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Quote from: len01 on August 21, 2022, 10:59:33 PM

it is true that gambling is like betting on luck how much luck we have on that day.
but in gambling for me luck has a very small chance to get it. so there are still many people out there who consider gambling just for entertainment or to fill their spare time. but that's all actually to cover up being disappointed when you always lose at gambling and actually hoping to win to get more money.
no one wants to lose constantly spending money and losing at gambling, unless the person is very rich.

An excuse that's the right term to continue playing, if you lose then you convince yourself that luck is not with you and you are accepting your defeat since you are using an amount that you are willing to let go, but eventually your desire in winning will increase and your appetite for gambling will exceed to your allotted budget and after that you will find yourself getting engaged too much to the point that you are already addicted.

We can't measure or we can't conclude anything as it's an opinion base any inputs have value to how a person thinks about the situation.

Yes they are making excuses because if they are sincere of only playing only to get entertained, there is no need for them to play again or deposit again the second time once they have lost their first deposit. Playing gambling to have fun doesn't always be expensive but a small amount will be enough because you can still budget it and only use tiny amounts per spin/bet. You can even play without betting at all.

It is sad but many gamblers are like that, they keep on coming back to the casino in the hopes that they can win this time. I am not exempted to this but I stop because I feel annoyed. My losses are already big compared to my target win which is only small.

Good for you if you can still manage to quit instead of pushing back and make additional deposit when you already lose your initial deposit, there are people who got excited and misinterpret the enjoyment, instead of moving away they add more to their bankroll and losses more or exceeded from the original target amount that they are willing to spend and lose in each gambling sessions that they deal with.

A kind of mismanagement that mostly leads also to addiction or heavy gamings. You need to be strict with your set targets both for winnings and losing amount, then stop when it's already been reached.

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Quote from: Fredomago on August 21, 2022, 11:12:25 PM

Quote from: len01 on August 21, 2022, 10:59:33 PM

it is true that gambling is like betting on luck how much luck we have on that day.
but in gambling for me luck has a very small chance to get it. so there are still many people out there who consider gambling just for entertainment or to fill their spare time. but that's all actually to cover up being disappointed when you always lose at gambling and actually hoping to win to get more money.
no one wants to lose constantly spending money and losing at gambling, unless the person is very rich.

An excuse that's the right term to continue playing, if you lose then you convince yourself that luck is not with you and you are accepting your defeat since you are using an amount that you are willing to let go, but eventually your desire in winning will increase and your appetite for gambling will exceed to your allotted budget and after that you will find yourself getting engaged too much to the point that you are already addicted.

We can't measure or we can't conclude anything as it's an opinion base any inputs have value to how a person thinks about the situation.

Yes they are making excuses because if they are sincere of only playing only to get entertained, there is no need for them to play again or deposit again the second time once they have lost their first deposit. Playing gambling to have fun doesn't always be expensive but a small amount will be enough because you can still budget it and only use tiny amounts per spin/bet. You can even play without betting at all.

It is sad but many gamblers are like that, they keep on coming back to the casino in the hopes that they can win this time. I am not exempted to this but I stop because I feel annoyed. My losses are already big compared to my target win which is only small.

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Quote from: Wapfika on July 20, 2022, 07:04:49 AM

In my experience, I was always lucky playing gambling when I really feel it because I’m always positive that the outcome of my bet will be win no matter what I play. I think being positive always serves as motivation to bet without no restrictions by feeling of losing the game. I think luck works that way since if we are positive playing, We can control ourself to bet excessively since we only bet max bet when we are already feeling down of losing.

I do tell people that gambling is the one of the things that does not come up with that way. Gambling is totally way of people testing their luck. Some people don't understand if gambling is meant for them or gambling is not meant for them. Theirs what i understand concerning gambling. Because when you look at it you will see that is by chance and opportunity

Gambling activity isnt really a test whether its for you or not because it is typically for everybody it is really just people do really end up on messing up their lives because of the decision that they had made.

If you are a person whose really that impulsive and too emotional then gambling isnt really for you and most likely you would really be making bad decisions towards it or on the time you do make out engagement.

It all matters with the control and awareness of your actions.If you do seek for leisure then gambling wont be a bad choice as long you do know your limits in terms of finances
then you are really just doing fine with it.

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in fact there is no single religion that requires its adherents to gamble but many cultures in some countries allow gambling because it is not part of a crime

religion requires us not to be greedy and make other people lose, so gambling is not allowed according to religion because it can make people greedy and greed is the root of evil

I don't want to be too focused on some religious settings that prohibit gambling because they feel it makes people greedy and doesn't want to lose. On the other hand, don't you think Arabians spend money on sports and signed new players than some other parts of the continent, they pay more to have these credible players and if you ask me, I will say they are taking too much risk to win leagues because of the money attached to the trophies, isn't that greedy and definitely, others will lose too considering the amount other teams and effort they do invest in those leagues.

Gambling should be fun and as the OP says, the primary objective is the money for the majority but it shouldn't turn to an addicted thing.

which makes religion forbid because in terms of loss it starts to be brutal, and loses everything. why religion forbids this partly because it is mentally healthy so as not to be carried away by the destructive currents of life, when we are out of control because the lust we are chasing makes something less good as it happens. the religion of the book is true to straighten out what is essentially too much is not good. if we can control and not damage the mental, life is brutal. maybe religion doesn't forbid

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But anyway, I wonder if Chinese people would consider this thing like taking a loan if they don't have a money so that they could just gamble to follow what's part of their culture or maybe it just depends on everyone's choices.

Will the Chinese do anything including borrowing money just to gamble as an activity of their cultural tradition? Obviously not, this is a stereotype, Chinese people are no different from other people in general, gambling is a personal matter.

You must be able to distinguish between personal gambling and gambling from a Chinese cultural perspective. In short, gambling in Chinese culture is a game of dexterity based on betting, while the common gambling is to try luck to get big money.

Frugality i think is what most Chinese people seeing it as top priority. The fact that they are very concern with how they can save up for future usage, then its not practical to borrow money just to gamble because its part of the tradition. Although they gamble in some occasions, but most Chinese people do not focus on gambling as there are other productive works to do that they can gain more profits like taking investments. In fact, there are places in China where gambling is prohibited or banned.

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Quote from: Renampun on July 19, 2022, 12:27:35 PM

what do you do if it turns out that your culture requires you to play gambling?

there's nothing wrong with trying to gamble if it's a tradition, but if you go home empty handed it's not entertainment, but bad luck is not luck
Gambling for tradition I think is natural, because it has been around for a long time,
but if gambling for new greed we must avoid it

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This is definitely true. Gambling is not allowed in some religious beliefs because it promotes greediness which is against biblical teaching. But we can't blame some believers who gamble because they still have their hope in gambling. They see it as a way to reach success and have a wealthy life.

when discussing the economic potential that can be obtained from gambling, then you are absolutely right that we should not see gambling as a bad thing

although on average there are more people who lose and suffer because of gambling, but many also live their lives depending on gambling and the gambling business, even the taxes that the state can generate are very large, so we must be able to see gambling from various sides (not just one side)

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Gambling companies are telling people that gambling is for entertainment purposes. Yet most people entered into gambling thinking they can get rich or at least take sums of money. I bet regularly of course with intentions of winning but the primary purpose is to be entertained. I enjoyed watching my favorite sports games when having bets regardless of the amount.

Gambling traditions do exist and I respect that. But if that certain tradition is wrecking people's lives then authorities need to take action to protect its people. I also heard that Chinese people are keen on finding luck as part of their beliefs but they are also well-disciplined people. And China is one of the biggest volume in the betting industry in the world.

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Quote from: davis196 on July 20, 2022, 12:32:03 AM

I don't get the "trying your luck via gambling" thing. You could try your luck without betting money on it. Grin

Unfortunately most of the people gamble because of that hidden subconscious thought that they will make a "big hit" and they will win big money without any efforts. This is basically your "monkey mind" playing tricks on you. I remember that the subconscious mind was called "monkey mind" by buddhism and keeping your monkey mind under control is the most important part of growing as a person.
I'm no expert in Chinese culture and we have to ask some Chinese guy about the theory of gambling being a big part of Chinese culture.
My culture definitely doesn't require me to gamble. Gambling is still viewed as a bad thing where I live, despite many people visiting the offline casinos and playing lottery.

Same in my country, gambling has a negative stigma to it and people never really talk about it in the open. And yet in every bigger city there are physical casinos, sports betting places and at every cigarette shop you can buy scratch cards. From my friends I know that they all also like to gamble from time to time, even it's just playing lottery. The motivation behind this kind of occasional gambling is winning the jackpot, it's not about making 5 bucks and feel like you have luck. It's rather losing a small amount of money to have a chance of winning big and also the opportunity to dream about making such kind of money. It's fun to talk among friends what to do with the 50m jackpot. But it's not really testing how lucky you are. This is very different to people who gamble regularly every week in casinos and invest a lot of money with it. For them it's still about making money but it can't be the only motivation. Investing so much money and time it became a form of entertainment and a way to relax after a stressful day, similar to drinking some beers in a bar after work.

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Gambling is part of Chinese culture. It is seen as the right way to test luck, especially on holidays like Chinese New Year, as well as to get rid of bad luck.

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I was quite surprised when I read this article for the first time because they gamble not for money or pleasure but because of the culture to test luck.

this does sound funny but what do you do if it turns out that your culture requires you to play gambling?

I don't want to judge certain people on what they believe or about their culture as much as I don't want people to judge me on our beliefs, if the Chinese culture encourages gambling to its believer it is for a certain period of time and not to be part of their life, I also a believer of some Chinese culture and had Chinese friends and they are not into gambling but they once explain to me that some beliefs on their practices are for some period of time, and this could be one of them.

It is true. We shouldn't judge certain people based on culture because it's clear that each of us has a different culture and surely we will feel weird seeing their culture. Gambling has been around for a long time and is everywhere, not just the Chinese. So when we see Chinese culture to test luck, it may relate to something else we won't know. But I don't think it will be circulated widely if many Chinese people think gambling can lead to poverty, especially for young people who can filter out the bad and choose the good.

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Quote from: darkangel11 on August 21, 2022, 06:19:08 PM

Strong? It's rather a thing of being responsible. Would you call strong someone who made their family fall into debt, but did not give up? Maybe there was some strength involved but the dominant problem was childish, irresponsible behavior of a gambler who gambles with a loan he cannot repay.
I really hope those sleepless nights will teach you something.

Rather foolish I guess, we have sometimes done some things that we thought are really good for ourselves and others, but in reality, it becomes something bad and not praise-worthy and we begin to realize it as soon as we clearly see things when the actual problem occurs. When this happens, the strong person is he who will gonna make it right no matter how much embarrassment he could get just to change himself for good. Not many people can do this stuff and most of them are just strong to face the reality and begin to change themselves to be praise-worthy people.

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Quote from: Cookdata on August 22, 2022, 06:23:17 AM

I don't want to be too focused on some religious settings that prohibit gambling because they feel it makes people greedy and doesn't want to lose. On the other hand, don't you think Arabians spend money on sports and signed new players than some other parts of the continent, they pay more to have these credible players and if you ask me, I will say they are taking too much risk to win leagues because of the money attached to the trophies, isn't that greedy and definitely, others will lose too considering the amount other teams and effort they do invest in those leagues.

Gambling should be fun and as the OP says, the primary objective is the money for the majority but it shouldn't turn to an addicted thing.

No, it's not like that. it is just they just want us to have our self awareness because sometimes we tend to deny that we are not falling into addiction but in reality the greediness inside is slowly eating us, it is not bad to play or it is not bad to gamble we just need to discipline ourselves. In regards with Arabians, maybe because they are very entertained playing gambling? they are not greedy but they are just having fun, we all know that most arab people are businessman and rich.

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Quote from: Tumanggor on August 21, 2022, 04:19:37 PM

in fact there is no single religion that requires its adherents to gamble but many cultures in some countries allow gambling because it is not part of a crime

religion requires us not to be greedy and make other people lose, so gambling is not allowed according to religion because it can make people greedy and greed is the root of evil

I don't want to be too focused on some religious settings that prohibit gambling because they feel it makes people greedy and doesn't want to lose. On the other hand, don't you think Arabians spend money on sports and signed new players than some other parts of the continent, they pay more to have these credible players and if you ask me, I will say they are taking too much risk to win leagues because of the money attached to the trophies, isn't that greedy and definitely, others will lose too considering the amount other teams and effort they do invest in those leagues.

Gambling should be fun and as the OP says, the primary objective is the money for the majority but it shouldn't turn to an addicted thing.

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Quote from: Renampun on July 19, 2022, 12:27:35 PM

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Gambling is part of Chinese culture. It is seen as the right way to test luck, especially on holidays like Chinese New Year, as well as to get rid of bad luck.

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I was quite surprised when I read this article for the first time because they gamble not for money or pleasure but because of the culture to test luck.

this does sound funny but what do you do if it turns out that your culture requires you to play gambling?

I don't want to judge certain people on what they believe or about their culture as much as I don't want people to judge me on our beliefs, if the Chinese culture encourages gambling to its believer it is for a certain period of time and not to be part of their life, I also a believer of some Chinese culture and had Chinese friends and they are not into gambling but they once explain to me that some beliefs on their practices are for some period of time, and this could be one of them.

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Quote from: len01 on August 21, 2022, 10:59:33 PM

Quote from: Renampun on July 19, 2022, 12:27:35 PM

I was quite surprised when I read this article for the first time because they gamble not for money or pleasure but because of the culture to test luck.

it is true that gambling is like betting on luck how much luck we have on that day.
but in gambling for me luck has a very small chance to get it. so there are still many people out there who consider gambling just for entertainment or to fill their spare time. but that's all actually to cover up being disappointed when you always lose at gambling and actually hoping to win to get more money.
no one wants to lose constantly spending money and losing at gambling, unless the person is very rich.

If it's part of the tradition then why not? Indeed, in different cultures there are different types of "offerings to the gods" which in modern conditions have turned into something like charity. When you donate to charity or spend on traditional entertainment (like New Year's Eve), you don't expect to make a profit, do you? If the symbolic spending on the "test of luck" is perceived as such and this is an element of culture, then there is nothing special about it.

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Everything can make a person greedy. Job can make a person greedy, so is job not allowed in a religion? Food can make a person glutton, so is food not allowed in a religion? Anyway I am just stating a fact that not all the religion elders interpretation are correct. It should be verified with what is written in the scripture. Besides the possibility that a religious leaders has incorrect knowledge had been proven by history. One of which is about the sun rotating around the earth which they aggressively pursue those who has different view about it.

What you are saying is correct, however those which believe in whatever is written on their holy book as correct will most likely disregard your argument, for those people there is no room for argument, if it is written then it must be correct and that is it, which explains why there are so many people that even today believe that the sun is the one that moves around the earth or believe that the earth itself is flat and not round as all the research indicates.

Each of us can believe whatever we want, but I believe that we should not have a certain point of view imposed on us, as is done in religion. Besides, even religious people very often violate some religious prohibitions and try not to talk about it. Religion is designed to control humanity and if you understand this you are most likely an atheist.

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Quote from: len01 on August 21, 2022, 10:59:33 PM

Quote from: Renampun on July 19, 2022, 12:27:35 PM

I was quite surprised when I read this article for the first time because they gamble not for money or pleasure but because of the culture to test luck.

it is true that gambling is like betting on luck how much luck we have on that day.
but in gambling for me luck has a very small chance to get it. so there are still many people out there who consider gambling just for entertainment or to fill their spare time. but that's all actually to cover up being disappointed when you always lose at gambling and actually hoping to win to get more money.
no one wants to lose constantly spending money and losing at gambling, unless the person is very rich.

An excuse that's the right term to continue playing, if you lose then you convince yourself that luck is not with you and you are accepting your defeat since you are using an amount that you are willing to let go, but eventually your desire in winning will increase and your appetite for gambling will exceed to your allotted budget and after that you will find yourself getting engaged too much to the point that you are already addicted.

We can't measure or we can't conclude anything as it's an opinion base any inputs have value to how a person thinks about the situation.

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Quote from: Renampun on July 19, 2022, 12:27:35 PM

I was quite surprised when I read this article for the first time because they gamble not for money or pleasure but because of the culture to test luck.

it is true that gambling is like betting on luck how much luck we have on that day.
but in gambling for me luck has a very small chance to get it. so there are still many people out there who consider gambling just for entertainment or to fill their spare time. but that's all actually to cover up being disappointed when you always lose at gambling and actually hoping to win to get more money.
no one wants to lose constantly spending money and losing at gambling, unless the person is very rich.

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Quote from: BitcoinPanther on August 21, 2022, 05:28:40 PM

Everything can make a person greedy. Job can make a person greedy, so is job not allowed in a religion? Food can make a person glutton, so is food not allowed in a religion? Anyway I am just stating a fact that not all the religion elders interpretation are correct. It should be verified with what is written in the scripture. Besides the possibility that a religious leaders has incorrect knowledge had been proven by history. One of which is about the sun rotating around the earth which they aggressively pursue those who has different view about it.

What you are saying is correct, however those which believe in whatever is written on their holy book as correct will most likely disregard your argument, for those people there is no room for argument, if it is written then it must be correct and that is it, which explains why there are so many people that even today believe that the sun is the one that moves around the earth or believe that the earth itself is flat and not round as all the research indicates.

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It is true Chinese people are well connected with their traditional activities. This is the reason why gambling got more importance during the early stages. Gambling in the early days were used as a means of entertainment, but in the later days the change happened. Surely there'll be some Chinese people who doesn't gamble, and if you go through different games they play in their regions it'll be very different and interesting.

Different cultures different mindsets - chinese are very different people they have no mercy for the other people - they go with their mind.
But what happens when the loan is lost and you are in double debt - I am just going through the same situation of losing the loan amount and I am having sleepless nights how I am going to pay off the debt. Strong people who manages the finances this way.

Strong? It's rather a thing of being responsible. Would you call strong someone who made their family fall into debt, but did not give up? Maybe there was some strength involved but the dominant problem was childish, irresponsible behavior of a gambler who gambles with a loan he cannot repay.
I really hope those sleepless nights will teach you something.

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