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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on October 26, 2024, 09:02:47 PM

I have never watched betting streaming, but it's very naive to think that these streams are always winning and that there is no manipulation, as slot machines are usually manipulable or at least very random.

Is just there to lure folks into gambling, not just that but to also give them the wrong mindset/approach towards gambling. That's why most come into gambling just to get rich pretty fast . Like is that easy , most folk like that usually endup losing it all because of that wrong mindset. So gambling shouldn't be counted as a means of earning rather as a means of entertainment. Because most time the casino is going to take back most of the win even your capital also .

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 27, 2024, 08:49:06 AM

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Actually, streamers always seem to succeed in getting big wins only when they do broadcasts and outside of that it really can't be ascertained, and I am also very sure that the chances of winning when they do broadcasts are not real, especially if we talk about the type of slot game which is a type of gambling that can really be manipulated by the dealer. On the other hand, we don't actually need to bother to find out whether the big wins produced by the streamers are real or not, because I think just being rational is enough to know whether the big wins produced by the streamers are real or not, or whether they can always win every time or not.

The curiosity from the audience makes them to find out if that is real or not by following to playing gambling in the casino. They just want to prove by themselves that they can get the things that the streamers get but they don't realize if that broadcasts may not real. Besides that, the streamers can use fake money to playing gambling without their audience knows because they want to lure the audience to playing gambling and spends their money in many gambling games. We must be wise if we see the streamers wins so much money and thinks that everything can happen especially in the internet. But we don't have to follow them to playing gambling and use too big money because we are different than them.

In the end, the point is to what I have said above that there is actually another way that can be done to find out whether what the streamers get is real or not, namely by being rational in seeing everything, because that way you don't need to spend or sacrifice some money to find out without having to register on the link they provide, and also because by thinking rationally I think you will understand that there will be no significant results with just a little effort because it will never seem reasonable.

On the other hand, it might be right to say that casinos and streamers are quite smart in terms of strategy, they know about the right way to brainwash people, such as by showing everything that is very tempting to tempt people who watch. Another thing is that now making money is not easy, you should think in that direction because it can also help lead you to the conclusion that what the streamers managed to get is unreasonable

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Quote from: Weawant on October 26, 2024, 06:57:04 PM

Some of this cases are actually possibly been sponsored by the casinos because in an ideal situation, it's almost impossible and very rare that anyone would win a jackpot three of four times in a row within 20mins, its clearly some forms of manipulation but probably since its a streamer handling it at that time, its feels real, sometimes it could be that account may not be real because the figures on the accounts sometimes are really not looking real so I I'm of the strong opinion that the casinos could be responsible at some points.

Well if it is indeed manipulation, it's worthwhile to spread the word. Apparently there's many people introduced to gambling this way and not much if any talk about it. Now gambling platforms own their own streaming platforms as well and promote streamers to do as they dictate there. So it's very hard to know the truth if there's zero supervision.

Maybe aside of blocking gambling sites, authorities should also take seriously the possibility of enacting some form of blocks on these streaming sites so their citizens can be more protected. I might be overthinking it but I don't believe there's another way to save some people from gambling other than this.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on October 27, 2024, 02:51:11 AM

Quote from: Forsyth Jones on October 26, 2024, 09:02:47 PM

I have never watched betting streaming, but it's very naive to think that these streams are always winning and that there is no manipulation, as slot machines are usually manipulable or at least very random.

Actually, streamers always seem to succeed in getting big wins only when they do broadcasts and outside of that it really can't be ascertained, and I am also very sure that the chances of winning when they do broadcasts are not real, especially if we talk about the type of slot game which is a type of gambling that can really be manipulated by the dealer. On the other hand, we don't actually need to bother to find out whether the big wins produced by the streamers are real or not, because I think just being rational is enough to know whether the big wins produced by the streamers are real or not, or whether they can always win every time or not.

The curiosity from the audience makes them to find out if that is real or not by following to playing gambling in the casino. They just want to prove by themselves that they can get the things that the streamers get but they don't realize if that broadcasts may not real. Besides that, the streamers can use fake money to playing gambling without their audience knows because they want to lure the audience to playing gambling and spends their money in many gambling games. We must be wise if we see the streamers wins so much money and thinks that everything can happen especially in the internet. But we don't have to follow them to playing gambling and use too big money because we are different than them.

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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on October 26, 2024, 09:02:47 PM

I have never watched betting streaming, but it's very naive to think that these streams are always winning and that there is no manipulation, as slot machines are usually manipulable or at least very random.

Actually, streamers always seem to succeed in getting big wins only when they do broadcasts and outside of that it really can't be ascertained, and I am also very sure that the chances of winning when they do broadcasts are not real, especially if we talk about the type of slot game which is a type of gambling that can really be manipulated by the dealer. On the other hand, we don't actually need to bother to find out whether the big wins produced by the streamers are real or not, because I think just being rational is enough to know whether the big wins produced by the streamers are real or not, or whether they can always win every time or not.

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I have never watched betting streaming, but it's very naive to think that these streams are always winning and that there is no manipulation, as slot machines are usually manipulable or at least very random.

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Quote from: Weawant on October 26, 2024, 06:57:04 PM

Some of this cases are actually possibly been sponsored by the casinos because in an ideal situation, it's almost impossible and very rare that anyone would win a jackpot three of four times in a row within 20mins, its clearly some forms of manipulation but probably since its a streamer handling it at that time, its feels real, sometimes it could be that account may not be real because the figures on the accounts sometimes are really not looking real so I I'm of the strong opinion that the casinos could be responsible at some points.

that's right, of course the streamer gets sponsored by the casino itself and there are benefits that the streamer can get, with the casino they will get the benefits by having more people visit their casino and gamble, this is a pretty good collaboration too throughout the streamers I watch they often always get wins even with big wins they can get it, this is a bit suspicious but maybe for people who are still thinking about their victory they will take it seriously.
Whatever the streamer or casino does, the goal is to get many people interested and gamble because that's where the casino can get the benefits.

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Quote from: Orpichukwu on October 26, 2024, 04:14:20 PM

Saying it's totally impossible to achieve those winnings sounds so harsh to me, as there are winnings that can still be achieved in a casino, but they can't just happen in every game they place, which is where the doubt comes in because it will be very stupid to believe that all those winnings are true; some are, but most of them are likely to be manipulated.

Indeed, there are certainly people who can win at gambling, whether by using small or large capital, also with small or large bets. However, if you compare the wins and losses that occur in someone who gambles, then losing is something that happens more often, even with me and including you, who in my opinion experience more losses than wins, the rarity of winning is common because basically the chances of winning for players are smaller than the chances of losing.

The number of streamers who can get big wins, I myself think that their wins are manipulated or have been arranged, because of the cooperation between the casino and the streamer which allows the goal to tempt many people to gamble, especially those who are still new to gambling who are likely to be interested.

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Some of this cases are actually possibly been sponsored by the casinos because in an ideal situation, it's almost impossible and very rare that anyone would win a jackpot three of four times in a row within 20mins, its clearly some forms of manipulation but probably since its a streamer handling it at that time, its feels real, sometimes it could be that account may not be real because the figures on the accounts sometimes are really not looking real so I I'm of the strong opinion that the casinos could be responsible at some points.

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When we deal with videos we can't take it as a relevent and representative sample of what a random customer can achieve. They are sponsored by casinos, so they won't upload the videos where they are losing money, in addition they don't play with their own money so they've an unlimited bankroll letting them to play until they get a crazy winning streak, so they just show their better streaks on Youtube actually. In addition, videos are often edited.

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Quote from: Su-asa on October 24, 2024, 11:58:53 AM

Streamers can promote anything to run their ads, this is their source of income. It's not a surprise that gambling streamers make use of demo accounts as a way of luring the viewers or getting Their attention. People need to realize that what they advertise are fake, it's totally impossible to achieve those wins in casino gambling on a regular basis, they make it seem so easy and people are falling for it everyday. Ask yourself if winning was so easy why would bet companies bother to start up these businesses, what they take from people on a daily basis is more than what people are winning by far.

Saying it's totally impossible to achieve those winnings sounds so harsh to me, as there are winnings that can still be achieved in a casino, but they can't just happen in every game they place, which is where the doubt comes in because it will be very stupid to believe that all those winnings are true; some are, but most of them are likely to be manipulated.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on October 25, 2024, 11:08:47 AM

Quote from: milewilda on October 22, 2024, 06:38:15 AM

Gambling should really be just that for fun and not something that should really be considered out to be main source of income or profits. It will really be just that depending
on how people will really realizing things.

That is the way it should be, but most people who enter a casino, especially those who are novices, are looking to get rich at once just by playing once, of course this is fueled by advertising, movies, things like that, that is why addictions occur, in the case of some who do not show this behavior, a player or a person before playing should have a high financial education so as not to spend so much money, otherwise the money that they put into the casino will not affect their life, I think that is the main thing and take the game as fun, never as an income or job.

Promotions carried out by casinos by giving users the hope of winning large amounts of winnings are one of the reasons why beginners are finally tempted and they start to think that it can really come true. In fact, it is not as it seems because gambling depends on luck and also a win that can be said to be big can probably be obtained in many attempts. Instead of that being the amount of winnings, it will only be a return on the losses we feel and even the amount of winnings cannot cover the amount of losses we have ever felt. However, those who are addicted find it difficult to think like this, because they will continue to pursue wins that they never actually get.

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Quote from: ultrloa on October 25, 2024, 06:15:45 AM

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Yes and that's why we see them playing as if they don't feel any burden or tension in themselves even though they bet with a very large amount, and I think from there we can already know a little that actually the gambling activities they do are not real in the sense of gambling not with real money as you might think. Streamers play with demo accounts where the balance in them is only in the form of numbers and not real money that can be withdrawn.

On the other hand, logically if it is a real account and if they can really generate a lot of wins then why do most of them always do the same thing as doing shows? I think from here alone of course this raises suspicions that make it look even more unrealistic.

Most of them use demo account that's why we don't see those streamers doubt of feel something bad happen when they lose their huge bets placed. And its pretty much obvious on schemes they do that's why I don't usually watch those kind of streamers especially if I see that there's huge balance on their account and they play common games which have demo account feature since we provably cannot get any entertaining factor with those people.

For sure if they use real money for sure that they would never place any random huge bets and they would be more careful placing it. For streamers its all about show and to hype people to try the casino they are promoting so we must be careful with them.

Of course, and I think that's the fact, or I mean it's a fact that streamers actually gamble with demo accounts that have been set up and provided by the casino to broadcast with the aim of making people interested. As you said that we don't see any tension, worry and hesitation from the streamers, even though for normal people betting with significant amounts should be full of tension.

Often I also find shows like that when I'm playing social media and of course we are the same friend in the sense that I'm not too interested in seeing it, although for some people it really looks tempting but for me it's very boring, I don't condemn gambling but I'm quite annoyed when I see people who try to trap the audience with something that looks tempting at first.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on October 24, 2024, 09:23:56 PM

I once thought that the streamers who got big wins were indeed something that had been previously planned between the streamer and the casino in the sense that there was cooperation with each other, with perhaps what could attract many people is when the balance owned by this streamer is about to run out but a miracle happens with the streamer who can get a big win, this can certainly attract many people who watch it, especially those who are blinded by winning in gambling will definitely visit the casino and will try their gambling to get the victory as shown in a video or obtained by the streamer.
Actually we must be able to see that winning in gambling can be said to be based on our luck alone, so no matter how hard we try but if it is not the time when luck is on our side then there will be no victory that can happen, and vice versa, for example, if we play carelessly but there is luck on our side then victory can happen.

You're a great point! These divine powers only seemed to appear when the streamer's balance was nearly complete. It makes it feel like the entire setup is being staged. For viewers who are drawn to the excitement of gambling jokes. Seeing a "surprise" win can have a big impact. It's almost as if the river was created to keep that hope alive. To encourage people to follow something like that.

But in the end, as you said Gambling is really fun. Victory is random. And no strategy is a guarantee. These rivers may seem fun and exciting. But it's important to remember that these rivers aren't really pretty. Gambling with this mindset helps us avoid unrealistic expectations. And it reminds us that winning or losing is largely out of our control. A better approach is to view gambling as fun. It is not a guaranteed path to greater victory.

Of course, players who see victory occur when the balance owned by the streamer is running low will be surprised and maybe some viewers who are still hoping for a big win in gambling will feel they have the same luck as the streamer with confidence that they can get a big win that happens to the streamer, but with the actual reality is that maybe it's just a strategy so players won't be able to get exactly what the streamer gets. We can gamble by balancing everything, including the risks too. We have to look at our financial situation by measuring where our ability to make bets is, for example our finances are only middle to lower, then we should gamble by allocating a not too large amount of money and also with ourselves who must be ready to lose which is a certainty in gambling. If it's like that, maybe there won't be any serious problems.

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Quote from: milewilda on October 22, 2024, 06:38:15 AM

Gambling should really be just that for fun and not something that should really be considered out to be main source of income or profits. It will really be just that depending
on how people will really realizing things.

That is the way it should be, but most people who enter a casino, especially those who are novices, are looking to get rich at once just by playing once, of course this is fueled by advertising, movies, things like that, that is why addictions occur, in the case of some who do not show this behavior, a player or a person before playing should have a high financial education so as not to spend so much money, otherwise the money that they put into the casino will not affect their life, I think that is the main thing and take the game as fun, never as an income or job.

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Quote from: Accardo on October 25, 2024, 07:48:14 AM

Streamers are actually not what they claim to be, the last time I had a chat with one on Instagram, he was straight up and plain with his answers on being a promoter than a streamer. They have easy connections with casinos and also reach out to agreements to boost the rate of customers.

Nothing is more challenging than the wins those influencers share on their screen. Few days ago, I met a woman that turned a gambler because her inlaw almost won $10k that's how crazily influential those wins could be to the brain. And casinos are using it for a greater advantage with the assistance of streamers.

As a viewer, I'd more entertained to see the streamers are losing their money instead of winning, because it's more real and the streamer will react like crazy, which make people getting entertained to watch them.

But, when we see the streamers are make money easily and didn't lose, many people will jealous or will try to gamble in the same casino to prove it.

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Quote from: adzino on October 24, 2024, 06:01:20 PM

Of course they are unrealistic. The gamblers/streamers aren't actually risking anything, so they aren't worried about losing anything. They get funds from the casino to play and then in the end, most likely they return the funds to the casino. They get paid one time for each stream. If you don't risk anything and you have free money to play with, you would be taking those crazy risks like those streamers too. I am sure you have tried playing those slots with free play and playmoney. You make crazy bets when playing those, don't you?

That's right, the more defeats you have, the wilder ,are to avenge those defeats with a win. After calculating, if you win, it won't be equal to the deposit you've made. Streaming on YouTube shouldn't be 100% trusted, especially if they get a jackpot too easily. That's impossible if it's not set by the casino.

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Quote from: mirakal on October 25, 2024, 08:03:18 AM

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I'd say it depends? Personally, It sticks to my mind like a persistent fly for the first few hours. Give me something to do/read/play, it's gone immediately the next lol. I'd just say people who are often persuaded by jealousy like this really need something else to occupy their time like anything. A hobby of sorts.

And to add, the only advantages that streamer exposure has had is honestly just for the casinos. Viewer side? The majority of the people in the world probably don't give a damn about it.

Quote from: EarnOnVictor on October 25, 2024, 04:02:58 AM

Hahaha...the short reply is for you not to trust anything you see online, NOTHING!

Anything can be generated regarding streaming, we are in the computer age. You might see a player doing his thing but he is just holding a piece of hardware that controls nothing, while the main thing is the software, and it's solely simulating what they want it to simulate. So your friends' experience is never out of common and if they visit it many times, they might have the same or similar experience.

At some point I wouldn't be surprised if casinos suddenly started using AI for more effective (fake) advertising. Like heck, they'd probably forego streamers if AI was able to do the job better (and most likely cheaper as well).

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Quote from: Accardo on October 25, 2024, 07:48:14 AM

Quote from: Dewi Aries on October 25, 2024, 05:35:17 AM

On the other hand, logically if it is a real account and if they can really generate a lot of wins then why do most of them always do the same thing as doing shows? I think from here alone of course this raises suspicions that make it look even more unrealistic.

Streamers are actually not what they claim to be, the last time I had a chat with one on Instagram, he was straight up and plain with his answers on being a promoter than a streamer. They have easy connections with casinos and also reach out to agreements to boost the rate of customers.

Nothing is more challenging than the wins those influencers share on their screen. Few days ago, I met a woman that turned a gambler because her inlaw almost won $10k that's how crazily influential those wins could be to the brain. And casinos are using it for a greater advantage with the assistance of streamers.

Money is seriously persuasive. Whenever we hear about a friend or family member hitting it big, it sticks in our minds. A lot of people end up gambling just because of what they see on social media. Some do get lucky and strike it rich, and casinos use these stories to draw in even more people. It’s often those desperate to make money who are most easily swayed, hoping they, too, might hit the jackpot and get wealthy.

We can't ignore the fact that, without influencers and streamers, many people would still be unaware of gambling. Sure, there’s some advantage to this exposure, but it’s not a good one, especially for young people who are introduced too early and older folks who become addicted.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on October 25, 2024, 05:35:17 AM

On the other hand, logically if it is a real account and if they can really generate a lot of wins then why do most of them always do the same thing as doing shows? I think from here alone of course this raises suspicions that make it look even more unrealistic.

Streamers are actually not what they claim to be, the last time I had a chat with one on Instagram, he was straight up and plain with his answers on being a promoter than a streamer. They have easy connections with casinos and also reach out to agreements to boost the rate of customers.

Nothing is more challenging than the wins those influencers share on their screen. Few days ago, I met a woman that turned a gambler because her inlaw almost won $10k that's how crazily influential those wins could be to the brain. And casinos are using it for a greater advantage with the assistance of streamers.

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