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hero member
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Be careful though because these casino streamers videos influence us on a subconscious level. It is so deep that it can pop up months later and you will want to play for money at that casino. I also sometimes wanted to see the expressions on their faces when they won and lost, but I understand how much these streams influence us, so I have given up watching these casino streams completely. I will find something more useful to do or eventually go and place small bets myself if I want to relax a little. Besides, watching these streams can take up a lot of our time.
That is good decision to stop watching casino streams. These streams can affect our minds in that way which we might not even notice and they can make us want to gamble later on. And dear it is good that you understand how these streams can impact you and are choosing to focus on more useful and responsible things to do. With doing this you are avoiding danger of getting into bad gambling habits and you are also saving time that you could use for more enjoyable and valuable activities.

Watching casino broadcast videos will only frustrate us when we realize that the results obtained will never be as easy as we see from the broadcast. Watching it as entertainment may be the most appropriate, but if the broadcast influences gamblers to continue gambling activities and want to pursue luck as they see, it is an indication of a bad step for a gambler.
Gamble when we want to do it. And stop or avoid gambling when we don't want to. Don't put ourselves in a difficult situation.
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Be careful though because these casino streamers videos influence us on a subconscious level. It is so deep that it can pop up months later and you will want to play for money at that casino. I also sometimes wanted to see the expressions on their faces when they won and lost, but I understand how much these streams influence us, so I have given up watching these casino streams completely. I will find something more useful to do or eventually go and place small bets myself if I want to relax a little. Besides, watching these streams can take up a lot of our time.
That is good decision to stop watching casino streams. These streams can affect our minds in that way which we might not even notice and they can make us want to gamble later on. And dear it is good that you understand how these streams can impact you and are choosing to focus on more useful and responsible things to do. With doing this you are avoiding danger of getting into bad gambling habits and you are also saving time that you could use for more enjoyable and valuable activities.
legendary
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No matter how long you look for a streamer who cares about his followers, you will not find one, their goal is to find as many followers as possible and usually they will provide a referral link for their followers who are interested and that is one of their goals, after that the streamer will not care about his followers whether they experience defeat or even a big win. Sometimes there are streamers who do giveaways or other things that do not mean he cares about his followers, but it is for his own good with his popularity.
I myself often find streamers who operate but have never found a streamer who cares about his followers, besides I don't think that's possible either. We should be aware not to take seriously what the streamer displays on the screen because it is likely just a trick that is an alibi for marketing his casino.
At least we can try to find that streamer who cares because I am sure they are there that will cares to their follower and not just because money oriented. But if there is no streamer who cares with their follower, we can get what is good from them and leave the bad because that can makes us in trouble. We don't have to follow them if they ask us to do something that looks will give a bad affect to us. We must be wise to the streamer and always filter what the serves so that will not gives a problem to us. We don't know if they are really doing that thing or just because of other reasons.

Hmm yes, looking for streamers who care about the safety of their followers is indeed good, but on the other hand, I think it is very unlikely for a streamer who promotes gambling to really care about his followers because usually the streamer's agreement with the casino bookie is to find many new people and then register on the link provided, simply put, the more people who register, the more commission the streamers will get and not only that, usually they also get a 10% bonus from every loss experienced by gamblers who register via the link they provided earlier.
So actually I think there is no real concern if for example there is money or profit involved in it, even many friendships or households are damaged because of money and especially just social media followers who we certainly don't know very well.
legendary
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Bookies are partnering with streamers and naturally, if the streamer embeds the bookie's link, it shows that there is more monetary interest. Besides, if the subscribers signed up to the bookie through the link, that still doesn't mean such a subscriber will not be a returning viewer of the streamer.
... the influencer will earn only a small piece of that large amount of money, that is why it is so important that the influencer does not sell his dignity or sell his ethics for that money that is offered to him.

It depends on the kind of casino and whether the public is aware the influencer is being paid to promote the casino as a service. I personally do not have anything with influencer or internet personalities accepting money, so they can advertise and promote services, as long as it is a disclosed agreement and the public is aware of what is going on.
The wrong way would be use fake money and not disclosing the agreement between the casino/bookie and the person who is streaming the gambling session.

Also, one only sell one's dignity when one advertises a service or a product which is a scam and one is aware of it, otherwise it is plain and simple advertisement, which is not illegal.
legendary
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Bookies are partnering with streamers and naturally, if the streamer embeds the bookie's link, it shows that there is more monetary interest. Besides, if the subscribers signed up to the bookie through the link, that still doesn't mean such a subscriber will not be a returning viewer of the streamer.
That is correct, there will always be a monetary interest involved, that is why some do what they can so that they can be in the business model, if this is planned well, then both will win, of course much more the platform than the influencer, the influencer will earn only a small piece of that large amount of money, that is why it is so important that the influencer does not sell his dignity or sell his ethics for that money that is offered to him.

legendary
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What you wrote is probably the main problem when watching streams and that the attitude of streamers to subscribers can in no way be called sincere and truly humane. For almost all streamers, a subscriber is just a handy tool for making money and if a subscriber has somehow worked off the streamer's recommendation, for example, used a referral link, then this person is basically no longer needed by the streamer.
You got me confused here, did you mean that so long as the subscriber of the streamer clicked on the referral link actually "embedded by the streamer," the streamer doesn't have anything to do with the subscriber again? If yes, how? Sincerely, I don't see how this correlates.

Bookies are partnering with streamers and naturally, if the streamer embeds the bookie's link, it shows that there is more monetary interest. Besides, if the subscribers signed up to the bookie through the link, that still doesn't mean such a subscriber will not be a returning viewer of the streamer.
Well, of course, such a subscriber will probably continue to watch these streams.

I will clarify my statement more correctly. Since any serious streamer has many subscribers, thousands of people or an order of magnitude more, then the streamer's attitude to the sum of these people becomes purely formal, excluding any individual manifestations of human sympathy or real friendship. As a result, these subscribers cease to be perceived by the streamer as autonomous individuals, as personalities, and turn into a formal tool for earning money.
And in principle, it does not matter how the streamer earns money - referral links or simply by paying for advertising from a casino or bookmaker or other payments. This is my vision of this process.
hero member
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What you wrote is probably the main problem when watching streams and that the attitude of streamers to subscribers can in no way be called sincere and truly humane. For almost all streamers, a subscriber is just a handy tool for making money and if a subscriber has somehow worked off the streamer's recommendation, for example, used a referral link, then this person is basically no longer needed by the streamer.
You got me confused here, did you mean that so long as the subscriber of the streamer clicked on the referral link actually "embedded by the streamer," the streamer doesn't have anything to do with the subscriber again? If yes, how? Sincerely, I don't see how this correlates.

Bookies are partnering with streamers and naturally, if the streamer embeds the bookie's link, it shows that there is more monetary interest. Besides, if the subscribers signed up to the bookie through the link, that still doesn't mean such a subscriber will not be a returning viewer of the streamer.
hero member
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No matter how long you look for a streamer who cares about his followers, you will not find one, their goal is to find as many followers as possible and usually they will provide a referral link for their followers who are interested and that is one of their goals, after that the streamer will not care about his followers whether they experience defeat or even a big win. Sometimes there are streamers who do giveaways or other things that do not mean he cares about his followers, but it is for his own good with his popularity.
I myself often find streamers who operate but have never found a streamer who cares about his followers, besides I don't think that's possible either. We should be aware not to take seriously what the streamer displays on the screen because it is likely just a trick that is an alibi for marketing his casino.
What you wrote is probably the main problem when watching streams and that the attitude of streamers to subscribers can in no way be called sincere and truly humane. For almost all streamers, a subscriber is just a handy tool for making money and if a subscriber has somehow worked off the streamer's recommendation, for example, used a referral link, then this person is basically no longer needed by the streamer.
I wonder if it is possible to find at least one selfless and honest streamer among those who work in the gambling industry.
Or is it generally impossible?
I'm not sure there is a question that you mentioned, first they have a strong goal of seeking profit and by attracting many people their profits will be greater, this applies to casinos or streamers who usually have prepared links for viewers who are interested in gambling with the casino they are promoting, that too is a profit, only the profit from the link is usually more for the streamer, not the casino.
In addition, I have never found a streamer who really pays attention to their followers, usually they will not care about their followers when the audience has started following them and registering, they will not pay attention to them, also with the videos they broadcast I agree that it is fake, it's just that not all streamers are like that.
hero member
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No matter how long you look for a streamer who cares about his followers, you will not find one, their goal is to find as many followers as possible and usually they will provide a referral link for their followers who are interested and that is one of their goals, after that the streamer will not care about his followers whether they experience defeat or even a big win. Sometimes there are streamers who do giveaways or other things that do not mean he cares about his followers, but it is for his own good with his popularity.
I myself often find streamers who operate but have never found a streamer who cares about his followers, besides I don't think that's possible either. We should be aware not to take seriously what the streamer displays on the screen because it is likely just a trick that is an alibi for marketing his casino.
At least we can try to find that streamer who cares because I am sure they are there that will cares to their follower and not just because money oriented. But if there is no streamer who cares with their follower, we can get what is good from them and leave the bad because that can makes us in trouble. We don't have to follow them if they ask us to do something that looks will give a bad affect to us. We must be wise to the streamer and always filter what the serves so that will not gives a problem to us. We don't know if they are really doing that thing or just because of other reasons.
legendary
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I haven’t seen many gambling clips on my timeline on X lately. I guess because I never interacted with them so maybe my algorithm has finally tuned them out. It is also a possibility that wasn’t a good form of advertising and they aren’t promoting them the way they were. It’s all still such a new industry…

Lucky you. Even though I pretty much only interact with stake I basically get bombarded with other casino's content as well as gambling clips, it's actually annoying.
I already blocked so many sites so they don't appear in my timeline anymore but it feels like there is endless more in the pipeline just to annoy me even more. For that reason as well I don't use X anymore, just too much trash!

And getting back in the topic, the streams are so unrealistic because they aren't playing with real money, if you give to a user 2 million dollars to gamble on a casino the first thing he will do is to try to withdraw and walkway with the money, no one will deposit millions in a casino to lose it all as the streamers show.

Right, even local gambling streamers here in our country, wherein there was a surge in the last 6 months, I was really mesmerized with how big money they got and playing and streaming it and sometimes they will give someone some money after they won.

But I'm thinking that this could be fake money and then those who are supposedly awarded by free money are in cohorts with this streamers. But I still watch them though, but I'm not going to be influence and I only watch because I do like their expression when they won, but deep inside I know that is fake, Lol.
Be careful though because these casino streamers videos influence us on a subconscious level. It is so deep that it can pop up months later and you will want to play for money at that casino. I also sometimes wanted to see the expressions on their faces when they won and lost, but I understand how much these streams influence us, so I have given up watching these casino streams completely. I will find something more useful to do or eventually go and place small bets myself if I want to relax a little. Besides, watching these streams can take up a lot of our time.
hero member
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I haven’t seen many gambling clips on my timeline on X lately. I guess because I never interacted with them so maybe my algorithm has finally tuned them out. It is also a possibility that wasn’t a good form of advertising and they aren’t promoting them the way they were. It’s all still such a new industry…

Lucky you. Even though I pretty much only interact with stake I basically get bombarded with other casino's content as well as gambling clips, it's actually annoying.
I already blocked so many sites so they don't appear in my timeline anymore but it feels like there is endless more in the pipeline just to annoy me even more. For that reason as well I don't use X anymore, just too much trash!

And getting back in the topic, the streams are so unrealistic because they aren't playing with real money, if you give to a user 2 million dollars to gamble on a casino the first thing he will do is to try to withdraw and walkway with the money, no one will deposit millions in a casino to lose it all as the streamers show.

Right, even local gambling streamers here in our country, wherein there was a surge in the last 6 months, I was really mesmerized with how big money they got and playing and streaming it and sometimes they will give someone some money after they won.

But I'm thinking that this could be fake money and then those who are supposedly awarded by free money are in cohorts with this streamers. But I still watch them though, but I'm not going to be influence and I only watch because I do like their expression when they won, but deep inside I know that is fake, Lol.
legendary
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I note for myself that if a streamer unexpectedly for me during the stream starts mentioning a paid service that is necessary to follow his recommendations, then he immediately loses points in my respect, since this reference to a paid service will immediately scare away half of those who watch his stream. This is also due to the fact that the registration and payment for paid services themselves involve the transfer of personal data to these Services and, naturally, takes your time to register and pay for the service. I think that if the streamer is a truly smart advisor and an insightful person who takes care of his subscribers, then he will not allow himself to make references to paid services or will try to inform viewers about what free analogues of these services exist and work. However, this requires the streamer himself to check such data. But if he does this, then he is a really good streamer and can be trusted within some reasonable limits.
That is why we are difficult to find a streamer that really care to their follower and gives education for their follower without thinks about the paid services. He know that he earn money from his channel and when his channel become more popular, he will earn more so he doesn't need to use paid services. He will gives more videos about education and reminds his follower that he only want to help them and share something value to them. If I find that streamer, I will like him because it is rare to see a streamer like that instead just want to use paid service or use other requirement for their follower.
No matter how long you look for a streamer who cares about his followers, you will not find one, their goal is to find as many followers as possible and usually they will provide a referral link for their followers who are interested and that is one of their goals, after that the streamer will not care about his followers whether they experience defeat or even a big win. Sometimes there are streamers who do giveaways or other things that do not mean he cares about his followers, but it is for his own good with his popularity.
I myself often find streamers who operate but have never found a streamer who cares about his followers, besides I don't think that's possible either. We should be aware not to take seriously what the streamer displays on the screen because it is likely just a trick that is an alibi for marketing his casino.
What you wrote is probably the main problem when watching streams and that the attitude of streamers to subscribers can in no way be called sincere and truly humane. For almost all streamers, a subscriber is just a handy tool for making money and if a subscriber has somehow worked off the streamer's recommendation, for example, used a referral link, then this person is basically no longer needed by the streamer.
I wonder if it is possible to find at least one selfless and honest streamer among those who work in the gambling industry.
Or is it generally impossible?
hero member
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I note for myself that if a streamer unexpectedly for me during the stream starts mentioning a paid service that is necessary to follow his recommendations, then he immediately loses points in my respect, since this reference to a paid service will immediately scare away half of those who watch his stream. This is also due to the fact that the registration and payment for paid services themselves involve the transfer of personal data to these Services and, naturally, takes your time to register and pay for the service. I think that if the streamer is a truly smart advisor and an insightful person who takes care of his subscribers, then he will not allow himself to make references to paid services or will try to inform viewers about what free analogues of these services exist and work. However, this requires the streamer himself to check such data. But if he does this, then he is a really good streamer and can be trusted within some reasonable limits.
That is why we are difficult to find a streamer that really care to their follower and gives education for their follower without thinks about the paid services. He know that he earn money from his channel and when his channel become more popular, he will earn more so he doesn't need to use paid services. He will gives more videos about education and reminds his follower that he only want to help them and share something value to them. If I find that streamer, I will like him because it is rare to see a streamer like that instead just want to use paid service or use other requirement for their follower.
No matter how long you look for a streamer who cares about his followers, you will not find one, their goal is to find as many followers as possible and usually they will provide a referral link for their followers who are interested and that is one of their goals, after that the streamer will not care about his followers whether they experience defeat or even a big win. Sometimes there are streamers who do giveaways or other things that do not mean he cares about his followers, but it is for his own good with his popularity.
I myself often find streamers who operate but have never found a streamer who cares about his followers, besides I don't think that's possible either. We should be aware not to take seriously what the streamer displays on the screen because it is likely just a trick that is an alibi for marketing his casino.
hero member
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I note for myself that if a streamer unexpectedly for me during the stream starts mentioning a paid service that is necessary to follow his recommendations, then he immediately loses points in my respect, since this reference to a paid service will immediately scare away half of those who watch his stream. This is also due to the fact that the registration and payment for paid services themselves involve the transfer of personal data to these Services and, naturally, takes your time to register and pay for the service. I think that if the streamer is a truly smart advisor and an insightful person who takes care of his subscribers, then he will not allow himself to make references to paid services or will try to inform viewers about what free analogues of these services exist and work. However, this requires the streamer himself to check such data. But if he does this, then he is a really good streamer and can be trusted within some reasonable limits.
That is why we are difficult to find a streamer that really care to their follower and gives education for their follower without thinks about the paid services. He know that he earn money from his channel and when his channel become more popular, he will earn more so he doesn't need to use paid services. He will gives more videos about education and reminds his follower that he only want to help them and share something value to them. If I find that streamer, I will like him because it is rare to see a streamer like that instead just want to use paid service or use other requirement for their follower.
legendary
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I haven’t seen many gambling clips on my timeline on X lately. I guess because I never interacted with them so maybe my algorithm has finally tuned them out. It is also a possibility that wasn’t a good form of advertising and they aren’t promoting them the way they were. It’s all still such a new industry…

Lucky you. Even though I pretty much only interact with stake I basically get bombarded with other casino's content as well as gambling clips, it's actually annoying.
I already blocked so many sites so they don't appear in my timeline anymore but it feels like there is endless more in the pipeline just to annoy me even more. For that reason as well I don't use X anymore, just too much trash!

What do you expect from X? Even Elon Musk already explained it, if you block the casino content then the algorithm will understand that you like to block that context and will send you more, that way you can keep blocking it.

And getting back in the topic, the streams are so unrealistic because they aren't playing with real money, if you give to a user 2 million dollars to gamble on a casino the first thing he will do is to try to withdraw and walkway with the money, no one will deposit millions in a casino to lose it all as the streamers show.
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I haven’t seen many gambling clips on my timeline on X lately. I guess because I never interacted with them so maybe my algorithm has finally tuned them out. It is also a possibility that wasn’t a good form of advertising and they aren’t promoting them the way they were. It’s all still such a new industry…

Lucky you. Even though I pretty much only interact with stake I basically get bombarded with other casino's content as well as gambling clips, it's actually annoying.
I already blocked so many sites so they don't appear in my timeline anymore but it feels like there is endless more in the pipeline just to annoy me even more. For that reason as well I don't use X anymore, just too much trash!
legendary
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I have noticed this for a long time and of course it greatly affects the minds of beginners who do not understand and do not even admit the option that they will be much less lucky. Each viewer, looking at such streams, will think that he is no worse than this streamer and deserves even more winnings than he does, but forgetting that luck chooses regardless of what kind of a good person the player is in life or other features. Either luck comes or it does not, and I always try to advise players to think about what they will do if they suddenly lose and do not win, because no one wants to think about this, but only about winning.

Not to mention that stream video can be rigged so it seems that streamer is winning in regular game but actually he is winning in game that is rigged in his favour. That way people can mistakenly think that they have better odds then they actually do. I am not saying this the case  but just pointing out this possibility.

Can you show an example of a rigged video? I think that "video is rigged" comes from seeing that streamers only win and win large amounts. However many dont pay attention that videos are often a compilation of best moments. When gamblers upload their videos, they cut out all the parts where they lose or nothing interesting happens, and that makes an illusion that winning is easy and they win all the time.
I guess you did not understand what he meant by "stream video can be rigged", what he meant was that, a live gambling show, like; watching the streamer play games live in front of the camera, it's still possible for them to win because the game they are playing has been programmed by the casino they are promoting to give them nothing but good winnings, that is, the casino have worked the game to give the streamer account good winning, as a way to lure those watching the streamer to want to try the same game on the same casino.

This is very possible, and quite different from what you are talking about, which is to make a video, take time to edit it before uploading it for the general public to watch, this one is completely different.

Would you be so kind to explain then how can a casino edit game settings to get a higher win chance for a streamer, when they place provider games on their pages. Game provider is in collusion also? From videos that I have seen, streamers do get lucky to win more often, or we remember their wins more than their losses, but by the end they usually lose all. What is an unrealistic gambling video anyway? When gambler gets a high multiplier or he gets them frequently or one by one? I can believe someone might catch a high or rare multiplier while streaming, I cant believe he can get a lot of them by nature.
hero member
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I have noticed this for a long time and of course it greatly affects the minds of beginners who do not understand and do not even admit the option that they will be much less lucky. Each viewer, looking at such streams, will think that he is no worse than this streamer and deserves even more winnings than he does, but forgetting that luck chooses regardless of what kind of a good person the player is in life or other features. Either luck comes or it does not, and I always try to advise players to think about what they will do if they suddenly lose and do not win, because no one wants to think about this, but only about winning.
The purpose of such videos is for players to see an example of how to get a big win, this will work as an example of other players - if someone could do it, then I can too. But I think that this is designed for gullible players who believe that streamers play for real money, but in fact I am almost sure that they play for virtual money, which the casino presents to them for such videos.
legendary
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I have noticed this for a long time and of course it greatly affects the minds of beginners who do not understand and do not even admit the option that they will be much less lucky. Each viewer, looking at such streams, will think that he is no worse than this streamer and deserves even more winnings than he does, but forgetting that luck chooses regardless of what kind of a good person the player is in life or other features. Either luck comes or it does not, and I always try to advise players to think about what they will do if they suddenly lose and do not win, because no one wants to think about this, but only about winning.

Not to mention that stream video can be rigged so it seems that streamer is winning in regular game but actually he is winning in game that is rigged in his favour. That way people can mistakenly think that they have better odds then they actually do. I am not saying this the case  but just pointing out this possibility.

Can you show an example of a rigged video? I think that "video is rigged" comes from seeing that streamers only win and win large amounts. However many dont pay attention that videos are often a compilation of best moments. When gamblers upload their videos, they cut out all the parts where they lose or nothing interesting happens, and that makes an illusion that winning is easy and they win all the time.
I guess you did not understand what he meant by "stream video can be rigged", what he meant was that, a live gambling show, like; watching the streamer play games live in front of the camera, it's still possible for them to win because the game they are playing has been programmed by the casino they are promoting to give them nothing but good winnings, that is, the casino have worked the game to give the streamer account good winning, as a way to lure those watching the streamer to want to try the same game on the same casino.

This is very possible, and quite different from what you are talking about, which is to make a video, take time to edit it before uploading it for the general public to watch, this one is completely different.
legendary
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Probably sometimes the greed of the streamer still wins over his desire to keep subscribers who are guaranteed to trust him and such a person gives in and agrees to receive some additional income from advertising, which can be conditionally called hidden. It seems to me that including the use of paid services in streams, which many subscribers initially naturally do not like, this is precisely such a weakness of the streamer as a principled person. As a result, he still gradually begins to lose subscribers.
Yes, that is the greed of the streamer that wants to get more profit from his follow so he use paid services. He thinks that his follower will still join in his paid services because they want some exclusives info from him. But that will not always like that because his follower are smart and will know what they should do. Maybe some follower will join in his paid services but the other follower will moves to the other streamers. So we need to responsible with anything we will do especially watching many videos on the internet or our social media. We don't have to follow that streamers that will not gives benefits to us so we must be careful for that.
I note for myself that if a streamer unexpectedly for me during the stream starts mentioning a paid service that is necessary to follow his recommendations, then he immediately loses points in my respect, since this reference to a paid service will immediately scare away half of those who watch his stream. This is also due to the fact that the registration and payment for paid services themselves involve the transfer of personal data to these Services and, naturally, takes your time to register and pay for the service. I think that if the streamer is a truly smart advisor and an insightful person who takes care of his subscribers, then he will not allow himself to make references to paid services or will try to inform viewers about what free analogues of these services exist and work. However, this requires the streamer himself to check such data. But if he does this, then he is a really good streamer and can be trusted within some reasonable limits.
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