Gambling on Psychology & Sociology Perspectives.

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Quote from: Cookdata on August 23, 2022, 01:02:13 PM

In gambling, you can have the skills but it also requires luck, if it doesn't favour you that day, you may go home empty handed and may still look as entertainment to those who only do it for fun and not as a means to make money.
If gambling is a tradition, I believe that cultural perspective must have taken it to be entertainment and not necessary must win, even from what Op says, you are required to test it to get rid of bad luck and if the outcome doesn't favour you, that doesn't mean you will fail in life. Sometimes, only what you believe can affect you, these may just be superstitious to some people.

I think if gambling is treated as a tradition of testing luck, then it should not have any negative impact on anyone. I know that there are other traditions (although they are not common in my country) - fortune cookies. I doubt that anyone seriously believes in such predictions and gets upset if they did not receive a cookie with the "right" prediction. This is nothing more than entertainment. Or, for example, there are other traditions (which are somehow common in my country) - these are Christmas fortune-telling. A lot of people do this but I haven't heard anyone take it seriously. It's just a holiday ritual.

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in fact there is no single religion that requires its adherents to gamble but many cultures in some countries allow gambling because it is not part of a crime

religion requires us not to be greedy and make other people lose, so gambling is not allowed according to religion because it can make people greedy and greed is the root of evil

This is definitely true. Gambling is not allowed in some religious beliefs because it promotes greediness which is against biblical teaching. But we can't blame some believers who gamble because they still have their hope in gambling. They see it as a way to reach success and have a wealthy life.

Lets just respect on what they do believe even though it is some sort that too restrictive or much that of a prohibition but its their religion or culture and lets just respect on what they do believe.

As long they wouldnt really be putting any harm into other people then it should be fine.It is really just there are people who are really that too highly reactive whenever they do see things which are
really that uncommon.
Gambling is for entertainment nothing less but there are negative things which would really be created something out of it specially if emotions would take up some play.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on August 24, 2022, 10:18:49 AM

I personally dislike winner mentality in our global culture. I mean winning is surely awesome thing, everyone wants to be successful at anything including gambling. Although, is defeat killer thing? I personally like gambler mentality a bit because of it. It reminds me Rocky Balbao quote: "It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward; how much you can take and keep moving forward. That's how winning is done!"
I feel like this mentality can work even in gambling if you know what you are doing. But I can agree with your "addiction" argument as well. My Rocky Balboa quote works in games where skill is more important than luck.

Not effective most of the time since there are things in life which you would really be needing to be that wise on stopping or making yourself that aware on how things been happening.If you do apply this kind of

saying or principle on gambling then would really be ending up on wrecking yourself not only with finances but also in other important aspect in life since you've been pushing yourself into something which cant really

be that easily achievable and you would really be creating that kind of desperation if you do apply this kind of mindset.Winning is all we do have in mind but there are certain key areas which it isnt
really that a good idea on pushing it through.

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The Chinese have a lot of cultures and believe that their citizens hold high esteem and if they gamble just to test they luck that shows to a great extent how luck has a high stake in gambling. But then skills are most important even though the article place skills as a shadow belief which I may not agree with that assumption.

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When all forms are carried out that require emotions there will clearly have an impact on people's psychology, especially in this case gambling, the impact is clear because here it definitely gives emotion in the game.
Regardless of whether it is bad or not in society, actually things like this are a choice because indeed things like gambling like this are a choice and when we enter there we must also be prepared to accept the consequences.

Maybe gambling looks bad in society, but maybe not for everyone, especially those who often gamble. Those who say that gambling is not bad may still be able to control themselves so that they do not get too big of a consequence or risk from gambling. Meanwhile, we have also seen many people who have fallen from gambling and lost many things in their lives, especially their loved ones. But most people will not see or accept the consequences of gambling, especially if they suffer a loss from gambling. They will instead continue to play in the hope of recovering their losses.

I don't think so, regardless of whether you're a gambler or not, I think the stigma of gambling is something that isn't good. It's natural because that's the fact and that stigma can't be reversed because it will stay the same and I think everyone is aware that gambling is an act. which is not very good.
Why do we still gamble maybe there are several options that are the reason, such as there are people who still depend on their lives here (even though it's wrong) and there are also those who only think this is a game and just to have fun in their spare time.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on August 24, 2022, 10:18:49 AM

I personally dislike winner mentality in our global culture. I mean winning is surely awesome thing, everyone wants to be successful at anything including gambling. Although, is defeat killer thing? I personally like gambler mentality a bit because of it. It reminds me Rocky Balbao quote: "It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward; how much you can take and keep moving forward. That's how winning is done!"
I feel like this mentality can work even in gambling if you know what you are doing. But I can agree with your "addiction" arhument as well. My Rocky Balboa quote works in games where skill is more important than luck.

All will be concluded in how you can balance yourself in terms of both financial and mental position. Yeah, it's true that the statement can be adopted from gambling as long as you know your limitation and you are not going to exceed, you can stop and pause for a while if you are being hit by bad losing streak, try to chill and relax then come back with a much clearer mindset to try giving your best with any sports or gambling games that you love the most.

Though the argument with getting addicted is really something that we can't control, as there are people who really fall into this problem,

best to stay with the plan that you set up and never to lose track of your gambling engagements.

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Me going home with empty pocket is not very entertaining at all. I don't think it would before majority of the people who has wife and kids. It may be for the rich who are not having money problems but finance is always the reason for wife and husbands quarrel, you get entertained in the casino but at home will not be entertaining.

The Chinese has distinctive look of things and gambling is among it but one reason gambling is ban in China is probably because gambling produces more dysfunctional families so they created an isolated place where only rich are able to gamble.

We share the same sentiments. Trying to try out your luck through gambling isn't really gonna work out fine everytime. The odds wouldn't be a hundred percent on your favor every single time you make a bet. There are probability in certain game that you would win or lose. Depending on your strategy, the rtp, and luck will be the basis of you either winning or losing. Not just entirely luck unless of course you are playing slots or roulette. But this game has also a greater chancr of winning inclined with the house, so, still, it's already altered. We're still talking about probability.

Gambling just to test your odds and degree of luckiness sounds absurd to me. Because if ever you belong to the poverty line, how would you even afford to do it without breaking your budget? For me, the necessities should be prioritized over a tradition if ever I were be in a culture that would require such, I will do my own ways.

Necessities should be prioritized against anything else. Before you go to satisfy your lust, make sure that you have already settled. All you need budgeting your money to balance whatever you think that you wanted to do with your life is always the priority. Unless you already suffering from gambling addiction, this kind of settlement is already hard to fix.

Especially if you are in the side or inline with poverty, the desire is to double your money each time possibilities can be done

but most of the time, instead of making a good win, it will go to the other side and you'll see yourself losing a lot.

when on the side of the road with poverty and become addicted to gambling, this will be an opportunity to continue playing without any control. everything will be at stake until there is nothing left, because they are sure to get a win. but in fact defeat dominates. no more rules for budgeting money because it's too addicted. and this can only be stopped by rehabilitation or there must also be a will from oneself. Psychologically this will disturb the mental and continue to be eager to play and sociologically it will disrupt social harmony so that no one cares and is reluctant to help gamblers from their addiction, usually people with a gambling addict background will be more aggressive or irritable and tend to commit acts of violence. criminals to earn money to gamble.

I personally dislike winner mentality in our global culture. I mean winning is surely awesome thing, everyone wants to be successful at anything including gambling. Although, is defeat killer thing? I personally like gambler mentality a bit because of it. It reminds me Rocky Balbao quote: "It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward; how much you can take and keep moving forward. That's how winning is done!"
I feel like this mentality can work even in gambling if you know what you are doing. But I can agree with your "addiction" argument as well. My Rocky Balboa quote works in games where skill is more important than luck.

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Me going home with empty pocket is not very entertaining at all. I don't think it would before majority of the people who has wife and kids. It may be for the rich who are not having money problems but finance is always the reason for wife and husbands quarrel, you get entertained in the casino but at home will not be entertaining.

The Chinese has distinctive look of things and gambling is among it but one reason gambling is ban in China is probably because gambling produces more dysfunctional families so they created an isolated place where only rich are able to gamble.

We share the same sentiments. Trying to try out your luck through gambling isn't really gonna work out fine everytime. The odds wouldn't be a hundred percent on your favor every single time you make a bet. There are probability in certain game that you would win or lose. Depending on your strategy, the rtp, and luck will be the basis of you either winning or losing. Not just entirely luck unless of course you are playing slots or roulette. But this game has also a greater chancr of winning inclined with the house, so, still, it's already altered. We're still talking about probability.

Gambling just to test your odds and degree of luckiness sounds absurd to me. Because if ever you belong to the poverty line, how would you even afford to do it without breaking your budget? For me, the necessities should be prioritized over a tradition if ever I were be in a culture that would require such, I will do my own ways.

Necessities should be prioritized against anything else. Before you go to satisfy your lust, make sure that you have already settled. All you need budgeting your money to balance whatever you think that you wanted to do with your life is always the priority. Unless you already suffering from gambling addiction, this kind of settlement is already hard to fix.

Especially if you are in the side or inline with poverty, the desire is to double your money each time possibilities can be done

but most of the time, instead of making a good win, it will go to the other side and you'll see yourself losing a lot.

when on the side of the road with poverty and become addicted to gambling, this will be an opportunity to continue playing without any control. everything will be at stake until there is nothing left, because they are sure to get a win. but in fact defeat dominates. no more rules for budgeting money because it's too addicted. and this can only be stopped by rehabilitation or there must also be a will from oneself. Psychologically this will disturb the mental and continue to be eager to play and sociologically it will disrupt social harmony so that no one cares and is reluctant to help gamblers from their addiction, usually people with a gambling addict background will be more aggressive or irritable and tend to commit acts of violence. criminals to earn money to gamble.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on August 24, 2022, 06:39:24 AM

Quote from: cabron on July 19, 2022, 03:31:20 PM

Me going home with empty pocket is not very entertaining at all. I don't think it would before majority of the people who has wife and kids. It may be for the rich who are not having money problems but finance is always the reason for wife and husbands quarrel, you get entertained in the casino but at home will not be entertaining.

The Chinese has distinctive look of things and gambling is among it but one reason gambling is ban in China is probably because gambling produces more dysfunctional families so they created an isolated place where only rich are able to gamble.

We share the same sentiments. Trying to try out your luck through gambling isn't really gonna work out fine everytime. The odds wouldn't be a hundred percent on your favor every single time you make a bet. There are probability in certain game that you would win or lose. Depending on your strategy, the rtp, and luck will be the basis of you either winning or losing. Not just entirely luck unless of course you are playing slots or roulette. But this game has also a greater chancr of winning inclined with the house, so, still, it's already altered. We're still talking about probability.

Gambling just to test your odds and degree of luckiness sounds absurd to me. Because if ever you belong to the poverty line, how would you even afford to do it without breaking your budget? For me, the necessities should be prioritized over a tradition if ever I were be in a culture that would require such, I will do my own ways.

Necessities should be prioritized against anything else. Before you go to satisfy your lust, make sure that you have already settled. All you need budgeting your money to balance whatever you think that you wanted to do with your life is always the priority. Unless you already suffering from gambling addiction, this kind of settlement is already hard to fix.

Especially if you are in the side or inline with poverty, the desire is to double your money each time possibilities can be done

but most of the time, instead of making a good win, it will go to the other side and you'll see yourself losing a lot.

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Quote from: alpamar99 on August 24, 2022, 02:10:41 AM

When all forms are carried out that require emotions there will clearly have an impact on people's psychology, especially in this case gambling, the impact is clear because here it definitely gives emotion in the game.
Regardless of whether it is bad or not in society, actually things like this are a choice because indeed things like gambling like this are a choice and when we enter there we must also be prepared to accept the consequences.

Maybe gambling looks bad in society, but maybe not for everyone, especially those who often gamble. Those who say that gambling is not bad may still be able to control themselves so that they do not get too big of a consequence or risk from gambling. Meanwhile, we have also seen many people who have fallen from gambling and lost many things in their lives, especially their loved ones. But most people will not see or accept the consequences of gambling, especially if they suffer a loss from gambling. They will instead continue to play in the hope of recovering their losses.

it's tricky
a bit like alcohol
it can be a good source of escapism and entertainment but it can also destroy families and make people dependent, agressive and disconnected from themselves.

some say the difference between the vaccine and the poison is the dose.

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Yes, gambling and trying to play it has some kind of magic, and at this moment you begin to overestimate your expectations of winning, which can later play a cruel joke in an attempt to try your luck and you have to make efforts to give it up. But in the end you realize that you made the right choice in favor of giving up than continuing and you find some inner balance.

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Quote from: cabron on July 19, 2022, 03:31:20 PM

Me going home with empty pocket is not very entertaining at all. I don't think it would before majority of the people who has wife and kids. It may be for the rich who are not having money problems but finance is always the reason for wife and husbands quarrel, you get entertained in the casino but at home will not be entertaining.

The Chinese has distinctive look of things and gambling is among it but one reason gambling is ban in China is probably because gambling produces more dysfunctional families so they created an isolated place where only rich are able to gamble.

We share the same sentiments. Trying to try out your luck through gambling isn't really gonna work out fine everytime. The odds wouldn't be a hundred percent on your favor every single time you make a bet. There are probability in certain game that you would win or lose. Depending on your strategy, the rtp, and luck will be the basis of you either winning or losing. Not just entirely luck unless of course you are playing slots or roulette. But this game has also a greater chancr of winning inclined with the house, so, still, it's already altered. We're still talking about probability.

Gambling just to test your odds and degree of luckiness sounds absurd to me. Because if ever you belong to the poverty line, how would you even afford to do it without breaking your budget? For me, the necessities should be prioritized over a tradition if ever I were be in a culture that would require such, I will do my own ways.

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Quote from: alpamar99 on August 24, 2022, 02:10:41 AM

When all forms are carried out that require emotions there will clearly have an impact on people's psychology, especially in this case gambling, the impact is clear because here it definitely gives emotion in the game.
Regardless of whether it is bad or not in society, actually things like this are a choice because indeed things like gambling like this are a choice and when we enter there we must also be prepared to accept the consequences.

Maybe gambling looks bad in society, but maybe not for everyone, especially those who often gamble. Those who say that gambling is not bad may still be able to control themselves so that they do not get too big of a consequence or risk from gambling. Meanwhile, we have also seen many people who have fallen from gambling and lost many things in their lives, especially their loved ones. But most people will not see or accept the consequences of gambling, especially if they suffer a loss from gambling. They will instead continue to play in the hope of recovering their losses.

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I didn't know that this kind of thing is part of their culture most of the time it is just to seek entertainment and earning to the who play I guess this kind of thing is part of the beliefs of the people and we know that in the different culture there's a belief regarding with the luck so I guess it is good to test it out to them if this kind of enchant or beliefs is suitable to them or effective.

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Quote from: Renampun on July 19, 2022, 12:27:35 PM

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this does sound funny but what do you do if it turns out that your culture requires you to play gambling?
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These days people normally are not doing what their culture "requires" from them. For example, Scottish people do not wear a kilt everyday. In fact, many people don't even follow the religion of their their ancestors, don't speak their native language and so on.

So, no way something like "my culture requires me to gamble" can be an excuse for someone's gambling addiction. But if you are just having fun with gambling, "trying your luck", or whatever, and you have no problems with stopping at any moment, then you can say, just for the fun of it, "It's in my culture". I see nothing wrong with this attitude.

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Firstly, who even made it necessary to gamble with cash? One can play gamble with almost anything of a worthy possession and that's one of the bad sides. But who doesn't want to win? The adrenaline pumps us up at the moment, the dopamine makes us happy and thus, we want to try again.
Gamblers need to know what is worth losing and what is not. Find a strong reason to control the urge to stake what you can't afford to lose despite the tempting price/reward you stand to earn.

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Quote from: Hamza2424 on August 23, 2022, 10:53:12 AM

Your topic is very exciting my point of view ia Gambling impact directly your Psychological Health as once you win you continue to gamble and thats very dengrous for those who are connected qith you as got addicted and sometimes your Lose you cant handle it. On the side society its too bad as no new Survice is generating already exiting money is circulating between people by no efforts.

When all forms are carried out that require emotions there will clearly have an impact on people's psychology, especially in this case gambling, the impact is clear because here it definitely gives emotion in the game.
Regardless of whether it is bad or not in society, actually things like this are a choice because indeed things like gambling like this are a choice and when we enter there we must also be prepared to accept the consequences.

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Quote from: Renampun on July 19, 2022, 12:27:35 PM

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Gambling is part of Chinese culture. It is seen as the right way to test luck, especially on holidays like Chinese New Year, as well as to get rid of bad luck.

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I was quite surprised when I read this article for the first time because they gamble not for money or pleasure but because of the culture to test luck.

this does sound funny but what do you do if it turns out that your culture requires you to play gambling?

slightly diverting from the topic above, I'm interested in Mark Griffiths' research;

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Mark Griffiths, a psychologist at Nottingham Trent University who specializes in addictive behavior says that gamblers have a lot of motivation for their habit.
In a survey of 5,500 gamblers, the prospect of “winning big money” was the strongest factor. But then followed by "because it's fun" and "because it's fun".

"Even when you lose a gamble, your body still produces adrenaline and endorphins," he says.

“People buy entertainment.”

Not much is known about the design of these machines on player behavior, but, for example, many machines and casinos use red or something similar – which is considered more stimulating.

And interestingly, there are examples of cases where gamblers develop “shadow-skills” as a justification for earning those possible rewards.

Griffiths gave the example of a game engine in the UK which was designed with the adaptive logic in mind that the device would deliver more than the consumer was given over a period of time, and after that the device would return to the normal system.
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You touch on a couple different topics there and possibly intermingle them more than you should. First off, the Chinese attachment to luck or destiny is a bit of a relic that Mao was not able to drive out during all the spiritual/religious purges in the past, which the CCCP somewhat tries to continue today. It is the idea that if you win, you deserve to win, rather than it just being mathematical odds playing out. It's also pervasive in other parts of their society and not necessarily a positive societal crutch they rely on. Secondly, there are some people who genuinely figure out how to maximize returns from certain live "slot" or arcade type machines, but they need to be in highly trafficked areas for that sort of strategy to be successful.

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Quote from: D ltr on August 22, 2022, 11:22:33 AM

Quote from: Renampun on July 19, 2022, 12:27:35 PM

what do you do if it turns out that your culture requires you to play gambling?

there's nothing wrong with trying to gamble if it's a tradition, but if you go home empty handed it's not entertainment, but bad luck is not luck
Gambling for tradition I think is natural, because it has been around for a long time,
but if gambling for new greed we must avoid it

In gambling, you can have the skills but it also requires luck, if it doesn't favour you that day, you may go home empty handed and may still look as entertainment to those who only do it for fun and not as a means to make money.
If gambling is a tradition, I believe that cultural perspective must have taken it to be entertainment and not necessary must win, even from what Op says, you are required to test it to get rid of bad luck and if the outcome doesn't favour you, that doesn't mean you will fail in life. Sometimes, only what you believe can affect you, these may just be superstitious to some people.

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Your topic is very exciting my point of view ia Gambling impact directly your Psychological Health as once you win you continue to gamble and thats very dengrous for those who are connected qith you as got addicted and sometimes your Lose you cant handle it. On the side society its too bad as no new Survice is generating already exiting money is circulating between people by no efforts.

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