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Quote from: khiholangkang on November 01, 2024, 05:31:12 AM

I also often see Influencers or content creators gambling with unrealistic winnings, and when I see him play directly with the gambling he does it does seem unrealistic, like I take the case when I use all my money to buy free spins with a total of several levels, the biggest return starts from 2x-10x, but it is very rare for profit. I think there are more losses when making purchases, and the worst is that I can't even get anything from my purchases, I think there are more losses when making purchases, and at worst I can't even get anything from the purchases I make, but when I see that streamer make purchases several times with the same random bet levels as I do, he never has a loss, at worst he gets back what he has paid to buy free spins.

What you see from the success achieved by influencers is actually the result of manipulation that runs on the agreement between the casino and the content creator in order to make people easy to get interested and trapped in it in the long term, that is their goal and strategy to get a lot of profit in the long term from losers who dedicate themselves to getting a lot of money from gambling.

On the other hand, you have proven it yourself by trying to buy free spins and you have seen that in most of the trials the results were disappointing and did not match the success achieved by the streamers you see, on the other hand this is the reason why a rational mindset must be used when you find various new things that seem so easy to get.

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Quote from: alani123 on October 20, 2024, 02:06:57 PM

A friend talked to me the other day about how they were tempted to go play some slots after seeing a stream for the last couple of days.

I decided why not and told him to send me a link so we can watch together for a while. During the span of 20 minutes the streamer got at least 3 jackpots of over 100x.
We all know that when playing slots it's more likely than not that you end up burning your entire balance before you can win anything significant. Surely you could get a few wins here and there but not enough to remain in profit forever.

X100 multiplier is very easy to attain. I even manage to hit a back to back x1000 and x2000 multiplier with just few spins which is much harder compared to hitting x100 multiplier consecutively.

It’s just same amount as a breakeven on bonus buy which is very common. The only thing that fake on streamers video are their balance but the game itself is legit since they are using same slot games.

However there’s a speculation before that streamers using demo account which all games has boosted RTP.

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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on October 31, 2024, 06:48:58 PM

Quote from: delfastTions on October 31, 2024, 01:57:08 AM

However, I hope that some influencers have not completely lost their honor, conscience and dignity. And knowing that they participate in deep fake videos, they will think carefully whether they need it. But of course, there are other influencers who will sell their honor, conscience and mother for dollars. The only question for them is the price of this sale.
These are the guys, "happy players", who constantly win 100 times more often than any ordinary player, we constantly see in this advertising. However, in the long term, such influencers will still lose their subscribers faster than their more honest colleagues.

One thing is certain, every streamer before becoming famous needs to think when receiving a proposal like this and define what should be passed on to their followers by closing deals with the casino. Most people get carried away by money and don't care about the moral issue and whether they will harm or ruin the lives of some followers by leading them to addiction stimulated by the influencer's false earnings.

Did you say moral? In this 21st century? Especially when it is young and vibrant guys mostly involved in it? You will hardly see that. I'm sure that some of the gamers must have rejected enough offers from some casinos in the past but they will be so few. I can assure you that 99% of them would agree to a deceptive offer just for the casino to attract more customers and make more money.

That also means more money to the streamer, so it is persuasive for them just like most people would do. It's left to us, we should decide by learning how these things work to know the deceit and decide to shun it or still go ahead to play.

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I also often see Influencers or content creators gambling with unrealistic winnings, and when I see him play directly with the gambling he does it does seem unrealistic, like I take the case when I use all my money to buy free spins with a total of several levels, the biggest return starts from 2x-10x, but it is very rare for profit. I think there are more losses when making purchases, and the worst is that I can't even get anything from my purchases, I think there are more losses when making purchases, and at worst I can't even get anything from the purchases I make, but when I see that streamer make purchases several times with the same random bet levels as I do, he never has a loss, at worst he gets back what he has paid to buy free spins.

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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on October 30, 2024, 05:28:58 PM

Influencers here in my region are doing this a lot, they are usually Facebook pages about humor, they use sensual videos of women and then the next story is about a new platform that is paying, they play live and the results appear at the right time, but they are usually fake banks and balances.

Oh that will makes people tempting and visiting the sites from that Facebook page. Usually, what we see is like that and it needs a power to holds ourselves from skipping that from the wanting to try. But if that is a teenager, I think they can tempting and visiting the casino and playing gambling.

Quote from: $weetne$$ on October 31, 2024, 02:09:44 AM

Gamers and streamers are brainwashers, they do not do what they tell others to do. Alot of them fake everything that they do, they fake their streams, fake their wins and fake most of the things they do therefore they are not to be trusted. Their wins are so unrealistic because they are not real but faked or gotten through other means that they are not telling the truth. They faking of their wins main purpose is to attract more audience and they do that successfully as they grow their followers and make more money from the lies they sell. As for me I do not believe most things that I see online because I know how decieving people can be. No streamer can make me to do anything that I did not plan to do therefore they can not influence me.

Those people show what they do to people from their video but people don't realize about brainwashing them. They will not realize what the effect that they will get after watch the video which can make them have a high curiosity about the games. If people can avoid the temptation of watching the video, they will not lure from playing gambling because they know the risks after doing that. The streamers can show their income from gambling to people and makes people follow what they do but people can not get the same thing like the streamers because they are different. Yes, they don't have to believe of what streamers saying and it is better to skip the content like that.

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Quote from: $weetne$$ on October 31, 2024, 02:09:44 AM

Gamers and streamers are brainwashers, they do not do what they tell others to do. Alot of them fake everything that they do, they fake their streams, fake their wins and fake most of the things they do therefore they are not to be trusted. Their wins are so unrealistic because they are not real but faked or gotten through other means that they are not telling the truth. They faking of their wins main purpose is to attract more audience and they do that successfully as they grow their followers and make more money from the lies they sell. As for me I do not believe most things that I see online because I know how decieving people can be. No streamer can make me to do anything that I did not plan to do therefore they can not influence me.

That may be true, but what they do is a strategy that is indeed intended to seek greater profit from the many people who are interested when they see what is shown, saying it is cunning makes sense but society itself should be able to realize that gambling is a business that is developed and what they do is a legitimate way even though it is by falsifying, the key is in ourselves, we should not be too serious in responding to what happens to the streamer.
It's good if you don't have an interest in what happens and is obtained by the streamer because this can make you financially secure, many people who are interested are those who are too serious about responding to what the streamer gets, even I think when they see this and are interested in doing the same thing they have high hopes even though most likely they will only experience disappointment, especially with them having high hopes it can make them quite disappointed.

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Quote from: delfastTions on October 31, 2024, 01:57:08 AM

However, I hope that some influencers have not completely lost their honor, conscience and dignity. And knowing that they participate in deep fake videos, they will think carefully whether they need it. But of course, there are other influencers who will sell their honor, conscience and mother for dollars. The only question for them is the price of this sale.
These are the guys, "happy players", who constantly win 100 times more often than any ordinary player, we constantly see in this advertising. However, in the long term, such influencers will still lose their subscribers faster than their more honest colleagues.

One thing is certain, every streamer before becoming famous needs to think when receiving a proposal like this and define what should be passed on to their followers by closing deals with the casino. Most people get carried away by money and don't care about the moral issue and whether they will harm or ruin the lives of some followers by leading them to addiction stimulated by the influencer's false earnings.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 29, 2024, 09:13:31 PM

Brainwash from them can be succeed to people if people can not realize that's what they do is just for attracting the audience to visiting the link on the streamer's page and register to the casino so they can start to deposit and playing many gambling games. It needs awareness and being rational as you said so we can be selective to act from what we see. We must responsible with what we will do and we don't have to rush to decide but thinks twice before we decide.

Gamers and streamers are brainwashers, they do not do what they tell others to do. Alot of them fake everything that they do, they fake their streams, fake their wins and fake most of the things they do therefore they are not to be trusted. Their wins are so unrealistic because they are not real but faked or gotten through other means that they are not telling the truth. They faking of their wins main purpose is to attract more audience and they do that successfully as they grow their followers and make more money from the lies they sell. As for me I do not believe most things that I see online because I know how decieving people can be. No streamer can make me to do anything that I did not plan to do therefore they can not influence me.

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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on October 30, 2024, 05:28:58 PM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 27, 2024, 08:49:06 AM

The curiosity from the audience makes them to find out if that is real or not by following to playing gambling in the casino. They just want to prove by themselves that they can get the things that the streamers get but they don't realize if that broadcasts may not real. Besides that, the streamers can use fake money to playing gambling without their audience knows because they want to lure the audience to playing gambling and spends their money in many gambling games. We must be wise if we see the streamers wins so much money and thinks that everything can happen especially in the internet. But we don't have to follow them to playing gambling and use too big money because we are different than them.

Influencers here in my region are doing this a lot, they are usually Facebook pages about humor, they use sensual videos of women and then the next story is about a new platform that is paying, they play live and the results appear at the right time, but they are usually fake banks and balances.

However, I hope that some influencers have not completely lost their honor, conscience and dignity. And knowing that they participate in deep fake videos, they will think carefully whether they need it. But of course, there are other influencers who will sell their honor, conscience and mother for dollars. The only question for them is the price of this sale.
These are the guys, "happy players", who constantly win 100 times more often than any ordinary player, we constantly see in this advertising. However, in the long term, such influencers will still lose their subscribers faster than their more honest colleagues.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 27, 2024, 08:49:06 AM

The curiosity from the audience makes them to find out if that is real or not by following to playing gambling in the casino. They just want to prove by themselves that they can get the things that the streamers get but they don't realize if that broadcasts may not real. Besides that, the streamers can use fake money to playing gambling without their audience knows because they want to lure the audience to playing gambling and spends their money in many gambling games. We must be wise if we see the streamers wins so much money and thinks that everything can happen especially in the internet. But we don't have to follow them to playing gambling and use too big money because we are different than them.

Influencers here in my region are doing this a lot, they are usually Facebook pages about humor, they use sensual videos of women and then the next story is about a new platform that is paying, they play live and the results appear at the right time, but they are usually fake banks and balances.

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Quote from: Hispo on October 29, 2024, 11:35:41 AM

Quote from: delfastTions on October 29, 2024, 02:48:32 AM

Yeah, these falsifications of real events and the creation of non-existent events will probably really flood the network completely. And immature minds: children, schoolchildren and students will not be able to imagine the real picture of the world after some time. And they will live in some fantasy virtual worlds. You are right, humanity needs to fight this somehow.
However, it is not entirely clear how to do this if AI is developing extremely quickly. In short, the plot of the blockbuster "The Matrix" is probably already somewhere close to the direction of civilization development. People will probably not be batteries yet. But they may well turn into a homogeneous mass of useless creatures that populated the Earth and at the same time seriously spoiled the ecology.

I would rather not continue to discussing about artificial intelligence in this context, as has little or nothing to do with the applications it could have on gambling and betting. This is a chat which would be better approached in politics and society board.
Though, if you talk about the matrix and the level of reality these alterations or deep fakes could have in the future, it would not be a surprise if some black hat group exploited such technology to influence of the results or even in the public sentiment about sport matches or political events. Unfortunately, elections in the West and the most vulnerable to manipulations and those elections are subjected to betting, so it would be possible for someone to make a lot of money by influencing on Elections, not only in the United States, but also smaller and less stable countries, in which international community may be not as interested to watch over, but bettors still have a stake on.

Yeah, I agree that we have seriously deviated from the topic of the thread.

But in general, we should all state that manipulation, often bordering on pure fraud, in gambling with the help of modern technologies (for example, augmented reality), can really reach such levels that an ordinary player will be sure that the game is fair. I can even imagine how with the help of deepfakes it will be possible to spin a virtual roulette and make it so that the results needed by the scammers fall out in such a way that no one would notice. Well, in the long term, of course.
Manipulation in local elections is also, of course, just a Klondike if bets are made on them. In general, it is worth stating that progress in the sophistication of falsifications is going quite successfully and IT technologies are now contributing to this very much. Actually, this is the main engine of such a spread of falsifications.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on October 28, 2024, 02:17:22 AM

In the end, the point is to what I have said above that there is actually another way that can be done to find out whether what the streamers get is real or not, namely by being rational in seeing everything, because that way you don't need to spend or sacrifice some money to find out without having to register on the link they provide, and also because by thinking rationally I think you will understand that there will be no significant results with just a little effort because it will never seem reasonable.

On the other hand, it might be right to say that casinos and streamers are quite smart in terms of strategy, they know about the right way to brainwash people, such as by showing everything that is very tempting to tempt people who watch. Another thing is that now making money is not easy, you should think in that direction because it can also help lead you to the conclusion that what the streamers managed to get is unreasonable

I agree with you said about being rational about what we watch from the streamer's videos because we can think if that is necessary to follow them or not so we can decide with right. We don't have to follow what they do if we think that is difficult for us and just watch the video without any intention. We can consider that their video is just entertainment and reality show without we want to do the same things as them.

Brainwash from them can be succeed to people if people can not realize that's what they do is just for attracting the audience to visiting the link on the streamer's page and register to the casino so they can start to deposit and playing many gambling games. It needs awareness and being rational as you said so we can be selective to act from what we see. We must responsible with what we will do and we don't have to rush to decide but thinks twice before we decide.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on October 29, 2024, 08:11:14 PM

Yes, it all has to do with the best option to do marketing, the one that sells the most is sometimes with advertisements that are completely false but that People with a weaker mind Believe , it is difficult to fight against that, newbies especially as you say , well it is one of the reasons why many enter, in itself the interest of a casino is to Attract people so that they can enter the casino , I Personally will always say that the best thing of all is to avoid things that sound very splendid and easy , because there it is a total lie and whatever it is will be done to take the money.

For beginners, of course, they are one of the targets because beginners are usually easily attracted by watching some videos of big wins that are said to be easy to get at the advertised casino, even though it is not known whether it is fake or real, but what is clear is that there are no big wins that are easy to get, I myself believe that there are big wins that can be obtained but this is very difficult to happen, and there is also no specific benchmark for getting it.

When we have a friend who is a beginner in gambling, there is nothing wrong with reminding them not to gamble excessively, if they are not ready to lose or get hurt.
And with me who actually understands this, I often ignore it, without being too interested, like seeing an ordinary advertisement even though a big win is displayed.

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Quote from: hyudien on October 26, 2024, 03:15:29 AM

Promotions carried out by casinos by giving users the hope of winning large amounts of winnings are one of the reasons why beginners are finally tempted and they start to think that it can really come true. In fact, it is not as it seems because gambling depends on luck and also a win that can be said to be big can probably be obtained in many attempts. Instead of that being the amount of winnings, it will only be a return on the losses we feel and even the amount of winnings cannot cover the amount of losses we have ever felt. However, those who are addicted find it difficult to think like this, because they will continue to pursue wins that they never actually get.

Yes, it all has to do with the best option to do marketing, the one that sells the most is sometimes with advertisements that are completely false but that People with a weaker mind Believe , it is difficult to fight against that, newbies especially as you say , well it is one of the reasons why many enter, in itself the interest of a casino is to Attract people so that they can enter the casino , I Personally will always say that the best thing of all is to avoid things that sound very splendid and easy , because there it is a total lie and whatever it is will be done to take the money.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on October 29, 2024, 04:58:45 PM

Quote from: alani123 on October 20, 2024, 02:06:57 PM

So this got me suspicious and I started digging. On online forums like this one many people have observed that streamers and those doing slot videos on YouTube have very unrealistic streaks.
Of course this raises suspicions but casinos keep doing these sponsored streams.

If you're an old timer in gambling, you will know in one look how unrealistic they are showing things on their videos considering its live, its edited, and many of these are done on trial stage where winning is possible, and most of time the money they are using is not from their pocket, its the newbies that got victimized by these deceptive streams.
You have to learn the facts about gambling and you'll know that these streamers are telling a lie about winning in casinos, there's no instant profit in casino.

Well most newbies are the ones that choose to deceived, now and days most folks are now too lazy to do their own research before jumping into anything especially when it relate to financial stuff.

Gambling ain't a bad thing but with the wrong approach it can literally lead to a bad outcomes , and most of these gambling streams are yjs ones given most newbies the mindset of such wrong approaches.

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Quote from: alani123 on October 20, 2024, 02:06:57 PM

So this got me suspicious and I started digging. On online forums like this one many people have observed that streamers and those doing slot videos on YouTube have very unrealistic streaks.
Of course this raises suspicions but casinos keep doing these sponsored streams.

If you're an old timer in gambling, you will know in one look how unrealistic they are showing things on their videos considering its live, its edited, and many of these are done on trial stage where winning is possible, and most of time the money they are using is not from their pocket, its the newbies that got victimized by these deceptive streams.
You have to learn the facts about gambling and you'll know that these streamers are telling a lie about winning in casinos, there's no instant profit in casino.

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Quote from: I_Anime on October 28, 2024, 05:25:16 AM

Quote from: Forsyth Jones on October 26, 2024, 09:02:47 PM

I have never watched betting streaming, but it's very naive to think that these streams are always winning and that there is no manipulation, as slot machines are usually manipulable or at least very random.

Is just there to lure folks into gambling, not just that but to also give them the wrong mindset/approach towards gambling. That's why most come into gambling just to get rich pretty fast . Like is that easy , most folk like that usually endup losing it all because of that wrong mindset. So gambling shouldn't be counted as a means of earning rather as a means of entertainment. Because most time the casino is going to take back most of the win even your capital also .

Thats why the people who do really usually get hooked up with these videos or streams are those noobs who doesnt really know gambling about and the risks imposed into it. They will really be directly believing that it could really be something that they could also do on the moment that they've seen someone is winning, specially into these streamers who do have that huge funds into their accounts and making out some huge bets in every roll and ending up on having those huge wins. We do know that human beings are naturally greedy and on the moment or time that you do see someone win big then you do get that boost up.

One of the main mistake of people is that they do become that delusional on the moment or time that they do really have those kind of wrong intents on what they are really that tending to do specially
with gambling on which it is really that very wrong that you will really be having this kind of approach on things. It will really be best that you should really know on how to control yourself on times like these.

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Quote from: delfastTions on October 29, 2024, 02:48:32 AM

Yeah, these falsifications of real events and the creation of non-existent events will probably really flood the network completely. And immature minds: children, schoolchildren and students will not be able to imagine the real picture of the world after some time. And they will live in some fantasy virtual worlds. You are right, humanity needs to fight this somehow.
However, it is not entirely clear how to do this if AI is developing extremely quickly. In short, the plot of the blockbuster "The Matrix" is probably already somewhere close to the direction of civilization development. People will probably not be batteries yet. But they may well turn into a homogeneous mass of useless creatures that populated the Earth and at the same time seriously spoiled the ecology.

I would rather not continue to discussing about artificial intelligence in this context, as has little or nothing to do with the applications it could have on gambling and betting. This is a chat which would be better approached in politics and society board.
Though, if you talk about the matrix and the level of reality these alterations or deep fakes could have in the future, it would not be a surprise if some black hat group exploited such technology to influence of the results or even in the public sentiment about sport matches or political events. Unfortunately, elections in the West and the most vulnerable to manipulations and those elections are subjected to betting, so it would be possible for someone to make a lot of money by influencing on Elections, not only in the United States, but also smaller and less stable countries, in which international community may be not as interested to watch over, but bettors still have a stake on.

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... It is definitely necessary to introduce stricter filters for falsehood and violence in pictures on the Internet. And not only for children.

I am not sure whether the solution to the problem would be to set in place something which could be considered to be some form of censorship, you know. I am in for free speech and the right for people to share whatever they want on the internet, as long as it is not illegal content. A rather preferable approach would be for schools and universities to include some classes on how to tell reality from fantasy in their formal programs, so children could grow up being more skeptical on whatever they see on the internet, being related to gambling, politics or whatever.
Artificial intelligence is getting so good at making false videos to the extent the other day I was looking at the Twitter account of someone who is a little bit of an homophobic person, and people in the replies were sharing an AI/deepfake video of him making out with another man, with the purpose of mocking him for being homophobic.
One could see the video was false because some mistakes made by the algorithm, but still could fool someone out there.

We are seeing very confusing and dangerous times to develop before our very own eyes.

Yeah, these falsifications of real events and the creation of non-existent events will probably really flood the network completely. And immature minds: children, schoolchildren and students will not be able to imagine the real picture of the world after some time. And they will live in some fantasy virtual worlds. You are right, humanity needs to fight this somehow.
However, it is not entirely clear how to do this if AI is developing extremely quickly. In short, the plot of the blockbuster "The Matrix" is probably already somewhere close to the direction of civilization development. People will probably not be batteries yet. But they may well turn into a homogeneous mass of useless creatures that populated the Earth and at the same time seriously spoiled the ecology.

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Quote from: alani123 on October 20, 2024, 02:06:57 PM

A friend talked to me the other day about how they were tempted to go play some slots after seeing a stream for the last couple of days.

I decided why not and told him to send me a link so we can watch together for a while. During the span of 20 minutes the streamer got at least 3 jackpots of over 100x.
We all know that when playing slots it's more likely than not that you end up burning your entire balance before you can win anything significant. Surely you could get a few wins here and there but not enough to remain in profit forever.

So this got me suspicious and I started digging. On online forums like this one many people have observed that streamers and those doing slot videos on YouTube have very unrealistic streaks.
Of course this raises suspicions but casinos keep doing these sponsored streams.

So I wonder what could possibly be going on here. Is it normal to see so may wins as the streamers get? And if you see this, doesn't it make you less likely to trust a casino hosting something seemingly so suspicious?

The incentive for a casino to rig a game when they have a huge streamer advertising for them is massive. I have noticed that too and what strikes me as odd is how these things work out so well when they are live. Technically, I think it would be no big deal for a casino to manipulate a game and have those who are streaming have a higher win rate. I doubt that they would have any of the streamers actually know about it as that would a huge risk. If for some reason a streamer would ever make that public, the casino would be in big trouble. But manipulating an account without the streamer knowing is probably possible. In 20 minutes having 3 jackpots of over 100x is quite suspicious. Sure, could be a lucky day, but I believe it happens too often at times.

Probably many people do it deliberately to show more winnings to the viewers and they also want to register using the link located under the stream. Viewers will probably think that they are no worse than this guy and even smarter in some things, someone will turn on their egoism and eventually switch to this casino to play.

I think that many people fall for the fact that because of their excessive confidence they consider themselves not stupid and too lucky. Also, the main idea is that new players think that they will lose very little, earn money and leave with a profit forever. But this is a mistake to think, because no one ever thinks about a plan in case of loss, and this is the first thing new players need to think about.

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