Gambling Streamers. Are they promoting fun or fueling addiction? - page 23.

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Quote from: mv1986 on October 21, 2024, 06:38:39 PM

The problem is often times the age of the average audience of those streamers. There was one case in Germany where the biggest streamer began to promote casinos, but it was known that a large part of his audience are teenagers and I think that is highly problematic. If then the streamer is winning all the time, I think it is not the best exposure teenagers can have. It fakes what the real world looks like and has significant influence on their first impressions. Because these streamers drive a Lamborghini in real life, boast with how much money they have and then stream gambling that the mix of these things can leave the younger audience with a wrong idea about money.

this is definitely the platform's fault

i do not care usually about streamers or celebrities endorsing something i am well aware that it can be faked and i try to lower my expectations even if i do end up trying whatever it is they are endorsing whoever they are but i also believe that the platform should have given a little more consideration to the audience of whoever they decided to sponsor

like will they get someone whose content is predominantly for kids and teenagers? ofc not they need people to relate to their ambassador and streamers who play for children will not relate to gambling plus why cater to kids when they can't even afford to play???

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What is certain is that when someone more often actively follows streamers and watches every live broadcast in their gambling session by showing various courage in taking risks and getting series of big wins can create condition where someone is influenced to try it.
This is kind of doctrine that involves feelings and also moods, I have seen many people talking about streamer who managed to win big and they talk about following the same way of playing and also the same game in order to get the same results too.
There will always be an impact whether it is in the majority of followers or small part who watch it.

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There is another purpose of those who do their own gambling to the public, and in my opinion those who do their gambling shown live have another purpose, which is to seek popularity with the many people who are currently interested in gambling, so some people take advantage of this to make a profit, with the benefits that can be obtained are from popularity and from commissions of new users who register on the site they promote by registering via the link they have provided.
I had thought that those who do their gambling live were not using real money because the amount of balance in their casino wallet was very large and also the bets they made were relatively large, but I didn't think about that because what I thought was that they had another purpose from the gambling, even though the gambling used real money but they had other purposes outside the gambling profits they were looking for.

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This isn't a case of either-or. Surely, they're promoting fun, but what they're doing is also fueling addiction at the same time. And if I may add, many of them are paid to do it directly or indirectly. So, especially those social media personalities, what's most important to them is that they're making money out of it. Many, perhaps most, streamers are after the money they could get from streaming.

As far as the issue regarding minors are concerned, it's going to be up to the platform. I'm afraid there isn't really a way to make sure minors cannot get access to gambling streams. But I'm sure there's always a report button or other ways for users to raise to the platform certain issues. Twitch, for example, is making huge steps following user feedbacks.

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This is a common symptom that is observed in all countries experiencing serious financial difficulties. For example, we can take Nigeria, where the gaming industry is growing. People hope to earn at least something this way. Although, of course, for most people this will only mean losing money. As for casino streamers, I think that they are honest. But most likely, most are disingenuous and deceive their subscribers and viewers. They play from a test account that the casino itself provides them. They do not play with their own money and, moreover, these are test funds. The casino has the ability to draw any amount on the screen. But as a rule, it is noticeable: is the streamer playing with his own money or with fake money.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on October 21, 2024, 06:31:29 PM

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

That it could be, because many gambling sites are currently trying another way to recruit new players to their platforms. By using fake accounts to representative their website is a way to attract people interested to join. The new users think that gambling sites is big flatform and have enough trust and money to pay as much as they want. This is classic way which is frequently used by new platform long time ago to get a new audience and user.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on October 21, 2024, 06:31:29 PM

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

This seems pretty obvious because they are obviously getting sponsored and the platform's number one aim is to get attention and make it seem like their platform would be the best to use out there. With personalities sponsoring things, you should not believe it so much because the paid celebrities are just saying or doing whatever they were paid to do. If they say it is fun and profitable, it does not mean that it will actually be fun and profitable.

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Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

We are all responsible of making our own decisions. Like I said, just because a celebrity is gambling or promoting gambling doesn't mean you should too. As per minors, it should be their parents' responsibility to make sure that they do not have access to such streams promoting gambling platforms or at least even if they do have an access to these streams, they are taught the consequences of gambling.

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It shouldn't be a teenager activity but its also true in the modern world they keep putting gambling into normal games as well in a stealth way. That's the bigger picture and greater danger then seeing a gambling stream imo.

When younger I used to do gambling odds in Mathematics classes as its taught with probability and later statistics all part of the course. I recommend if you want a child not to fall into an addiction then education is the best path not ignorance or over reliance on censorship especially. Kids will find out about gambling soon or later, ideally they are prepared with a decent brain and ability with Mathematics etc. alongside anything else that might help them with life.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on October 21, 2024, 06:31:29 PM

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

If this is true then the Casino platform has a hand in it. It could be a testnet given to the promoters and at the end of the day they will get paid but the casino. When it comes to possibility, it can be possible but why would a casino platform tend to do their promotion in that kind of way? If users find out it will cause a lot of distrust.

Quote from: GreatArkansas on October 21, 2024, 06:31:29 PM

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

It's not fine but what can you do about it? Most of the victims of this kind of fake promotion are probably the new folks in gambling. Since they do not have good experience and figures if something is fake or not they will easily fall for everything. These days I hardly believe any influences trying to promote some newly local casinos or any crypto.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on October 21, 2024, 06:31:29 PM

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

We discussed about this recently like 2 days ago. Have you not think of it that they win than lose? That alone can not make me believe streamers.

Quote from: GreatArkansas on October 21, 2024, 06:31:29 PM

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

YouTube should be blamed because any age below 18 should not be able to see such contents. I think that is how it should be but I am not surenif Google takes that seriously.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on October 21, 2024, 06:31:29 PM

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

In my estimation, these social media influencers are following the trend. They know that gambling streaming is getting a lot of attention and because they want to remain the center of attention or risk being forgotten, they have to do it even when it is obvious that they have no idea what they are doing or that everything is fake. It is easy to notice those professional streamers and the ones who are faking it.

Well, in my country, this is not catching on just yet. Maybe soon enough but I doubt. What most of those social media influencers are focused on in my country are sports betting. They promote their affiliate under every of their viral posts.

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Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

Parents must begin to take responsibility and control what their kids can and cannot watch on the internet. That is the only way to save the minors who are exposed to this.

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For some of this streamers they gamble on re accounts while some gambles in fane account just as in everything there are realistic people and fake people, from experience some don't take gambling outside their streaming time once they are done with the streaming they are so disciplined to a good extent that they do not put themselves into addiction while streaming, at the same time it pushes some to keep gambling and hence promote addiction just as you suspected.

Every thing has both positive and negative impacts or effects on us so if gambling is morally unacceptable the minors are being exposed to dangers if only they are allowed on social media at those young ages.

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The problem is often times the age of the average audience of those streamers. There was one case in Germany where the biggest streamer began to promote casinos, but it was known that a large part of his audience are teenagers and I think that is highly problematic. If then the streamer is winning all the time, I think it is not the best exposure teenagers can have. It fakes what the real world looks like and has significant influence on their first impressions. Because these streamers drive a Lamborghini in real life, boast with how much money they have and then stream gambling that the mix of these things can leave the younger audience with a wrong idea about money.

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Quote from: GreatArkansas on October 21, 2024, 06:31:29 PM

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Yes, I believe that can be true because I've personally seen those streamers spending a lot of money on bets and they even lose some money sometimes and make a lot at other times only to show that how good they're at gambling. It's better to avoid those streamers to be safe from losses.

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I just want to ask what you can say about most streamers right now who stream their activities on gambling like playing different kinds of gambling games like slot, baccarat, poker, etc. LIVE on their different social media platforms.

Here in the Philippines, a lot of big personalities in social media started to play gambling live using their platform, even if they were not that really into gambling before, most of you will see them start to play and for sure it's their promotion.

But a lot of people are saying that they are using fake accounts, like a testnet account with fake balance inside so they can use it to play and live it, how true is this?

Another thing I'm concerned about is their audience because for sure, most of their followers will see their stream and some of them are minor, is this also fine?

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