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Topic: Game-Protect.com did not refund my money and stopped replying to my emails - page 6. (Read 4722 times)

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Thank you for confirming that a written contract does not exist, because written contracts require signatures from both parties and I am not able to see any! Cheesy

Look it is simple, real world people who have studied law do not spam signatures for cents! Cheesy



Look it is simple, real world people who have studied law do not spam signatures for cents! Cheesy

They don't borrow 10€ neither.. Roll Eyes
Real world people who have studied law ask to lend BTC worth 10€ if they do not have any on hand! Roll Eyes



OP, I suggest you to create a red flag against GP, I will support the flag. Since it was a written contract with you, I would suggest you to go with flag type 3.

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This user violated a written contract with me, resulting in damages.


Start to create the flag against game-protect from here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;addflag=874254

I will tag him using this post reference and I hope in future no one else falls the victim of game-protect.
The biggest mistake online casino victims can do is listen to extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk accounts! Cheesy

Please show the written contract? Grin

From src: https://www.upcounsel.com/is-an-email-legally-binding

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Most people think of contracts as being formal agreements put into writing and signed by the parties concerned, often with lawyers present, but the fact of the matter is that a contract is merely an agreement between multiple parties concerning an exchange of items of value, and the physical form of the contract is not so important.

Therefore, in theory, a contract could be written upon a napkin just as well as watermarked paper, so long as the terms were stated clearly and agreed to, and oral or verbal contracts are not unheard of (though difficult to enforce and frowned upon by many).

One of the common misconceptions concerning contracts is that a signature is required for a contract to be binding, while actually, all that is required is for both parties to agree upon the terms set out.

This has also been confirmed by the New York Supreme Court along with other courts around the world.

Src: https://www.forbes.com/sites/oliverherzfeld/2013/12/09/are-your-emails-enforceable-contracts/#78e9be184f8a

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Appellate Division stated: “given the now widespread use of email as a form of written communication in both personal and business affairs, it would be unreasonable to conclude that email messages are incapable of conforming to the criteria of [New York law] simply because they cannot be physically signed in a traditional fashion.”

Simply the words "Game Protect wrote" within your email exchange is enough to be deemed a signature within the eyes of the law. Don't believe me, google it. There are countless cases around the world where *real* judges have deemed that email exchanges without formal signing are still deemed as valid evidence and are held up in the eyes of the law as contracts.

At the end of the day, if you want to argue the verbiage of BitcoinTalk, that's fine. But it still does not defeat the fact that you did not make h4ns wholesome with regards to your obligations towards him/her. Period. You scammed h4ns.
legendary
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Everyone else in this thread understands it - except G-P
Well I do not believe that he does not understand. He is just another level stupid who thinks pretending is going to give him some edge. May be some day he will realize that for him the entire business is facing this reputation problem assuming the game-protect.com is a company.
legendary
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OP, I suggest you to create a red flag against GP, I will support the flag. Since it was a written contract with you, I would suggest you to go with flag type 3.

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This user violated a written contract with me, resulting in damages.


Start to create the flag against game-protect from here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;addflag=874254

I will tag him using this post reference and I hope in future no one else falls the victim of game-protect.
The biggest mistake online casino victims can do is listen to extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk accounts! Cheesy

Please show the written contract? Grin

It is all referenced here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/game-protectcom-did-not-refund-my-money-and-stopped-replying-to-my-emails-5183189

It is all stated in the flag text:



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=874254

Everyone else in this thread understands it - except G-P
legendary
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[...] written contracts require signatures from both parties and I am not able to see any! Cheesy
This is blatantly false. I have no idea whether you know that or not as it's 50/50 as to whether you do know that, but are just being deceptive, or whether you are simply just dumb.

There are plenty of jurisdictions in which promises made in correspondence or verbal agreement can be considered a written contract with or without a signature. And in the jurisdictions where it's not considered a "written contract", it can still be considered implied, and so you would still receive a red flag on this forum.

Arguing over the nuance of whether or not the contract was 'written' rather than as to whether or not you scammed him shows how much of a low-life you are.
legendary
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Thank you for confirming that a written contract does not exist, because written contracts require signatures from both parties and I am not able to see any! Cheesy

Look it is simple, real world people who have studied law do not spam signatures for cents! Cheesy

You don't get to be a weasel and not get griefed here. Sorry.
hero member
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Thank you for confirming that a written contract does not exist, because written contracts require signatures from both parties and I am not able to see any! Cheesy

Look it is simple, real world people who have studied law do not spam signatures for cents! Cheesy



Look it is simple, real world people who have studied law do not spam signatures for cents! Cheesy

They don't borrow 10€ neither.. Roll Eyes
Real world people who have studied law ask to lend BTC worth 10€ if they do not have any on hand! Roll Eyes



OP, I suggest you to create a red flag against GP, I will support the flag. Since it was a written contract with you, I would suggest you to go with flag type 3.

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This user violated a written contract with me, resulting in damages.


Start to create the flag against game-protect from here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;addflag=874254

I will tag him using this post reference and I hope in future no one else falls the victim of game-protect.
The biggest mistake online casino victims can do is listen to extremely mentally ill and or brain dead bitcointalk accounts! Cheesy

Please show the written contract? Grin
legendary
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3) Please show the written contract?


You wrote this, right? Writing this or things to this effect creates something with equivalence to a written contract in many jurisdictions, there have been court cases won over things scrawled on napkins before so an email with an explicit promise like that would definitely be upheld in a court.

You've already shown that you have no regard for the law except for stupid copy pastes that are irrelevant to the context of the situation, though.
hero member
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Also, you are the least trusted person (most distrusted) on this forum.
His BPIP profile is ridiculously out of date*. His trust value under the old system actually stands at a whopping -549,755,813,888. One more tag and he'll become the first red trust trillionaire! Grin (Maybe that's the achievement he's aiming for.)

*His negative trust is high enough to trigger a 32-bit integer overflow, so maybe it's straight-up crashing Vod's parser. Undecided
The trust of who on this forum did I breach and how?


If you click your mouse on the word 'here' in your scam flag, it's a link to all the details.  Just click your mouse on it.

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h4ns alleges: game-protect violated a written contract, resulting in damages, in the specific act referenced here.
1) In the real world, around July 2019 is not a day! Roll Eyes

2) In the real world, asking to lend BTC worth 10€ is not a scam! Roll Eyes

(September 3rd) My suspicion substantiated when he asked me to borrow him €10. For the second time.

3) Please show the written contract?
legendary
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Also, you are the least trusted person (most distrusted) on this forum.
His BPIP profile is ridiculously out of date*. His trust value under the old system actually stands at a whopping -549,755,813,888. One more tag and he'll become the first red trust trillionaire! Grin (Maybe that's the achievement he's aiming for.)

*His negative trust is high enough to trigger a 32-bit integer overflow, so maybe it's straight-up crashing Vod's parser. Undecided

Woah Shocked What an achievement indeed and it overlaps the 32-bit integer for more than a couple of bits.
Thanks for pointing that out.

True that, I saw the negative feedbacks piling up but have not noticed that the old system score on BPIP wasn't up to date.
We could speculate this is some kind of recognition among crooks; he does that with such an ease he could totally teach a "game-protecting" class.
legendary
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Also, you are the least trusted person (most distrusted) on this forum.
His BPIP profile is ridiculously out of date*. His trust value under the old system actually stands at a whopping -549,755,813,888. One more tag and he'll become the first red trust trillionaire! Grin (Maybe that's the achievement he's aiming for.)

*His negative trust is high enough to trigger a 32-bit integer overflow, so maybe it's straight-up crashing Vod's parser. Undecided
The trust of who on this forum did I breach and how?


If you click your mouse on the word 'here' in your scam flag, it's a link to all the details.  Just click your mouse on it.

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h4ns alleges: game-protect violated a written contract, resulting in damages, in the specific act referenced here.

hero member
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Also, you are the least trusted person (most distrusted) on this forum.
His BPIP profile is ridiculously out of date*. His trust value under the old system actually stands at a whopping -549,755,813,888. One more tag and he'll become the first red trust trillionaire! Grin (Maybe that's the achievement he's aiming for.)

*His negative trust is high enough to trigger a 32-bit integer overflow, so maybe it's straight-up crashing Vod's parser. Undecided
The trust of who on this forum did I breach and how?
legendary
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Also, you are the least trusted person (most distrusted) on this forum.
His BPIP profile is ridiculously out of date*. His trust value under the old system actually stands at a whopping -549,755,813,888. One more tag and he'll become the first red trust trillionaire! Grin (Maybe that's the achievement he's aiming for.)

*His negative trust is high enough to trigger a 32-bit integer overflow, so maybe it's straight-up crashing Vod's parser. Undecided
hero member
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Also, you are the least trusted person (most distrusted) on this forum.
The trust of who on this forum did I breach and how?
legendary
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You support that a written contract was violated around July 2019, please show the written contract?

You can't read.
There's no point to reply to you. You are a waste of time.

Keep on lurking for preys.
This is going to get more difficult with this :


Also, you are the least trusted person (most distrusted) on this forum.
This is somewhat an achievement considering TradeFortress and Pirateat40 used this forum as well.

Congrats. Your mom must be so proud of you.
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You support that a written contract was violated around July 2019, please show the written contract?

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h4ns alleges: game-protect violated a written contract, resulting in damages, in the specific act referenced here. game-protect did not make the victims of this act roughly whole, AND it is not the case that all of the victims forgave the act. It is not grossly inaccurate to say that the act occurred around July 2019. No previously-created flag covers this same act, unless the flag was created with inaccurate data preventing its acceptance.
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Spear the bees
@Game Protect

I would like to remind you that I give you the chance to make a statement on this. I also would like you to know that I give you four weeks to refund the money but you have to commit to it now. If you promise to do so, I won't create a red flag. It's not my intention to judge or to blame you for your actions but if you neither reply nor refund the money you leave me no choice.
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§ 253 blackmail

(1) Who unlawfully forces a person by force or by threat of a sensitive evil to an act, toleration or omission and thereby inflicts the property of the coerced or other disadvantage, in order to enrich himself or a third party wrongfully, is imprisoned until to five years or punishable by a fine.

(2) It is unlawful if the use of force or the threat of evil for the intended purpose is to be regarded as reprehensible.

(3) The attempt is punishable.

(4) In particularly severe cases the sentence is imprisonment not less than one year. 2A particularly serious case is usually when the perpetrator acts commercially or as a member of a gang that has linked to the continued persecution of blackmail.

I'm laughing at this, you really cannot be acting this stupidly on purpose.
It looks like h4ns can be acting that stupidly on purpose to publicly extort Game Protect! Grin
You are just an amazing stand-up act in and of yourself. Perhaps it's time for a career change.
hero member
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@Game Protect

I would like to remind you that I give you the chance to make a statement on this. I also would like you to know that I give you four weeks to refund the money but you have to commit to it now. If you promise to do so, I won't create a red flag. It's not my intention to judge or to blame you for your actions but if you neither reply nor refund the money you leave me no choice.
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§ 253 blackmail

(1) Who unlawfully forces a person by force or by threat of a sensitive evil to an act, toleration or omission and thereby inflicts the property of the coerced or other disadvantage, in order to enrich himself or a third party wrongfully, is imprisoned until to five years or punishable by a fine.

(2) It is unlawful if the use of force or the threat of evil for the intended purpose is to be regarded as reprehensible.

(3) The attempt is punishable.

(4) In particularly severe cases the sentence is imprisonment not less than one year. 2A particularly serious case is usually when the perpetrator acts commercially or as a member of a gang that has linked to the continued persecution of blackmail.

I'm laughing at this, you really cannot be acting this stupidly on purpose.
It looks like h4ns can be acting that stupidly on purpose to publicly extort Game Protect! Grin
legendary
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@Game Protect

I would like to remind you that I give you the chance to make a statement on this. I also would like you to know that I give you four weeks to refund the money but you have to commit to it now. If you promise to do so, I won't create a red flag. It's not my intention to judge or to blame you for your actions but if you neither reply nor refund the money you leave me no choice.
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§ 253 blackmail

(1) Who unlawfully forces a person by force or by threat of a sensitive evil to an act, toleration or omission and thereby inflicts the property of the coerced or other disadvantage, in order to enrich himself or a third party wrongfully, is imprisoned until to five years or punishable by a fine.

(2) It is unlawful if the use of force or the threat of evil for the intended purpose is to be regarded as reprehensible.

(3) The attempt is punishable.

(4) In particularly severe cases the sentence is imprisonment not less than one year. 2A particularly serious case is usually when the perpetrator acts commercially or as a member of a gang that has linked to the continued persecution of blackmail.
I'm laughing at this, you really cannot be acting this stupidly on purpose. You must know exactly what you're doing. No-one would really be dumb enough to think that this qualifies as blackmail - it literally says in the "law" you quoted that there is a higher standard required for it to be blackmail than "give me my stuff back or I'll tell people you're a scammer". Not sure in what world that counts asa "reprehensible" or "sensitive evil"...
hero member
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None of this suggests you didn't scam your customer. You said you were going to refund him. You lied. You are a scammer. Nothing else is pertinent to this matter.
Based on the statements and documents published by h4ns you conclude that I scammed him?

That, and your own words.
Based on the statements and documents h4ns published, are you able to determine at what day and how the scam happened?


You acknowledged you owe this person money,
Please quote where I aknowledged that I owe this person money?

Also kind reminder:

and then threaten to sue them when they complain about it online.

Please quote where I threatened h4ns to sue him if he complain about it online?
legendary
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^^^

None of this suggests you didn't scam your customer. You said you were going to refund him. You lied. You are a scammer. Nothing else is pertinent to this matter.
Based on the statements and documents published by h4ns you conclude that I scammed him?

That, and your own words. You acknowledged you owe this person money, and rather than repay them you made up a fictitious settlement amount to worm your way out of repayment.

cut off communication with them
h4ns does not want my further assistance:

(September 3rd) I immediately asked him to refund my money. But his only reaction was that he closed the tickets of my pending cases which generated an automatic email notification.

It sounds like you decided for them they didn't want further assistance. You said you would refund this person. You didn't. You are a scammer.

and then threaten to sue them when they complain about it online.
Please quote where I threatened h4ns to sue him if he complain about it online?

It is clear that if I have your identity and location you will be held liable for any damage caused by your illegal activity! Wink

You going to use the same lawyer that forced a company that had already vanished with everyone's money to declare bankruptcy?
No, I will engage a lawyer in the country were h4ns is resident.

Yes, the court will confirm that h4ns has to compensate the estimated damage caused by his defamation campaign that Game Protect is a scammer! Smiley

The only uncertain part is how much compensation the court will confirm.

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h4ns should have better listened to my advice: "The biggest mistake online casino victims can do is listen to extremely mentally ill bitcointalk accounts!" Cheesy

Too bad he didn't realize that you were actually talking about yourself.
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