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If the warning was directed at minors, regardless of how much warning people say it doesn't really have any effect imo. They're called minors for a reason. They're tiny little brains aren't that developed to think about
how gambling can negatively affect them. Or at least, most of them don't understand that. Especially in the recent generations where afaik, the level of intelligence seem to have dropped somehow. Or maybe that's just what social media feeds me to think but anyway, regardless, they don't really understand the repercussions of gambling both their time and money away.


If it was your average adult pretty sure they have they're able to think for themselves, warning or not.
It is right beause they can not think wisely like adult people although many adult people can not do that  easily. Minors will only see the fun things from gambling without thinks about how they will get the money because they can ask the money from their parents.
They will continue playing gambling with that money and if they often to return to the casino, they will gets addicted to gambling easily. Once they get gambling addiction, that will be a big problem for them and that could ruins their life.
Many minors can not thinks about what impact that they will get so they will still gambling.

Just think about it, casino streaming is an explosive mixture. At the same time, gambling affects the gambler psychologically, and this is no small thing. This includes excitement and frustration and intermediate small joys when winning. But if the gambler streams and talks to himself and the audience, then this is another big factor in the load on his nervous system. And this may not be noticeable at first, but I am sure that after several such streams, such a gambler will be emotionally exhausted.
I agree that gambling affects the gambler's psychology so that can makes them continue gambling without thinks about the risk. They just see the fun and the joys playing gambling but when they lose their money, they becomes angry and could also ruins something around them.
That is the impact for the audiences who watch the streamers playing gambling so that is why they must have control over themselves. The streamers gives an entertainment to the audience so the audience must be wise to act.

Of course they can give such advice and direction to their viewers but the problem is that most of the streamers do not do that, the reason is clear as I said above that when a streamer explains the negative side of gambling and also advises gamblers to gamble with little money then it is the same as them minimizing the amount of bonus they will get from the casino for the agreement they have made, because of course the number of viewers who are interested will be less when they know that gambling can really have a bad impact on life.

Everyone always likes money and that is why streamers tend to do more tempting shows that indirectly brainwash the audience so that they can join without considering anything.
The streamer will not do that because that can impacts to their revenue because they will see many people will not follows the streamer to playing gambling. The streamers wants to get much bonuses from what they do so they will lure many people to follows them to gambling.
They have a target from gambling so they will make sure that many people will playing gambling from using their link. It is why we must be careful when watch the streamers playing gambling.
We must know that gambling can gives a bad impact on life if we lose control.
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That is why we must first know and understand about what and how the activity we are currently engaged in is, or what is meant before you decide to get involved in an activity, at least know first about the negative side of the activity.
On the other hand, talking about promotional shows carried out by streamers, I think it is very unlikely for them to tell the audience about the magnitude of the negative impacts that can be caused by gambling, especially when someone is trapped in a cycle of addiction, because if they tell the audience that, of course the number of viewers who will join will decrease and of course that means the commission they will get from the casino will not be big either.

And that is why most streamers tend to always show very tempting winning amounts, none other than the goal of getting more viewers interested and registering on the site they are promoting.
But of course apart from all that I quite agree with the idea of ​​your last paragraph that he should not make himself a victim of the negative impacts of gambling.
But the streamers can always warn their audience not to playing gambling excessively or use too much money but only use gambling as for fun. If they can do that, at least they invite their audience to be more carefully when playing gambling and responsible with what their audience will do. They can not follows what the streamers do because there is a differences of many things.

Maybe that can makes their audience realize that all things that the streamers serves to them will be for entertainment only so they don't have to playing gambling. If all people can treat gambling as a fun thing, no one will gets a problem from gambling.

Of course they can give such advice and direction to their viewers but the problem is that most of the streamers do not do that, the reason is clear as I said above that when a streamer explains the negative side of gambling and also advises gamblers to gamble with little money then it is the same as them minimizing the amount of bonus they will get from the casino for the agreement they have made, because of course the number of viewers who are interested will be less when they know that gambling can really have a bad impact on life.

Everyone always likes money and that is why streamers tend to do more tempting shows that indirectly brainwash the audience so that they can join without considering anything.
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They do use real accounts and real balance to play in those casinos. But it is the casino that pays them. They can place the bets like normally anyone would do and can win or lose the bet. But in the end they have to return the funds to the casino. So if they win big, they don't get to keep the profit. If they lose the bet, the casino gets back the money. So giving the streamers thousands of dollars doesn't affect the casino at all. It all goes back to the casino. And yes, the streamers act like they are promoting fun, but the truth is they ignite the greed inside the people.
I don't think this is applicable in all cases, as the contract agreement between the casino and streamers can be different. I saw a thread on this gambling board some time ago where the streamer was having issues with the casino for not honouring their own part of the agreement; either they refused to pay the streamer his or her winnings during the advertising process or some of the balance for the advice, which made the streamer call them out. I'm on mobile; if I switch to PC, I will search for the link and update it here.
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I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
They do use real accounts and real balance to play in those casinos. But it is the casino that pays them. They can place the bets like normally anyone would do and can win or lose the bet. But in the end they have to return the funds to the casino. So if they win big, they don't get to keep the profit. If they lose the bet, the casino gets back the money. So giving the streamers thousands of dollars doesn't affect the casino at all. It all goes back to the casino. And yes, the streamers act like they are promoting fun, but the truth is they ignite the greed inside the people.
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But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

There are very few streamers who still use the hype to entertain their audience and bring real, relevant content and also warn them about responsible gambling.

The vast majority of streamers are just looking for easy money without having to take the risk of betting in casinos with real money. If they are not being sponsored by some website, then they use fake accounts or unrealistic bets to deceive their audience.

What impresses me is that Google still continues to operate without any problem or restriction on this type of content. Since October 2020, Twitch has banned gambling broadcasts of any kind.

However, money always speaks louder, and YouTube also makes a lot of money by keeping this type of content on the air.

Anyway, I believe that this will not last for long, since many countries are already beginning to suffer changes in their economies due to people's uncontrolled gambling.

I believe that soon only casinos that operate responsibly will be able to maintain active advertising on the main content portals on the internet.
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You are right, most likely what will happen with many people watching it will only have a negative impact, because usually streamers show games where they managed to get big wins and of course most people who watch it will definitely be interested and want to try it, but unfortunately there is no guarantee that people who try will get the same results as the streamer.

There'll be no means possible for the viewer's performance to near the success rate of those streamers. While it's addictive to watch and enjoy seeing others win big, the impact it has on potential gamblers is dangerous to their finance, because of the assumption that winning big requires a bigger bet. And that's exactly what streamers portray for their followers to learn. Isn't that a treat for a beginner to start with?

However, with such a communicative control, streamers would have been the best tool to instigating responsible gambling on people, but the reverse is there, and it has a lot to teach about the aim of casinos using streamers to increase compulsive gambling.
That's right I agree, usually there are some streamers who provide patterns or strategies for viewers who try to gamble at the casino they promote, but that doesn't allow players to get what the streamer has gotten, besides that with the patterns or strategies given by the streamer I think that is also one of the tricks they do to attract viewers to try gambling at their casino, sometimes they give guarantees but when what happens is not according to the agreement they don't respond to anything.
I don't think beginners should see examples or watch streamers before gambling, because I don't think streamers have ever said they advise players to stay in good control such as not gambling excessively from the many streamers I've watched, none have ever said that, but what I often find is when they win they say "quickly register and get a big win like me".
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I'm not entirely sure that what they do by showing it is to make many people addicted, maybe it's more accurate that they are doing their job which is to make many people interested but to become addicted depends on our own mindset, moreover the casino will not be responsible for what will happen when players become addicted to gambling because their goal is profit, even though it is true that someone who is addicted to this brings profit I doubt that the goal is to make many people addicted. This sounds evil.
On the other hand, it is possible that casinos and streamers work together to attract many people to be interested in their casinos and visit to gamble, but I don't think the casinos themselves will admit that their goal is to make many people addicted, so the addiction factor is in the control of each individual.
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It's no doubt that these streamers fuel addiction due to the fact that they always make it seem like winning is very easy... checked out a streamers bets few months back and he was having constant wins, it was obvious that he either made use of a demo account or the casino probably made an arrangement with him just for the sake of promoting their site..This fuels the addiction of people and they might end up losing money in These games constantly... everyone has the right to advertise whatever they like it's your responsibility not to get enticed by those adverts.
Influencers fuel addiction because they don't educate gamblers regards gambling. Their work is to misinform the audience, since they don't lead people through the way of responsible gambling, neither teach the public how gambling works for real. They take advantage of their popularity and charisma to excite people towards gambling practice. The aspect which most annoys me is when influencers tell their public that gambling is a source of extra income.

This is a very sordid mean to promote gambling, because it directs the propaganda to people who can't afford losing money, as these are the people who are looking for extra income on the internet, while they should be aiming the propaganda to a public which have money to spend and lose gambling without further negative consequences over their personal finances.
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If the warning was directed at minors, regardless of how much warning people say it doesn't really have any effect imo. They're called minors for a reason. They're tiny little brains aren't that developed to think about
how gambling can negatively affect them. Or at least, most of them don't understand that. Especially in the recent generations where afaik, the level of intelligence seem to have dropped somehow. Or maybe that's just what social media feeds me to think but anyway, regardless, they don't really understand the repercussions of gambling both their time and money away.

If it was your average adult pretty sure they have they're able to think for themselves, warning or not.
Youtube, Facebook, Instagram etc didn't allow people to live stream gambling. Gambling streamers are mostly stream in Kick, how can minors know about Kick? it's not easy to find this site since it's not popular.

What you see the new generations is stupid in social medias is just tip of the iceberg, while most of them are really smart, creative and better than the previous generations. They're more talented, it just that the previous generations are jealous and don't want the new generations to take over their titles/positions.
One thing for sure is that, this is a computer age and at that, nothing that exists on the internet can be hidden from minors forever or even for a long time, and that is why, is better to treat minor's as special set of Fork's that need close attention and monitoring because without such monitoring, locating the bad aspects on the internet will just be a stone throw at their figure tips, so for that first of all as a parent's, you have to let the young ones know about the risk that is involved in all of this, and also making sure that you are physically involved in their activities and how they use the internet all the time, this is very important.

Instead of giving the full scale block, it is better to educate them and caution them through, that way you exposed them to the danger and also help them to protect themselves through it all, although this is not in all things and gambling shouldn't be among those things you should exposed kids to, thinking you are being proactive.
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I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?
You are not really telling us anything new, we know that influencers trying to get you to gamble at a specific casino are not gambling with their own money, so they either receive an amount they cannot withdraw from the casino or they are using play money, this is why trying to replicate their positive results is a waste of time, since if you are not risking your own money then you can play forever until you get a big win, which is something we cannot really do as we are actually using our own money to gamble.
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It's no doubt that these streamers fuel addiction due to the fact that they always make it seem like winning is very easy... checked out a streamers bets few months back and he was having constant wins, it was obvious that he either made use of a demo account or the casino probably made an arrangement with him just for the sake of promoting their site..This fuels the addiction of people and they might end up losing money in These games constantly... everyone has the right to advertise whatever they like it's your responsibility not to get enticed by those adverts.
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I think this might be the same about video game streamers and thus, at least there are those who actually follow or practice what the streamer does or they just enjoy it by watching it. But indeed, what the streamer does I think will have more negative impacts because after all, if they only play gambling with a demo balance then it will make the game easier to win. Unfortunately, many viewers end up following the way they bet but unfortunately, these viewers use real money so in reality more of them experience defeat. Thus, the negative impact is that it triggers addiction so that it will be bad for their social and financial lives.

You are right, I think players who doesn't know the pattern of streamers activity will just end up being misleaded because they are going to think that the accounts they see the streamers using are real account when it's not. I almost believed that plinko is a very sweet and easy to win game when I first saw it being advertised online by a guy that happens to be a streamer.
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Well, the casinos Business model is very broad , Obviously marketing for people who are quite Famous because they take advantage of them to advertise them , so in this order of ideas , Primarily the streamers get money, and as for feeding the Addiction , I don't think so , I Don't think the level of Evil of any person goes that far , I think what they are Looking for is more customers for the casinos, it is something normal, but they make it Clear that with very influential people , their Public will follow them wherever they go and doing what they do is valid.


Business as usual, there's nothing wrong in terms of money making I mean they just doing their part as how casino ask them to do, stream games and use referrals or use the site to attract people to visit, that's  a normal way to market your service or your product right? so with casino they will find influencial individuals as they have a broad venue to advertise, streamers and casino owners are for business and making money it's the audiences obligation to control their emotions and take good care of their finances if ever they find themselves getting involve with risky type of entertainment.
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The goal of streamers is to make money from what they do, and I'm sure when they play on a casino site they have also collaborated and have earned money. When they make money through the streaming they do, they also won't want to promote the casino for free.

They just do it without caring who watches, be it children or adults, what's important to them is that they have benefited from what they do. Casinos will also know what they will get when they work with streamers, so this is a form of promotion that they can do.

Undoubtedly. I see nothing wrong with a streamer getting a casino to sponsor them if they promote the casino as long as they are from a region where gambling is legal. All a streamer needs to do is write a note somewhere during the stream that gambling can be dangerous and anyone who gambles should understand the risks involved and gamble at their own risk, other than that, they aren't obligated to do anything and it's the responsibility of the viewers to understand and decide what is good and bad for them.

As for the children who might be watching such streams, I would blame the parents and elders for allowing them to do that, and streamers would usually have their restrictions set so that only people with account ages above 18 or something can watch them. So if kids are watching YouTube Kids, they aren't going to stumble upon such things in general.
Social platforms that can stream online will almost certainly reduce the chances of gambling-related billboards appearing because many tickets complain about this impact on society, the government also has enough evidence to require these platforms not to be allowed and more leniently, to attach age requirements and advice before viewing. So these fields usually don't have many famous streamers, only a few people who are hungry for advertising take this job but in general, there will always be a sweep to clean up these platforms.
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I think this might be the same about video game streamers and thus, at least there are those who actually follow or practice what the streamer does or they just enjoy it by watching it. But indeed, what the streamer does I think will have more negative impacts because after all, if they only play gambling with a demo balance then it will make the game easier to win. Unfortunately, many viewers end up following the way they bet but unfortunately, these viewers use real money so in reality more of them experience defeat. Thus, the negative impact is that it triggers addiction so that it will be bad for their social and financial lives.
You are right, most likely what will happen with many people watching it will only have a negative impact, because usually streamers show games where they managed to get big wins and of course most people who watch it will definitely be interested and want to try it, but unfortunately there is no guarantee that people who try will get the same results as the streamer.

There'll be no means possible for the viewer's performance to near the success rate of those streamers. While it's addictive to watch and enjoy seeing others win big, the impact it has on potential gamblers is dangerous to their finance, because of the assumption that winning big requires a bigger bet. And that's exactly what streamers portray for their followers to learn. Isn't that a treat for a beginner to start with?

However, with such a communicative control, streamers would have been the best tool to instigating responsible gambling on people, but the reverse is there, and it has a lot to teach about the aim of casinos using streamers to increase compulsive gambling.
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If the warning was directed at minors, regardless of how much warning people say it doesn't really have any effect imo. They're called minors for a reason. They're tiny little brains aren't that developed to think about
how gambling can negatively affect them. Or at least, most of them don't understand that. Especially in the recent generations where afaik, the level of intelligence seem to have dropped somehow. Or maybe that's just what social media feeds me to think but anyway, regardless, they don't really understand the repercussions of gambling both their time and money away.

If it was your average adult pretty sure they have they're able to think for themselves, warning or not.
Youtube, Facebook, Instagram etc didn't allow people to live stream gambling. Gambling streamers are mostly stream in Kick, how can minors know about Kick? it's not easy to find this site since it's not popular.

What you see the new generations is stupid in social medias is just tip of the iceberg, while most of them are really smart, creative and better than the previous generations. They're more talented, it just that the previous generations are jealous and don't want the new generations to take over their titles/positions.
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What's funny is that today I read an article about a guy who started out as a slot streamer and ended up as a problem gambler with incredible debts and an addiction. He was a young man from the capital, from a wealthy family, he wanted some fame and started streaming how he spins slots.
And I was shocked: in the photo there was a great guy, but during the streams he behaved like a moron who was let out of a cage. He addressed himself in the third person and reacted violently to every win.
Addiction divides personality, that's for sure.
I guess he doesn't really understand how the risk of gambling until he becomes addicted to gambling. If he realize that, he will not lets him deeper in gambling but always be careful when spending his money.
Besides addicted to gambling, he can lost his minds by talking alone so that should make the audience understand what is the danger of gambling.
Streamers should promote the casino but he must always take care of himself so he must know that gambling gives a big temptation to all. He can use gambling for fun and always reminds that he is work to make money by promoting the casino but not for playing gambling to make money.

Just think about it, casino streaming is an explosive mixture. At the same time, gambling affects the gambler psychologically, and this is no small thing. This includes excitement and frustration and intermediate small joys when winning. But if the gambler streams and talks to himself and the audience, then this is another big factor in the load on his nervous system. And this may not be noticeable at first, but I am sure that after several such streams, such a gambler will be emotionally exhausted.
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If the warning was directed at minors, regardless of how much warning people say it doesn't really have any effect imo. They're called minors for a reason. They're tiny little brains aren't that developed to think about
how gambling can negatively affect them. Or at least, most of them don't understand that. Especially in the recent generations where afaik, the level of intelligence seem to have dropped somehow. Or maybe that's just what social media feeds me to think but anyway, regardless, they don't really understand the repercussions of gambling both their time and money away.


If it was your average adult pretty sure they have they're able to think for themselves, warning or not.
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I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

The most important question is different. Why gambling streams are still allowed on big streaming platforms?
Some countries have very strict anti-gambling regulations, when it comes to offline gambling, and yet they don't do much to stop and regulate online gambling. This includes the promotion of online gambling via streaming platforms. The US gambling regulators could simply force platforms like Twitch, KIK and Youtube to ban gambling streamers. This hasn't been done yet, for some reason.
Anyway, to answer your question. Gambling streamers are promoting both fun AND are fueling gambling addiction. Gambling is fun(at least in the beginning), that's why most people get addicted. If gambling wasn't fun, nobody would ever get addicted.
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That is why we must first know and understand about what and how the activity we are currently engaged in is, or what is meant before you decide to get involved in an activity, at least know first about the negative side of the activity.
On the other hand, talking about promotional shows carried out by streamers, I think it is very unlikely for them to tell the audience about the magnitude of the negative impacts that can be caused by gambling, especially when someone is trapped in a cycle of addiction, because if they tell the audience that, of course the number of viewers who will join will decrease and of course that means the commission they will get from the casino will not be big either.

And that is why most streamers tend to always show very tempting winning amounts, none other than the goal of getting more viewers interested and registering on the site they are promoting.
But of course apart from all that I quite agree with the idea of ​​your last paragraph that he should not make himself a victim of the negative impacts of gambling.
But the streamers can always warn their audience not to playing gambling excessively or use too much money but only use gambling as for fun. If they can do that, at least they invite their audience to be more carefully when playing gambling and responsible with what their audience will do. They can not follows what the streamers do because there is a differences of many things.

Maybe that can makes their audience realize that all things that the streamers serves to them will be for entertainment only so they don't have to playing gambling. If all people can treat gambling as a fun thing, no one will gets a problem from gambling.
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