Topic: Gavin will visit the Council on Foreign Relations - page 5. (Read 55011 times)

Yeah, being sceptical is fine, but it's when that misunderstanding turns into fear and anger based on nothing but ignorance then it becomes a problem.

Now it's a conspiracy fact  .

Most of the CFR members understand thourougly the mechanics of money and power.  They might get someone like Antonopolous in to do tricks for their amusement, but generally the probably have more important things to do.

It is people more like Gavin who pose a genuine threat to the power structures that the CFR folks have cultivated.  Whether Gavin is actually one of these is less clear to me.

I think the term 'conspiracy theory' is used to mock and denigrate now as any legitimate concern is mixed in with all the nonsense claims of aliens and Illuminati crap, but the NSA revelations were just a 'conspiracy theory' up until a short while ago.

Only a$$oles say stupid things like "Only the uneducated believe in conspiracy theories."

Yes, the interviewer admitted to being a skeptic but the conversation was cordial and informative.  And I'm sure they had cocktails or dinner after with additional questions and conversation.  And the skeptics walk away thinking, here is a smart, articulate family man who obviously believes in this.  Maybe I better take a deeper look.  And it is fear and lack of knowledge for the protocol that is what causes most of the FUD.  You can event witness this in the NYS DFS bitlicense hearings.  Lawsky started off all fire and brim stone comparing Charlie Shrem, by association, with Terrorists, financial criminals and other illicit actors, and with a clear indication that he felt bitcoin was bad. He even invoked the memory of 9/11 stating we are only 100 yards from the WTC where 1000's lost their lives because of terrorists ability to move massive amounts of money illegally (no true actually - they moved most of it legally!).  

But by the second day you could see that he and his colleagues were asking really thoughtful and probing question as they began to understand the value and the potential of the technology.

I only mention this to counter the stance of the crypto-anarchist libertarians who like to say "Fuck the Fed" and other inciting opposition stances.  

My argument is that we make much greater progress in advancing our position by thoughtful and reasonable discourse.

 

What are you?  On F*^%$%g glue?

They didn't seem overly sceptical. I thought it would be a drilling/grilling, but it was far more relaxed.

Yes, Gavin handled the tricky questions very well.

I kept trying to picture the scene had Andreas Antonopolous been answering.  He is also an excellent voice for bitcoin but he would have done some serious shredding of some of these agenda-laden questions. 

It is not the content (anyone in bitcoin knows and understand that) as much as the humble diplomacy with which Gavin explains to the establishment how this technology just makes sense.  And it it not fire and brimstone.  His best answers are the entirely truthful:  "I don't know" because as we all know the potential of this technology is limitless.

Worth a watch if only for an example of how to engage skeptics  - not with fierce opposition and argument but with subtle and engaging charm.

i am more interested in CFR member's opinion on bitcoin than to hear gavin's rehashed, monotone story again

also, live viewer in the comment said only 300 ppl were watching. #fail majeure

IMF. He seemed alright, but clearly he is the devil in disguise  .

It wasn't that exciting really. I thought it'd be more in depth, so you're not missing much.

I'll leave this here in the context of helping to understand the problem that fractional reserve banking poses and the necessity for the separation of money and State.
https://www.youtube.com/user/PositiveMoneyUK

http://www.cfr.org/economics/voices-next-generation-gavin-andresen-bitcoin/p32339

Is there a youtube link or something that I have missed?

I was unable to "do it live" in the words of Bill O'Reilly.

Can you ask them to pressure Russia, India, etc to leave BTC users and exchanges alone, please?

Part of me wants to find this humorous, but a bigger part doesn't really think it's funny any longer.

True that.