Topic: Gavin will visit the Council on Foreign Relations - page 10. (Read 54969 times)

There is a very simple way to deal with this: Just use GNU/Linux instead of Microsoft Windows.

he's just anti-bictoin cos Max Keiser calls him a criminal and says he'd like to give him syphilis for christmas.

Oh Jamie, how common of you.  That is the old method.

In response to the government-created problem of too-big-to-fail banks, new regulation was created for all banks.  The new regulation is the same no matter how big the bank so the little ones can barely afford it and have to sell out to the big ones, creating even more too-bigger-to-fail.

Banking regulation is often the use of law/government/force against your competition to ensure your continued capability to charge the highest fee.  It is no surprise that Dimon runs to this for defense.

P2P bitcoin puts this to the lie though.  When we are all our own bank, just how much regulation can be demanded?  It is not as though there is even a way to regulate every individual in this way.  Furthermore we are not asking for "consumer protections" we are asking for the opposite of that:  Protection from your consumer protections through the use of math and code.  Let us then protect ourselves, please.

Jamie Dimon of JP Morgan Chase and the Council on Foreign Relations stated,


http://www.businessinsider.com/jp-morgans-jamie-dimon-on-bitcoin-2014-1

... in case anyone was still wondering why Gavin was summoned.

And yea, Jamie Dimon is a member... scroll down - http://www.cfr.org/about/membership/roster.html?letter=D

Maybe it seems bizarre from our perspective?

Take it from their point of view.  These are the descendants of the folks that have created all the central banks.  It is their divine right to govern all the world and hold it to their standard such that any who seek their own liberty are an aberrant evil needing to be quashed.  The contempt sometimes bleeds through the artful rhetoric.  It is all for our own protection, you know.  Law and government are just tools to keep the wayward in line, fat, dumb and happily chewing cud and milked until slaughter time.

OK, that maybe goes a little far, most of them are not at all like that....but there are some few there for which it does not go far enough.

The paper is bizarre in a number of ways, but what I find particularly odious is the repeated reference to a hypothesized "speculative attack by bitcoin holders". I suppose the author would characterize the 50% (hyper)inflation in Venezuelan bolivars right now as a "speculative attack by dollar holders". What he means by "attack" is voluntarily choosing to hold bitcoins instead of national currency.

To be fair, it *is* possible to short dollars against btc on margin by borrowing them, which of course is easier than it should be due to rigged low interest rates. He worries that raising interest rates would be terrible for national economies (read: terrible for banking cronies printing to QE infinity). That, of course, is us evil bitcoiners' fault.

More remarkable would be a Federal Reserve Board member that was NOT high up at CFR.  CFR members are a very large percentage of appointments.  The same folks started the CFR as the Federal reserve anyhow.
Are there members of the president's cabinet without CFR tenure?

As to the ridicule of "US Agenda" point raised early, some there may see weakening of the USA as a world authority as a necessary element of engendering war, which is the primary means of assuring all nations indebtedness to banking (Rothchild Formula).¹  The theory being that a single "peacekeeper" national authority might presage decreased war.
Further to that, the banks have enough US debt established so to the extent that the US hedgemon can deter aggression from countries that are not currently in debt, US power runs counter to the bankers interests, as they don't need more war from the US.

From a completely cynical banker-power perspective this might make sense?

For purpose of full disclosure, I take CFR's Foreign Affairs subscription, and read much of what they put forward on many topics, but am not a member of anything related.

Also of interest from the CFR here is their paper suggestion that the IMF perform some regulatory activity in regards Bitcoin by referencing:
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2248419
or
http://pastebin.com/xpBHMJMe

Of note, the CFR definitely treat Bitcoin primarily as a currency.

Essentially this shows how they are setting Bitcoin up to take the blame for some future national currency failures.  Section 5 of that paper may be of specific interest:
"V. HOW TO COUNTER THE BITCOIN THREAT VIA THE IMF"
What enforcement mechanism this may take is not determined and the document recognizes it as a problem.  Some of the mechanisms suggested would certainly take the help of someone like Gavin, others such as interfering in FOREX and Exchange markets are things they already do for other currencies.

Thanks! Appreciate it.

Here is the (unformatted) text: http://pastebin.com/6ehbDZiY

Can anyone summarise this for others? I haven't got a PDF viewer seemingly.

Wow thanks for the link - Gavin if you are up to it your public comments on any of the topics under consideration would be appreciated.

hmm..  

"Unremarked in any of the media coverage of the (Fed) appointments is the significant fact that all four of these Obama nominations to one of the most powerful institutions on the planet are not only members, but high-level operatives, of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), the premier U.S. “think tank” promoting world government for the past century."

http://www.thenewamerican.com/economy/item/17381-cfr-sweep-at-fed-obama-names-fischer-brainard-powell-to-join-yellen

Wouldn't it be nice to see that list?  It might be different from what's expected.  With all the fiat that came from the CFR's forebears, they might ask for something interesting and telling, they've been at this a long time.

Unless something changes, the future leaders of the US Government will be in that room.

They can be expected to believe what they have written here:
http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R43339.pdf
Which they reference here:
http://www.cfr.org/economics/crs-bitcoin-questions-answers-analysis-legal-issues/p32148
It cites some of the more wicked expansions of monetary authority and centralization in US caselaw.

That they are coming to you for your help in these early days is surely interesting, you will take on a bit of their taint in this transaction, and they yours.  

Everyone !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fnmhj58o0k

How about visiting a council of foreign relations in china or russia? any invitations yet?

arent you a crappy lil poster

Very interesting that they extended this invitation.  Keep us posted.  Congrats.  

Gavin might enjoy that
He found Satoshi!
Sorry for teasing ^_^

And if you take over the world I want administration of Britannia whistle 

This might be what happened to Satoshi.....please be careful!

First an invite, then the next thing you know you're chained in a dungeon alongside the infamous Bitcoin creator.

Uhem, I think you're missing something.

Foundation is already trying to corrupt core principles (and in secret -> conspiracy):

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/leaked-private-bitcoin-foundation-discussions-on-blacklisting-more-zip-dump-334520


seriously? currently its exactly the other way around. they even created their own board, to operate in secret. then make jokes about it and talk about conspiracy theorists as lunatics. fucking brilliant. for some reason human beings tend to operate the same way. so this behaviour is no different than bank lobbyists meeting with the fed, and thinking its all just normal. no, this stuff is just sick.

the world doesn't just consist of the United States, and members of other countries see people from the US in a different light. Ask a Iranian, Iraqi, Vietnamese, Nicaraguan, ... bitcoin should be country neutral, not part of United States government and corporate structure.