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December 03, 2022, 12:34:15 AM
As for why he hid his winnings from his family, it could be that he had evil intentions with the money he got,

It could also be that he has extravagant wife and children and did not want them to waste his lucky fortune. The lucky gambler does not want to return to days of want and lack. If am the gambler I will also behave the same way and hide my identity. Mine will not be from my family but for security reasons from outsiders. People are ready to kill you if they know fortune smiled on you.
maybe this is the big reason because if it is what he stated in the post? I think that is exaggerating reaction to hide like that.
and besides why need to be broadcasted if you win? in lottery they try to hide each the winner completely for security purposes.
but giving all these? if I am lucky enough to win like this? i will let my family know the winnings but will teach them how to save the funds and with complete terms.
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December 02, 2022, 11:39:05 PM
It is great to teach your family a lesson especially your children, however, being secretive about your winnings especially this kind of amount to your own family isn't the correct action to do so. You can still teach them to be the same person and work hard without being secretive about your winnings. Just like what you've said, "rich" families teach their children to work hard and not be dependent on them.

I might understand if that person would like to plan or budget first his winnings such as investments, business, home, or even cars before telling his family.  Just to make sure that the money will not be wasted and instantly banished after a while which commonly happens to lottery winners. However, if it is not the case, I don't think that he is on the right side and probably plans something just for himself.
His intention is great as I doubt there is anyone that wants to see their family spoiled due to the sudden wealth, however the way he has chosen to try to do this is mistaken.

Now his fears are not unfounded as there are many lottery winners which at the end wish such wealth did not came their way, as they lose everything just a few years down the line or there are family tragedies caused by the money, but since he is aware of those effects it would be easier to try to remind his family about them and teach them how to use that money responsibly, but by hiding his wealth he is risking they will find out one day and then he will lose his family anyway.
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November 27, 2022, 04:05:53 PM
A very good action in my opinion as a father, who doesn't want his family to know that his father won the jackpot from several games, maybe this person doesn't want his son to follow in his father's footsteps,

I don't think the father don't want his son to follow his footstep of being a gambler.  If he doesn't want  his son to follow his footstep as a gambler then he must quit gambling and set himself as an example.

as a gambler or lottery enthusiast, because it will damage the future of his children or also his wife, in my opinion that is what is natural as the head of the household who is obliged to protect against crime after they get a very big jackpot..

This is nonsense, the father is already engaged in gambling, and not hiding his wealth from his son and wife will destroy their lives?  I do not think the father is protecting his family from crime by keeping his winnings a secret.  That is a twisted reasoning just to prove the father's action of not informing his family about the wealth that they should enjoy.  Not informing them means the father intention is to keep the winnings by himself.


It is great to teach your family a lesson especially your children, however, being secretive about your winnings especially this kind of amount to your own family isn't the correct action to do so. You can still teach them to be the same person and work hard without being secretive about your winnings. Just like what you've said, "rich" families teach their children to work hard and not be dependent on them.

I highly agree a husband must not keep a secret from his wife.  They are couples and considered as one.  The family should enjoy the blessing the father received.  And he can do guidance to his family without keeping his wealth a secret.  As a matter of fact, the father will have more authority over his family because he is the person who provides great wealth and easy lives to his family.

I might understand if that person would like to plan or budget first his winnings such as investments, business, home, or even cars before telling his family.  Just to make sure that the money will not be wasted and instantly banished after a while which commonly happens to lottery winners. However, if it is not the case, I don't think that he is on the right side and probably plans something just for himself.

Same suspicion here.  I think the father wanted to solo spend his winnings.  Probably to sponsor his friend and enjoy his vices.  Who know maybe this guy has already a mistress whom he wanted to share his new found wealth.
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November 27, 2022, 03:46:23 PM
We may think it is unfair to the man's family, but maybe there is some truth in his thoughts. He may want to teach his family to keep trying even though they already have a lot of money and do nothing but enjoy their winnings. Hopefully, he can tell his family about his big win so they can celebrate it and change his life for good. He can also advise his family not to waste his winnings and try to prepare better for his future. The money was very much and could support the man's family well, but if not used properly, it would not give any results.
To some rich families, they also teach their kids to work hard and to not totally depend on their parents. This is a great because kids will learn how to value money and this will also improve their life more evenly, making them more rich.

If we are lazy and we will only spend, no matter how big is that money it will always be drained out. What will happen to them after that? Winning in lottery is not easy and it can only happen once in a blue moon or one in our lifetime so it's important that we must value the money that came through it. It will also be a good idea to use it in setting up a business to grow it more and let your family involved in it.
It is great to teach your family a lesson especially your children, however, being secretive about your winnings especially this kind of amount to your own family isn't the correct action to do so. You can still teach them to be the same person and work hard without being secretive about your winnings. Just like what you've said, "rich" families teach their children to work hard and not be dependent on them.

I might understand if that person would like to plan or budget first his winnings such as investments, business, home, or even cars before telling his family.  Just to make sure that the money will not be wasted and instantly banished after a while which commonly happens to lottery winners. However, if it is not the case, I don't think that he is on the right side and probably plans something just for himself.
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November 27, 2022, 01:48:14 PM
As for why he hid his winnings from his family, it could be that he had evil intentions with the money he got,

It could also be that he has extravagant wife and children and did not want them to waste his lucky fortune. The lucky gambler does not want to return to days of want and lack. If am the gambler I will also behave the same way and hide my identity. Mine will not be from my family but for security reasons from outsiders. People are ready to kill you if they know fortune smiled on you.
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November 27, 2022, 01:24:56 PM
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To some rich families, they also teach their kids to work hard and to not totally depend on their parents. This is a great because kids will learn how to value money and this will also improve their life more evenly, making them more rich.

If we are lazy and we will only spend, no matter how big is that money it will always be drained out. What will happen to them after that? Winning in lottery is not easy and it can only happen once in a blue moon or one in our lifetime so it's important that we must value the money that came through it. It will also be a good idea to use it in setting up a business to grow it more and let your family involved in it.
the boss where I work currently educates his children very hard and firmly, his three children are taught to work hard and work together in company operations, they are never spoiled by my boss because my boss built the company from scratch

then the lottery winner only gives reasons that don't make sense, if he really loves his child, he will definitely send his child to the best, most expensive place, besides that he will definitely make a business for his wife to manage, then the reason is to hide the winnings so his family doesn't get lazy sounds fake to me
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November 27, 2022, 02:40:24 AM
We may think it is unfair to the man's family, but maybe there is some truth in his thoughts. He may want to teach his family to keep trying even though they already have a lot of money and do nothing but enjoy their winnings. Hopefully, he can tell his family about his big win so they can celebrate it and change his life for good.
lying is wrong, it doesn't matter if people in the family are people but, they are people who would spend all the money, they are people who could rob him or even kill him for money, he cannot lie to them, that is wrong. This is the point I disagree with his attitude. the instant he lies then he is teaching his family members to lie, if his family members won the money and didn't tell him anything? would he be happy the day he found out? this is another point. I believe this guy just doesn't like his family, he wanted to eat his money alone because he has the bad thought that he shouldn't spend his money with his family
If he uses his money for himself without thinking about his family, that is a big mistake, especially not thinking about his child's future. He shouldn't have to lie to his family because that can teach his son to lie too. But I also feel he doesn't like his family to the point of not telling the truth that he has won a lot of money. After all, family is something we all have and he grows old with them unless he plans to marry another woman.

He can also advise his family not to waste his winnings and try to prepare better for his future. The money was very much and could support the man's family well, but if not used properly, it would not give any results.
if he was an honest person he could have done that, because the money is in his bank account so how the hell would the family spend so much if he controls all the money himself? and that makes no sense and leads me to think that this guy doesn't like his family and that this was his opportunity to leave the family, he wanted the family to live badly because then they would get tired and leave, this trick has been played by many bad people and when they are discovered they always use arguments that they were hiding to protect the family because they would spend all the money, it's all a lie
If he wanted to do so, he had to remember that what he did now could come back to him in the future and he could suffer even worse consequences. The responsibility of a husband is to look after his family and share everything with his family. But we can't do anything about it and just hope that he doesn't do that and tells his family the truth. Who knows, he and his family can plan better for their family so that his life and that of his family can be even better. But indeed, humans can act like that and will not think about their families.

We may think it is unfair to the man's family, but maybe there is some truth in his thoughts. He may want to teach his family to keep trying even though they already have a lot of money and do nothing but enjoy their winnings. Hopefully, he can tell his family about his big win so they can celebrate it and change his life for good. He can also advise his family not to waste his winnings and try to prepare better for his future. The money was very much and could support the man's family well, but if not used properly, it would not give any results.
To some rich families, they also teach their kids to work hard and to not totally depend on their parents. This is a great because kids will learn how to value money and this will also improve their life more evenly, making them more rich.

If we are lazy and we will only spend, no matter how big is that money it will always be drained out. What will happen to them after that? Winning in lottery is not easy and it can only happen once in a blue moon or one in our lifetime so it's important that we must value the money that came through it. It will also be a good idea to use it in setting up a business to grow it more and let your family involved in it.
Winning the lottery can certainly change a person's life and he can buy all necessities in his life but if he doesn't think about doing the best for his family and just spends all his money, he won't be able to change his life. But sometimes we will get greedy by buying a lot of things when we have a lot of money and won't think about what tomorrow is sure to happen.
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November 26, 2022, 04:34:03 PM
We may think it is unfair to the man's family, but maybe there is some truth in his thoughts. He may want to teach his family to keep trying even though they already have a lot of money and do nothing but enjoy their winnings. Hopefully, he can tell his family about his big win so they can celebrate it and change his life for good. He can also advise his family not to waste his winnings and try to prepare better for his future. The money was very much and could support the man's family well, but if not used properly, it would not give any results.
To some rich families, they also teach their kids to work hard and to not totally depend on their parents. This is a great because kids will learn how to value money and this will also improve their life more evenly, making them more rich.

If we are lazy and we will only spend, no matter how big is that money it will always be drained out. What will happen to them after that? Winning in lottery is not easy and it can only happen once in a blue moon or one in our lifetime so it's important that we must value the money that came through it. It will also be a good idea to use it in setting up a business to grow it more and let your family involved in it.
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November 26, 2022, 01:19:19 PM
This isn't fair to the man's family. I really don't know the financial background if the man's family before the winning but $30 million is a whole lot of money not to make someone lazy and if thinking your family will be lazy because of the money then that isn't reasonable enough.
I would have accepted an excuse that the money might make his family go wide not lazy because you don't expect a family who might not have had a good financial record before now and maybe struggling to make ends before the win to still work extremely hard after winning such amount of money.
$30 million when converted to my local currency is a whole lot of money and also a life and destiny changing amount of money and certainly I wouldn't have to see my family having to work so hard after such a huge winning.

Do you know what I hate about people and money that s not theirs? Entitlement! Don't feel entitled to people's money, if they win an amount and they give you a share, they did it for some reason, don't feel you have a part in people's life because you are with them as long as you didn't contribute ideas or some effort when they had nothing or in their struggling stage and even if you were there, if they don't give you a share, you have no right to feel entitled because you have no legal documents to supports your claim.

I believe everyone should learn to achieve wealth regardless of anybody's place in the family. It was his decision to remove the family from the calculations, either to protect them or to ensure they wouldn't feel they would want to quit their previous existence after he won a jackpot.
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November 26, 2022, 01:10:53 PM
A very good action in my opinion as a father, who doesn't want his family to know that his father won the jackpot from several games, maybe this person doesn't want his son to follow in his father's footsteps, as a gambler or lottery enthusiast, because it will damage the future of his children or also his wife, in my opinion that is what is natural as the head of the household who is obliged to protect against crime after they get a very big jackpot..
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November 26, 2022, 12:39:34 PM
This isn't fair to the man's family. I really don't know the financial background if the man's family before the winning but $30 million is a whole lot of money not to make someone lazy and if thinking your family will be lazy because of the money then that isn't reasonable enough.
I would have accepted an excuse that the money might make his family go wide not lazy because you don't expect a family who might not have had a good financial record before now and maybe struggling to make ends before the win to still work extremely hard after winning such amount of money.
$30 million when converted to my local currency is a whole lot of money and also a life and destiny changing amount of money and certainly I wouldn't have to see my family having to work so hard after such a huge winning.

In essence, we do not know for sure what is behind the decision and the reasons for keeping it a secret from his family. maybe that's not the real reason, maybe he really doesn't want to be exposed just to keep his identity secret from the public.
yes, we never know what is the real reason behind the luck he got from the lottery. $30 million is a lot of money, even you and I could buy real estate houses and luxury cars.

if what he said were true, he was worried that the money would make them lazy. quite rational reasons, considering we do not know the condition of their families.but what is clear, we cannot blame the man's decision. and we don't know any exact reasons behind all of his statements. that is why he chose to keep his identity secret so that the public would not know the identity of the $30 lottery winner. however, what makes it unique. the lottery platform did not mind when the man wore a costume to keep his identity secret.
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November 26, 2022, 12:00:44 PM
I just want to add that in some countries, lottery winners are revealed in public because of transparency issues. I just don't know what specific countries are those. But as far as my knowledge on that is concerned, it's only the lottery as the gambling type that has cases of revealing winners.

Outside the lottery or other gambling types, there are no cases I  heard that winners are revealed. And if we refer to online gambling sites, that is something we can't expect even if there's no privacy data act or something regulations like that.

Lotteries require public transparency because the ticket issuers aren't incurring any risk when people purchase tickets, so it'd be easy to hand select a winner. Other types of gambling, such as playing on a betting platform, require the same transparency between the platform and the player but that transparency can be private because the only money at risk is the individual player. If the player's inclined, they can request proof that the game they're playing on isn't rigged.

Realistically, you could incorporate blockchain tech into lottery systems to make them anonymous and transparent and I've seen some online betting platforms pull this off. Haven't yet seen a country adopt a blockchain lottery system yet.

It's not yet utilized in lottery outlets to use blockchain technology because it's not widely adopted just yet by companies. The need for it to be used in lottery system isn't much needed which perhaps is the reason why there's little to none lottery company using it yet. Their system still works for them well in drawing the combination for winners and storing the data in their database.

Regarding transparency, transparency is much needed in this kind of gamble because a huge amount of money is involved. One must not be tainted in order to maintain their reputation and credibility. If they will expose the name of the winner, the real name, and not an alias without the person's consent, they will most likely suffer a case in the court. Agreement is really a must in order to have a hassle-free process.
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November 26, 2022, 11:09:08 AM
When he won, it will be shared by the bank on transaction . So it’s easy to know by his family. How he is saying, it was hidden to their family. Did the O.P trying to say their family was not explored to the Internet. It was very curiosity to know such things, breaking news from their country is enough to know by their wife. Because as we know all of our house wife was get into television as compared to us. So my point is it’s not possible to hide this things with their family. We are born to enjoy with our family, I had requested the O.P to spend time with family. Only the family members remember us after our death into this world. Even friends will forget us after getting a new person like us, after our death.
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November 26, 2022, 08:41:11 AM
We may think it is unfair to the man's family, but maybe there is some truth in his thoughts. He may want to teach his family to keep trying even though they already have a lot of money and do nothing but enjoy their winnings. Hopefully, he can tell his family about his big win so they can celebrate it and change his life for good.

lying is wrong, it doesn't matter if people in the family are people but, they are people who would spend all the money, they are people who could rob him or even kill him for money, he cannot lie to them, that is wrong. This is the point I disagree with his attitude. the instant he lies then he is teaching his family members to lie, if his family members won the money and didn't tell him anything? would he be happy the day he found out? this is another point. I believe this guy just doesn't like his family, he wanted to eat his money alone because he has the bad thought that he shouldn't spend his money with his family

He can also advise his family not to waste his winnings and try to prepare better for his future. The money was very much and could support the man's family well, but if not used properly, it would not give any results.

if he was an honest person he could have done that, because the money is in his bank account so how the hell would the family spend so much if he controls all the money himself? and that makes no sense and leads me to think that this guy doesn't like his family and that this was his opportunity to leave the family, he wanted the family to live badly because then they would get tired and leave, this trick has been played by many bad people and when they are discovered they always use arguments that they were hiding to protect the family because they would spend all the money, it's all a lie

Let's be real here if this gambler does not have a cockroach in his cupboard then why should he be insisting on restricting his family from knowing about his fame of luck, i so much believe that whenever we had a breaking news to give what comes our mind first is our family, that kind of eagerness to get home and make the breaking news, but inhis case i think things weren't going as expected with his family but i admires his privacy decision but go against it the same way since his concentration about it was his family, his kind of gambler is rare.

maybe the guy had another wife, this kind of behavior comes from people who have another wife and another house, that's why he didn't want everyone to know that he made a lot of money, when a person lies a lot and hides a lot, he always tries not to show up in public and always hides everything in his life, a man who loves his family and is happy would not hide anything from his family
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November 26, 2022, 08:27:23 AM
Or is it the other way around? He cares more for his family, especially the child, with that huge amount of money, the child might get overwhelmed and eventually become indeed a lazy child. We never knew how much of a disciple this father is putting to his family to make them a successful people in the future.
As long as this man was using the money to his family as his priority, I don't see anything wrong with hiding the money from them.
I do not think that hiding this information from his wife is a good idea, the kid does not need to know exactly how much money their parents have, as that is not something a kid should know, but this is not the case for his wife.

How can they take the best decision possible for themselves and their small family if the wife is being hidden such an important fact? Also something like this is impossible to hide for long and once she discovers this she will most likely divorce him.
I will marry the woman I love and trust is the main reason I love her, if I keep big things secret like having big money or winning the huge jackpot how can she believe and be willing to live life with me, so I agree with you that what this man did was a mistake, it's only natural if he hides his identity from other people but from his wife and children it's not fair and it's a clear mistake.

What if he has trust issues with his wife? I'm sure he has a good reason for keeping it from his wife, but all of us here (married people) really trust our wives because we marry them, and everything we get is that we inform our wives because we have no reason to hide it.

This is also my speculation as to why he hides his identity(this just came up to my mind). What are your thoughts on this?
  • He doesn't trust his wife (they have family problems)
  • Planning to have a divorce
  • or he will surprise them privately

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November 26, 2022, 08:22:53 AM
Let's be real here if this gambler does not have a cockroach in his cupboard then why should he be insisting on restricting his family from knowing about his fame of luck, i so much believe that whenever we had a breaking news to give what comes our mind first is our family, that kind of eagerness to get home and make the breaking news, but inhis case i think things weren't going as expected with his family but i admires his privacy decision but go against it the same way since his concentration about it was his family, his kind of gambler is rare.
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November 26, 2022, 07:29:23 AM
I just want to add that in some countries, lottery winners are revealed in public because of transparency issues. I just don't know what specific countries are those. But as far as my knowledge on that is concerned, it's only the lottery as the gambling type that has cases of revealing winners.

Outside the lottery or other gambling types, there are no cases I  heard that winners are revealed. And if we refer to online gambling sites, that is something we can't expect even if there's no privacy data act or something regulations like that.

Lotteries require public transparency because the ticket issuers aren't incurring any risk when people purchase tickets, so it'd be easy to hand select a winner. Other types of gambling, such as playing on a betting platform, require the same transparency between the platform and the player but that transparency can be private because the only money at risk is the individual player. If the player's inclined, they can request proof that the game they're playing on isn't rigged.

Realistically, you could incorporate blockchain tech into lottery systems to make them anonymous and transparent and I've seen some online betting platforms pull this off. Haven't yet seen a country adopt a blockchain lottery system yet.
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November 26, 2022, 06:25:41 AM
Or is it the other way around? He cares more for his family, especially the child, with that huge amount of money, the child might get overwhelmed and eventually become indeed a lazy child. We never knew how much of a disciple this father is putting to his family to make them a successful people in the future.
As long as this man was using the money to his family as his priority, I don't see anything wrong with hiding the money from them.
I do not think that hiding this information from his wife is a good idea, the kid does not need to know exactly how much money their parents have, as that is not something a kid should know, but this is not the case for his wife.

How can they take the best decision possible for themselves and their small family if the wife is being hidden such an important fact? Also something like this is impossible to hide for long and once she discovers this she will most likely divorce him.
I will marry the woman I love and trust is the main reason I love her, if I keep big things secret like having big money or winning the huge jackpot how can she believe and be willing to live life with me, so I agree with you that what this man did was a mistake, it's only natural if he hides his identity from other people but from his wife and children it's not fair and it's a clear mistake.
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November 26, 2022, 03:57:26 AM
Indeed, we do not know the history of his family and his entourage, perhaps there is some story that caused such an approach on the part of the winner with such a large win, I think time will pass and everything will become clear.
It could be what the winner thinks will happen to his family, especially if they have seen how much money the man has made.
This can lead to the desire to buy various things that his family does not really need so he thinks he doesn't need to tell them about it.
If he really could keep it a secret from his family, he could have managed his money well and prepared better for his future.
But whatever it was, he'd better think about it carefully because it's related to the fate of his family and by using the winning money wisely, he could have an even better life in the future.
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November 25, 2022, 11:01:03 PM
This isn't fair to the man's family. I really don't know the financial background if the man's family before the winning but $30 million is a whole lot of money not to make someone lazy and if thinking your family will be lazy because of the money then that isn't reasonable enough.
I would have accepted an excuse that the money might make his family go wide not lazy because you don't expect a family who might not have had a good financial record before now and maybe struggling to make ends before the win to still work extremely hard after winning such amount of money.
$30 million when converted to my local currency is a whole lot of money and also a life and destiny changing amount of money and certainly I wouldn't have to see my family having to work so hard after such a huge winning.

How can you say it is unfair while you have no idea about the winner's whole family? A lot of money can change people in seconds, he decided to hide it means he knows that something bad may happen if his family knows about this huge amount of money. Maybe I'll do the same as what he did but it does not mean that I wont share the money at all. Perhaps I'll create a scenario like starting a business and give it to my family to manage it so the money will be used wisely than just giving it away in form of cash.
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