Topic: Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction? - page 18. (Read 4019 times)

It was always an object of huge curiosity, why people watch gambling streamers. I can understand those who watch video games walkthroughs on youtube, because they either dont have pc/console or money to buy that game, but are curious to find out what is game and story are about. We know that people envy when other achieve big wins. Because of that, people watch gambling streamers because they line to see how others lose money, while they dont? Or I dont understand, where is the point of watching how others manage to get rich by gambling.

This may not apply to all cases but for the big streaming personalities, they could actually be working with the casinos and getting paid as a promotional measure for the casino but the audience would not understand and would just follow and in situations where they loose the casinos get to make more profit so it could be true the streamers account could be test net accounts but now the cases of the minors I think there's usually ratings for some streams it's probably the minors who have refused staying off based  off the ratings.

Gambling streeming should be regulated if possible as a measure to keep the minors away from getting access to them this is what I suggest but I don't know how achievable it is but if it is I think it will help a whole lot to keeping minors away from it and not grooming addicts at a very early age.

Majority of streamers ars are been paid for the ad you see them doing, and that is why the casino gives them fake accounts to make people feel that gambling is easy to make profit by all those wins. However, streamers can call white, black because of the pay they have collected. They lie to earn a living and mislead people into big loss just to make money for themselves.

This is why, you should not invove yourself in gambling because you want a way out of poverty or because you are too lazy to work, otherwise, you will fall for these streamers. Gamble because you enjoy the fun, and accept the fate of your bet.

The only streamers who are often contacted by online gambling casinos are those who have large numbers of followers on Facebook and YouTube most of the time. That's why many influencers promote online casinos because the minimum per stream is 400$ per live stream, the commission is separate from the referral bonus.

And when there are millions of followers or subscribers, the price for each live stream is 1000$ or more, if you can stream 10 in a week, it's 10 000$ in just 1 week. just imagine that but many lives of people will be ruin because of them.

A casino, an exchange, a wallet, new MMO, dating site, soft drink, collector, tv show, list goes on and on, all advertise to try to get business for the product they are selling. Doesn't matter if you see their ad on your TV, in someone's signature space on a forum, on twitch, a billboard, kick, or youtube. An advertisement is an advertisement no matter where you see it.

As a society it is our job to teach our kids the dangers of engaging in some activities as well as the good things out there. Gambling, drugs, addiction, jobs, skydiving, flying, or whatever. You are constantly learning from the day you are born. Not everything is bad either, some can be both.

If a minor is watching a gambling stream and becomes addicted to gambling and starts stealing, who's fault is it? Is it the kids for finding the content? The parents for not monitoring their child's internet activities? The gambling site? Who's at fault? Lot's seem to want to blame the gambling site, but all they did was sell their product. If you are teaching your kids how to be responsible, there wouldn't be an issue IMO.

I don't feel like many want to take responsibility for their actions these days. Everybody just wants to do whatever and say fuck the consequences until they find themselves buried in debt or in jail.

About the testnet accounts or whatever, some streamers play on demo mode, some are given money to make a stream with. Everyone is different.  Regardless of whether they have higher RTP somehow or endless money, what they are selling is this is what could happen if you are gambling on xxxx site. They're not guaranteeing you will win, hell most of them tell you NOT to gamble.

I totally agree with you, streamers are just doing the job they are paid to do…. By following streamers, people create an illusion for themselves that it is easy to make a profit by gambling. There is so much bad content on the internet, people need to know how to tell the difference between what is just advertising and what is possible in real life.

No one forces anyone to gamble, we make the choice ourselves... and we ourselves are responsible for everything that happens. It's easy to point fingers and blame everyone else for your mistakes, what's hard is to take responsibility for your own actions. And that's what most addicts do.

I've seen many famous influencers in our country (PH) where they made a huge transition from streaming online games to now streaming playing casino games on their page. I find them disgusting at first, but after a while, I realized that they just did it because they're in need of the money, and I don't blame them if they do it because at the end of the day, we need money in order to survive.

As for these influencers using fake accounts, there's no proof that they're using it, and I believe it's only a theory. Maybe those who are saying that they're using a testnet accounts are those who are criticizing or have hate on that particular influencer. As for the audience though, it's not fine especially when you're a minor and you're watching your favorite influencer playing casino games, but on the other hand, these influencers always say that if you don't have spare money to gamble, don't gamble at all. If you can't control yourself when you're gambling, don't gamble at all. IMO, they're streaming casino games, but still they're giving warning to the viewers about the negative things that gambling can do to one's life.

At the end of the day, it's all up to us if we will gamble on the website they're promoting or not. We can watch them, but it's our decision if we will gamble or not.

It is indeed rare for a streamer to end their broadcast with a loss, even I myself from all the streamers who gamble have never seen them end up losing, all the streamers I watch always end up winning even though occasionally I see them almost end up losing but strangely luck always happens and makes them win, this strengthens my own thoughts that they do have a partnership with the casino with the aim of making many people interested in the casino they promote and this creates the opportunity for addiction.
But are we going to blame the streamer or the casino when the results are not in accordance with what happened to the streamer? it is possible but there is no point in doing so, when we experience the opposite happening to the streamer we have to blame ourselves why we are interested in it, realizing that it is just a trick to withdraw and knowing that winning in gambling is based on luck. 

And if they do, then what can you do? Blocked them or demanded from your kid/s not to follow them?


All of them do it for the money, plain and simple. Either to get a bigger paycheck or to have a free balance in the casino that promoting. Some of them don't even care to play but rather to get as many referrals as they can. They get their commission from them and that's it.

Most streamers account are just fake accounts that they must have gotten it from the casino they are promoting for the purpose of publicity of the casino and not because they are doing for fun. Although some streamers are for real and are sincerely doing it for fun and to also gain followers on their channels but I see so many of them that are fake account judging by how they do the streaming.

I think that as long as a streamer is completely upfront about their affiliations and any advantages they may have, then being a gambling streamer is perfectly acceptable. The tricky part, which is not necessarily the fault of the streamer, is the potential for a devious casino to rig their account and make it seem to masses of people that the win rate is much higher, if they can tweak their algorithm for this one account. There would be no way to detect this and just moving the win rate a few percentage points could give a very false impression of actual returns, they could also trigger off bonuses more frequently or give the end user jackpots that the average player is unlikely to win, if you are being completely cynical.

steamer will trigger addiction, because we can clearly see that they often win quite a lot of money, well and what I believe is that they use tester accounts, and show their followers that they do it with real money, so clearly they will trigger addiction because they say that we can also win like them
too dry

Streamers make a service popular with the masses. I believe it starts with them, and the goal of wanting and idolizing them is a problem. I think they want the paycheck for the promotion they are doing. What I don't like is the impact on the possible minors who idolize them or want to be like them. I hope that the platform controls it in some way.

They are definitely fueling an addiction with all their deals and filled balances daily, people get tempted to play watching them and hoping they will also win big as they do but thats not the reality of gambling.

Kinda weird and disappointed for these vloggers to start streaming gambling contents knowing full well that their contents are wholesome and family friendly contents. Most of them give disclaimer on their captions to do not copy what they're doing and it's only for fun but knowing they earn huge amount entice they're viewers to copy them instead. I also doubt that they're expert especially that most of their gambling streams are slots and roulettes.

Exactly, I watch those videos of them exposing themselves when someone from the comment section ask them to switch over on a different game so that they'll be on a live server, and they actually did it and exposed themselves. They even deleted that live stream session on their pages to cover their lies.
Some of them though are really playing on live servers and using a portion of their gambling promotions payment as bankroll and when they win, they used it for giveaways during their live.

Promoting casinos because they are really that being paid on doing so plus spreading up their links then it would really be a win-win situation for them. This is why these influencers are really that making some easy money not only just that because they are getting paid but also they are really that getting some ref bonuses on which this is really that making money. As for fueling addiction then this is something that will really be just that depending on a certain individual because there are those who are really that able to control themselves about dealing up with gambling and there are ones who do get easily hyped out
and ending up on having those kind of desperation on trying out to copy on what these influencers been doing.  This is why majority do really get that addicted because they've been that hyped
up with those huge wins.

Its a big surprise that one of the vlogger and streamers that you have been following for many years suddenly become experts in gambling and make it appear that gambling is fun and profitable, the truth is, its impossible even a gambler who's been playing for many years cannot become an expert overnight.

That's the truth; other vloggers have and are exposing them and I have seen one exposee of these vloggers turned gambling streamers, They are faking their winning their dashboard to make it realistic, but in reality they are fake, Vloggers will do everything, even to the point of deceiving their loyal followers for money

Parents should check who are the vloggers your children are following; they may be following these streamers who are promoting gambling.

Many of these streamers are only promoting casinos using their referral links to attracts gamblers to use the casino they are using so they can make similar profits too. I think gamblers are now getting understanding about gambling and why their are so many streamers different social media promoting casinos and attracting gamblers to use their referral links if the want to make money from gambling. Most of the winnings are never real and it is obvious that the accounts these streamers are using are demo accounts that are enabled by casino teams and fully funded making it looks like they are real and their followers can have similar results.

You are right, what makes us addicted is our own attitude towards the gambling activities we do. streamers only introduce the platform and they benefit from it. I even saw several local slot game streamers promoting that we can have fun with the game. Although there is an addition that there is a possibility that if we are lucky we can get the big multiplier offered. but whether it is proven or not, maybe only the account from the streamer has won a big multiplier several times. the reality is that we who play find it very difficult to get the big multiplier.

Of course, their job is to attract gamblers to play on the platform, but it’s not like they intend to get people addicted. It’s up to us since we control our actions. They say gambling is supposed to be for fun, and they’re just providing us with that chance. If we don’t understand the risks and rewards, then we’re likely to get hooked, but at the end of the day, the responsibility is on us, not on the casino or the streamer.