5 is always most of the time results to a good outcome.

I am not saying this is a risk free bet, no bet is risk free, but I noticed this type of match most of the time results to many goals scored which makes better for taking over 1.5 or over 2.5 and the games are won.

Some people still like to accumulate, the accumulation can also be positive and won but the more the accumulation the more the high chances of losing. But I do not still see any wrong in accumulating 3 matches, though the chances to lose will increase because as one match lost result to the nullification of the bet, I prefer just a single game in a week.

What do you think about staking on over 1.5 and over 2.5 on international friendlies (both country and club friendlies)? Or do you prefer to go for straight win or draw?

A lot of people are always going for goals in this matches. Because most of the teams dont go with their first squad. The side effect is that some teams arent serious about this kind of matches and are trying out some things. Also 90% of the times there isnt additional time so that lowers the chances for goals as well

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on July 22, 2021, 03:55:41 PM

As said by the OP, no betting is risk-free but I still consider gambling on friendly matches to be less risky because there won't be much pressure in terms of having game fever, overbetting the amount you can't afford to lose, and there is usually ease of mind in throughout the game result. However, people still need to be sure about the possible winning team before betting on a friendly match.

Can't agree. Friendly matches is high risk activity. Because you never know how much any team is motivated for winning. In ordinary match you know that both teams are highly motivated to win and you can't ignore this question and concentrate on players stats, team history and so on. But in friendly matches you need to depend on very abstract term of "motivation" which you can't measure in any way.
More things to pay attention - harder to predict.

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Quote from: just_Alice on July 23, 2021, 04:41:11 PM

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I don't care much whether a game is competitive or just friendly but as long as I recognize the players and know their skills, I make my bets based on that without thinking too much and because I bet on winner more than over and over goals, I don't really care too much about how many goals each team do as long as my team comes out victorious.

But that’s the problem with this kind of matches, even if you know the team and the skills well - nothing is guaranteed, because there’s nothing at stake for the teams, so they might not play to the best of their abilities and allow themselves something they wouldn’t have allowed in a tournament.

Do you trust your teams enough to be willing to take that risk?

Well, this is just an exhibition game, right? This is very risky to gamble because you don't know how serious they are because this is not a competition --this is just an event whose prize money and impact on the team's rankings are either zero too. But we still gamble on this since we don't know who will win the game but don't expect that they give their best, this is just entertainment or just to provide professional entertainment and players aiming at the prize. However, this game was so having fun to watch.

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Quote from: fullhdpixel on July 21, 2021, 04:01:00 PM

I don't care much whether a game is competitive or just friendly but as long as I recognize the players and know their skills, I make my bets based on that without thinking too much and because I bet on winner more than over and over goals, I don't really care too much about how many goals each team do as long as my team comes out victorious.

But that’s the problem with this kind of matches, even if you know the team and the skills well - nothing is guaranteed, because there’s nothing at stake for the teams, so they might not play to the best of their abilities and allow themselves something they wouldn’t have allowed in a tournament.

Do you trust your teams enough to be willing to take that risk?

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Quote from: Oshosondy on July 23, 2021, 04:11:24 AM

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As said by the OP, no betting is risk-free but I still consider gambling on friendly matches to be less risky because there won't be much pressure in terms of having game fever, overbetting the amount you can't afford to lose, and there is usually ease of mind in throughout the game result. However, people still need to be sure about the possible winning team before betting on a friendly match.

That is true, no bet is risk-free, even if the chance of the club to win that someone think is 99%, it is still very possible the 1% chance to lose will be the outcome of the match, that is just how gambling is. But specifically speaking of friendly matches, it is better not to go for a particular team because the underdog can be the winner because of some reasons some of us have discussed above like a strong team not using their best players and also the players playing in a way not to have injury. Going for straight win will not be good than going for total goals that will be scores but with over 1.5 or over 2.5 goals while someone suggested going for over 1.5 total goals.

I agree with what you said about the best team not to use their players to avoid injury while they test their bench players performance ahead of the upcoming tournaments and some teams don't always put much effort when playing friend matches, it is good to know this type team but as you said straight to win it good in this condition.

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Quote from: Maus0728 on July 21, 2021, 01:43:27 AM

Isn't it possible that these friendly matches might become "fixed matches," with the winner determined before the game begins? This indicates that there is a great deal of corruption going on behind the scenes in these matches, with no competitive or strategic play.

I don't see the benefits of turning these friendly-matched into rigged. There is no big thing at stake as the purpose is just a simple "friendly game". You can't also expect a competitive or serious game at these types of matches.

For let's say, that a friendly match game is rigged, bettors won't know it so still, the risks are there just like how they placed who will win on a certain match. Might be a disadvantage but that's how gambling works.

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on July 22, 2021, 03:55:41 PM

As said by the OP, no betting is risk-free but I still consider gambling on friendly matches to be less risky because there won't be much pressure in terms of having game fever, overbetting the amount you can't afford to lose, and there is usually ease of mind in throughout the game result. However, people still need to be sure about the possible winning team before betting on a friendly match.

That is true, no bet is risk-free, even if the chance of the club to win that someone think is 99%, it is still very possible the 1% chance to lose will be the outcome of the match, that is just how gambling is. But specifically speaking of friendly matches, it is better not to go for a particular team because the underdog can be the winner because of some reasons some of us have discussed above like a strong team not using their best players and also the players playing in a way not to have injury. Going for straight win will not be good than going for total goals that will be scores but with over 1.5 or over 2.5 goals while someone suggested going for over 1.5 total goals.

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Quote from: goaldigger on July 21, 2021, 03:32:33 PM

Quote from: Maus0728 on July 21, 2021, 01:43:27 AM

Isn't it possible that these friendly matches might become "fixed matches," with the winner determined before the game begins? This indicates that there is a great deal of corruption going on behind the scenes in these matches, with no competitive or strategic play.

Some may also argue that matches like this are merely for the purpose of putting their training into practice which means that the result does not matter.

Friendly matches serves as a training of course especially if you have an incoming fights, your team will look into someone and ask for a friendly match, whatever the result is the purpose is not to win or lose but to be train and gain a good experience.

I agree. Friendly matches are there to get experience, test the team and improve which is why I don't see the point in betting on those matches.

Yes, there might be the ego that a winner is a winner but in the scheme of things it is not the main event so interest will be lower than a normal match and so will the reward. The way I see it, if the reward doesn't match the risk or time spent on it then I won't pursue.

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Betting on a friendly match may be as risky as others. However, how we can ensure that they play well is sometimes little bit different and difficult. We all know that a friendly match sometimes becomes surprising, moreover if one side club is not really serious at all. Although this may be a small chance to find this.

Quote from: palle11 on July 22, 2021, 04:35:15 PM

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I do think so.
Even this bet may be also one of the favorites, this is sometimes very surprising.
It may also be also caused by the "friendly macth" itself where the players may not play hard at that time.

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Straight win is far safer and friendlier to your money compared to staking or doing accumulators. While players of such matches are still giving their best to win, you can tell that they are in it for the fans’ enjoyment. More goals are expected on these types of events to hype up the fans and support the clubs that are in the game, or to have them anticipate for the next matches that these guys will play on.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on July 18, 2021, 02:16:21 PM

No, I say ... no betting should be allowed on friendly matches. I have seen some Rugby matches in the past where the opposing teams left tackles for fun and laughter in friendly matches or they will ask a non kicker to kick for poles.

You can actually make a bet but don't put your hope on it as you should do unserious bet with little money. Like in football, friendly games usually seen lots of goals because of the nature of the game and that works more than betting on draws. One better thing about such bet is that it is on few games that are played mostly Wednesday and Thursday, do you can concentrate to pick out your favourable games.

There are some sites that offers a bet for a friendly matches, so it’s about the risk that you’ll take on this if you bet for the friendly match because the result can be more different and I’m sure players will not take this seriously and that’s why we’ve seen unbelievable scores.

You can bet at your own risk, little money is fine but if you’re planning to put big money I’d rather not to. Do place your bet on real matches at least the risk is lesser compare to that, and it’s more fun because that’s a real one.

Results could really be different because most likely you would really be seeing underdogs would mostly beat up those better ones which it isn't a surprising thing but it isn't bad to place up some bets if you are really that interested.

For my part, I don't really put it in mind about betting with these friendly matches because I cant really just feel the thrill compared when you do bet on games which are really aiming for the championship or simply means that each team is putting up their best on the game.

Well, this is a personal choice and preference and this is why we do see different opinions on here.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on July 18, 2021, 02:16:21 PM

No, I say ... no betting should be allowed on friendly matches. I have seen some Rugby matches in the past where the opposing teams left tackles for fun and laughter in friendly matches or they will ask a non kicker to kick for poles.

You can actually make a bet but don't put your hope on it as you should do unserious bet with little money. Like in football, friendly games usually seen lots of goals because of the nature of the game and that works more than betting on draws. One better thing about such bet is that it is on few games that are played mostly Wednesday and Thursday, do you can concentrate to pick out your favourable games.

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As said by the OP, no betting is risk-free but I still consider gambling on friendly matches to be less risky because there won't be much pressure in terms of having game fever, overbetting the amount you can't afford to lose, and there is usually ease of mind in throughout the game result. However, people still need to be sure about the possible winning team before betting on a friendly match.

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