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Quote from: vs2014 on December 18, 2024, 05:07:55 AM

This is bound to happen because there are so many casino platforms out there today that everyone will want to promote them at lightning speed. So i don't believe in streaming casino games. Because streamers have huge amount of money in their balance and they are constantly betting. You will suddenly wonder why they are splashing so much money only on gambling. They are playing in the casino with huge amount of money even after losing repeatedly because the money is paid to them by the casino. But many believe it especially those who are more addicted to gambling and those who are new gamblers.

If we can think by logic, we will realize that the streamer may work for the casino so casino gives them capital to play but we don't know if that money is real or fake. We also not know when they withdraw that big money because they never tell to us. Those who believe that will follow the streamers suggestion to play on that casino from the link that available in their channel. They will not consider to research to find more information about the casino because they trust the streamers. That is why we must be wise to act when we see the videos like that and not tempting because of the big win from them.

They only show their wins to manipulate people into thinking the same thing can happen to them. These streamers/influencers will do whatever it takes to impress their sponsors in order to make more money. Well, we can call it wrong, but let us face the reality that some people choose to be practical just to survive in the current situation.

If we truly understand how gambling works, there is no need to believe everything these streamers are saying. They are just doing their job, so we should also do what feels right. We don't need to force ourselves into something we know is wrong because we are still the ones to suffer in the end.

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Quote from: vs2014 on December 18, 2024, 05:07:55 AM

This is bound to happen because there are so many casino platforms out there today that everyone will want to promote them at lightning speed. So i don't believe in streaming casino games. Because streamers have huge amount of money in their balance and they are constantly betting. You will suddenly wonder why they are splashing so much money only on gambling. They are playing in the casino with huge amount of money even after losing repeatedly because the money is paid to them by the casino. But many believe it especially those who are more addicted to gambling and those who are new gamblers.

If we can think by logic, we will realize that the streamer may work for the casino so casino gives them capital to play but we don't know if that money is real or fake. We also not know when they withdraw that big money because they never tell to us. Those who believe that will follow the streamers suggestion to play on that casino from the link that available in their channel. They will not consider to research to find more information about the casino because they trust the streamers. That is why we must be wise to act when we see the videos like that and not tempting because of the big win from them.

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Quote from: alani123 on October 20, 2024, 02:06:57 PM

A friend talked to me the other day about how they were tempted to go play some slots after seeing a stream for the last couple of days.

I decided why not and told him to send me a link so we can watch together for a while. During the span of 20 minutes the streamer got at least 3 jackpots of over 100x.
We all know that when playing slots it's more likely than not that you end up burning your entire balance before you can win anything significant. Surely you could get a few wins here and there but not enough to remain in profit forever.

So this got me suspicious and I started digging. On online forums like this one many people have observed that streamers and those doing slot videos on YouTube have very unrealistic streaks.
Of course this raises suspicions but casinos keep doing these sponsored streams.

So I wonder what could possibly be going on here. Is it normal to see so may wins as the streamers get? And if you see this, doesn't it make you less likely to trust a casino hosting something seemingly so suspicious?

OK, apply some critical thinking here. What is the incentive of the people involved?

A casino wants to get money by selling their gambling.

A youtuber wants to get money by showing ads.

You come along, watch a youtube video about the casino. What's your incentive?, want to get money gambling, as suggested in the ad.

Casino pays youtuber, youtuber creates video for you, you pay the casino. Circle is complete.

It's the same with, say, an alcohol ad. You see people smiling and having a great time with beers. You buy the beer. Maybe you don't have a great time. Maybe you do. But that doesn't matter anymore, the ad creator and the beer maker both got their money already.

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Quote from: vs2014 on December 18, 2024, 05:07:55 AM

This is bound to happen because there are so many casino platforms out there today that everyone will want to promote them at lightning speed. So i don't believe in streaming casino games. Because streamers have huge amount of money in their balance and they are constantly betting. You will suddenly wonder why they are splashing so much money only on gambling. They are playing in the casino with huge amount of money even after losing repeatedly because the money is paid to them by the casino. But many believe it especially those who are more addicted to gambling and those who are new gamblers.

It is likely that the scheme with payment of all expenses of the streamer for the game, which he shows to some fairly mass audience completely at the expense of the casino itself is practiced and may even be generally always. This is understandable. In this way, the casino itself can get an influx of new users due to such streams and the streamer himself can earn money in different ways. This can be some kind of fee and there can also be real money won during the stream or some percentage of the money won. Ultimately, we must all clearly understand that such streams are a carefully played out performance in front of us with a happy outcome. And accordingly, after watching such a performance, never try to repeat what this streamer did. Because for us, in any case, this is a game and not a performance.

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This is bound to happen because there are so many casino platforms out there today that everyone will want to promote them at lightning speed. So i don't believe in streaming casino games. Because streamers have huge amount of money in their balance and they are constantly betting. You will suddenly wonder why they are splashing so much money only on gambling. They are playing in the casino with huge amount of money even after losing repeatedly because the money is paid to them by the casino. But many believe it especially those who are more addicted to gambling and those who are new gamblers.

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Quote from: bubilas on December 17, 2024, 07:41:35 AM

Quote from: delfastTions on December 17, 2024, 05:18:28 AM

I wonder if it is possible now, during a live video broadcast (in real time!) of some competitions, to launch an alternative to the main, real course of events, a parallel stream, or one could say a video content stream with a completely different course of events, using modern means of creating deepfakes. Well, naturally, this will be a powerful deepfake. I think that if this is not yet practiced, then probably options for such streams are already being developed.
And naturally, as everything is done now, this happens with the involvement of AI.
I wonder if humanity will reach such falsifications.

I think it is quite feasible, but why? I think it is much simpler, and if desired, an unscrupulous casino simply changes the algorithm for calculating probabilities for a given gambler by pressing a button. Astronomical amounts of money are paid for the development of gambling software, because it must be safe and reliable and easily configurable by the main user. I think such a high level is maintained only when developing banking software. Well, in general, for big money, the software must be fully controlled by the main user - the casino owners.

Yeah. For one specific player, of course, the casino probably has a special button to adjust the probability of winning. It is clear that for a very lucky player, this is most likely what they practice. Sometimes, most likely, they interrupt the lucky streak of an extremely lucky player.
But that is not what I am talking about. I am talking about the fact that a fake broadcast in real time can be used for a huge mass of people and players at once. And what will happen as a result. Time cannot be turned back and it will be possible to figure it out exclusively based on the recordings of the competitions. And the most interesting thing is that if the fake is done carefully, then it will be almost impossible to prove how the game actually took place. Perhaps now you can still focus on the recordings of reality that fans make on mobile phone cameras at physical competitions. But this, too, will probably soon be possible to somehow massively falsify. It is not for nothing that AI is constantly evolving.

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It is so unrealistic, but there are still some people who falls for it.
Some might consider it safe since the people that promotes it are well known, this doesn't just apply on casino but also in crypto investment.

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Quote from: Hispo on December 16, 2024, 12:50:31 PM

Quote from: bubilas on December 15, 2024, 11:46:26 PM

I think that most casino promoters, when choosing a streamer, look at the number of his subscribers. And if this online casino apparently has attracted a lot of people and gamblers are interested in watching him, then the casino hires him. Because it hardly makes sense to hire a completely random guy, because he may not be attractive to gamblers and no one will watch him. As far as I have seen, online casino game streamers often seem to grimace and make a fool of themselves, so often such streams border on trash streaming.

They only do not seek for streamers who are already popular and have big numbers of subscribers or a huge audience to advertise their casino to, I believe those who work for the casino also peek on streamers who have relatively small viewers but their growth rate is very high, so it could get cheaper for the casino to hire them as promoters and at the same time reaching a huge audience in the future. In contrast, hiring an already popular streamer to promote a casino could be very expensive and some people would stop watching at the content of the streamer because they would consider the new sponsorship as a immoral. There are people who exclusively like content which is not sponsored by sketchy VPNs services and also casinos, because their own personas and family experiences.
Wherever the case, casinos have their own recruitment department for those guys streaming themselves, so I assume it is a process which is more complex than simply picking up the one who has the most people watching, there must be more strategy being all of it.

Good point you have and I think it is true that some casinos also look for streamers with low to medium number of subscribers in order to minimize marketing budget, but once the streamers getting bigger then the price will also increased

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The competition among casinos to get the most popular streamers will also become tougher because it will be like an auction IMO, which casino that can offer better benefits to the streamer is the one will get the deal with the streamers.
This is why casinos with smaller budget will prefer to find less popular streamers but with good potential than competiting with other bigger casinos which has much more funds to be offered.
Because of this reason, not all gambling videos and streams are all unrealistic because I have seen some videos and streams with smaller bets and looks more realistic.

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Quote from: delfastTions on December 17, 2024, 05:18:28 AM

I wonder if it is possible now, during a live video broadcast (in real time!) of some competitions, to launch an alternative to the main, real course of events, a parallel stream, or one could say a video content stream with a completely different course of events, using modern means of creating deepfakes. Well, naturally, this will be a powerful deepfake. I think that if this is not yet practiced, then probably options for such streams are already being developed.
And naturally, as everything is done now, this happens with the involvement of AI.
I wonder if humanity will reach such falsifications.

I think it is quite feasible, but why? I think it is much simpler, and if desired, an unscrupulous casino simply changes the algorithm for calculating probabilities for a given gambler by pressing a button. Astronomical amounts of money are paid for the development of gambling software, because it must be safe and reliable and easily configurable by the main user. I think such a high level is maintained only when developing banking software. Well, in general, for big money, the software must be fully controlled by the main user - the casino owners.

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Quote from: Awaklara on December 16, 2024, 01:36:50 PM

Quote from: bubilas on December 15, 2024, 11:46:26 PM

Quote from: mirakal on December 15, 2024, 07:24:36 AM

But here is the thing, these influencers are so good at attracting people that even though most of us know it is fake, many still fall for it. And the sad thing is that people end up blaming the casino for their losses.
Honestly, I am worried for those who believe and follow these influencers in what they say because they are just being used as tools to make money.

I think that most casino promoters, when choosing a streamer, look at the number of his subscribers. And if this online casino apparently has attracted a lot of people and gamblers are interested in watching him, then the casino hires him. Because it hardly makes sense to hire a completely random guy, because he may not be attractive to gamblers and no one will watch him. As far as I have seen, online casino game streamers often seem to grimace and make a fool of themselves, so often such streams border on trash streaming.

however, casinos that try to work with streamers certainly take into account the popularity of the streamer. each streamer has their own characteristics to make followers happy. the more followers and viewers, the more confident the casino will be that its goal of working with streamers will bring results.

now gambling site advertisements are not only working with streamers. but short video content creators on social media are also a place for online gambling sites to promote.

I guess that is the second thing they look at with those streamers but for sure the first one they are considering the popularity of those streamers and also how many views he can get per stream he made since it will maximize their exposure if they will tied up with those famous personalities.

Gambling advertisement is everywhere now since they can easily spread by help of those famous people and other marketing efforts they done on internet. That's why people should be more vigilant on everything what they see online since not everything is true, especially those result shown by streamers they are following.

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I wonder if it is possible now, during a live video broadcast (in real time!) of some competitions, to launch an alternative to the main, real course of events, a parallel stream, or one could say a video content stream with a completely different course of events, using modern means of creating deepfakes. Well, naturally, this will be a powerful deepfake. I think that if this is not yet practiced, then probably options for such streams are already being developed.
And naturally, as everything is done now, this happens with the involvement of AI.
I wonder if humanity will reach such falsifications.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on December 15, 2024, 06:57:37 PM

Most videos these days are created for some profitable reasons. Hence, they will show some winnings that an audience may be tempted to try it out. With the tech these days, they can edit it fast and deceive their audience for what they are showing to the public. So if you are one of those spectators, try focusing on how they change their screen and you will see how they can possibly cheat the audience regarding the results.

Because in the end, regardless of the video that is used as content or in the end when some people or influencers do live streaming, the goal is still the same where they try to attract several new users to be on a site that they are offering, with several wins, especially big wins, of course, of the many who watch the video content created or their streamer viewers, there must be at least a few people who will try to join or register on the site they are promoting.

This is a natural thing actually because regardless of the game when deceiving the audience or whatever it is the most important thing in this case they can attract as many new visitors as possible because apart from streaming or creating big winning content, in the end the ultimate goal is to get new users to be on their site voluntarily without any coercion considering it is their job. The more who join of course they will also get a bigger bonus for the pay that will be owned later (for streamers) because there is definitely a referral pattern that they will insert in facilitating this under the pretext of bonuses that will be there or bigger.

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Quote from: bubilas on December 15, 2024, 11:46:26 PM

Quote from: mirakal on December 15, 2024, 07:24:36 AM

But here is the thing, these influencers are so good at attracting people that even though most of us know it is fake, many still fall for it. And the sad thing is that people end up blaming the casino for their losses.
Honestly, I am worried for those who believe and follow these influencers in what they say because they are just being used as tools to make money.

I think that most casino promoters, when choosing a streamer, look at the number of his subscribers. And if this online casino apparently has attracted a lot of people and gamblers are interested in watching him, then the casino hires him. Because it hardly makes sense to hire a completely random guy, because he may not be attractive to gamblers and no one will watch him. As far as I have seen, online casino game streamers often seem to grimace and make a fool of themselves, so often such streams border on trash streaming.

however, casinos that try to work with streamers certainly take into account the popularity of the streamer. each streamer has their own characteristics to make followers happy. the more followers and viewers, the more confident the casino will be that its goal of working with streamers will bring results.

now gambling site advertisements are not only working with streamers. but short video content creators on social media are also a place for online gambling sites to promote.

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Quote from: bubilas on December 15, 2024, 11:46:26 PM

I think that most casino promoters, when choosing a streamer, look at the number of his subscribers. And if this online casino apparently has attracted a lot of people and gamblers are interested in watching him, then the casino hires him. Because it hardly makes sense to hire a completely random guy, because he may not be attractive to gamblers and no one will watch him. As far as I have seen, online casino game streamers often seem to grimace and make a fool of themselves, so often such streams border on trash streaming.

They only do not seek for streamers who are already popular and have big numbers of subscribers or a huge audience to advertise their casino to, I believe those who work for the casino also peek on streamers who have relatively small viewers but their growth rate is very high, so it could get cheaper for the casino to hire them as promoters and at the same time reaching a huge audience in the future. In contrast, hiring an already popular streamer to promote a casino could be very expensive and some people would stop watching at the content of the streamer because they would consider the new sponsorship as a immoral. There are people who exclusively like content which is not sponsored by sketchy VPNs services and also casinos, because their own personas and family experiences.
Wherever the case, casinos have their own recruitment department for those guys streaming themselves, so I assume it is a process which is more complex than simply picking up the one who has the most people watching, there must be more strategy being all of it.

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Quote from: mirakal on December 15, 2024, 07:24:36 AM

But here is the thing, these influencers are so good at attracting people that even though most of us know it is fake, many still fall for it. And the sad thing is that people end up blaming the casino for their losses.
Honestly, I am worried for those who believe and follow these influencers in what they say because they are just being used as tools to make money.

I think that most casino promoters, when choosing a streamer, look at the number of his subscribers. And if this online casino apparently has attracted a lot of people and gamblers are interested in watching him, then the casino hires him. Because it hardly makes sense to hire a completely random guy, because he may not be attractive to gamblers and no one will watch him. As far as I have seen, online casino game streamers often seem to grimace and make a fool of themselves, so often such streams border on trash streaming.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on December 15, 2024, 06:57:37 PM

Quote from: shasan on December 15, 2024, 06:32:12 PM

Quote from: bettercrypto on December 15, 2024, 03:55:52 AM

It is not normal for a streamer to show a video of him playing a casino that you will see only wins in their content, which is actually just a recorded video or demo of what is being done in reality.
Because the winnings they show are unrealistic and they do it because that is how they can deceive their followers to entice them to deposit at the casino where the streamers themselves have a referral link. And all streamers do this kind of deception.

It can't be a coincidence. It is most probably a fake video at the time they will play just to win and there is no winning at any other time it can't happen. And if the account is a fresh account then how the streamer learn to play!

Most videos these days are created for some profitable reasons. Hence, they will show some winnings that an audience may be tempted to try it out. With the tech these days, they can edit it fast and deceive their audience for what they are showing to the public. So if you are one of those spectators, try focusing on how they change their screen and you will see how they can possibly cheat the audience regarding the results.

On a gambling business then it will be that understandable that they will really be making things as flashy and interesting as possible because t hey do know that they can make money out of those people who do get hooked up on the time that they are seeing some huge wins on which we cant be able to deny into this aspect. This is why as a gambler or viewer then you should be that careful on how to deal up with things on which on the moment that you do find yourself having some kind of urge or impulsiveness towards gambling then its better to stop. Dont let yourself that getting hooked up on the time that you will be having such issue on which at the time or moment that you do find yourself having that easily believing into those winnings then you do get addicted so easily.

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Quote from: shasan on December 15, 2024, 06:32:12 PM

Quote from: bettercrypto on December 15, 2024, 03:55:52 AM

It is not normal for a streamer to show a video of him playing a casino that you will see only wins in their content, which is actually just a recorded video or demo of what is being done in reality.
Because the winnings they show are unrealistic and they do it because that is how they can deceive their followers to entice them to deposit at the casino where the streamers themselves have a referral link. And all streamers do this kind of deception.

It can't be a coincidence. It is most probably a fake video at the time they will play just to win and there is no winning at any other time it can't happen. And if the account is a fresh account then how the streamer learn to play!

Most videos these days are created for some profitable reasons. Hence, they will show some winnings that an audience may be tempted to try it out. With the tech these days, they can edit it fast and deceive their audience for what they are showing to the public. So if you are one of those spectators, try focusing on how they change their screen and you will see how they can possibly cheat the audience regarding the results.

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Quote from: bettercrypto on December 15, 2024, 03:55:52 AM

It is not normal for a streamer to show a video of him playing a casino that you will see only wins in their content, which is actually just a recorded video or demo of what is being done in reality.

Because the winnings they show are unrealistic and they do it because that is how they can deceive their followers to entice them to deposit at the casino where the streamers themselves have a referral link. And all streamers do this kind of deception.

It can't be a coincidence. It is most probably a fake video at the time they will play just to win and there is no winning at any other time it can't happen. And if the account is a fresh account then how the streamer learn to play!

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Quote from: Beparanf on December 14, 2024, 11:38:06 AM

Quote from: JiiBs on December 14, 2024, 11:31:13 AM

Is that even possible?
Do the casinos actually offer the games or they have an agency that does?
I kind of read somewhere with a casino having to talk about the jurisdiction though within the coverage of the casino, it wasn’t the case with the game offerers. That’s to mean that, there is an agency at play maybe.

So how then could there be a link that would allow streamers unrealistic wins on a game that the casino aren’t offering themselves?
The likely option here is gambling with free money but even then, it’s still subject to a lot of probability.

AFAIK based on the local streamer testimonial/leak they are using demo account that has an increased RTP on all games. I’m not how this work technically but maybe they are using a copy of all the games in the casino and modify winning percentage tomake it appealing to watch to those streamers using the demo account.

Some streamers use casino money as balance that’s why they have huge bankroll and don’t feel any feel when betting because there’s no risk in reality for all the bets made.

That could be true, after all they will find ways to show people who watch it to be interested because it becomes an advantage for themselves, even the benefits can come from various angles such as those who start following their account, those who register with the reff code provided and the number of their impressions which if it is a large audience then it can bring profit.
In addition there are also those who say that they want to use gambling with fake money, not a few indeed I see there are people who do online gambling live with the amount of balance they have very much and the amount of bets they do is not a small amount, I myself think it is a casino balance that they promote as well as the winnings they get are not real because the goal is only to attract many people, even so maybe some are real too but I don't think there are many accounts that use real money.

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Quote from: Taskford on December 15, 2024, 06:12:59 AM

Not really normal if they always show up their gains since its impossible for anyone to hit passive gain with gambling and if they always portray good results and show recorded videos about their gains then provably there's something suspicious especially on those things they made.

That's why sometimes I always watch some streamers live and make sure that they are not using demo funds since with that we can provably see a more entertaining show with those streamers. Usually those streamers using demo accounts are not fun to watch since for sure that everything we could see on their stream is pure deception.

Watching them live is great, as all other videos could be edited and sent across their social media platforms like IG to deceive viewers. Although it would have been preferable if they were truly showing their losses to pass the message across for players to understand that influencers also lose money. With the perspective being created online with streamers earning jackpots puts the industry on the verge of raising up more addicts. And it won't be nice to build up a gambling ecosystem filled with problem gamers.

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