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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on October 26, 2024, 09:02:47 PM

I have never watched betting streaming, but it's very naive to think that these streams are always winning and that there is no manipulation, as slot machines are usually manipulable or at least very random.

You should try giving it a try sometimes to see how too good those winnings appear to be true and how yet they end up using that same streaming to lure gamblers to a particular casino that's being promoted.

What baffles me is the same thing, like how people can blindly believe all that's being displayed on a screen without giving it a second thought. winnings are possible but not as regular as they are being portrayed on YouTube.

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There are few streamers play on their own money and there are some streamers given them a dummy account or lets say a developer account that they can play and use during their live steams.

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So I wonder what could possibly be going on here. Is it normal to see so may wins as the streamers get? And if you see this, doesn't it make you less likely to trust a casino hosting something seemingly so suspicious?

Now if player you are watching you can see a large scale of amount in their wallet as always seems like it didn't reduce at all possible they are using a dev account, casually you can see them in their stream how they will react and of course there's some streamers debunks the players if this is real or fake. Reason why I choose only those player who really play with the casino with their own money, tons of streamers now just care with the referral link they have.

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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on October 31, 2024, 06:48:58 PM

One thing is certain, every streamer before becoming famous needs to think when receiving a proposal like this and define what should be passed on to their followers by closing deals with the casino. Most people get carried away by money and don't care about the moral issue and whether they will harm or ruin the lives of some followers by leading them to addiction stimulated by the influencer's false earnings.

Usually most of the streamers are actually there to make their money and so they may not really cares about what the other gamblers and their followers have got to do so I think it's better not to take them completely seriously sometimes and just look for what is really workable by you so you get the most of gambling if you are gambling, this streamers wants to make money and the casino aswell.

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Quote from: hahay on November 01, 2024, 01:50:13 PM

I don't know, from some of the information I got they sometimes only play with a demo account, or they have also worked together and there have been settings that have occurred so that they can get a big win. When they have a big win then of course there will be many enthusiasts to try it but unfortunately, those who imitate the bet really expect a big win and become rich. In fact, in gambling it is very difficult to win as expected or imagined, so when they get the reality that gambling is still not an easy way to make money. So yes, stay careful because we involve real money in betting, unlike a demo account that only bets using the coins that are available and it is not real money that makes you win easily in a demo account.

One thing am certain of is that most time they don't like to showcase their losses rather there winnings just to make folks think that can make it fast and big with gambling. And some even use demo accounts just like you said , the painful part is the wrong mindset they are planting in people minds.

Making some people to take gambling as a source of earning where you can easily lose everything just in the blink of an eye , but still I won't say it is bad , but the way you approach it matters alot , so we should be cautious with the way approach it .

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on November 02, 2024, 03:00:13 PM

Quote from: Oilacris on November 01, 2024, 01:43:58 PM

We cant be able to prove out those assumptions but we can really be able to tell about those probabilities on which this could really happen out in between influencers and with those
casinos that are really that trying out to make some marketing. They will really be that making out some tweaking about for a certain marketer to have that kind of good winning
chance on which it could really be bringing out that kind of hype into those people who would really be that trying out to watch these steams on which it cant really be denied
that it do really looks out interesting and could give out that kind of boost up whenever we do see these things to happen.

I'm sure you know now that many sites display their promotions in videos and they display easy wins, this will definitely be done by all casinos because of course currently quite efficient marketing is by making interesting videos to make many people believe and are sure to gamble at the casino with the same hope, namely wanting to get a big win, but in reality in all casinos, winning is not easy to get because even though they display videos that are easy to win, it doesn't mean the casino will be like that, because that's not their goal.

For people who really have high hopes for gambling or those who are beginners, they will most likely be easily interested when they see something like this, but for people who are experienced in gambling, I think they are not easily interested in something like this, maybe they are no longer interested.

Yes, they do really make things as attractive as it could be or as much as possible yet these situations or outcomes will really be sparking out someones interest or curiosity on the moment that they've seen that someone had been able to reach out this kind of state on where they do make out some money on just simply tapping those roll button. As for us who do have experience then we are already aware on how things works but on the moment that we are just starting up then we have passed into this kind of situation on where you've been really believing that it was really just that too easy to do so.

Streamers or marketers will really be that doing on what are the jobs that had been appointed to them is to play out some games like a madman on which they do have that big bankroll.
Each roll will be having that huge amount on which its normal that it do hit up some win then it will be posting or showing that huge win too on which its common sense.

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Quote from: Oilacris on November 01, 2024, 01:43:58 PM

We cant be able to prove out those assumptions but we can really be able to tell about those probabilities on which this could really happen out in between influencers and with those
casinos that are really that trying out to make some marketing. They will really be that making out some tweaking about for a certain marketer to have that kind of good winning
chance on which it could really be bringing out that kind of hype into those people who would really be that trying out to watch these steams on which it cant really be denied
that it do really looks out interesting and could give out that kind of boost up whenever we do see these things to happen.

I'm sure you know now that many sites display their promotions in videos and they display easy wins, this will definitely be done by all casinos because of course currently quite efficient marketing is by making interesting videos to make many people believe and are sure to gamble at the casino with the same hope, namely wanting to get a big win, but in reality in all casinos, winning is not easy to get because even though they display videos that are easy to win, it doesn't mean the casino will be like that, because that's not their goal.

For people who really have high hopes for gambling or those who are beginners, they will most likely be easily interested when they see something like this, but for people who are experienced in gambling, I think they are not easily interested in something like this, maybe they are no longer interested.

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The games are legit that I've seen and Ive watched some streams for hours and hours but I wouldn't be too naive about it and assume you can duplicate the results. The compensation for streaming is very good from what I've heard, sounds ridiculous but maybe a million a year possibly for an elite few.

I don't even know how that works out as they aren't on commission so far as I know or referrals like some people might have experience of. The actual games played are real and the same as being offered, I would say its illegal deception otherwise but the balances gambled probably aren't real or at least the debts accumulated would be no problem as the streamer would not have to pay in nor be able to take out a balance from any winnings.

Any of us can do the same actually, alot of places have a demo mode you can use to test a game and in trading Ive used demo mode alot also as its useful to get familiar. Overall I rate the streams as fair and useful to new players, just don't go dreaming its you winning or you can do just the same as the person streaming. We don't believe everything we watch on TV is reality so I don't see the controversy too much personally, its fairly clear and valid as advertising imo.

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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on October 31, 2024, 06:48:58 PM

Quote from: delfastTions on October 31, 2024, 01:57:08 AM

However, I hope that some influencers have not completely lost their honor, conscience and dignity. And knowing that they participate in deep fake videos, they will think carefully whether they need it. But of course, there are other influencers who will sell their honor, conscience and mother for dollars. The only question for them is the price of this sale.
These are the guys, "happy players", who constantly win 100 times more often than any ordinary player, we constantly see in this advertising. However, in the long term, such influencers will still lose their subscribers faster than their more honest colleagues.

One thing is certain, every streamer before becoming famous needs to think when receiving a proposal like this and define what should be passed on to their followers by closing deals with the casino. Most people get carried away by money and don't care about the moral issue and whether they will harm or ruin the lives of some followers by leading them to addiction stimulated by the influencer's false earnings.

Yeah, that's fair.
And I would even consider it a curse of the new century, when the now universal global idea of getting as much money as possible has become the most important thing.
What can we say about the honor, dignity and trust of subscribers, when another casino pays a streamer-influencer maybe even $50-100K at once for another fake and advertising of surprisingly easy wins, for example, in slot machines. And of course, this advertising still has an effect despite its absurdity.
Especially probably on teenagers and young people. And then we get another batch of gamblers with gambling addiction at the stage of the disease.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on November 01, 2024, 01:31:03 PM

Quote from: khiholangkang on November 01, 2024, 05:31:12 AM

I also often see Influencers or content creators gambling with unrealistic winnings, and when I see him play directly with the gambling he does it does seem unrealistic, like I take the case when I use all my money to buy free spins with a total of several levels, the biggest return starts from 2x-10x, but it is very rare for profit. I think there are more losses when making purchases, and the worst is that I can't even get anything from my purchases, I think there are more losses when making purchases, and at worst I can't even get anything from the purchases I make, but when I see that streamer make purchases several times with the same random bet levels as I do, he never has a loss, at worst he gets back what he has paid to buy free spins.

What you see from the success achieved by influencers is actually the result of manipulation that runs on the agreement between the casino and the content creator in order to make people easy to get interested and trapped in it in the long term, that is their goal and strategy to get a lot of profit in the long term from losers who dedicate themselves to getting a lot of money from gambling.

On the other hand, you have proven it yourself by trying to buy free spins and you have seen that in most of the trials the results were disappointing and did not match the success achieved by the streamers you see, on the other hand this is the reason why a rational mindset must be used when you find various new things that seem so easy to get.

Can the casino be manipulated with some fraud and a person's game can be controlled by people who are in the casino? Moreover, the online casino that we did not see it, so what could the victory be set in such a way as to classify that it was a fraud, I did not fully understand, but with your statement for the presumption, the casino has access to regulate the victory of the players, if that is true indeed It's too cruel, and there is no luck, there is only a sentence gift to each winner, with the exception of sports matches or others that only rely on the results of certain activities.

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I don't know, from some of the information I got they sometimes only play with a demo account, or they have also worked together and there have been settings that have occurred so that they can get a big win. When they have a big win then of course there will be many enthusiasts to try it but unfortunately, those who imitate the bet really expect a big win and become rich. In fact, in gambling it is very difficult to win as expected or imagined, so when they get the reality that gambling is still not an easy way to make money. So yes, stay careful because we involve real money in betting, unlike a demo account that only bets using the coins that are available and it is not real money that makes you win easily in a demo account.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on November 01, 2024, 01:31:03 PM

Quote from: khiholangkang on November 01, 2024, 05:31:12 AM

I also often see Influencers or content creators gambling with unrealistic winnings, and when I see him play directly with the gambling he does it does seem unrealistic, like I take the case when I use all my money to buy free spins with a total of several levels, the biggest return starts from 2x-10x, but it is very rare for profit. I think there are more losses when making purchases, and the worst is that I can't even get anything from my purchases, I think there are more losses when making purchases, and at worst I can't even get anything from the purchases I make, but when I see that streamer make purchases several times with the same random bet levels as I do, he never has a loss, at worst he gets back what he has paid to buy free spins.

What you see from the success achieved by influencers is actually the result of manipulation that runs on the agreement between the casino and the content creator in order to make people easy to get interested and trapped in it in the long term, that is their goal and strategy to get a lot of profit in the long term from losers who dedicate themselves to getting a lot of money from gambling.

On the other hand, you have proven it yourself by trying to buy free spins and you have seen that in most of the trials the results were disappointing and did not match the success achieved by the streamers you see, on the other hand this is the reason why a rational mindset must be used when you find various new things that seem so easy to get.

We cant be able to prove out those assumptions but we can really be able to tell about those probabilities on which this could really happen out in between influencers and with those
casinos that are really that trying out to make some marketing. They will really be that making out some tweaking about for a certain marketer to have that kind of good winning
chance on which it could really be bringing out that kind of hype into those people who would really be that trying out to watch these steams on which it cant really be denied
that it do really looks out interesting and could give out that kind of boost up whenever we do see these things to happen.

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Quote from: khiholangkang on November 01, 2024, 05:31:12 AM

I also often see Influencers or content creators gambling with unrealistic winnings, and when I see him play directly with the gambling he does it does seem unrealistic, like I take the case when I use all my money to buy free spins with a total of several levels, the biggest return starts from 2x-10x, but it is very rare for profit. I think there are more losses when making purchases, and the worst is that I can't even get anything from my purchases, I think there are more losses when making purchases, and at worst I can't even get anything from the purchases I make, but when I see that streamer make purchases several times with the same random bet levels as I do, he never has a loss, at worst he gets back what he has paid to buy free spins.

What you see from the success achieved by influencers is actually the result of manipulation that runs on the agreement between the casino and the content creator in order to make people easy to get interested and trapped in it in the long term, that is their goal and strategy to get a lot of profit in the long term from losers who dedicate themselves to getting a lot of money from gambling.

On the other hand, you have proven it yourself by trying to buy free spins and you have seen that in most of the trials the results were disappointing and did not match the success achieved by the streamers you see, on the other hand this is the reason why a rational mindset must be used when you find various new things that seem so easy to get.

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Quote from: alani123 on October 20, 2024, 02:06:57 PM

A friend talked to me the other day about how they were tempted to go play some slots after seeing a stream for the last couple of days.

I decided why not and told him to send me a link so we can watch together for a while. During the span of 20 minutes the streamer got at least 3 jackpots of over 100x.
We all know that when playing slots it's more likely than not that you end up burning your entire balance before you can win anything significant. Surely you could get a few wins here and there but not enough to remain in profit forever.

X100 multiplier is very easy to attain. I even manage to hit a back to back x1000 and x2000 multiplier with just few spins which is much harder compared to hitting x100 multiplier consecutively.

It’s just same amount as a breakeven on bonus buy which is very common. The only thing that fake on streamers video are their balance but the game itself is legit since they are using same slot games.

However there’s a speculation before that streamers using demo account which all games has boosted RTP.

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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on October 31, 2024, 06:48:58 PM

Quote from: delfastTions on October 31, 2024, 01:57:08 AM

However, I hope that some influencers have not completely lost their honor, conscience and dignity. And knowing that they participate in deep fake videos, they will think carefully whether they need it. But of course, there are other influencers who will sell their honor, conscience and mother for dollars. The only question for them is the price of this sale.
These are the guys, "happy players", who constantly win 100 times more often than any ordinary player, we constantly see in this advertising. However, in the long term, such influencers will still lose their subscribers faster than their more honest colleagues.

One thing is certain, every streamer before becoming famous needs to think when receiving a proposal like this and define what should be passed on to their followers by closing deals with the casino. Most people get carried away by money and don't care about the moral issue and whether they will harm or ruin the lives of some followers by leading them to addiction stimulated by the influencer's false earnings.

Did you say moral? In this 21st century? Especially when it is young and vibrant guys mostly involved in it? You will hardly see that. I'm sure that some of the gamers must have rejected enough offers from some casinos in the past but they will be so few. I can assure you that 99% of them would agree to a deceptive offer just for the casino to attract more customers and make more money.

That also means more money to the streamer, so it is persuasive for them just like most people would do. It's left to us, we should decide by learning how these things work to know the deceit and decide to shun it or still go ahead to play.

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I also often see Influencers or content creators gambling with unrealistic winnings, and when I see him play directly with the gambling he does it does seem unrealistic, like I take the case when I use all my money to buy free spins with a total of several levels, the biggest return starts from 2x-10x, but it is very rare for profit. I think there are more losses when making purchases, and the worst is that I can't even get anything from my purchases, I think there are more losses when making purchases, and at worst I can't even get anything from the purchases I make, but when I see that streamer make purchases several times with the same random bet levels as I do, he never has a loss, at worst he gets back what he has paid to buy free spins.

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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on October 30, 2024, 05:28:58 PM

Influencers here in my region are doing this a lot, they are usually Facebook pages about humor, they use sensual videos of women and then the next story is about a new platform that is paying, they play live and the results appear at the right time, but they are usually fake banks and balances.

Oh that will makes people tempting and visiting the sites from that Facebook page. Usually, what we see is like that and it needs a power to holds ourselves from skipping that from the wanting to try. But if that is a teenager, I think they can tempting and visiting the casino and playing gambling.

Quote from: $weetne$$ on October 31, 2024, 02:09:44 AM

Gamers and streamers are brainwashers, they do not do what they tell others to do. Alot of them fake everything that they do, they fake their streams, fake their wins and fake most of the things they do therefore they are not to be trusted. Their wins are so unrealistic because they are not real but faked or gotten through other means that they are not telling the truth. They faking of their wins main purpose is to attract more audience and they do that successfully as they grow their followers and make more money from the lies they sell. As for me I do not believe most things that I see online because I know how decieving people can be. No streamer can make me to do anything that I did not plan to do therefore they can not influence me.

Those people show what they do to people from their video but people don't realize about brainwashing them. They will not realize what the effect that they will get after watch the video which can make them have a high curiosity about the games. If people can avoid the temptation of watching the video, they will not lure from playing gambling because they know the risks after doing that. The streamers can show their income from gambling to people and makes people follow what they do but people can not get the same thing like the streamers because they are different. Yes, they don't have to believe of what streamers saying and it is better to skip the content like that.

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Quote from: $weetne$$ on October 31, 2024, 02:09:44 AM

Gamers and streamers are brainwashers, they do not do what they tell others to do. Alot of them fake everything that they do, they fake their streams, fake their wins and fake most of the things they do therefore they are not to be trusted. Their wins are so unrealistic because they are not real but faked or gotten through other means that they are not telling the truth. They faking of their wins main purpose is to attract more audience and they do that successfully as they grow their followers and make more money from the lies they sell. As for me I do not believe most things that I see online because I know how decieving people can be. No streamer can make me to do anything that I did not plan to do therefore they can not influence me.

That may be true, but what they do is a strategy that is indeed intended to seek greater profit from the many people who are interested when they see what is shown, saying it is cunning makes sense but society itself should be able to realize that gambling is a business that is developed and what they do is a legitimate way even though it is by falsifying, the key is in ourselves, we should not be too serious in responding to what happens to the streamer.
It's good if you don't have an interest in what happens and is obtained by the streamer because this can make you financially secure, many people who are interested are those who are too serious about responding to what the streamer gets, even I think when they see this and are interested in doing the same thing they have high hopes even though most likely they will only experience disappointment, especially with them having high hopes it can make them quite disappointed.

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Quote from: delfastTions on October 31, 2024, 01:57:08 AM

However, I hope that some influencers have not completely lost their honor, conscience and dignity. And knowing that they participate in deep fake videos, they will think carefully whether they need it. But of course, there are other influencers who will sell their honor, conscience and mother for dollars. The only question for them is the price of this sale.
These are the guys, "happy players", who constantly win 100 times more often than any ordinary player, we constantly see in this advertising. However, in the long term, such influencers will still lose their subscribers faster than their more honest colleagues.

One thing is certain, every streamer before becoming famous needs to think when receiving a proposal like this and define what should be passed on to their followers by closing deals with the casino. Most people get carried away by money and don't care about the moral issue and whether they will harm or ruin the lives of some followers by leading them to addiction stimulated by the influencer's false earnings.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 29, 2024, 09:13:31 PM

Brainwash from them can be succeed to people if people can not realize that's what they do is just for attracting the audience to visiting the link on the streamer's page and register to the casino so they can start to deposit and playing many gambling games. It needs awareness and being rational as you said so we can be selective to act from what we see. We must responsible with what we will do and we don't have to rush to decide but thinks twice before we decide.

Gamers and streamers are brainwashers, they do not do what they tell others to do. Alot of them fake everything that they do, they fake their streams, fake their wins and fake most of the things they do therefore they are not to be trusted. Their wins are so unrealistic because they are not real but faked or gotten through other means that they are not telling the truth. They faking of their wins main purpose is to attract more audience and they do that successfully as they grow their followers and make more money from the lies they sell. As for me I do not believe most things that I see online because I know how decieving people can be. No streamer can make me to do anything that I did not plan to do therefore they can not influence me.

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Quote from: Forsyth Jones on October 30, 2024, 05:28:58 PM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 27, 2024, 08:49:06 AM

The curiosity from the audience makes them to find out if that is real or not by following to playing gambling in the casino. They just want to prove by themselves that they can get the things that the streamers get but they don't realize if that broadcasts may not real. Besides that, the streamers can use fake money to playing gambling without their audience knows because they want to lure the audience to playing gambling and spends their money in many gambling games. We must be wise if we see the streamers wins so much money and thinks that everything can happen especially in the internet. But we don't have to follow them to playing gambling and use too big money because we are different than them.

Influencers here in my region are doing this a lot, they are usually Facebook pages about humor, they use sensual videos of women and then the next story is about a new platform that is paying, they play live and the results appear at the right time, but they are usually fake banks and balances.

However, I hope that some influencers have not completely lost their honor, conscience and dignity. And knowing that they participate in deep fake videos, they will think carefully whether they need it. But of course, there are other influencers who will sell their honor, conscience and mother for dollars. The only question for them is the price of this sale.
These are the guys, "happy players", who constantly win 100 times more often than any ordinary player, we constantly see in this advertising. However, in the long term, such influencers will still lose their subscribers faster than their more honest colleagues.

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