Topic: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) - page 2423. (Read 3377790 times)

Not really, someone brought up to his attention that he was getting bad press for it and he removed the shadow ban to look good.  I have two accounts that same way (gave up on HT), I have no problem posting my 200 posts to Reddit for someone to tell me what I have done wrong.  This is a pattern and Josh isn't fixing anything by removing the ban on a single user. 

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The fact that he's the only one with the ability to remove a shadow ban speaks volume. 

I've seen this argument so many times on HT and I still have no clue what is the correct way to ask a question there. The bans are so random it doesn't make any sense. Shadow bans don't make any sense period. With a regular ban you can at least see the banned user, see his/her post history and perhaps learn something about what could have caused the ban. What possible reason could there be to shadow ban a 1000+ post user?

You're missing the entire point, most people shadow banned didn't break any rule, Josh bans people for asking constructive questions or simply bringing up misguided statements on his part.  Nothing against any of the rules, just an abuse of power.

You don't think addressing your customers concerns by removing their posts is a red flag? 
Does it say in their rules that you must agree 100% with what they are doing and never question anything?

I'm not talking about people who are just blasting GAW or are doing nothing but trying to spread FUD.  Yes those type of posts need to go. 
I am talking about people with legitimate concerns who are voicing them in a constructive manner and their posts are being deleted or their are banned.

First just want to say, thanks for responding to my questions. I would just like you to try to think a little more critically. Let me respond to your answers.


Come on.. admit it. This is very sketchy. Negotiations have been completed, but payouts still haven't been restored? Any normal person would see this is as manipulation tactics (not even getting into conspiracy theories about payout drops since the prime mishap). It seems zenpool had very high payouts to entice early adopters and rewarded them generously. (again this is their main fan base) Bait and switch anyone?



Like you said, there should be an option. You are being forcefed hashpoints if you are desperately trying to hit ROI since your payouts dropped significantly. I suggested using HP to buy more mining power, so that they can be then sold for BTC and thus you actually got some funds from your "mining hashlets".


 Well what I meant was an exact date. Again we are being spoon-fed. Why not open hashbase and let the people decide if they want to hold onto their altcoin at that moment? What i'm getting at here is every announcement made has the inclination to infer "Gaw knows best" "Don't hesistate, just accept it." "People who complain/bring concerns shouldn't invest with us and they're trolls"


 I understand the point you're trying to make. The thing is, what is being asked, isn't trademark secrets. Unfortunately, hashlets are defined in such a way that they aren't defined as securities. This allows the company to not have to release any type of earning reports. The customer receives a "dividend" but is told not to think of it as such, and no one really knows where the money came from or what expenses were made. Right now GAW is taking out a free loan on everyone who is mining hashpoints. Again my point comes around again. The only reason people trust gaw is not FACTS, but faith.

I guess maybe he was successful in creating a cult of personality
 

It's an honest question. It's more than a coincidence  several forums have had long-time GAW supporters just show up outta the blue. It's just another indicator of manipulation and masking tactics.

edit - Also, I don't treat full grown men like children by being "nice" when they have ulterior motives and suspect background. I would expect the same such treatment if I had suspicious motives for anything I post.

Please be respectful as per rootdude's rules he established here

LOL - It's a "mistake" to click on someone's profile that posts a question that may seem critical (if paranoid), and then consequently goes through with the process of banning him? While I'm sure it's a relatively simple thing to do, it's also very intentional. As only admins can shadow ban, very few have the ability - So was Josh himself, or possibly Volder.

Now you turn it around like he did something good.. This is like when they were going to charge for using DD and the community rioted. Then Josh came around and spinned it like not charging something he said he'd never charge in the first place was giving the community something..

edit - Was part of your deal to get that new super rare legendary hashlet to come on here and post propaganda?

I think you're over simplifying the issue... Also - Nothing on the forums states you can't post criticism.

Nope, did it by myself the only thing he told me was this :

"Looks like it was just a mistake. I have fixed it


Josh Garza
CEO- GAW Corp"

In fairness to Josh - He stated long ago his focus was NOT on mining.. He created the cloud business to solidify his customer base. This was a stepping stone to his coin project. This was always his primary focus.

I agree. If Josh had just taken the tough questions head on they would have kept their user base happy. When you start shadow banning people, and refuse to provide evidence of mining (Among other questions). . . well it makes people question what's really going on.

IMO they've given up on BTC / Scrypt mining; just like they gave up on physical hardware sales. They keep changing the game on their customers, and now they have their customers riding everything on PayCoin. It's not going to be pretty when / if PayCoin falls apart.

And a further update...One of the upstream wallet addresses has been receiving some BTC from freebitco.in.
https://blockchain.info/address/1Jxj7VJxVBPZTHJkff6yhGYxTYGvWy3mnH

Well.. I think a lot of it has to do with Paycoin's release... A lot of new attention will be on this and he's trying to control the bad side as much as possible. I peronally think the heavy censorship is counter productive because it brought the complaints to more forums and to a larger audience. It would have been safer to keep them just on HT.

First, thank you for answering the questions I posted in a concise manner.

The biggest problem is that you won't find any answers on HashTalk. There has been a steady stream of people who have been shadow banned on HashTalk for asking questions. Hell, a guy on here got shadow banned for correcting Josh about it being CCN not CNN that they did the interview with. I'd understand if these people were outright trolling on HashTalk, but asking serious questions about PayCoin and their products shouldn't be shadow banned. It didn't use to be that way back when the forum first went up, and its gotten a lot worse since ZenPool went to crap.

LOL - it was a mistake only because they got caught and called out on it. I too was recently shadowed banned for no reason by Josh.

I "think" it was because I made a reference to BCT and some of it being accurate... After someone kool-aid kid said it's all troll speak and random chat.

edit - Just curious.. Did he has you to mention the ban lift in the forums?

Josh just lifted my shadow ban after a mail i sent him, he said that it was a mistake.

Two of my own withdrawals ended up at 18Yrkm5cRqT1MiqwAUBDcN64hWb1pLutsW and 1P62VZZ9kL97dzzcWhG7JZDssaW2MDgn8 too.

The transaction which eventually led to my BTC withdrawal also had a concurrent transaction ending at this address: 3HxJoT5L3aSuKKzNaLWyPiPVyZ6UJRVZGd

I'm hoping that's just poor wording on rootdude's part, because taken at face value it sounds truly messed up, especially the fact that it hasn't been explained that way on HT despite multiple pleas for any updates on this subject. Maybe there are some real constraints preventing them from restoring the payouts and not just the CEO's personal discretion. Yes, I'm grasping at straws here.

First off you need to slow down with demanding rules which we must follow on how we can engage you or anyone on this forum. This is not HT and that is one of the main reasons we deplore HT. If you really can't take being called a shill then you might not be very confident. And your exact words were: "Let's start a topic called "Ask the Shill"..." There's a simple phrase you might like to follow: If it doesn't apply, let it fly. Granted you don't want to be attacked here but have some backbone and don't let what a few miscreants here might say as the general consensus. With that said I have a few questions:

1 - It strikes me rather odd that you would have any information whatsoever that anyone and everyone else invested in GAW wouldn't have. You did say you have a lot of skin in the game. Does that mean you are privy to things that those with far less skin in the game are not?

2 – You said this referring to proof of any actual mining: “What I do know is my payouts are correct for the hashrates I maintain there.” What pools are you mining and how much have you been mining them since the announcement of Hashpool? If you are still mining other pools, by what factor has your overall payouts dropped?

3 – I found this that you stated, referring to the Zenpool negotiations, to be rather disturbing: “The negotiations were said to be completed, and it's my opinion that Josh is waiting for a strategic time to restore the payouts for the ZenPool closer to the ICO.” Why, in the world, would he not restore payouts immediately? Do you mean to tell me that negotiations were made and that Josh is mining Zenpool and profiting more while paying out less until he decides to restore payouts?