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Quote from: BitcoinPanther on August 21, 2022, 05:28:40 PM

It is new to me that some players are engaged in gambling activity because their culture requiring them to test their luck. But I am curious as to why the government of China ban gambling when it is inculcated in their history and culture that gambling is part of its citizen's "daily" lives.

Quote from: Tumanggor on August 21, 2022, 04:19:37 PM

in fact there is no single religion that requires its adherents to gamble but many cultures in some countries allow gambling because it is not part of a crime

religion requires us not to be greedy and make other people lose, so gambling is not allowed according to religion because it can make people greedy and greed is the root of evil

Everything can make a person greedy. Job can make a person greedy, so is job not allowed in a religion? Food can make a person glutton, so is food not allowed in a religion? Anyway I am just stating a fact that not all the religion elders interpretation are correct. It should be verified with what is written in the scripture. Besides the possibility that a religious leaders has incorrect knowledge had been proven by history. One of which is about the sun rotating around the earth which they aggressively pursue those who has different view about it.

as we all know, there are so many things China is banning to its people. not only gambling but even some normal way of life like the use of FB or twitter. so there's no surprise if they will ban gambling activities. but yes, they are just giving some of its people to gamble underground as a lot of them for sure are also gambling behind locked doors.

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Gambling is very popular in China and India.
They have that in their culture and they are legally allowed to it. Unlike other islamic countries in South Asian region like Pakistan, Bangladesh

When we do talk about involvement of things or trying out to preserve then it would be considered to be part of culture but speaking
about gambling prohibition with Islam then it is really connected to religious aspect which we know that there's still some religions who acts the same as well.
https://www.luwaran.com/news/article/882/gambling-is-haram--prohibited-
https://www.learnreligions.com/what-does-the-quran-say-about-gambling-2004114

in fact there is no single religion that requires its adherents to gamble but many cultures in some countries allow gambling because it is not part of a crime

religion requires us not to be greedy and make other people lose, so gambling is not allowed according to religion because it can make people greedy and greed is the root of evil

This is definitely true. Gambling is not allowed in some religious beliefs because it promotes greediness which is against biblical teaching. But we can't blame some believers who gamble because they still have their hope in gambling. They see it as a way to reach success and have a wealthy life.

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Quote from: BitcoinPanther on August 21, 2022, 05:28:40 PM

Quote from: Tumanggor on August 21, 2022, 04:19:37 PM

in fact there is no single religion that requires its adherents to gamble but many cultures in some countries allow gambling because it is not part of a crime

religion requires us not to be greedy and make other people lose, so gambling is not allowed according to religion because it can make people greedy and greed is the root of evil

Everything can make a person greedy. Job can make a person greedy, so is job not allowed in a religion? Food can make a person glutton, so is food not allowed in a religion? Anyway I am just stating a fact that not all the religion elders interpretation are correct. It should be verified with what is written in the scripture. Besides the possibility that a religious leaders has incorrect knowledge had been proven by history. One of which is about the sun rotating around the earth which they aggressively pursue those who has different view about it.

Apart from religious issues in this case for greed, indeed all humans have this because it is a natural thing that they have.
Everyone has emotions and it is clear that greed is something that is unavoidable considering that we as humans are dissatisfied with anything and always think of getting more.
Religion is too sacred in this regard so I won't go into anything related to gambling.

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It is new to me that some players are engaged in gambling activity because their culture requiring them to test their luck. But I am curious as to why the government of China ban gambling when it is inculcated in their history and culture that gambling is part of its citizen's "daily" lives.

Quote from: Tumanggor on August 21, 2022, 04:19:37 PM

in fact there is no single religion that requires its adherents to gamble but many cultures in some countries allow gambling because it is not part of a crime

religion requires us not to be greedy and make other people lose, so gambling is not allowed according to religion because it can make people greedy and greed is the root of evil

Everything can make a person greedy. Job can make a person greedy, so is job not allowed in a religion? Food can make a person glutton, so is food not allowed in a religion? Anyway I am just stating a fact that not all the religion elders interpretation are correct. It should be verified with what is written in the scripture. Besides the possibility that a religious leaders has incorrect knowledge had been proven by history. One of which is about the sun rotating around the earth which they aggressively pursue those who has different view about it.

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Quote from: mm2543363580 on August 07, 2022, 06:53:11 PM

Quote from: terrorJR on August 03, 2022, 02:40:38 PM

Quote from: n0ne on July 31, 2022, 06:59:43 PM

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Gambling is very popular in China and India.
They have that in their culture and they are legally allowed to it. Unlike other islamic countries in South Asian region like Pakistan, Bangladesh

When we do talk about involvement of things or trying out to preserve then it would be considered to be part of culture but speaking
about gambling prohibition with Islam then it is really connected to religious aspect which we know that there's still some religions who acts the same as well.
https://www.luwaran.com/news/article/882/gambling-is-haram--prohibited-
https://www.learnreligions.com/what-does-the-quran-say-about-gambling-2004114

in fact there is no single religion that requires its adherents to gamble but many cultures in some countries allow gambling because it is not part of a crime

religion requires us not to be greedy and make other people lose, so gambling is not allowed according to religion because it can make people greedy and greed is the root of evil

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Quote from: n0ne on July 31, 2022, 06:59:43 PM

It is true Chinese people are well connected with their traditional activities. This is the reason why gambling got more importance during the early stages. Gambling in the early days were used as a means of entertainment, but in the later days the change happened. Surely there'll be some Chinese people who doesn't gamble, and if you go through different games they play in their regions it'll be very different and interesting.

That's true and it's a fact.
Regardless of where he lived when he had a lineage from China, this is still very closely related to the culture they follow and this is actually quite good because indeed they are one of the things that must be followed when talking about country and culture which is today for some people. like this is not really needed.

Gambling there has existed for a long time but there are still some rules that can indeed be said to be inherited from their ancestors which they often do in gambling until now such as doing something ritual first or indeed following their Feng Shui flow so that they can be in harmony and get profits in gambling (according to their beliefs).

Gambling is very popular in China and India.
They have that in their culture and they are legally allowed to it. Unlike other islamic countries in South Asian region like Pakistan, Bangladesh

When we do talk about involvement of things or trying out to preserve then it would be considered to be part of culture but speaking
about gambling prohibition with Islam then it is really connected to religious aspect which we know that there's still some religions who acts the same as well.
https://www.luwaran.com/news/article/882/gambling-is-haram--prohibited-
https://www.learnreligions.com/what-does-the-quran-say-about-gambling-2004114

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Quote from: livingfree on July 28, 2022, 06:59:20 PM

I find this thread as a thread of merging several topics about gambling and it's a good one. For the first one, there's the relation and sort of feng shui to it and that's why they want to test their luck. Yeah, what a way to test your luck and it's part of their culture so there's no question to that whether they're in for entertainment or for money.

I think with these researches, they're on point and we as gamblers will really have something to say and reason out for the decisions that we're about to do. Whatever is our purpose, there's something of its cause that we want to achieve and if it's not achieved by us, we tend to say another reason which is also valid upon explanation just to hide the actual reason out of our frustration.

Well when I read the title of the thread, the first thing that came to mind was in sociology, which meant doing public relations, and the psychological part was the part as such, but there are many versions, according to what I spoke with a psychologist, tells me that there is no psychology of trading, that there is no psychology of Gambling, but only psychology exists and that is what sets the tone for anything, just as there is no psychology of sport, our entire psyche is the that tells us what we should do, that many times our subconscious is the one who gives the orders and it is executed almost in the long term, I think this is a topic that can be extended a lot.

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Quote from: terrorJR on August 03, 2022, 02:40:38 PM

Quote from: n0ne on July 31, 2022, 06:59:43 PM

It is true Chinese people are well connected with their traditional activities. This is the reason why gambling got more importance during the early stages. Gambling in the early days were used as a means of entertainment, but in the later days the change happened. Surely there'll be some Chinese people who doesn't gamble, and if you go through different games they play in their regions it'll be very different and interesting.

That's true and it's a fact.
Regardless of where he lived when he had a lineage from China, this is still very closely related to the culture they follow and this is actually quite good because indeed they are one of the things that must be followed when talking about country and culture which is today for some people. like this is not really needed.

Gambling there has existed for a long time but there are still some rules that can indeed be said to be inherited from their ancestors which they often do in gambling until now such as doing something ritual first or indeed following their Feng Shui flow so that they can be in harmony and get profits in gambling (according to their beliefs).

Gambling is very popular in China and India.
They have that in their culture and they are legally allowed to it. Unlike other islamic countries in South Asian region like Pakistan, Bangladesh

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Quote from: n0ne on July 31, 2022, 06:59:43 PM

It is true Chinese people are well connected with their traditional activities. This is the reason why gambling got more importance during the early stages. Gambling in the early days were used as a means of entertainment, but in the later days the change happened. Surely there'll be some Chinese people who doesn't gamble, and if you go through different games they play in their regions it'll be very different and interesting.

That's true and it's a fact.
Regardless of where he lived when he had a lineage from China, this is still very closely related to the culture they follow and this is actually quite good because indeed they are one of the things that must be followed when talking about country and culture which is today for some people. like this is not really needed.

Gambling there has existed for a long time but there are still some rules that can indeed be said to be inherited from their ancestors which they often do in gambling until now such as doing something ritual first or indeed following their Feng Shui flow so that they can be in harmony and get profits in gambling (according to their beliefs).

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It is quite common that when people are facing desperate times they try all kind of measures that even if they know they make no sense in their desperation they do not see any other way to get additional money.

It is because of this we need to do what we can not to get into a situation like that, so it is important to have a cash reserve of several months in case of a family emergency, losing our jobs, we have to pay an expensive car repair or the countless scenarios which make us to spend money that was not in our budget at the time.

You always need to have reserves, this will help protect yourself from rash and forced decisions. If you have to live in rented housing and you are left without a job and there is no money set asided, then you can say, that you are falling into a trap. Then it will be necessary to agree to any job just to earn something, and if there are savings, then there will be time to correct the current situation, then there will be fewer mistakes and it will be calmer.

What happens is that a lot of people regardless of how much money they earn live paycheck to paycheck, they indebt themselves for stuff they do not even need and they end up wasting a great deal of their money, so when they are hit with adversity they have no way to deal with it and they fall in desperate times.

However this can be easily avoided, if a person saved 20% of their paycheck each month in just 15 months they would have saved the equivalent of 3 months of their salary, which is more than enough to overcome some of the most common negative scenarios that a person will face during their life.

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Quote from: n0ne on July 31, 2022, 06:59:43 PM

Quote from: Tumanggor on July 31, 2022, 05:26:10 PM

Most of the Chinese people I know, several times make loans just to bet, because gambling is their tradition, it automatically affects their mindset so they will do whatever it takes to keep betting or gambling

In fact, I would be very surprised if there were genuine Chinese people who never made loans to gamble (even in small amounts) Lol

It is true Chinese people are well connected with their traditional activities. This is the reason why gambling got more importance during the early stages. Gambling in the early days were used as a means of entertainment, but in the later days the change happened. Surely there'll be some Chinese people who doesn't gamble, and if you go through different games they play in their regions it'll be very different and interesting.

If you really think about it a lot of gambling games originated in China, especially the well-known Mahjong where it has been played a long time ago. Gambling for me is part of their essential activities which is why Chinese people are well-known when it comes to money, casinos, and businesses. Gambling is a means of entertainment for them a long time ago up until today and I don't really see much changed about that other than more options and games have been made. Also, there's a possibility of some of them are not gambling at all and staying away from but most of them does which is also why is has been limited by their government.

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Quote from: n0ne on July 31, 2022, 06:59:43 PM

It is true Chinese people are well connected with their traditional activities. This is the reason why gambling got more importance during the early stages. Gambling in the early days were used as a means of entertainment, but in the later days the change happened. Surely there'll be some Chinese people who doesn't gamble, and if you go through different games they play in their regions it'll be very different and interesting.

Different cultures different mindsets - chinese are very different people they have no mercy for the other people - they go with their mind.
But what happens when the loan is lost and you are in double debt - I am just going through the same situation of losing the loan amount and I am having sleepless nights how I am going to pay off the debt. Strong people who manages the finances this way.

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A lot of Chinese would probably take the loan but not gamble it. Only a handful of those people are taking loans to actually gamble and destroy their life. I fully agree that this is more of a personal matter than a cultural thing. While the Chinese are known to gamble a lot based on their history and culture, a lot of them would still think differently and avoid this path as much as possible.

Most of the Chinese people I know, several times make loans just to bet, because gambling is their tradition, it automatically affects their mindset so they will do whatever it takes to keep betting or gambling

In fact, I would be very surprised if there were genuine Chinese people who never made loans to gamble (even in small amounts) Lol

It is true Chinese people are well connected with their traditional activities. This is the reason why gambling got more importance during the early stages. Gambling in the early days were used as a means of entertainment, but in the later days the change happened. Surely there'll be some Chinese people who doesn't gamble, and if you go through different games they play in their regions it'll be very different and interesting.

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Quote from: dothebeats on July 31, 2022, 01:57:29 PM

Quote from: rahmad2nd on July 31, 2022, 01:51:42 PM

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A lot of Chinese would probably take the loan but not gamble it. Only a handful of those people are taking loans to actually gamble and destroy their life. I fully agree that this is more of a personal matter than a cultural thing. While the Chinese are known to gamble a lot based on their history and culture, a lot of them would still think differently and avoid this path as much as possible.

Most of the Chinese people I know, several times make loans just to bet, because gambling is their tradition, it automatically affects their mindset so they will do whatever it takes to keep betting or gambling

In fact, I would be very surprised if there were genuine Chinese people who never made loans to gamble (even in small amounts) Lol

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Quote from: Quidat on July 31, 2022, 02:48:08 PM

There's nothing wrong if you do gamble even if you do it on constant basis as long you do make yourself that responsible and fully aware on things that might happen if you do lost control of your finances.

Doesnt matter on what race do you have because it would really be on the same situation as long you do have a good control or not then you would definitely experiencing basing on what you have done.

The most important thing is to make yourself have in good control towards it because if not then you do know on where you do end.

I highly agree. The result will be the same regardless what is our races. If we failed to control ourselves, we will end up having a complusive gambling disorder. Thus, we need to have control, have our gambling activities in moderation. Plan our gambling activities ahead and stick to it.

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Quote from: dothebeats on July 31, 2022, 01:57:29 PM

Quote from: rahmad2nd on July 31, 2022, 01:51:42 PM

Quote from: Oceat on July 31, 2022, 12:22:25 PM

But anyway, I wonder if Chinese people would consider this thing like taking a loan if they don't have a money so that they could just gamble to follow what's part of their culture or maybe it just depends on everyone's choices.

Will the Chinese do anything including borrowing money just to gamble as an activity of their cultural tradition? Obviously not, this is a stereotype, Chinese people are no different from other people in general, gambling is a personal matter.

You must be able to distinguish between personal gambling and gambling from a Chinese cultural perspective. In short, gambling in Chinese culture is a game of dexterity based on betting, while the common gambling is to try luck to get big money.

A lot of Chinese would probably take the loan but not gamble it. Only a handful of those people are taking loans to actually gamble and destroy their life. I fully agree that this is more of a personal matter than a cultural thing. While the Chinese are known to gamble a lot based on their history and culture, a lot of them would still think differently and avoid this path as much as possible.

There's nothing wrong if you do gamble even if you do it on constant basis as long you do make yourself that responsible and fully aware on things that might happen if you do lost control of your finances.

Doesnt matter on what race do you have because it would really be on the same situation as long you do have a good control or not then you would definitely experiencing basing on what you have done.

The most important thing is to make yourself have in good control towards it because if not then you do know on where you do end.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on July 31, 2022, 01:51:42 PM

Quote from: Oceat on July 31, 2022, 12:22:25 PM

But anyway, I wonder if Chinese people would consider this thing like taking a loan if they don't have a money so that they could just gamble to follow what's part of their culture or maybe it just depends on everyone's choices.

Will the Chinese do anything including borrowing money just to gamble as an activity of their cultural tradition? Obviously not, this is a stereotype, Chinese people are no different from other people in general, gambling is a personal matter.

Except Chinese people are a believer in Feng Shui and think that gambling is affected by how they arrange things around them which is not common to non-Chinese gamblers.

Quote from: rahmad2nd on July 31, 2022, 01:51:42 PM

You must be able to distinguish between personal gambling and gambling from a Chinese cultural perspective. In short, gambling in Chinese culture is a game of dexterity based on betting, while the common gambling is to try luck to get big money.

So what is the difference between dexterity-based gambling and common gambling? This is the first time I heard of dexterity gambling and I might need to look at it on the internet.

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I guess that gambling addiction has a lot to do with winning perspective. People who play passionately and experience high dopamine spikes are more prone to get addicted to gambling. I know a few chinese citizens but I have never talked to them about betting, so I can't tell if this is something cultural in the whole China, but I guess that when people bet just to have a good time, or for cultural reasons, addiction is less common.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on July 31, 2022, 01:51:42 PM

Quote from: Oceat on July 31, 2022, 12:22:25 PM

But anyway, I wonder if Chinese people would consider this thing like taking a loan if they don't have a money so that they could just gamble to follow what's part of their culture or maybe it just depends on everyone's choices.

Will the Chinese do anything including borrowing money just to gamble as an activity of their cultural tradition? Obviously not, this is a stereotype, Chinese people are no different from other people in general, gambling is a personal matter.

You must be able to distinguish between personal gambling and gambling from a Chinese cultural perspective. In short, gambling in Chinese culture is a game of dexterity based on betting, while the common gambling is to try luck to get big money.

A lot of Chinese would probably take the loan but not gamble it. Only a handful of those people are taking loans to actually gamble and destroy their life. I fully agree that this is more of a personal matter than a cultural thing. While the Chinese are known to gamble a lot based on their history and culture, a lot of them would still think differently and avoid this path as much as possible.

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Quote from: Oceat on July 31, 2022, 12:22:25 PM

But anyway, I wonder if Chinese people would consider this thing like taking a loan if they don't have a money so that they could just gamble to follow what's part of their culture or maybe it just depends on everyone's choices.

Will the Chinese do anything including borrowing money just to gamble as an activity of their cultural tradition? Obviously not, this is a stereotype, Chinese people are no different from other people in general, gambling is a personal matter.

You must be able to distinguish between personal gambling and gambling from a Chinese cultural perspective. In short, gambling in Chinese culture is a game of dexterity based on betting, while the common gambling is to try luck to get big money.

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