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Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
gambling advertisements that are widely spread in the form of photos or videos in my opinion are not wrong because this is a business that is indeed developed by its owner, and the name of the business will certainly be developed to become bigger by one of them making photos or videos then distributed online by utilizing social media and the internet, this is a natural thing. Given this, I actually think this still leads to pleasure, with casinos that provide many games to find pleasure but of course it is not free to be able to get pleasure in gambling and with that profit I think it should not be a priority, besides that players who are addicted are their own problem because the casino does not force anyone to gamble excessively.

With streamers who carry out their gambling activities via live streaming or video reenactments, in my opinion, it is also a natural thing because online gambling is currently popular everywhere, especially if gambling is allowed in their country, then it is not a problem. With small children or children who are still minors, they may be familiar with the internet and social media, but this is more directed at parental supervision in my opinion.
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I think it's both, they are promoting fun and fueling addiction, it depends on what kind of gamblers you are referring to. Most gamblers, as it is very well known, gamble for fun, and for them watching gambling streamers is a nice experience, as it is for me for example. Gambling addicts, on the other hand, might dive deeper into their addiction after watching a gambling streamer, but the thing is that they would dive deeper into it anyway, with gambling streamers or without them.
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But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?
From what you said that these influencers don't gamble, but have to involve themselves in gambling activities to the point of streaming it live,  shows that they are using fake accounts and they are doing this based on their own selfish interest. If gambling is easy the way they put it to people on social media, why are they using fake accounts instead of real accounts.

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Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
People are dumb to believe most things they see on social media, and some of their followers will definitely fall for them and start gambling believing that it is easy to make profit from gambling. Infact, these people are the ones deceiving the underage, lazy and greedy ones into gambling and fuel addiction.
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Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

It's an advertisement. Streamers are just doing their job for the money. And they absolutely don't care that minors can see it and get involved at such an early age in the world of excitement. So there is probably nothing surprising or outrageous here if the authorities allow you to watch such broadcasts without restrictions.
I think in a world full of excitement, people have become selfish and self centered that they care only about their personal interests and not about how their actions affect the next person. From the casinos who knows too well that such method promotion could pass the wrong message about gambling to the general public who barely knows a thing about gambling (including the minors) and then to the influencers, who being fully much aware that their contents would pass the wrong message to people that gambling is a bed of roses.  And then down to the government and the authorities who allow such an act to roam freely. It’s just so disheartening.
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Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

It's an advertisement. Streamers are just doing their job for the money. And they absolutely don't care that minors can see it and get involved at such an early age in the world of excitement. So there is probably nothing surprising or outrageous here if the authorities allow you to watch such broadcasts without restrictions.
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If I’m asked this question a hundred times, my answer would just be the same, which that they’re indirectly fueling addiction. They’re making the public and their followers believe and see the possibility of earning through gambling, thereby passing across the wrong message about gambling. I know we’ve said this more than a million times within the gambling discussion session and I’ll still say it again, Gambling is meant to be solely a fun activity and not some place people decide to go and plant the little money in their pocket with hopes of reaping a bountiful harvest. That’s nothing but a dilution and these celebrities who practice this act are helping to spread this misconception across those who have access to their contents (including minors) which is very bad.

If a celebrity wishes to gamble, no one is stopping them but doing it publicly is something that should be frowned upon, I know they are only indulging in those activities simply to create contents and attract people to their pages or channels in order to generate some revenue but fail to realize this could be detrimental to the viewers. 
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They can using fake accounts if gambling is prohibit in their country so they can still promote the gambling games. But they can also use any account and use fake balance to attract more audience to watch their video and visit the site. You need to asks to that streamers to know for more but they will not tells the truth because that can affect to their channel views.

Even if they say that they use a testnet account with fake balance, we don't know for sure. It is a job from the audience or followers to be wise when they watch the video and not affect to what the streamers do.
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No streamers will do a live stream if they know they are not getting paid by a casino. The only ones you will see that make a live stream fee are the gamers of
ML (Mobile legend) but not the gambling casino online.

Then one more thing, all the casino casino streamers online are not just for fun but they hyped the viewers to watch their live stream and encourage
them to also play gambling in the gambling casino they play at.
In this case I completely agree with you, because after all streamers know that gambling is something very risky and they don't want to use personal money to promote a site, I think gambling sites that really want to use streamers will of course pay a certain amount of money as a form of promotional payment, as well as providing the balance that the streamer uses to play,  In addition, sometimes the promoted site has set up the streamer account to be able to get winnings so that it creates an attraction for those who watch it to play on the site, currently the development of social and digital media is developing very rapidly so that the use of streamers is part of the casino marketing strategy in attracting gamblers.
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Their streamers promote the casino, they are required to have fun and cheer in their streams to attract more fans... If this is the case, it will certainly trigger addiction.

Actually, what I know is like that where streamers try to do something more passionate so that more people are interested... sometimes I also see streamer reruns on X that are so excited so that many audiences are interested.
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I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

That is very alarming to see how many streaming personalities are promoting gambling, especially when you consider most of their audience mightn't be mature enough to understand the risks involved. Whether they actually use genuine or fake accounts matters little; the thing is that gambling remains to be presented as exciting and fun while the real financial risks are not shown. If they target minor aged audiences then this is worst because these kids will really get easily convinced by their favorite celebrities to gamble without knowing the severity of this consequence.

The claim about the streamers' use of fake balances on the test accounts would not even surprise me, considering that some of them are using that as a way to make the whole gamble look more attractive and risk-free. It is just a reminder to be careful about what we see online and to know that everything, in most cases, is staged for entertainment or promotional purposes. What's more worrying is that it lacks such regulation, especially in places where gambling is limited or aggressively marketed. Perhaps paying more heed to how it impacts the youth viewers could facilitate any need for better guidelines.

The internet is a free place where people can post whatever they like on their platform, or their channels. It now boils down to the channel owner restricting the video, putting age restrictions from eighteen above to help the teenagers. Again, parents have a primary role to play in educating kids about gambling so they don't start developing certain gambling habits at a young age.

The channels that stream gambling live have their reasons - either they want attention, they want to grow their page, or they just want to show how they play-so it's not promoting gambling addiction. Somebody who watches with the intention of learning might just look, learn, and go away.

I don't think the channels go on and tell you to keep playing until you're in debt. Even if they use large sums of money to play in the live stream, that could be their budget. So because you saw a certain person play ten games in a row doesn't mean you should do the same or use the exact budget to play.

They didn't even predict their win, they just play, and sometimes they're lucky to win. So you it should in no way instigate addition. A gambler should be able to make decisions by themselves; they shouldn't be influenced by live streams.

Yes, the internet is a free space and people have the liberty to post what they want. That being said, even if there are age restrictions, it's hard to be fully protective of the other minors from exposure to content that could lead them into unhealthy habits such as gambling. Indeed, parents bear a great responsibility in guiding their children. However, reality dictates that not all parents watch their children closely enough when it comes to online matters.

While I concur with the argument that streaming would not necessarily encourage people to just keep on gambling mindlessly, the problem is that streams of gambling only make it look effortlessly exciting and fun, showing no real danger. Even if they don't tell you to "Keep playing until you're in debt," the frequent winning or the greatness of a lot of wagering makes viewers, especially the younger ones or those already hooked on risky behavior, feel that way subliminally. With it comes the risk of being addictive for some, and when they're gambling and winning big on streams, it makes people really think they can do the same, whereas the odds are against them. Of course, content creators should be more open to the risks involved in gambling and remind their viewers to gamble responsibly in a very genuine way, especially because of the influence on the audience-thenever intentional, always real.
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I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
It is possible that some streamers are using fake platform that look identical to the real casino and there is no way people will know, but some stupid people will claim that it is not possible, simply because casinos use game providers, I believe they don't just get it.

It is also possible that streamers are using the real casino when gambling online, but since streamers are always making money, either from their viewers or from YouTube service they won't mind losing money, I just don't want to believe that everything is as it is.

Everyone is free to believe what they want to believe in but I think differently, streamers aren't necessary in my own case, they are too deceiving and they will increase the bar of running after jackpots.
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The internet is a free place where people can post whatever they like on their platform, or their channels. It now boils down to the channel owner restricting the video, putting age restrictions from eighteen above to help the teenagers. Again, parents have a primary role to play in educating kids about gambling so they don't start developing certain gambling habits at a young age.

The channels that stream gambling live have their reasons - either they want attention, they want to grow their page, or they just want to show how they play-so it's not promoting gambling addiction. Somebody who watches with the intention of learning might just look, learn, and go away.

I don't think the channels go on and tell you to keep playing until you're in debt. Even if they use large sums of money to play in the live stream, that could be their budget. So because you saw a certain person play ten games in a row doesn't mean you should do the same or use the exact budget to play.

They didn't even predict their win, they just play, and sometimes they're lucky to win. So you it should in no way instigate addition. A gambler should be able to make decisions by themselves; they shouldn't be influenced by live streams.
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No streamers will do a live stream if they know they are not getting paid by a casino. The only ones you will see that make a live stream fee are the gamers of
ML (Mobile legend) but not the gambling casino online.

Then one more thing, all the casino casino streamers online are not just for fun but they hyped the viewers to watch their live stream and encourage
them to also play gambling in the gambling casino they play at.
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We have seen this topic and such questions many many times...

As a general rule, I would no trust anyone that has not clearly explained any potential conflict of interest.
For sure most of them are just advertising directly a service or their referral code...
The real problem arise when they are gambling with fake money (demo or bonus) and people watching are not aware of this...
They are showing a pointless promotion more similar to scam then any other promotion. Plus this Is not helpful at all. This can just lead people to play more and more Sad since "the lucky shot Is behind the corner..."
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Nobody is being forced to watch gambling streams. If somebody has an addiction that is a matter of self control and it should not be blamed on streamers. I believe Twitch has already taken some measures to prevent kids from accessing streams intended for mature audiences. You will not find gambling, hot tub, and ASMR streams being recommended so aggressively by their algorithm like it was in the past. Kick is a different story and gambling streams are prominently featured on their homepage. We might see them targeted by regulation eventually. Regulation isn’t an ideal solution because the internet is very large and you can’t entirely prevent kids from seeing bad things.
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At first I thought it was gaming streamers on social media platforms. Anyways, gambling streamers are actually not fueling or promoting addiction. Different gamblers have their different views and approach to different things. Some gamblers may despise watching videos of people live streaming their gambling skills online while some others may enjoy it.

I actually don't believe watching streamd like that would result in addiction because addiction is an habit and habits don't just pop up from nowhere, they actually develop over time. in fact some gamblers may even take it as an opportunity to understand or develop new tactics for different casino games as well.
I also agree with you, addiction is not something that is created only by watching streams, long term habit and internal attitude of the person creates addiction. Watching a stream of gambling games is highly unlikely to lead to direct addiction to that game.

There are many who enjoy and love watching this kind of steaming, while others prefer to avoid it because they hate it. And there are many people who see such streaming and they think that it is very easy to earn money from them and they go to try them once, and later they get addicted to those games.

So the key is to keep yourself under control while watching this kind of steaming and always maintain a sense of equilibrium and balance within yourself. We can also only enjoy streaming gambling without becoming addicted to them, so it's best not to blame steamers alone for such activities.
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The problem is often times the age of the average audience of those streamers. There was one case in Germany where the biggest streamer began to promote casinos, but it was known that a large part of his audience are teenagers and I think that is highly problematic. If then the streamer is winning all the time, I think it is not the best exposure teenagers can have. It fakes what the real world looks like and has significant influence on their first impressions. Because these streamers drive a Lamborghini in real life, boast with how much money they have and then stream gambling that the mix of these things can leave the younger audience with a wrong idea about money.
There are lots of wrong impressions on the social media, influencers, streamers are misleading ignorant people to think that gambling and crypto are easy ways to make money. Many teenagers will think that these streamers are making all their money from gambling, they'll want to emulate them and most will end up becoming addicts. Many poor people are looking for ways out of poverty, both the young and old, gambling adverts and streamers will make it to look like it's the short cut to riches. It's very important for people, especially young adults to understand about responsible gambling before coming into it because the rate of gambling addiction is unfortunately on the increase.
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My guess is that it is only a matter of time before that changes. In many countries TV programmes about gambling can only be shown in the early hours of the morning, because there are not supposed to be children there at that time. On the internet you can watch gambling streams 24/7. If we add to this the fact that they give a wrong idea of what is going on, because in one way or another they falsify it, I believe that strict regulations and bans on the sector are coming in the future.
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At first I thought it was gaming streamers on social media platforms. Anyways, gambling streamers are actually not fueling or promoting addiction. Different gamblers have their different views and approach to different things. Some gamblers may despise watching videos of people live streaming their gambling skills online while some others may enjoy it.

I actually don't believe watching streamd like that would result in addiction because addiction is an habit and habits don't just pop up from nowhere, they actually develop over time. in fact some gamblers may even take it as an opportunity to understand or develop new tactics for different casino games as well.
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Online casinos in the PH are targeting Youtubers, vloggers, content creators, and even those celebrities so the words about them spreads like a wildfire and it's really effective. One of the most popular here, where I literally seen everywhere around the social media, is an online casino that doesn't have a good reputation in this community.
It's clear as day light that the purpose and goal of these casinos are both fueling addiction and enticing new gamblers to spend more which eventually turns into addiction.
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