Gateless Gate Sharp 1.3.8: 30Mh/s (Ethash) on RX 480! - page 138.

h311m4n

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Quote from: zawawa on May 01, 2017, 07:39:21 AM

It has been so much fun developing GG with you guys (and gals) and I am immensely grateful.
However, it would be practically impossible to keep up with Claymore when s/he is presumably making $50000+/month
and I'm totally broke. I did everything I could do, but, sadly, the community made a collective choice, and I had to
make decisions accordingly. I still continue development, though. It is just that I have different priorities now.

Shame mate, as I said before, I left the fees on. But I guess when you make the choice to let people remove the fees, what you get is a lot of greed. Probably why claymore made his/her miner closed source.

Oh well, I'm still using GG on my monero rig so you should still get a few $ your way Wink

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Quote from: zawawa on May 01, 2017, 08:55:10 AM

Quote from: Jdope on May 01, 2017, 08:37:45 AM

Quote from: zawawa on May 01, 2017, 07:39:21 AM

It has been so much fun developing GG with you guys (and gals) and I am immensely grateful.
However, it would be practically impossible to keep up with Claymore when s/he is presumably making $50000+/month
and I'm totally broke. I did everything I could do, but, sadly, the community made a collective choice, and I had to
make decisions accordingly. I still continue development, though. It is just that I have different priorities now.

You have to prioritize what's best for you, I think everyone would understand that. If its not any trouble to you, can you guide me to resources I can learn on miner development? Working with Cryptos in general. I can code in c++ (not a professional but getting there) along with some python, JavaScript and others. I would be super grateful.

I would recommend reading the source code of the original SILENTARMY:

https://github.com/mbevand/silentarmy

It is very clean and the back-end is written in Python.

If you are interested in the GCN assembly, you might find my previous project useful:

https://github.com/meriken/merikens-tripcode-engine-v3

The last time I checked, it was the fastest implementation of Bitslice DES.
It is not the most readable code out there, though.

Thanks! I'm still not up to speed in the assembly department, but i'll definitely take a look at that python code!

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Quote from: Jdope on May 01, 2017, 08:37:45 AM

Quote from: zawawa on May 01, 2017, 07:39:21 AM

It has been so much fun developing GG with you guys (and gals) and I am immensely grateful.
However, it would be practically impossible to keep up with Claymore when s/he is presumably making $50000+/month
and I'm totally broke. I did everything I could do, but, sadly, the community made a collective choice, and I had to
make decisions accordingly. I still continue development, though. It is just that I have different priorities now.

You have to prioritize what's best for you, I think everyone would understand that. If its not any trouble to you, can you guide me to resources I can learn on miner development? Working with Cryptos in general. I can code in c++ (not a professional but getting there) along with some python, JavaScript and others. I would be super grateful.

I would recommend reading the source code of the original SILENTARMY:

https://github.com/mbevand/silentarmy

It is very clean and the back-end is written in Python.

If you are interested in the GCN assembly, you might find my previous project useful:

https://github.com/meriken/merikens-tripcode-engine-v3

The last time I checked, it was the fastest implementation of Bitslice DES.
It is not the most readable code out there, though.

Jdope

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Quote from: zawawa on May 01, 2017, 07:39:21 AM

It has been so much fun developing GG with you guys (and gals) and I am immensely grateful.
However, it would be practically impossible to keep up with Claymore when s/he is presumably making $50000+/month
and I'm totally broke. I did everything I could do, but, sadly, the community made a collective choice, and I had to
make decisions accordingly. I still continue development, though. It is just that I have different priorities now.

You have to prioritize what's best for you, I think everyone would understand that. If its not any trouble to you, can you guide me to resources I can learn on miner development? Working with Cryptos in general. I can code in c++ (not a professional but getting there) along with some python, JavaScript and others. I would be super grateful.

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Quote from: zawawa on May 01, 2017, 07:39:21 AM

It has been so much fun developing GG with you guys (and gals) and I am immensely grateful.
However, it would be practically impossible to keep up with Claymore when s/he is presumably making $50000+/month
and I'm totally broke. I did everything I could do, but, sadly, the community made a collective choice, and I had to
make decisions accordingly. I still continue development, though. It is just that I have different priorities now.

You have to prioritize you.. you cant please the whiney bitches on internet, for free!

That said.
Hopefully the new insight you gain from this job enable you to make your own miner, maybe from scratch, with forced but kind fees ^^

Claymore didnt make much before his miner was pretty good and a huge mass of miners used it.
Personally i dont use it much.. as i think its a bit hard on the systems for little gain. Also i hate the interface vs sgminer.

So a mix of taste, greed and other stuff decides what miner i use Cheesy

zawawa

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It has been so much fun developing GG with you guys (and gals) and I am immensely grateful.
However, it would be practically impossible to keep up with Claymore when s/he is presumably making $50000+/month
and I'm totally broke. I did everything I could do, but, sadly, the community made a collective choice, and I had to
make decisions accordingly. I still continue development, though. It is just that I have different priorities now.

frostminer

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Quote from: Stealth8368 on May 01, 2017, 06:49:09 AM

Such a pity development as dried up here and I was sure if zawawa had managed to get golden gate to Claymore speeds and stability the community would have switched and paid a fee just like we do now,look at Claymore earnings and that's what zawawa has passed up to partner with the Dark Side (nicehash) sold your sole zawawa lol but seriously bills need paying and am sure other pressures were involved in decision to work for the Devil lol sorry only messing,good luck zawawa enjoyed your thread and learned so much,your a Legend.

sry, cant get this outta my head

http://images.memes.com/meme/2362.jpg

Stealth8368

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Such a pity development as dried up here and I was sure if zawawa had managed to get golden gate to Claymore speeds and stability the community would have switched and paid a fee just like we do now,look at Claymore earnings and that's what zawawa has passed up to partner with the Dark Side (nicehash) sold your sole zawawa lol but seriously bills need paying and am sure other pressures were involved in decision to work for the Devil lol sorry only messing,good luck zawawa enjoyed your thread and learned so much,your a Legend.

zawawa

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Here are some pretty interesting findings regarding accessing the GPU directly through the PCIe bus:

https://www.codeproject.com/Articles/35378/Access-Physical-Memory-Port-and-PCI-Configuration
http://compile-tips.blogspot.com/2013/12/disassembly-of-gpu-z-i2c-and-gpus.html

The whole idea is to create a digitally-signed driver in a temporary directory when the miner starts, install the driver, and access the PCIe bus from the userspace through that driver. Pretty neat, huh.

zawawa

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Yeah, I have some ideas about how NiceHash is perceived by the community, but they have been reasonable with me so far.
In any case, I would rather write codes and have discussions around them, be it open-source or closed-source.
I'm quite busy working on the new miner right now, but I'm pretty sure this new job has positive effects on GG in the long run.

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Quote from: zawawa on April 26, 2017, 05:22:16 PM

Quote from: kilo17 on April 24, 2017, 10:08:07 PM

Congrats on the job. If it's Nicehash (or G.M) I hope they allow you to continue working on your Open Source stuff although it would shock me.

Well, it is NiceHash. Surprise, surprise... They put me in charge of the OpenCL component of their new miner:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/excavator-by-nicehash-multi-algorithm-nvidia-gpu-miner-156a-1777827

Although it is closed-source, the miner is free-to-use and not tied to NiceHash pools, so I think it is worthwhile. Since I am developing the OpenCL portion from scratch, I am planning to make it as feature-rich and user-friendly as possible with such features as automatic optimizations and dual-/triple-mining.

Now, as for GG, I don't think the NDA I signed prevents me from working on it. Obviously, I cannot reuse the codes and, since NiceHash people are quite generous with the deal, I don't want to do anything to hurt their business interests. We will see.

I am happy for you about the job.

There are 3 things that are certain with Nicehash...

1 - They are extremely greedy. They charge people on Both Sides for renting hashrate.
2 - I am sure they will only release a "public" portion after they have profited from a private or closed portion.
3 - You can be assured that Nicehash will ONLY ALLOW you to put code in GG if it is not faster or better than the code in their miner (for obvious reasons).

I hope they gave you a warm welcome to "The Dark Side" - Cool

Although Open Source Projects are great in theory, they do not pay the bills. Wink

Regardless, I have enjoyed your thread and have found it very useful in my Miner Development learning. I thank you for that and good luck.

yoyo1

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Good news really! Grin

I hope such kind of work will help you to enrich sgminer-gg for amd cards holders.
Another thing I love about it is cool behavior in Ubuntu.

zawawa

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Quote from: kilo17 on April 24, 2017, 10:08:07 PM

Congrats on the job. If it's Nicehash (or G.M) I hope they allow you to continue working on your Open Source stuff although it would shock me.

Well, it is NiceHash. Surprise, surprise... They put me in charge of the OpenCL component of their new miner:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/excavator-by-nicehash-multi-algorithm-nvidia-gpu-miner-156a-1777827

Although it is closed-source, the miner is free-to-use and not tied to NiceHash pools, so I think it is worthwhile. Since I am developing the OpenCL portion from scratch, I am planning to make it as feature-rich and user-friendly as possible with such features as automatic optimizations and dual-/triple-mining.

Now, as for GG, I don't think the NDA I signed prevents me from working on it. Obviously, I cannot reuse the codes and, since NiceHash people are quite generous with the deal, I don't want to do anything to hurt their business interests. We will see.

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Quote from: frostminer on April 25, 2017, 03:32:44 AM

I suggest not using the miner-software for fan control.

that, and wattool + 16.11.4 drivers for rx400

Trimegistus

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Quote from: xeridea on April 25, 2017, 08:42:58 AM

I use Claymore fan control on over 200 cards, they all work fine. Wattman fan control behaves really weirdly, and doesn't seem to work right most the time. It is also a insanely huge PITA to manage on more than 1 card.

Indeed, Claymore works fine. I use WattTool only to set things before mining with GG/sg-miner Cheesy

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Quote from: h311m4n on April 25, 2017, 03:57:00 AM

Quote from: frostminer on April 25, 2017, 03:32:44 AM

Quote from: h311m4n on April 25, 2017, 03:12:28 AM

Quote from: zawawa on April 24, 2017, 09:41:22 PM

I should be able to update GG in a week or two. I will keep you guys updated.
I got a list of AMD engineers who should be able to answer my GDS-related questions:

https://github.com/gpu0/amdgpu-code/issues/1

I really want to be able to manage the hardware at the lowest level. We will see.

Cool!

Btw I left the fee on on my monero rig. May not be much but it's still something that goes your way.

I tried out version pre6b on Windows yesterday for ETH. It's still shy like 1mh from Claymore so I returned to claymore. However, it seems like your miner created havok on my rig's drivers! On Claymore 9.0, some cards were suddenly hashing at like 14Mh/s, but even worse, fan control was no longer working! I had like 3 GPUs burning up to 90°C with fans at 114rpm, luckily I kept an eye on that rig before going to sleep and got it fixed real quick by juste re-installing the driver.

Just thought you might want to know.

Cheers

I stopped using claymore, one of the reasons was seeminly overreporting hashrate.
Genoils reports from the pools were much more steady. Now using a sgminer build or gateless where supported.

I suggest not using the miner-software for fan control.
Most of my rigs use msi afterburner.

What I mean is that usually, you launch your miner and fans adjust themselves depending on the cards temp. In my case, fans just stopped working when I went back to Claymore, I'm not using the miner to control the fans.

I use Claymore fan control on over 200 cards, they all work fine. Wattman fan control behaves really weirdly, and doesn't seem to work right most the time. It is also a insanely huge PITA to manage on more than 1 card.

h311m4n

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Quote from: frostminer on April 25, 2017, 03:32:44 AM

Quote from: h311m4n on April 25, 2017, 03:12:28 AM

Quote from: zawawa on April 24, 2017, 09:41:22 PM

I should be able to update GG in a week or two. I will keep you guys updated.
I got a list of AMD engineers who should be able to answer my GDS-related questions:

https://github.com/gpu0/amdgpu-code/issues/1

I really want to be able to manage the hardware at the lowest level. We will see.

Cool!

Btw I left the fee on on my monero rig. May not be much but it's still something that goes your way.

I tried out version pre6b on Windows yesterday for ETH. It's still shy like 1mh from Claymore so I returned to claymore. However, it seems like your miner created havok on my rig's drivers! On Claymore 9.0, some cards were suddenly hashing at like 14Mh/s, but even worse, fan control was no longer working! I had like 3 GPUs burning up to 90°C with fans at 114rpm, luckily I kept an eye on that rig before going to sleep and got it fixed real quick by juste re-installing the driver.

Just thought you might want to know.

Cheers

I stopped using claymore, one of the reasons was seeminly overreporting hashrate.
Genoils reports from the pools were much more steady. Now using a sgminer build or gateless where supported.

I suggest not using the miner-software for fan control.
Most of my rigs use msi afterburner.

What I mean is that usually, you launch your miner and fans adjust themselves depending on the cards temp. In my case, fans just stopped working when I went back to Claymore, I'm not using the miner to control the fans.

Trimegistus

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Quote from: frostminer on April 25, 2017, 03:32:44 AM

I stopped using claymore, one of the reasons was seeminly overreporting hashrate.
Genoils reports from the pools were much more steady. Now using a sgminer build or gateless where supported.

I suggest not using the miner-software for fan control.
Most of my rigs use msi afterburner.

I'm using this miner on both my 6x480 rigs under Win10 x64 and they work flawlessly as long as I don't use the miner to do any kind of fan/voltage control

I use WattTool to set everything and then I just let the drivers do the job.

I've also had all kinds of problems after using this miner and getting back to another one.

frostminer

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Quote from: h311m4n on April 25, 2017, 03:12:28 AM

Quote from: zawawa on April 24, 2017, 09:41:22 PM

I should be able to update GG in a week or two. I will keep you guys updated.
I got a list of AMD engineers who should be able to answer my GDS-related questions:

https://github.com/gpu0/amdgpu-code/issues/1

I really want to be able to manage the hardware at the lowest level. We will see.

Cool!

Btw I left the fee on on my monero rig. May not be much but it's still something that goes your way.

I tried out version pre6b on Windows yesterday for ETH. It's still shy like 1mh from Claymore so I returned to claymore. However, it seems like your miner created havok on my rig's drivers! On Claymore 9.0, some cards were suddenly hashing at like 14Mh/s, but even worse, fan control was no longer working! I had like 3 GPUs burning up to 90°C with fans at 114rpm, luckily I kept an eye on that rig before going to sleep and got it fixed real quick by juste re-installing the driver.

Just thought you might want to know.

Cheers

I stopped using claymore, one of the reasons was seeminly overreporting hashrate.
Genoils reports from the pools were much more steady. Now using a sgminer build or gateless where supported.

I suggest not using the miner-software for fan control.
Most of my rigs use msi afterburner.

h311m4n

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Quote from: zawawa on April 24, 2017, 09:41:22 PM

I should be able to update GG in a week or two. I will keep you guys updated.
I got a list of AMD engineers who should be able to answer my GDS-related questions:

https://github.com/gpu0/amdgpu-code/issues/1

I really want to be able to manage the hardware at the lowest level. We will see.

Cool!

Btw I left the fee on on my monero rig. May not be much but it's still something that goes your way.

I tried out version pre6b on Windows yesterday for ETH. It's still shy like 1mh from Claymore so I returned to claymore. However, it seems like your miner created havok on my rig's drivers! On Claymore 9.0, some cards were suddenly hashing at like 14Mh/s, but even worse, fan control was no longer working! I had like 3 GPUs burning up to 90°C with fans at 114rpm, luckily I kept an eye on that rig before going to sleep and got it fixed real quick by juste re-installing the driver.

Just thought you might want to know.

Cheers

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