Topic: GAW ZenCloud ZenPool Hashlet - does it really exist? ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) - page 110. (Read 262908 times)
October 03, 2014, 08:50:11 PM
I think it is a pretty safe bet that the higher price for prime buybacks will be the $39.96 price or there about. The instant buyback is likely to be more like $25, but hey, it will be instant!
October 03, 2014, 08:18:48 PM
So if I'm reading this right we will have two levels of buy back prices for primes. We are all hoping that the lower price will still be $40 and the higher price will be perhaps $45, right? 
Edit - just to clarify why I have a smiley there. It was claimed by GAW and I believe reiterated during the video-call-thingie that there is enough demand for Primes to absorb all buy-backs. It was also claimed that Primes will be taken out of circulation. All that IMHO doesn't really fit with the dual-level pricing and "faster"/"slower" buy back options.
https://hashtalk.org/topic/9843/mid-sprint-bugs-enhancements
Edit - just to clarify why I have a smiley there. It was claimed by GAW and I believe reiterated during the video-call-thingie that there is enough demand for Primes to absorb all buy-backs. It was also claimed that Primes will be taken out of circulation. All that IMHO doesn't really fit with the dual-level pricing and "faster"/"slower" buy back options.
https://hashtalk.org/topic/9843/mid-sprint-bugs-enhancements
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A user will have the option to have the Prime Hashlet (of their choice) immediately bought back by us for a set price. After confirming, the Prime Hashlet will disappear and the credit will be applied to the user account. We believe this will satisfy the majority of the users that have been wondering about how this feature will work.
A user will have the option to have a Prime Hashlet (of their choice) bought by the community in an Incremental Per MH Program. When a user places a Hashlet Prime up for sale, the total MH of the Prime Hashlet will go in a pool of MH to be purchased by users buying Prime Hashlets in ZenCloud and www.gawminers.com. This option is great for customers who want to sell some or all of their Hashlet Prime in a given time period for a higher price than the Buy Back Program (but all MH may not sell immediately because this scenario uses First-In-First-Out logic to determine who’s MH get’s purchased first in a per/MH instance).
A user will have the option to have a Prime Hashlet (of their choice) bought by the community in an Incremental Per MH Program. When a user places a Hashlet Prime up for sale, the total MH of the Prime Hashlet will go in a pool of MH to be purchased by users buying Prime Hashlets in ZenCloud and www.gawminers.com. This option is great for customers who want to sell some or all of their Hashlet Prime in a given time period for a higher price than the Buy Back Program (but all MH may not sell immediately because this scenario uses First-In-First-Out logic to determine who’s MH get’s purchased first in a per/MH instance).
October 03, 2014, 01:21:38 PM
Logging in once a day to achieve maximum efficency isn't quite farmville. If you have to log in more then once to achieve max return, then you as the user are doing it wrong.
Now if they had a API you could automate it all.
October 03, 2014, 12:57:19 PM
Logging in once a day to achieve maximum efficency isn't quite farmville. If you have to log in more then once to achieve max return, then you as the user are doing it wrong.
October 02, 2014, 11:50:13 PM
If you are interested in my opinion, here it is: I don't agree with you that it's a "game" or a "casino", I see them as any other cloud mining company and hashlets as any other contracts, and personally have nothing against any of them.
OK...it's fine with me...
Let's "agree to disagree" ...which is to have a different opinions...That's ALL...
Thanks for your answer...
ZiG
October 02, 2014, 10:58:45 PM
If you are interested in my opinion, here it is: I don't agree with you that it's a "game" or a "casino", I see them as any other cloud mining company and hashlets as any other contracts, and personally have nothing against any of them.
October 02, 2014, 10:07:14 PM
So why is the LTC Pool payout for 12 hours lower than 50% of the LTC Pool payout rate shown by GAW? It should be close to .003 even accounting for pool fees but instead is almost half that.
I would be interested if you could look at your boosted miner acitivity detail and see if there is a similar shorting of payouts on the dd pools.
I would be interested if you could look at your boosted miner acitivity detail and see if there is a similar shorting of payouts on the dd pools.
Same here, nowhere near 50%. Between 25-30% roughly. Initially I thought it was because I started DD late in the day, so that maybe only half of it was within the day the payout was for. But then the rest of the DD should be in the next day, making it +50% but after a few days it's clear that it isn't.
And it's the same whether I have LTC Pool as primary and ZenPool as secondary or the other way around.
I'm filing a support ticket for every day I'm seeing this but I don't hold much hope. I still have unanswered tickets from two weeks ago
Guys,
Do you understand that you are wasting you time ...and energy + money ... IN SOME VIRTUAL GAME / CASINO type of thing...
Better start playing Poker ...for example...
Good luck,
ZiG
And you are wasting time repeating this "virtual game" mantra. I guess some people just need to do their daily complaining routine to feel better.
@Hazir...: ...nobody is forcing you to read my post(s) ...
If you don't find anything useful in them...click "Ignore" ...and go buy more hashlets, buddy...
EDIT...: ...So, Hazir ...what is your opinion / definition of Hashlet(s) ...could you elaborate, PLEASE...
ZiG
Looks like you haven't been reading people's responses. The hashlet has been already explained in a number of threads, this included, but since you obviously have a lot of time to repeat the same question, you'll find a spare minute to use the search function.
Hazir...again I am calling you by name...like the previous question...which means I am trying to talk to YOU ...ask YOU a question in PERSON ...about YOUR PERSONAL opinion...NOT about other people opinions...
I know exactly what is/are Hashlet(s) ...according to GAW nonsense...have been following them since the beginning ...including here...and have been expressing freely my thoughts in the progress of this BS...
NOW is YOUR turn...let's try again...
"...So, Hazir ...what is YOUR PERSONAL opinion / definition of Hashlet(s) ...thoughts ...could you elaborate, PLEASE..."
Cheers,
ZiG
EDIT...: To make it clear...I have bought many SHIPPED miners from GAW...and think that they have been a excellent RESELLER of real, tangible GOODS ...but Hashlet(s)...NO, thanks...I'll pass on these...
October 02, 2014, 08:53:34 PM
@Hazir...: ...nobody is forcing you to read my post(s) ...
If you don't find anything useful in them...click "Ignore" ...and go buy more hashlets, buddy...
EDIT...: ...So, Hazir ...what is your opinion / definition of Hashlet(s) ...could you elaborate, PLEASE...
ZiG
Looks like you haven't been reading people's responses. The hashlet has been already explained in a number of threads, this included, but since you obviously have a lot of time to repeat the same question, you'll find a spare minute to use the search function.
ZiG knows this, as do i, the point is GAW have broken many promises, and at this point, things are not looking well for many... thankfully, i don't have much skin in that game at all - actually i may achieve roi before the scam falls apart or whatever, i'm just tired of their daily stupid drama bs..
ANyhow.. Some other poor GAW-ster accidently sold 4000 USD worth of hashlets on the market for (yes, i'm not kidding) 21.00 USD.. and get this, gaw apparently told him, sorry, all sales final, your out of luck... So, the guy is praying that the loser who bought 4k worth of Mh for 20 USD has a soul and posts to his thread. (WTF kind of company is that)... anyhow, I give up, i'm done logging in, just keep sending me btc daily thanks... :\
Edit - i've not checked out the guys latest update, i'll have to go check it out now.. imagine losing 4k because of some shitty website code, and being slightly careless & tired? sure, it's absolutely his fault, but it's also GAW's for having crappy web interface shit code my 5 year old could have written better with more prompts and clear "Hey, are you sure?" kind of basic bs. :S
To be fair to GAW it is seller's fault for not paying attention and I can't imagine e.g. Cryptsy refunding you if you sold something at below "market" price. However if GAW had a proper exchange interface with bid/ask this wouldn't happen, worst case it could have eaten through some low bids depending on market depth, but not at 1/200 of the price. And all pricing should be based on 1 MH/s, that's what everybody understands and looks for.
October 02, 2014, 08:42:48 PM
Anyone find it weird that hashlets are turning into farmville? You have to log in multiple times per day to get max efficiency. Why not have all that stuff auto-enable by default?
It's like mail-in rebates and similar promotional garbage. The expectation is that some users won't bother or won't be able to use it, as opposed to automated discount/boost/whatever.
With the double-dip its even worse because you can't really take full advantage even if you try - it won't allow you to set the second pool until full 24 hours have elapsed after the previous DD start, so the interval will creep at least a few seconds and possibly more every day, depending on how much babysitting you can afford. To make it as advertised ("you can use this amp every single day") the rule should be "no more than once in any calendar day", giving a ~12 hour window every day to do this.
October 02, 2014, 08:31:25 PM
@Hazir...: ...nobody is forcing you to read my post(s) ...
If you don't find anything useful in them...click "Ignore" ...and go buy more hashlets, buddy...
EDIT...: ...So, Hazir ...what is your opinion / definition of Hashlet(s) ...could you elaborate, PLEASE...
ZiG
Looks like you haven't been reading people's responses. The hashlet has been already explained in a number of threads, this included, but since you obviously have a lot of time to repeat the same question, you'll find a spare minute to use the search function.
ZiG knows this, as do i, the point is GAW have broken many promises, and at this point, things are not looking well for many... thankfully, i don't have much skin in that game at all - actually i may achieve roi before the scam falls apart or whatever, i'm just tired of their daily stupid drama bs..
ANyhow.. Some other poor GAW-ster accidently sold 4000 USD worth of hashlets on the market for (yes, i'm not kidding) 21.00 USD.. and get this, gaw apparently told him, sorry, all sales final, your out of luck... So, the guy is praying that the loser who bought 4k worth of Mh for 20 USD has a soul and posts to his thread. (WTF kind of company is that)... anyhow, I give up, i'm done logging in, just keep sending me btc daily thanks... :\
Edit - i've not checked out the guys latest update, i'll have to go check it out now.. imagine losing 4k because of some shitty website code, and being slightly careless & tired? sure, it's absolutely his fault, but it's also GAW's for having crappy web interface shit code my 5 year old could have written better with more prompts and clear "Hey, are you sure?" kind of basic bs. :S
October 02, 2014, 07:55:51 PM
So why is the LTC Pool payout for 12 hours lower than 50% of the LTC Pool payout rate shown by GAW? It should be close to .003 even accounting for pool fees but instead is almost half that.
I would be interested if you could look at your boosted miner acitivity detail and see if there is a similar shorting of payouts on the dd pools.
I would be interested if you could look at your boosted miner acitivity detail and see if there is a similar shorting of payouts on the dd pools.
Same here, nowhere near 50%. Between 25-30% roughly. Initially I thought it was because I started DD late in the day, so that maybe only half of it was within the day the payout was for. But then the rest of the DD should be in the next day, making it +50% but after a few days it's clear that it isn't.
And it's the same whether I have LTC Pool as primary and ZenPool as secondary or the other way around.
I'm filing a support ticket for every day I'm seeing this but I don't hold much hope. I still have unanswered tickets from two weeks ago
Guys,
Do you understand that you are wasting you time ...and energy + money ... IN SOME VIRTUAL GAME / CASINO type of thing...
Better start playing Poker ...for example...
Good luck,
ZiG
And you are wasting time repeating this "virtual game" mantra. I guess some people just need to do their daily complaining routine to feel better.
@Hazir...: ...nobody is forcing you to read my post(s) ...
If you don't find anything useful in them...click "Ignore" ...and go buy more hashlets, buddy...
EDIT...: ...So, Hazir ...what is your opinion / definition of Hashlet(s) ...could you elaborate, PLEASE...
ZiG
Looks like you haven't been reading people's responses. The hashlet has been already explained in a number of threads, this included, but since you obviously have a lot of time to repeat the same question, you'll find a spare minute to use the search function.
October 02, 2014, 07:10:46 PM
So why is the LTC Pool payout for 12 hours lower than 50% of the LTC Pool payout rate shown by GAW? It should be close to .003 even accounting for pool fees but instead is almost half that.
I would be interested if you could look at your boosted miner acitivity detail and see if there is a similar shorting of payouts on the dd pools.
I would be interested if you could look at your boosted miner acitivity detail and see if there is a similar shorting of payouts on the dd pools.
Same here, nowhere near 50%. Between 25-30% roughly. Initially I thought it was because I started DD late in the day, so that maybe only half of it was within the day the payout was for. But then the rest of the DD should be in the next day, making it +50% but after a few days it's clear that it isn't.
And it's the same whether I have LTC Pool as primary and ZenPool as secondary or the other way around.
I'm filing a support ticket for every day I'm seeing this but I don't hold much hope. I still have unanswered tickets from two weeks ago
Guys,
Do you understand that you are wasting you time ...and energy + money ... IN SOME VIRTUAL GAME / CASINO type of thing...
Better start playing Poker ...for example...
Good luck,
ZiG
And you are wasting time repeating this "virtual game" mantra. I guess some people just need to do their daily complaining routine to feel better.
@Hazir...: ...nobody is forcing you to read my post(s) ...
If you don't find anything useful in them...click "Ignore" ...and go buy more hashlets, buddy...
EDIT...: ...So, Hazir ...what is your opinion / definition of Hashlet(s) ...could you elaborate, PLEASE...
ZiG
October 02, 2014, 06:19:30 PM
Anyone find it weird that hashlets are turning into farmville? You have to log in multiple times per day to get max efficiency. Why not have all that stuff auto-enable by default?
October 02, 2014, 05:45:48 PM
So why is the LTC Pool payout for 12 hours lower than 50% of the LTC Pool payout rate shown by GAW? It should be close to .003 even accounting for pool fees but instead is almost half that.
I would be interested if you could look at your boosted miner acitivity detail and see if there is a similar shorting of payouts on the dd pools.
I would be interested if you could look at your boosted miner acitivity detail and see if there is a similar shorting of payouts on the dd pools.
Same here, nowhere near 50%. Between 25-30% roughly. Initially I thought it was because I started DD late in the day, so that maybe only half of it was within the day the payout was for. But then the rest of the DD should be in the next day, making it +50% but after a few days it's clear that it isn't.
And it's the same whether I have LTC Pool as primary and ZenPool as secondary or the other way around.
I'm filing a support ticket for every day I'm seeing this but I don't hold much hope. I still have unanswered tickets from two weeks ago
Guys,
Do you understand that you are wasting you time ...and energy + money ... IN SOME VIRTUAL GAME / CASINO type of thing...
Better start playing Poker ...for example...
Good luck,
ZiG
And you are wasting time repeating this "virtual game" mantra. I guess some people just need to do their daily complaining routine to feel better.
October 02, 2014, 05:42:04 PM
Seems like even a "old timers' have been caught in a new GAW "Virtual Casino" game of "...Upgrades...sales...boosts...hashlet this...or hashlets that..." ...
I am keeping my REAL mining gear ...happily hashing on WeMineLTC ...no gimmicks ...no "new" tricks... ~same payout everyday.. + full CONTROL over my mining ...NOT their "mining" ..if it is "mining" at all ...
Happy
ZiG
EDIT: ...in the world of financial markets...it is called "DERIVATIVES" ...Capisco...
Totally agree with you Zig in light of information I have now. However, when I bought from "GAWesome" (sarcasm intended) they had a legitimate miner hardware business, a legitimate (if buggy) hosting business and had treated me extremely fairly on every purchase. Maybe that was all part of the long con, but I truly believe that Josh will someday (maybe from jail) justify his ponzi scheme (e.g., "virtual poker") by saying and probably believing that he did it all for the good of the bitcoin community. I think he truly believes he is going gods work. Problem is, it will all fall apart as soon as his inputs (new purchases) are less than outputs (payouts + cash out/sales). Obviously this is why he cannot allow Prime sales.
October 02, 2014, 05:07:04 PM
So why is the LTC Pool payout for 12 hours lower than 50% of the LTC Pool payout rate shown by GAW? It should be close to .003 even accounting for pool fees but instead is almost half that.
I would be interested if you could look at your boosted miner acitivity detail and see if there is a similar shorting of payouts on the dd pools.
I would be interested if you could look at your boosted miner acitivity detail and see if there is a similar shorting of payouts on the dd pools.
Same here, nowhere near 50%. Between 25-30% roughly. Initially I thought it was because I started DD late in the day, so that maybe only half of it was within the day the payout was for. But then the rest of the DD should be in the next day, making it +50% but after a few days it's clear that it isn't.
And it's the same whether I have LTC Pool as primary and ZenPool as secondary or the other way around.
I'm filing a support ticket for every day I'm seeing this but I don't hold much hope. I still have unanswered tickets from two weeks ago
Guys,
Do you understand that you are wasting you time ...and energy + money ... IN SOME VIRTUAL GAME / CASINO type of thing...
Better start playing Poker ...for example...
Good luck,
ZiG
October 02, 2014, 05:03:49 PM
So why is the LTC Pool payout for 12 hours lower than 50% of the LTC Pool payout rate shown by GAW? It should be close to .003 even accounting for pool fees but instead is almost half that.
I would be interested if you could look at your boosted miner acitivity detail and see if there is a similar shorting of payouts on the dd pools.
I would be interested if you could look at your boosted miner acitivity detail and see if there is a similar shorting of payouts on the dd pools.
Same here, nowhere near 50%. Between 25-30% roughly. Initially I thought it was because I started DD late in the day, so that maybe only half of it was within the day the payout was for. But then the rest of the DD should be in the next day, making it +50% but after a few days it's clear that it isn't.
And it's the same whether I have LTC Pool as primary and ZenPool as secondary or the other way around.
I'm filing a support ticket for every day I'm seeing this but I don't hold much hope. I still have unanswered tickets from two weeks ago
October 02, 2014, 05:00:50 PM
So I spoke with them today and they are sending me a free war machine to make up for sending me 4 of the wrong ones. I will let you guys know if they ship it out or not. I am happy with that deal, since the units they did send only use 900 watts of power compaired to the 1800watts the war machine uses. They where very nice to talk to on the phone and answerd every time I called too.
I am so happy to hear they have taken care of you! Please let me know if you need further assistance!
Sincerely,
Amber
[email protected]
Amber, to be clear - can you help with ticket #33302?
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Being Processed since last 2 days 2 hrs
Hi! I apologize, I am having your ticket reviewed right now. Thank you for your time!
Thanks, Amber.
Still nothing, Amber.
Some broken promises and losses for me, nothing more...
Seems like even a "old timers' have been caught in a new GAW "Virtual Casino" game of "...Upgrades...sales...boosts...hashlet this...or hashlets that..." ...
I am keeping my REAL mining gear ...happily hashing on WeMineLTC ...no gimmicks ...no "new" tricks... ~same payout everyday.. + full CONTROL over my mining ...NOT their "mining" ..if it is "mining" at all ...
Happy
ZiG
EDIT: ...in the world of financial markets...it is called "DERIVATIVES" ...Capisco...
October 02, 2014, 04:35:06 PM
So I spoke with them today and they are sending me a free war machine to make up for sending me 4 of the wrong ones. I will let you guys know if they ship it out or not. I am happy with that deal, since the units they did send only use 900 watts of power compaired to the 1800watts the war machine uses. They where very nice to talk to on the phone and answerd every time I called too.
I am so happy to hear they have taken care of you! Please let me know if you need further assistance!
Sincerely,
Amber
[email protected]
Amber, to be clear - can you help with ticket #33302?
Quote
Being Processed since last 2 days 2 hrs
Hi! I apologize, I am having your ticket reviewed right now. Thank you for your time!
Thanks, Amber.
Still nothing, Amber.
Some broken promises and losses for me, nothing more...
October 02, 2014, 04:33:37 PM
Love your posts...But I've been getting my dd payout every day and it is the right amount...they even sent me 2dd payouts I didn't the first couple days it went live...8 more days and I'm fully roi'd
good luck to youTip though...just iggy bitgeek it's easy that way...he listens to no one if they bad talk gaw
How many mhs do you have? Are they purchased direct from GAW or were they converted from zencloud hosted machines?
EDIT:
Based on crashoveride5492's post, I went back to examine my history. Here is the activity record for one of my converted miners (now a prime hashlet) with 2 pools from yesterday to this morning:
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October 1, 2014
Zeus Hurricane X6
ZenPool: 0.00665327 BTC after pool fees (if applicable)
LTC Pool: 0.00169153 BTC after pool fees (if applicable)
Zeus Hurricane X6
ZenPool: 0.00665327 BTC after pool fees (if applicable)
LTC Pool: 0.00169153 BTC after pool fees (if applicable)
Interestingly, LTC Pool and ZenPool have about equal performance yesterday according to the Rates table that GAW publishes:
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LTC Pool 0.00060319 BTC
ZenPool 0.00060319 BTC
ZenPool 0.00060319 BTC
So why is the LTC Pool payout for 12 hours lower than 50% of the LTC Pool payout rate shown by GAW? It should be close to .003 even accounting for pool fees but instead is almost half that.
I would be interested if you could look at your boosted miner acitivity detail and see if there is a similar shorting of payouts on the dd pools.
54mh/s WM converted to prime and bought 3mh/s prime and the free 1.3mh/s prime gift they gave us all rolled into 1 prime @ 59mh/s think they upped the fury ta 2mh/s
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