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Quote from: Marykeller on November 05, 2022, 08:31:52 AM

Money won from the lottery money has done more harm than good. I remember an old man who won 150 million dollars. After 2 years, his wife and children hated him and left him alone in his big mansion. He was asked if he had any regrets, and he said yes. His biggest regret was winning that lottery money. The old man was living wayward until he exhausted all the money. Imagine someone who's paying $20k to prostitutes per night and buying cars which he will leave unlocked for them to be stolen.

You're right about this mate, it's not all about winning big amounts and at the end if it all there's nothing to show forth, many of the gamblers who had this rare kind of opportunities have returned back to their starting point after sone years of misappropriation of the funds, this is most regrettable than not winning at all, I don't blame them to an extent because alot of factors have contributed to their predicament and such is one of the contending issue about privacy that we are discussing on this thread, if everyone knows I've won big then alot of things were at stake, but from the example given, i don't think family should be exempted from knowing this kind of fortune.

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Money won from the lottery money has done more harm than good. I remember an old man who won 150 million dollars. After 2 years, his wife and children hated him and left him alone in his big mansion. He was asked if he had any regrets, and he said yes. His biggest regret was winning that lottery money. The old man was living wayward until he exhausted all the money. Imagine someone who's paying $20k to prostitutes per night and buying cars which he will leave unlocked for them to be stolen.

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Quote from: Wexnident on November 03, 2022, 08:06:30 PM

Idk man looked like he just used his wife and child as an excuse, and his original goal is, well, really, his privacy. The wife and child may also be part of the bigger idea but it isn't everything I guess, other family members, friends, heck even random people by the road may be a part of it. I do wonder if he's able to actually hide it for so long and where he's planning to spend it. If it was a backup investment for his children in the future then it's rather understandable why he sees no need to tell it to his family.

We know that if the winner does not want to inform his family of the large amount that he won, that is his right first of all, we do not know the reason for this person, but even so, this reason may not be a good goal. or it can also be a good goal because it is not hidden from the knowledge of the majority that many think badly of the person who won a large amount of money, especially if they are one of their relatives.

But often the reason for things like that is, of course, his own family, wife, and children, for sure he thinks carefully about how to use what he won and he doesn't want it to just go to anything like other winners but it's not used in a good way.

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Quote from: goinmerry on November 04, 2022, 04:12:42 PM

I just want to add that in some countries, lottery winners are revealed in public because of transparency issues. I just don't know what specific countries are those. But as far as my knowledge on that is concerned, it's only the lottery as the gambling type that has cases of revealing winners.

Outside the lottery or other gambling types, there are no cases I heard that winners are revealed. And if we refer to online gambling sites, that is something we can't expect even if there's no privacy data act or something regulations like that.

One of the cons on letting winners cover up their faces is that there's no transparency and its true that there are places on the world which these kind of set up cant really be that possible.It would be raising up questions in relation with transparency but in most case winners are free on what they do asked out or request.In the situation of that man who had won millions then i do understand his point
for its family members to become lazy which it is likely to happen but we know that their part of the family which they do have the right to know on whats happening inside of it.
If you do really mind about being honest then you would really be telling them but if not then you would really be keeping it as a secret but i do agree on that winners point
and he has the right on doing that.

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Quote from: Oasisman on November 04, 2022, 05:12:34 AM

Quote from: Renampun on November 02, 2022, 09:41:05 PM

The man's reasoning is reasonable, but in my personal opinion this is an irresponsible act, he should as a husband, be honest with his wife or children and even if they turn into lazy, he just needs to educate them hard.

what do you think, is the man's action right or if you experience it (win a big jackpot) will you do as the man did or even be honest with your victory to your family??

Nah, it's also not good to say that what he have done is an irresponsible action. First of all, you were never in his shoes. So, you don't have the slightest idea what he have been through and what action plan is taking into.

True but sometimes we can feel that there is something more behind those reasons Grin

. Take note, the guy is ready to lie about his winnings to his family so definitely there is a huge chance that he is also lying about the reason why he doesn't want his family to know his money.

Quote from: Oasisman on November 04, 2022, 05:12:34 AM

I don't see anything wrong with keeping it secret with his family as long as they are always gonna be the priority when it comes to finances.

It is his right so we cannot question that but it is unethical to keep a secret from your wife when you know it will alleviate the feelings and remove pressure and stress coming from financial shortage.

Quote from: Oasisman on November 04, 2022, 05:12:34 AM

It's also not advisable to open it up with your children especially when they're not mature enough to understand the risk.

Keeping it away from the knowledge of children is reasonable but with your wife? Maybe we have different cultures since I grow up seeing my father giving all his money earned from his job to my mother. So the action of the guy is a taboo to me.

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I just want to add that in some countries, lottery winners are revealed in public because of transparency issues. I just don't know what specific countries are those. But as far as my knowledge on that is concerned, it's only the lottery as the gambling type that has cases of revealing winners.

Outside the lottery or other gambling types, there are no cases I heard that winners are revealed. And if we refer to online gambling sites, that is something we can't expect even if there's no privacy data act or something regulations like that.

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Quote from: Renampun on November 02, 2022, 09:41:05 PM

The man's reasoning is reasonable, but in my personal opinion this is an irresponsible act, he should as a husband, be honest with his wife or children and even if they turn into lazy, he just needs to educate them hard.

I would not be able to claim that the man is irresponsible act just for doing so. even without the results of that gamble, I think, maybe he has become a husband and a responsible father at the same time. And there might be some reasons he doesn't really want to reveal. but for sure, he has his own privacy and we respect that. regardless of the reason behind it. I personally will also do the same thing by not revealing my identity when receiving the rewards for several reasons related to privacy and identity, although if it were me, I myself would also explain to my wife and children. However, we cannot judge that an action is an irresponsible act.

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Quote from: o48o on November 04, 2022, 07:50:09 AM

Quote from: Renampun on November 02, 2022, 09:41:05 PM

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what do you think, is the man's action right or if you experience it (win a big jackpot) will you do as the man did or even be honest with your victory to your family??

Aside the fact that privacy should be obviously essential, his reasoning is secondary issue and legality of his decision to keep money away from his wife depends by the regional laws and what type of marriage contract they have.

Honesty on the other hand is just matter of his personal moral, and are subjective to his personal situation. Personally i wouldn't keep any secrets in my marriage (not to mention secrets of this magnitude).

Maybe he just really don't want to let them know yet? that's why he did that or maybe he really doesn't want his family to know what happen maybe there's a big problem in their marriage maybe that one could probably one of the reason. but I still believe that he just did that because he will save the money first and make a time deposit for that so in the future theh will have money to used with.

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Quote from: Renampun on November 02, 2022, 09:41:05 PM

this is a good topic [Gambling house responisbilty to protect people data] and it should be mandatory for gambling houses to keep user privacy safe but there is something interesting that I saw in a tweet;

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The man's reasoning is reasonable, but in my personal opinion this is an irresponsible act, he should as a husband, be honest with his wife or children and even if they turn into lazy, he just needs to educate them hard.

what do you think, is the man's action right or if you experience it (win a big jackpot) will you do as the man did or even be honest with your victory to your family??

I like how the story turned into a comedy lol. However, his own perception in life might something I want to disagree. Either he’s facing victory or not, the family should always be the first to know. It’s like in gambling, as to where your money will go if you keep it secret to your own family? For me, this is more being selfish on a gambler’s mind, but in an indirect way.

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Quote from: Renampun on November 02, 2022, 09:41:05 PM

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what do you think, is the man's action right or if you experience it (win a big jackpot) will you do as the man did or even be honest with your victory to your family??

Aside the fact that privacy should be obviously essential, his reasoning is secondary issue and legality of his decision to keep money away from his wife depends by the regional laws and what type of marriage contract they have.

Honesty on the other hand is just matter of his personal moral, and are subjective to his personal situation. Personally i wouldn't keep any secrets in my marriage (not to mention secrets of this magnitude).

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Quote from: Renampun on November 02, 2022, 09:41:05 PM

The man's reasoning is reasonable, but in my personal opinion this is an irresponsible act, he should as a husband, be honest with his wife or children and even if they turn into lazy, he just needs to educate them hard.

what do you think, is the man's action right or if you experience it (win a big jackpot) will you do as the man did or even be honest with your victory to your family??

Nah, it's also not good to say that what he have done is an irresponsible action. First of all, you were never in his shoes. So, you don't have the slightest idea what he have been through and what action plan is taking into.
I don't see anything wrong with keeping it secret with his family as long as they are always gonna be the priority when it comes to finances.
It's also not advisable to open it up with your children especially when they're not mature enough to understand the risk.

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Quote from: yazher on November 04, 2022, 04:33:29 AM

The guy probably disciplining his children to be able to stand on their own with the little money they have and this is the best dad I've ever know because he knows exactly what's gonna happen if he spoiled them with those money and he is just doing the best he can as a father for better or for worse. This time, he is in a better state, doing all the jobs to make his wife and kids happy with letting them know he got those money from his hard work every day. What a clever man!

But what about being a Husband to His wife? because he might be disciplining his children but what about His wife? is there something about disciplining also? Grin

but what is his plans here? I hope this will be for betterment of His family, from wife and children .

and also Congratulations for this huge wins.

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Quote from: peter0425 on November 04, 2022, 03:29:17 AM

It is not fair for the wife and of course the children because they are supposed to know everything .

but at least the Winner has a better plans to let the family taste that said huge win , but the identity of the person needs to be hidden from everybody aside from His own wife Grin

but that serves me something to think and there is a catch from the winner after this.

Maybe he knows that he's wife will spread out the information about what he's going recently that's why he decide to shut up so that no one in their neighborhood or their friends will know about he win in a lottery since it could endanger their lives.

For sure when the news about the winner of the lotto will be silent and many people forget about those good event for sure slowly by slowly he will tell it to his wife that he won a huge amount of money.

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The guy probably disciplining his children to be able to stand on their own with the little money they have and this is the best dad I've ever know because he knows exactly what's gonna happen if he spoiled them with those money and he is just doing the best he can as a father for better or for worse. This time, he is in a better state, doing all the jobs to make his wife and kids happy with letting them know he got those money from his hard work every day. What a clever man!

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Quote from: peter0425 on November 04, 2022, 03:29:17 AM

It is not fair for the wife and of course the children because they are supposed to know everything .

but at least the Winner has a better plans to let the family taste that said huge win , but the identity of the person needs to be hidden from everybody aside from His own wife Grin

but that serves me something to think and there is a catch from the winner after this.

Yeah, there's a catch pretty sure. And we really do not know what kind of wife and child he has. There are plenty of women that are talkative and his wife might share their secret with her close friends and relatives. His child might be too young or even if not, the risk of sharing the information to its close friends is possible. The man won the lottery, so I just believe that he decides what he think is best for him and his family. No man would plan badly for his own family unless they're estranged or he has separated from them already.

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It is not fair for the wife and of course the children because they are supposed to know everything .

but at least the Winner has a better plans to let the family taste that said huge win , but the identity of the person needs to be hidden from everybody aside from His own wife Grin

but that serves me something to think and there is a catch from the winner after this.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on November 04, 2022, 03:00:07 AM

I always thought and said that its very reasonable to hide your identity if you won something like millions in such opportunity. Because many relatives and neighbors or even people knowing you, will try to contact you. They will definitely try to exploit you. But family? I think its really cruel if you hide it from your own family. Family is above anything in my opinion, so I can't support this idea. People deserve to be lazy if they sit on huge pile of money.

We may not know why he wants to be anonymous, it may be because of the first reason that you mentioned that he do not want friends and some other relatives to know about it just to avoid them, but if truly it is because of his wife and children, that is not good but very bad. People that has money are not lazy, the way they approach life will only just be different, no one can be lazy towards having more money, but the poor people always think differently from the rich people and as he won, he still have poor mentality until he he mingle with some rich people.

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I always thought and said that its very reasonable to hide your identity if you won something like millions in such opportunity. Because many relatives and neighbors or even people knowing you, will try to contact you. They will definitely try to exploit you. But family? I think its really cruel if you hide it from your own family. Family is above anything in my opinion, so I can't support this idea. People deserve to be lazy if they sit on huge pile of money.

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Quote from: Renampun on November 02, 2022, 09:41:05 PM

The man's reasoning is reasonable, but in my personal opinion this is an irresponsible act, he should as a husband, be honest with his wife or children and even if they turn into lazy, he just needs to educate them hard.

what do you think, is the man's action right or if you experience it (win a big jackpot) will you do as the man did or even be honest with your victory to your family??

I think the reason is reasonable and is still in the reasonable stage. If he wants to educate his wife and children, it really has nothing to do with whether he can win a lot of money or whether he doesn't gamble at all because to educate his wife and children, he doesn't need the big wins that he already has. I think the man's actions are right and if I were that man, I would tell my family and ask them not to tell anyone else, especially our extended family, because it can cause envy among them.

Or maybe I will not say anything about my winnings and will act as usual, as if nothing happened and I will put the money in the bank or invest in crypto Grin

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Quote from: bittraffic on November 03, 2022, 08:15:42 PM

Quote from: Woodie on November 03, 2022, 05:29:29 PM

Am certain he was not being truth to say the wife would be lazy if she knew of the $$$, am sure his hiding his prize money from family and friends that are more likely to pester him for a share from those millions... But i like his costume it gives him some privacy and continuity of his old life style if he chooses to lay low!

If people learn you have $30M, everyone will pretend to be their long distant relative. It wouldn't even be surprising that even the old girlfriend of his dad comes claiming he has a brother. Turning down these relatives asking for handouts will only create tensions between them so its better to just keep things secret. In China, $30M is more than enough to live a high life.

You made me laugh! $30M is enough to live the highest life all over the world, so it is not peculiar to China. But it's reasonable if one would use it well in diversified investments so that they will always be making more money from it for life.

Aside from this, I don't think that the thought that people would be bothering one for money should be the reason to keep privacy, once you channel the money to an investment, you might even be left with just $25,000 which you explain to posters for them to take their eyes off you.

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